Bears Receivers Off To Good Start
by Adam T on Jun 4, 2009 10:34 AM CDT
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Now that the Bears have addressed just about every off season concern they had, most people are looking at the one spot that is left as the reason they are going to fail, wide receiver. Yesterday, Peter King was on the radio with Randy Cross and he had the Bears at 3 in the NFC North, his reasoning was the recievers. He had the Bears at 9-7. Far be it for me to remind him that Kyle Orton and the raggedy line we had last year achieved that mark. Now a franchise Pro Bowl QB and a rebuilt line will be under that mark?
Of all people, Chris Mortenson is here to shine a little sunlight on our receivers. Yes, it is just OTA, so no need to leave 1,000 comments about it, I get that. But the Bears receivers have looked very good and with Cutler getting them the ball quickly and accurately the defense has been left playing catch up.
Rotoworld cited Mort's Twitter account and added some of their own that is interesting to read.
Citing a trusted source, ESPN's Chris Mortensen says it's "amazing" how much better the Bears' receivers have looked with Jay Cutler at QB so far.
It's only spring and Devin Hester, Greg Olsen, and Earl Bennett haven't taken a single hit, but the news is encouraging. Chicago's receiver corps will have a far easier time getting the ball from Cutler and his career 62.5% completion rate than they did from Kyle Orton (55.3%) or Rex Grossman (54.2%).
The QB and receivers go hand in hand, improve one and the others will improve to some extent. Again, nobody is looking to take the receivers heads off, but the defense has pride and isn't giving it to them.
It will be interesting to see what the word is come training camp and pre season.
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We were 9-7 last year
Not 8-8 and the receivers are not going to drop us (pun intended) to 8-8. I think at this point, we are ine going forward with who we have. Let Boldin go, I don’t want Plax and his issues. Just stick with what we got and next year go after someone if these guys still suck.
by GallopingGhost on Jun 4, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll take Plax
on a one-year deal, prove it or lose it contract. That’s all predicated on whether he gets jail time and/or a suspension.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack." - Sun Tzu
by propheteer on Jun 4, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take him too. Nice to not be the only one.
I’m all for character guys, and I know this guy is borderline. But really he isn’t the worse guy in the world. He’s not beating up girlfriends, selling drugs, robbing people, etc. He had a problem with one of the most infamous coaches for being hard on players and he carried a gun that wasn’t licensed. That is not the end of the world or horrible. Granted he was an idiot for shooting himself, but that isn’t bad character.
On the positive, he plays as hard as anyone, is a super tough player who has played through injuries, and he is very talented. Why wouldn’t we be interested. He made a mistake and it wasn’t even a horrible one, imo. Bad judgement, but he’s not an assassin.
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by #23 on Jun 4, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
It’s not like he accidently shot someone else in the process.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack." - Sun Tzu
by propheteer on Jun 4, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From yesterday's OC article...
An old-school, run-first guy, Turner will look to get more balance into the offense with the arrival of QB Jay Cutler and the emergence of WRs Devin Hester, Earl Bennett and Rashied Davis.
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by Dane Noble on Jun 4, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Turner a ...
run-first guy? Then why am I continually exasperated by what appears to be his lack of sticking to the run game? The balance should be in improving the the QUALITY of the passing game, not the the quantity.
by BatCubFan on Jun 4, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
???
Yesterday, Peter King was on the radio with Randy Cross and he had the Bears at 3 in the NFC North
So, uhh, why’d he rank em 4th?
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Jun 4, 2009 10:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly what I was thinking.
