The Weekend Bears Den - 6/6/09

....where the unveiling of the "Jay's our Quarterback" t-shirt in NorskieLand was met with glares, stares, and a Broncos fan's "Good luck with Jay....we have Neckbeard now!"
In The Den
Associated Content
Daniel Ness believes that the Bears are ready to dominate in 2009.
Buffalo News
The Buffalo News previews the eight divisions in the NFL and finds the Bears to be the top of the NFC North.
ChicagoBears.com
Another LTP article: Looks like LTP is fitting in well as a Bear.
Chicago Sun Times
Brandon Rideau is making the most of his time working with the 1st team.
Brad Biggs reviews the Israel Idonije, LTP, and rookie contracts.
Chicago Tribune
Rick Morrissey is an idiot and I'm really excited to watch him eat his words after this article.
Matt Forte will be sidelined until late next week.
Daily Herald
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morrissey sucks infected winky
at least there are several half-decent beat writers in chicagoland. this tool just about evens out the landscape.
i like that more non-local opinions are a’climbin aboard the bandwagon. please hurry up september.
by reefermadness3 on Jun 6, 2009 11:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
morrissey is such an idiot,
I want to know who in the world thinks dungey is a saint, all I have ever heard about him is he is like a mentor to people, I’ve never heard anything about transubstantiation.
"snuffalufagus fucks my shit up"
by leopoldjones on Jun 7, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Ya’ll will like my article on Monday then.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Jun 7, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you either cruch dungery or morrissey
at first I didnt care too much about this story I thought it was non news, why did they even ask dungey about cutler anyway, but then no one would let it die and now both morrissey and dungey have joined tom brady, heinz ward, jared allen and others, on my hate list (which is constantly being updated)
"snuffalufagus fucks my shit up"
by leopoldjones on Jun 7, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did they ask Dungy about Cutler anyway?
Because Dungy asked someone to. Because Lovie asked Dungy to make a negative comment about Cutler. Reverse psychology. Dungy does not strike me as the type of person to say negative things about a QB, that is coached by one of his best friends (doesn’t seem way out of left field?). My conspiracy theory works. Sorry, I know that I may sound silly, but it just makes sense to me.
by rdent4hof on Jun 7, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Because Dungy asked someone to
Yeah, a reporter. He’s a big shot analyst now and this trade was huge news in the off season… Lovie isn’t the type to purposely mess with guys’ heads. I don’t buy your theory.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Jun 7, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What you call “mess” with guys’ heads, I would call passively motivating. My theory is very similar to what Bill Parcells would do. Parcells once told Lawrence Taylor that the team was considering to trade the future H.O.F.‘r. Swelled with anger Taylor had one of the best games of his career. Parcells later told Taylor that trading him was never even a thought. So calling it “terrible” or say that it would be messing with some ones head are certainly your opinions and I respect that. I wish my theory was true (not because I could say “I told you so”) because it would mean Lovie was adopting similar ideas of motivating, that of Parcells. It’s a copy cat league and who better to copy?
by rdent4hof on Jun 8, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and then...
taylor turned to finding solace in smoking crack because of this emotionally disturbing episode. cutler doesn’t need that, i heard it’s bad for diabetes. wilford brimley told me so.
by genetic on Jun 8, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
morrissey is an idiot
the media is one major problem with anything and everything that happens. what a waste of time reading that article. the season needs to just start to shut these guys up.
how do you weigh draft picks on a pro bowl player? Especially when alot of early round players are busts. this kid was the man in Denver when Shannahan was there. he had little to no help when it mattered. insert a new coach that wants another QB, you’d be pissed too.
The Bear veterans will make sure Cutler becomes the leader he should. remember this is the team he wanted to play for.
sorry i’ll go back to my corner now.
by coolgjc on Jun 7, 2009 3:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Saint reference
is him playing off the fact that Dungy is a spiritual person and promotes Christianity. It is like calling someone Preach. There was some basis for the comment, but I still don’t agree with Morrissey’s analysis.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
by #23 on Jun 7, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last time I checked
Football is a team sport Morrissey.
