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Will The Bears Add Another WR?

Get used to seeing our current WR's, kids.

In Brad Biggs' Four Down Territory, this question was posed: "I am getting tired of watching time go by waiting for the Bears to add a wide receiver before training camp opens. When is it going to happen? It would give you some actual news to write about."

Biggs' response:

Hope you've got extra sand in that clock you're using. Otherwise, might be time to head to the beach and get some more. It looks like the Plaxico Burress issue is dead for the Bears. By pushing off his court case as much as his possible, Burress looks to have really made it more difficult for him to get on the field in 2009. Matt Jones completed a drug court program earlier this month in Arkansas that has reportedly wiped the felony charge off his record. While the Bears are known to have done extensive homework when it comes to Burress, they haven't shown any known interest in Jones. Lovie Smith has stated time and time again that the team is happy with the wide receivers it has. Could a move happen before camp? It's possible and we always appreciate "actual news" to blog and write about. Don't discount the very real possibility (dare we say likelihood) that the Bears go with what they have. General manager Jerry Angelo, no doubt, has an emergency list of receivers but it might take just that--an emergency--before you see a new wide receiver in uniform.

In two words: Not likely.

I know a lot of us have championed the thought of getting another WR before camp (myself included), but it looks like Jerry's happy with the team. Who can blame him? He pulled off a huge deal for Cutler and doesn't feel comfortable mortgaging our future for a WR.

There are other good questions through the article, so make sure you take a couple minutes and read it.

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Even though Angelo, Lovie, Cutler, and everyone in between

has said that they are happy with our current set of WRs (after all, what else would they say?), I really think that Training Camp will be the ultimate litmus test as to where we stand.

Sure, Cutler will make our WRs a lot more dangerous than a lot of QBs could, but going from a roster full of #3 WRs last year to a roster full of question marks this year isn’t a good thing.

We know Hester is our top guy, but outside of him, we just don’t know. Hopefully, at least one of Bennett, Knox, Iglesias, Rideau, etc will step up and be a compliment to Hester, but who friggin knows.

Question is, what happens if Training Camp shows us that we really are not in a good place with our WRs? Do we then go after someone on the market, or try and work in a trade? That would be very late in the offseason to make a move…

LSU Tigers Baseball... NCAA National Champions- 2009.

by Dane Noble on Jul 10, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

yes, and pointless

there is no point at all to go after a receiver after training camp. Like it or not, this is a rebuilding year for the team. any more roster moves should be done for making a big run next season.

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 10, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rebuilding year?

I don’t agree. We’re contending for (maybe even favorites for) the NFCN crown this year. Heck, we were in the race last year with a much weaker roster. If there is a viable move that helps us for this year, we should do it.

by RomeoSierra on Jul 11, 2009 6:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

agree to disagree

But sorry, I don’t see Cutler improving the offense by leaps and bounds in year one. much like the ’08 dolphins, A playoff berth means successful rebuilding year. .

I just don’t see them as superbowl contenders yet

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 11, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can never count out a SB though.

We weren’t suppose to go to the big dance three yr.‘s ago either. I am hoping for big things this year like everyone else. I think they have a really good shot at going to the big dance this year and maybe even winning. Let’s hope for a healthy season.

Hear about the blind hooker, you gotta hand it to her.
Rex Grossman has to be a test-tube baby, cause he's not worth a f---!!!

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jul 12, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

We weren’t suppose to go to the big dance three yr.‘s ago either

I wouldn’t go that far. 2005 was clearly an indicator we were superbowl contenders.
As for this season, just too many new pieces. Playoffs is believable just not the superbowl

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 12, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

The litmus test

Finally we’ll be able to find out if our current group of wideouts are acid or basic.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jul 10, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice

i’m glad to see someone remembers their high school chemistry class. hopefully cutler and hester will develop a covalent bond during camp.

by genetic on Jul 10, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

They need a number 1 WR

Hester is great but not a go-to guy. I say they’ll give the Buress deal another thought when training camp starts.

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jul 10, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

How's that?
By pushing off his court case as much as his possible, Burress looks to have really made it more difficult for him to get on the field in 2009

If it’s likely he won’t play in 09 why would they give the deal another thought?

I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T

by Ditkavsworld on Jul 10, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing is in stone yet

Thats why I think they may give more thought to it when training camp comes around. Either way you guys need a number 1 WR.

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jul 10, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Plax thing has been beaten to death.

I really don’t see him in a Bears jersey this year. Probably not ever. We have a number one, he just happens to be a number two kill being a number one. Maybe we pick up someone closer to camp but i really don’t see much out there that would add overall value to the team. Harrison is probably the best bet. Although many on the site are Jonesing for Matt Jones.

I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T

by Ditkavsworld on Jul 10, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Matt Jones Sucks

Harrison is a much safer pick and I don’t care how old he is. Harrison could atleast be good for Hester in learning more about the position.

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jul 10, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only opinions

This topic is driving me crazy because its beaten to death. Everyone has their opinion but only few opinions count, I don’t think any of us are head coach or GM so ours doesn’t matter.

My personal opinion is that I would like a CHEAP veteran that won’t change our offense. I know Ron Turner isn’t creative, but I want to see what he has in store. I want a veteran as insurance in case 1) Hester goes down, 2) we find out our rookies have BraylonEdwards disease and grow giant holes in the middle of their hands.

by brands735 on Jul 10, 2009 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Preseason ...

will tell them if their WR’s are ok. If the offense struggles I can see them reach for help.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 10, 2009 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

JA
Who can blame him?

