NBA Draft
by Adam T on Jun 25, 2009 9:56 AM CDT
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PrintFrom time to time, if there is an event happening I like to talk about another sport. With the NBA Draft happening tonight I was curious what your thoughts were on who the Bulls should take and further what you think they should do with the parts they have.
It seems they are resigned to letting Gordon go and it looks like Hinrich is turning out to be a sought after trade item.
What do you think they should do in the draft and rest of the off season?
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Resign Gordon
Trade Hinrich to portland
Use their picks and players (deng, tyrus,) for amare or bosh simple
rose
gordon
salmons (also sign anthony parker as a bacup SF)
bosh/amare
noah
Portland turned down a really sweet deal
when Heinrich was offered to them. I just don’t think they are interested.
LSU Tigers Baseball... NCAA National Champions- 2009.
don't trade for bosh. he's a free agent at the end of the next year
the assumption is that the bulls are just trying to free up cap room to make a run at him.
i think they should make a play for lebron.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
Rose Gordon (I made a funny and didn't even realize it)
The Bulls won’t go anywhere with an undersized, underachieving defensive players. Hinrich stays, and let Gordon go elsewhere. Like Temp said, make a run at Bosh or Bron after this season. Draft Blair or Hansborough.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
dejuan blair seems to be the "favorite" pick...
i got to see him beat up on UCONN like it was his religion!!! thabeet ain’t s#!t…and i highly doubt that bron bron is going anywhere… with shaq coming over this year, they’ll be thinking the same thing about bosh/stoudemire next year. even though blair is a low post threat, i’d like to see us pick up a “BIG MAN”!!! noah just doesn’t have the meat on his bones… and is it me, or everytime he runs up and down the court, it looks like he’s gonna’ trip on his shoelaces???
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 25, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Options
Trade our 2 1st round picks and Deng to Houston for Tracy McGrady
Trade our 2 1st round picks and Deng to Phoenix for Amare
Or, draft DeJuan Blair and have him be a two sport athlete playing FB for Da Bears and PF for Da Bulls. Thats a big boy.
Tracy is a bum
He’s constantly hurt, and showed nothing but being a selfish player since his arrival in the league.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
earth to meekus, everyone in the NBA is a selfish player. He has shown leadership on Houston and if we resign Gordon, could be a great mentor for a future backcourt of Rose and AirGordon
EASY ON THE "AIR" REFERENCE!!!
plus, i think heinrich is a better overall player than gordon… i don’t think his offense is worth $11M/YR…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 25, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
there can be only one...
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 25, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
EXCEPT HIS HANG-TIME...
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 25, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
my two cents...
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
Man could he jump out of the building!
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
from the parking lot...off the window...through the hallways...
passed the cheap seats… hittin’ the peanut vendor… of the time clock… nothing but NET!!!!!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
i'll take any of those 3!!!
but i think t-mac would come with a lot lower price tag…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 25, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
You are right
Deng is staying put. Bad, bad contract.
I am not impressed
I don’t think its that big of a move. He had a great FG% last year because all his shots are from right underneath the basket. The PHX games I watched did not include much of him. He is too old to run the court and his minutes are limited because of the risk of injury. Plus Detroit learned how to beat one of Shaq’s teams a few years ago, foul him. In the 4th quarter of a close game, always resort to the hack-a-shack.
To compete with CLE, the Bulls need a lockdown defender on LeBron. I don’t know if we have someone yet that can slow him down like Pietrus did in the Conference Finals.
The Bulls don't have a dominant center
This move was looking right at Dwight Howard.
I think with the athleticism of Tyrus or the hustle of Noah would make both of them hard to cover for Shaq.
I Tyrus continues to improve that jumper of his, Shaq cannot guard him out there. Shaq is just too old and too not interested in trying to follow around Noah.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
Yahoo sports reports that Hinrich thinks he’s going to Portland…
I’d like the Bulls to trade up in the draft if they can get Henderson
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 25, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions
Agree with trading up
I agree with trading up, but I’d prefer Terrence Williams or Earl Clark over Henderson.
those 2 would be nice… Clark seems raw to me, but he’s an athlete!
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 25, 2009 1:33 PM CDT reply actions
Since we are talking basketball,
Found a pic from Rondo back in the day
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jun 25, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Bulls Draft.
Whatever the Bulls do tonight, PLEASE! PLEASE! get rid of Kirk Hindrich. He is the most overpaid player in the league and he sucks! Also, you heard it here first. Watch and see the Bulls get Lamarcus Aldridge tonight after they missed on him when they drafted Tyrus Thomas instead. Very stupid trade John.
Actually, they didn't miss, they drafted Aldridge, but traded him for Thomas...
And why would the 76’s get rid of their best player??