It means a bona fide star would not have played poorly in the final three games last season, causing his team to miss the playoffs.
This comment is rediculous considering the Broncos defense was like swiss cheese in those last three games. 112 points against in three games….need I say more.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack." - Sun Tzu
by propheteer on Jun 7, 2009 2:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
SUPERMAN QUARTERBACK
not even the greatest quarterback in football history can carry a defence as well as lead an offence.we have a defence that can win a game on its own.now as ja says it starts at the qb.
by stepeo on Jun 7, 2009 2:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is no one here actually reading the article that Morrissey wrote?
I’m not a big fan of his and disagree with a lot of what he normally writes, but I can’t see where he’s wrong here. He never says Cutler “is going to fail” or will never be the QB we hope he is. All he said, like Dungy, is there are some legitimate concerns about his leadership qualities and that part still has to be proven. I know the defense for the Broncos was bad last year but Cutler did throw more interceptions than touchdowns in those last three games. He’s not the only reason they lost, but all of us fans have elevated him to Superstar status, so think about the top QB’s in the league and how many of them would have had 3 bad games in a row at the end of a season when you had a 3 game lead with 3 to play? Again, to blame him completely would be wrong, but to ignore that would also be wrong when you trying to evaluate him and improve things he needs to work on. Let’s not forget that he has never been on a winning team in college or the pros. I wrote this in another post and it fits here as well. No one is saying he should have taken mediocre teams and made them National or Super Bowl champs, but someone of his ability, at the most important position on the team, you would think one of those teams would have at least been one game over .500. The Broncos, when he took them over as starter had come off of some pretty good years with Plummer, but they felt he couldn’t get them over the hump. Cutler did not improve their record.
Before anyone starts having a coronary, I’m not saying Plummer was better or that Cutler can’t achieve what we all hope for, I’m just saying I don’t want the Bears to bury their heads in the sand either. Let’s see how he reacts to much more intense media pressure than he’s ever faced before and as fans, let’s not overreact to anything he does, either positively or negatively. Let the guy play and develop. That’s how I interpreted the article.
by BearFan611 on Jun 7, 2009 8:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let me piggyback on your idea
What gets me is that people all over have to comment on what idiots there are in the media. “Morrissey sucks, he doesn’t have a clue” or “David Haugh’s a moron”. Guess what people, if you hate them so much QUIT READING THEM! Everytime you comment or post about these reporters you are sending one message loud and clear to their bosses. YOU ARE READING WHAT THEY WRITE!!! You’re buying the newspapers, reading the articles on-line and you are responding to them. You are giving them a great review every time you blast their opinions and attack their credibility. You might have really good points but if you seriously hate them quit reading them and what’s more quit commenting on it!!
"The cup is not half empty and neither is the cup half full. The cup's just too damn big." -George Carlton
by Just Dave on Jun 7, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that's a great idea
minus the fact that at this point in the offseason, anything Bears is hard to come by.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Jun 7, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, just because someone doesn't like certain people in the media doesn't mean they have to be quiet either.
Relax. If people hate them enough, obviously they won’t read them. Unless they are deranged and just get a kick out of being miserable and bitter.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
by #23 on Jun 7, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read what he wrote.
When he blamed Cutler for the last 3 losses of the season, he lost a lot of credibility. Jay Cutler put up a ton a points in those 3 games. Made some mistakes, but those games had much more to do with defense then offense. He is twisting facts to say something that really wasn’t what happened.
Here’s the other problem I see. The guy has an opinion that this was a bad move, probably because he thought we gave up too much, and he is looking for anything to prove it. He’s trying to act like he is looking at both sides, but he basically wrote the entire article to say see what I wrote before was right. Dungy thinks so, so listen to me. That is very conceited. Let your work stand for itself. You don’t have to find people and back it up. If your work is good and points are good people will be moved by them alone. It just shows how weak his arguements were to begin with that he had to rewrite the article and spend the majority of it all based on why someone else’s opinion agrees with his.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
by #23 on Jun 7, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cutler leaving denver
not so much the broncos saw something they didn’t like making him tradeable, but more Cutler wanting to get off of the sinking ship that he perceives the Broncos captained by McDaniels to be. [it was not intentional but writing that last sentence makes me wonder if McDaniels in many ways wants to be the star/captain now that he is Head Coach and wanted to put Cutler the captain and leader of the team in his place].