I guess you get the NFL expert status by making enough predictions to cover all your bases? I don’t know. This is a little wishy washy. No. It’s schizophrenic.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/05/10/may11/index.html
He’s got Chicago at 4, and Green Bay at 14. Then says we’ll finish 3rd in the division. Next up: the Lions in the NFC Championship game.
by Skags on Jun 4, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably because
peter king is an idiot. i’m not sure why i continue to read the trainwreck that is mmqb from him, i guess i’m just sadistic. no one cares about your little travel inconveniences and what kind of coffee you drink, d-bag. and i sure as hell don’t need to hear your politcal views in your football column.
did anyone see how horrible he was picking games in his contest last year? i guess he’s better than dr z, but that’s not too hard to do at this point.
sorry, i’m feeling insensitive today.
by genetic on Jun 4, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's called covering all the bases, so you can claim you predicted it no mater the outcome.
by BigGeorgeTX on Jun 4, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Exactly. I used to respect King but it just seems like he writes and says enough that he is bound to be right about something and then points back like he knew it all along. His articles on SI.com are 5 pages long, and 3 of them are dedicated to things he thinks he thinks he knows or whatever. If I randomly made 20 presumptions a month, I’d get a few right too. The power ranking of 4 combined with the prediction of 3rd in the north just proves it. He gets the best interviews because SI sets them up for him, but he is a journalist with minimal NFL knowledge… The sad part is I’m still gonna read his articles because of the access he is given.
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by Hurricanes becoming Bears on Jun 4, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe... just maybe...
I’m gonna throw this out there, so be ready for it:
Bears WRs will “actually look like they’re getting separation” this year, because the ball will be thrown like a laser.
Perhaps, that’s why they never looked like they were open in year’s past? Defenders had plenty of time to read and close in on the ball.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2009 10:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Correct Terminology Please...
Didn’t we establish that it is actually a “rocket laser?” What’s all this reference to a regular old laser..Get with the program!
by The Kaiser on Jun 4, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was "laser-guided rocket"
by MuleTrain on Jun 4, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly!!!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 4, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laser guided rocket with a canon of an arm....
"Like a young contortionist, for the first time coming into his own...." -Bert Sugar
by Just Dave on Jun 4, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heat seeking laser-guided jet-propelled rocket with a rapid-fire cannon of an arm...
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 4, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes!!!!
I love superlatives.
"Like a young contortionist, for the first time coming into his own...." -Bert Sugar
by Just Dave on Jun 4, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he doesn't throw dead ducks
he throws sharks with frickin’ laser beams attached to their heads
by genetic on Jun 4, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hypervelocity electromagnetic railgun arm??
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
by juperee on Jun 4, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just call it the gravity gun :)
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Jun 4, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mean... anti-gravity, don't you???
or gravity defiant???
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 5, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless you've played half-life 2
You wouldn’t understand.
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Jun 5, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm an xbox type of guy...
but i’ll look it up… after all, can’t consider myself a “gamer” if i’m not on top of my game…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 5, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you!
The Bears could use a reciever I know. But the more thought I have, the more I think that they may actually be ok. I know Forte isn’t Tomlinson but he is an Ultra back meaning he can run and catch well. Is it at all impossible to look at this offense the same way as The Chargers from a few years back? A good QB, a good RB, and a better than average TE? In our case two better than average tight ends. Then throw in Hester, is it that impossible to imagine?
by Dils on Jun 4, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep on doubting
I love seeing national outlets underestimating the Bears; this can only motivate Sizzle and company to prove them wrong.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack." - Sun Tzu
by propheteer on Jun 4, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you guys for taking Cutler out of our division.
that was great I don’t know exaclty how he will do with you but, hopefully he can be good. About the wide reciver thing are you keeping hester at WR and PR or only PR cuz hester is a threst to catch the ball like our JLH.
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by nishal26 on Jun 4, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's our "#1" receiver and PR
manning is taking over at KR
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 4, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Bush....
er… Michael Bush.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who didn't see this coming?
Of COURSE he’ll make the receivers look better. Receivers, all receivers good and bad, HAVE to rely on the QB to get them the ball. Cutler has proven that he is exceptional in doing this. And transversely, expect Denver’s passing output to drop severely.