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
can't believe thabeet went second!!!!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
Cause he has zero offense
He has a very high bust boom factor for the second overall pick.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
i live in CT!!! i've seen him "PLAY"!!!
HE’S GARBAGE!!!!
A) like propheteer said, he has no offense… and,
b) at 7"3"… he better be blockin’ all kind of sh it’s called “WING SPAN”!!!
C) HE’S 22, and he’s only been playing basketball for 7 years=far from polished!
d) he gets punished in the paint!
E) he has no shot beyond 7FT!!!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
YES!!! THE ENTIRE THING, YES!!!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
i like the 1st pick the bulls had
This Johnson kid looks like a good piece of the puzzle. Finally a power forward who should be able to put a body on people, back people down in the paint w/the ball, and overall just be a physical force the Bulls could very much use. Gibson could stick on the roster too, I am glad we are getting a couple of bigger guys who can help the Bulls not get their ass kicked in the paint by bigger teams. My pipe dream here is Johnson will be everything Deng was supposed to be (and isn’t because luuuuol sucks) plus a force in the paint.
ps: Rondo is a pillowbiting fake-ass ET. I wish someone tougher than Hinrich threw punches at him; knock some of the god-awful ugly out of that tool’s face. f rondo.
by reefermadness3 on Jun 25, 2009 10:47 PM CDT reply actions
great. an undersized power forward on an undersized team
that oughta work
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
Blair would have been my choice
First, Luol doesn’t suck. Remember how good he was before he got injured? If he can get back to healthy I think he would be a big contributer to the team. “If” he can get back to healthy.
I like Johnson but I don’t think he can come in and help right away like we need. I was hoping for Blair because talk about a big body. He can rebound and has a good offensive game. He has personality and charisma that I think would flow really well the our front court. Plus, Blair could come in and contribute right away.
blair was everybody's choice for the bulls...
except for the bulls… that one is gonna’ mess with me for a long time… maybe they know something we don’t, but i strongly consider it to be the other way around! i think he would’ve been a nice fit, as he represented everything we needed in a player that could make the team instantly stronger.
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
Blair's only claim to fame was shutting down Thabeet, who's another spaz.
Don’t care how talented he was, what the hell are you gonna do with a power forward who’s the size of a point guard? it was a weak Guard filled draft. I’m more concerned what we do in free agency.
Oh yeah. and you mean to tell me Orlando pulled Vince carter in with Raifer Alston? WTF!!! we could have got him with Captain Kirk, who’s way better.
Shit. I hate this Gar Foreman prick already.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jun 26, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Why do you hate Gar?
You do realize that he’s GM in title only, right? All decisions still have to be OK’ed by Pax.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
yeah, I know.
I just hate looking at his friggin mug.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jun 26, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
just his first name alone makes my skin crawl!!!
his parents must not have liked him too much… not “thrilled” with our picks AT ALL… and i also think detroit’s gonna’ be a problem this up-coming year(basketball team, of course… i’d kick myself off of this site if i ever was to say that about their football team)
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 27, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
The hell with detroit
I think Cleveland still owns the division, with the bulls right behind. But Orlando is the team to beat in the east right now. Not only the east, I’m gonna say with the addition of Vince Carter, Orlando might be the Best team in the NBA.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Jun 27, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
that was about the most solid moves i've seen so far this offseason...
draft included. although, not a good look for turkoglu… wonder what team he’ll be playin’ for next season…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 27, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe
I think Turkoglu leaving kind of evens out getting Carter.Turkoglu did a lot for them, he can shoot the lights out, get to the basket, and he brought the ball up a lot. I think it will depend on how well Nelson plays for them next year. The departure of Lee might hurt too. I think he is really going to turn into a nice player.
by packallday555 on Jun 27, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Turk was Good, no doubt
but when Your team’s gameplan revolves around a big man, then you need outstanding Play from the Guards.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Jun 27, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Also vice-versa. Allow me to expound on that statement
Shaq/Gasol/Kobe/Fisher
Garnett/Rondo/Ray Allen
Duncan/Parker/Ginobolli/Kerr
Shaq/Wade/Jason Williams
Of course Pippen/Grant/Jordan/Kerr
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by ifuwannacrownem on Jun 27, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Shaq?
when were him and gasol on the lakers?
by DaNate23 on Jun 28, 2009 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions
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by ifuwannacrownem on Jun 28, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
you gotta' warn me when you do s#!t like this!!!
granted, i broke my own rule, although, water doesn’t hurt as much coming up as say… hot coffee!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
I agree
But I don’t think…Howard/Carter/Lewis/Nelson are as good as..