Maybe there is something to be said about a player playing for his team no matter how bad the situation is, but the narrative in my head [because that is what i want it to be] is that McDaniels came is as a not it all prick (hate those guys) and Cutler used the trade speculation as an opportunity to get out of Dodge [and play for his favorite team / the best team ever…. kinda surprised more players haven’t done the same to don a bears uni].
by No It All on Jun 7, 2009 9:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
trust me... it'll start happening!!!
the writing is on the wall!!! hell, even sapp wants to play for us!!!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 7, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm, I read something similar on Yahoo Sports:
In Denver, McDaniels’ sloppy handling of his interactions with Jay Cutler after an unsuccessful attempt to trade him at the start of free agency led to the loss of a franchise quarterback, largely because the 33-year-old coach was obsessed with demonstrating his unquestioned authority.
"They tried to take out the quarterback, and if they managed that, they tried to take out the backup." - Bears SB20 TE Emery Moorehead, on the mentality of *that* defense
by Spongie on Jun 7, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anyone wants to bring up Cutler's last 3 games
Someone should mention to them that Orton didn’t exactly light it up down the stretch last year when it counted, throwing 4 TDs and 6 INTS but the team went 2-1 and just missed the playoffs. We needed OT to win those two games so it easily could have gone the other way.
My logic with this is, if you want to say Cutler isn’t good down the stretch or whatever, then the Bears are no worse off than when they had Orton and he was a solid starter.
So yeah, I’d take the more athletic, stronger-armed, better career completion % QB over a guy who can’t make all the throws.
by GallopingGhost on Jun 7, 2009 11:05 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
indeed
like when orton tried to give the saints game away in the 2nd half? listening to jaworski trash orton did it for me (think that was the fudgepacker game though)
by reefermadness3 on Jun 7, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The news on Rideau
was encouraging. I would much rather he have an opportunity over Davis. From now on, I will be known as “Captain Obvious”.
by rdent4hof on Jun 7, 2009 11:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Well played sir.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Jun 7, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was thinking that we should make you...
head of the dept. of redundancy dept.
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jun 7, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cannon Arm
I can’t wait to see Cutler in action! The last cannon-armed quarterback we had was Bobby Douglas. LOL
by KC Bearfan on Jun 7, 2009 1:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the only way anyone should use "cannon" and "arm" when describing Douglass
is if it was used to shoot it off. He stunk as a QB.
by BearFan611 on Jun 7, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like how Daniel Ness spoke about the current Bears fans.
He spoke of the “da Bears” Super Fan phrase with distaste and seemed to think that the “Monsters of the Midway” is a dead identity. Dunno where he’s coming from.
by Black Sox Baseball on Jun 7, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Rideau is going to be a revelation in 2009
He wont’ be a star, but I think he is going to surprise a lot a people and catch 40 to 50 balls.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
by BLou on Jun 7, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You mean… someone’s going to sign him when we don’t put him in the roster (again)? :-D
"They tried to take out the quarterback, and if they managed that, they tried to take out the backup." - Bears SB20 TE Emery Moorehead, on the mentality of *that* defense
by Spongie on Jun 7, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously Cutler didn't handle the Denver/McDaniel situation the best.
Not that he was necessarily wrong, but he probably could have handled the whole thing better. However, the fact is that he’s the best QB this team has had in at least 20 years, probably closer to 60. You don’t need to keep poking and prodding and trying to find fault with him. YOU GIVE HIM THE F***ING BALL AND RIDE HIM TO A CHAMPIONSHIP!!! Stop trying to tear him down before he even gets on the field in the name of “objective journalism.” You’re a damn hometown sports reporter, you’re not Edward Murrow.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay
by JerBear50 on Jun 9, 2009 2:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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