Nothing against Orton, he won a lot of games, but he’s just not that good- as he’s shown. New system, new coach.. anythings possible.
My advice would be to replace Marshall with Hester on your fantasy team. OK maybe not Hester, but by week 3 the go-to receiver will have emerged- of that I’m confident.
To me, the only real question is the defense. With the addition of Cutler, and his ability to make plays and maybe extend a drive a play or two or three, he’s giving the defense rest- will that be enough to help them return to dominance? We’ll see. We’ll see about a lot of things pretty soon, one thing I’m certain of, the receivers will look better.
by Skags on Jun 4, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Orton should improve a lot as a passer, but decline as a winner.
He has the weapons now and a better offensive system that should fit his style, but unless that defense gets much better, he be piling up the losses.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
by #23 on Jun 4, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
David Carradine is dead...
and i just used a line from “kung fu” on this site… weird!!!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 4, 2009 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I just found that out by you saying that…He killed himself???
Think With Your Dipstick Jimmy!
by ifuwannacrownem on Jun 4, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO!!!
actually it was “FIRST YOU MUST SNATCH PEBBLE FROM HAND, GRASSHOPER”…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 4, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am a firm believer
that Sizzle has the potential to make defensive coordinators fear Hester just like special teams used to fear him…
PC Load Letter? WTF does that mean?!
by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on Jun 4, 2009 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
as long as
our buddy ron turner can call a decent play every now and then. f*ck it, if he doesn’t, jay will just pull a griese on him and do it himself.
by genetic on Jun 4, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY!!!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 4, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see how many he would call for Grossman
Turner adapts to the QB. He’ll call long passes. With Grossman he called to many. He needed to chill out Rex in 06, but he loved his arm and knew we could get some points eventually. Didn’t always work and Rex got a big head.
Jay will get 3-4 streak routes every game called. I guarantee. Heck Orton got 2 per game.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
by #23 on Jun 4, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read somewhere
that there were 12 plays last season that would have been 50+ yards where Hester had a D-back beat, but the pass was underthrown and resulted in an incompletion. If the throws are accurate and Hester catches more than half of them, he’s a 1,000 yard receiver and every one of those is a touchdown!
by War Admiral on Jun 4, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
let's be realistic now
jay could probably miss on one or two of those, he is human. i mean, that would only have been an extra 500 or so yards and maybe 10 TD’s.
yeah, i agree with dungy. let’s get rid of this guy, he won’t make very much of a difference.
by genetic on Jun 4, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but those are only the ones where Hester was targeted
Imagine the ones where Orton didn’t even look at him because we knew he couldn’t hit him or the amount of plays that Turner didn’t call for Hester to go deep because it didn’t work. You’ll see even more opportunities then last year and Hester’s moves are also getting better.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
by #23 on Jun 4, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to be the pessimist
but…. perhaps this says more about our defense than the WR’s????
just a thought…
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 4, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
These OTA's are all NON CONTACT.
When the hitting starts…. Oh wait, Lovie doesn’t allow hitting in training camp…. well you get my point (even if Lovie doesn’t)
"Like a young contortionist, for the first time coming into his own...." -Bert Sugar
by Just Dave on Jun 5, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my only concern
is that the team gels a bit too quickly. we start blowing teams out. then the bandwagon fans with the “good as the 85 bears non sense.”
we have a QB now so teams will actually have to play us honest. (no more 8 in the box)
Our D can rest a bit. we lost so many games last year because the D was on the field nearly the whole time, and was dead on their feet by the 4th.
our WR are fine even davis, for once we have more than we need. this year we will have a a solid team maybe even able to hold our own again the bug time teams. we may not win every game but i dont see us being blown out.
our defense will be nasty like in 06. last year before all the injuries the first halfs our D was solid normally it was a breakdown in the later half that killed us. i can’t wait for the season to start.
by chinative on Jun 4, 2009 9:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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