Garnett/Pierce/Allen/Rondo
Shaq/Lebron/Williams
Gasol/Bynum/Odom/Bryant
Duncan/Jefferson/Ginobili/Parker
It pains to me to say this but I think the Spurs might now be the team to beat. I don’t think there is a team I hate more but the addition of Jefferson will help them so much. Especially with a healthy Ginobili, on any given night any of those 4 could put up 30 points. Plus, Gooden, Udoka, Bonner, Finely, and Blair of the bench they could be very dangerous.
This is off subject and kind of random but the Celtics vs Bulls series was such a good one haha!
by packallday555 on Jun 29, 2009 3:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Gotta disagree
A healthy Jameer Nelson made Orlando better than they were in the playoffs. Carter is one of the best in the game.
They are better than Boston and san antonio because of age.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Jun 29, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Spurs vs Magic
Carter vs Jefferson- Both are similar players and I don’t think there is a great difference in skill between them. Edge: Carter
Duncan vs Howard- Howard long term will be better, but right now he is so raw. It pains me to watch him, because I think about how good he could be, but he is no where near that. Edge: Duncan
Lewis vs Ginoboli- Lewis is a good player. He is primarily a spot up guy though. Ginoboli can hit the 3 with consistency but he can get to the cup as well. He also is very clutch. Edge: Ginoboli
Nelson vs Parker- I don’t think there is really much doubt here. Edge: Parker
by packallday555 on Jun 29, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Howard beasts Duncan currently. I wouldn’t consider Howard “too raw”. I would consider Duncan past his prime though, he is by no means old, but Howard has beasted him for a few seasons now
Howard
Does not “beast” anybody. He gets rebounds and dunks. That’s it. He has NO post moves, besides that run left hook which he makes 1 time out of 10. He is stil very raw.
by packallday555 on Jun 30, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Magic vs Boston
Howard vs Garnett- I think KG is more skilled but it will remain to see how he comes back from that knee injury. For that reason. Edge: Howard
Carter vs Pierce- Again both are similar, but Pierce has been there (championship) and proved himself. Edge: Pierce
Allen vs Lewis- They both are kind of the same player. Just spot up 3 guys. Again, because of experience I gotta go. Edge: Allen
Nelson vs Rondo- Both are young and very good. They both manage their teams great. I think all-around though Rondo does a lot more then Nelson. Edge: Rondo
by packallday555 on Jun 29, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Don’t mean to break you down, but Rashard Lewis has so much size on Allen. Lewis is 6’10" and Allen is 6’5", Lewis averages 3 more rebounds a game and they score within the same range. Lewis plays the 4 and the 3. Allen plays the 2 and the 1.
I also do not see how you can pick Howard over Garnett, but Duncan over Howard. Would you pick Duncan over Garnett? Duncan has more rings because of his supporting cast, Garnett alone got the T’wolves to be contenders many years and was the final piece in Boston. I would take Garnett over Duncan anyday.
Howard over Garnett
Simply because it remains to be seen how he will come back from his injury. They never really said what his injury was, but I get the feeling it had to of be pretty serious because he didn’t play at all after it happened. I disagree. There isn’t a player in the NBA I hate more then Duncan, but you have to admit he is damn good. Plus, he gets all the calls from the refs.
by packallday555 on Jun 30, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I could
agree with you on Lewis. I think there about even. I gave Allen the edge because he has the experience. Keep in mind Allen is a very solid defender. He guarded Kobe in the 07’ finals and did a pretty good job. (or at least as good a job you can against Kobe haha).
by packallday555 on Jun 30, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Still doesn’t make sense, Lewis and Allen don’t play the same position. You are comparing apples to oranges.
Ha, I’d like to see you tell Howard he doesn’t beast people to his face. His physical presence on the court is what allows the Magic to shoot from outside. All season they thrived from the 3pt range. Not to mention his effectiveness in the pick and roll, big men just aren’t as athletic as him. Right now he is more effective than Duncan and Garnett. In their prime, Duncan and Garnett were head and feet better than Howard but they aren’t in their prime anymore.
I didn't
Say he wasn’t effective because I think he is. I said he is raw. If Howards run into someone who is strong enough to keep him away from the basket (which Duncan is) or a good defender who is long enough to contest his shots (which KG is) he struggles. I agree there really no big men as athletic as him, but that can only get you so far.
Players don’t have a set position they have to play. Lewis is 6’ 10" and spends almost all his time on the wing. I would say he is a true 3. I would say Allen is a true 2. But really there isn’t much difference. They both spend most of there time out on the arc, and like you said earlier their games are similar. For that reason I feel they are comparable.
by packallday555 on Jul 1, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Age
I think the only way it can be negative is if it’s causing players play to decline. I don’t feel like in the Spurs or Celtics case that is what’s happening. I think age actually is a positive and I think it gives them an advantage over a young team like Orlando. Both the Spurs and Celtics have got it done before, and that experience can be crucial in the playoffs.
by packallday555 on Jun 29, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
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