We can blame him! I just don’t want to see another repeat performance of last year. You know what I’m talking about….dropped passes (TDs and crucial 3rd downs). I really don’t care to witness the Bears missing the playoffs because of their WRs for a second straight year. It’s a distinct possibility cause teams cannot rely on rookie receivers.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Jul 10, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

They were a big part of it

That, and of course the defensive line not getting pressure.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Jul 10, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Forte
Olsen
Clark
Hester

If Davis can get over his dropsies, he at least has EXPERIENCE.

Then all the young kids have POTENTIAL, and, presumably, talent.

Bennet now has KNOWLEDGE ( a year’s worth, of all three WR positions).
Ditto Rideau.

In my eyes, that’s PLENTY of weapons. As long as Forte, Olsen, Clark and Hester take even marginal steps forward, with Cutler’s influence, it will be a boost.

So even if none of the unproven guys REALLY step up, I think we’ll be fine.

Now, an injury to one of those primary targets (Hester, Olsen, Forte) really changes things—I’m definitely NOT comfortable with the idea of us going to war with Rashied Davis as our primary weapon.

In that case—a major injury—it might be smart to have a proven vet on the roster/in the mix.
Of all the speculation FA out there, I think Matt Jones presents the best uppside for the least amount of risk, and money.

by Amishbear on Jul 10, 2009 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Matt Jones is my pick

If we pick anybody up. For one he’s a veteran, two he’s young and has tremendous upside to him. I think we’ll be OK w/ what we have, I definitely wouldn’t mind seeing us pick up Jones though.

"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."

by Acreman20 on Jul 10, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Vet, young, cheap, suspension free and elite talent. Bring Jones in!

by rdent4hof on Jul 11, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

they don't need one

turner needs some creativity, that’s all. i’m reposting something i put in the ‘sleeper WR’ post, but it was late and i’m note sure many saw it. i think it’s a good idea, am i crazy?

how about some creativity from ron turner? i think you could cause some real problems for a defense, especially in the red zone with a package of olsen, clark, gaines, forte and jones. what is the D going to do then? if they pull their CB’s out since we don’t have a WR on the field then audible and send olsen and clark wide. they can both easily beat a LB out there. if they leave in a CB or two, then pull the TE’s in and run the ball or have forte and jones then flare out into the flat. either one of them would be open or olsen or clark would have tons of space in the middle of the field. and in anyone of these scenarios, no one is going to be paying attention to gaines with these other guys on the field- he should be wide open. i’d love to see forte and jones on the field together too.

hell, you could even use this at any point on the field at any time. i bet you would at least force the burning of a timeout.

by genetic on Jul 10, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Ron Turner...

had to work around the talents of Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton the last few years…

In 1995 a Ron Turner Bears offense saw quarterback Eric Kramer put up a Chicago Bears single season record for Att, Comp, Yds, and TD’s. The great receiving tandem of Jeff Graham and Curtis Conway both went over 1000 yards, and he had the rookie running back sensation Rashaan Salaam go over 1000 yards… and the Bears had the 9th best offense that year in yards, and the 8th best scoring offense (24.5)…

…for what it’s worth

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 10, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Yup,

and I remember one of the best OLines in the league too. It all starts in the trenches. Which is why I really, really, really hope CWilliams can step it up and play to a Pro Bowl potential.

LSU Tigers Baseball... NCAA National Champions- 2009.

by Dane Noble on Jul 10, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

And then Wandstadt utttered those famous words...

“All the pieces are in place.” And it all fell apart the very next year with the same personnel.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Jul 10, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand Angelo on this point

He’s just replaced one of the biggest bottlenecks in all the sporting world. A productive Chicago Bears QB is even more rare than a Republican in Seattle…it might even qualify as a ‘tribal myth’ at this point.

It’s entirely understandable that he’d want to observe actual results (meaning training camp, at least, not necessarily preseason or regular season games) before making a change further on down the production line.

Of course, we all want the big WR signing to go along with the big QB trade. But in the absence of a slam-dunk starter on the cheap, who are the Bears going to replace at WR? I don’t know if Bennett or Iglesias or Knox will bloom, but by the same token I’m not sure if I want someone like Matt Jones taking their spot on the roster at this point, either.

Patience, folks.

by BullsFanInSeattle on Jul 10, 2009 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Angelo has been very clear on this subject for months

Some chose to ignore Angelo’s telegraphing and instead blathered on about Plaxico and Boldin 24/7. Neither ever stood a chance of happening.

Bears will be okay with what they have. Amani Toomer is still sitting out there in case Lovie and Turner don’t like what they see in camp.

$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.

by BLou on Jul 10, 2009 5:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Whaa Whaa Whaa!!!

Alright already take a deep breathe and relax, for crying outloud I’m so sick of hearing and reading about people whining about our receivers, some of you fellow BEARS fans are never satisfied, for years we all b*itched about needing a franchise QB, now we have one, and you would think that make you happy, but no!!! Some of you people remind me of my x-wife nothing but whining and b*itching no matter what. We have a QB, now let’s see what he can do with our receivers, Eddie Royal was a rookie last year and Brandon Marshall was a not a 1st round draft pick people, you’ll see how good they are with Kyle throwing to them, their numbers are not gonna be pro bowl caliber people, remember its the QB that makes the receivers. Quit whining about wanting a #1 WR, what is out there that available, a soon to be convict with a me first attitude, an addict who never shown any signs of being a #1, a washed up veteran with his own gun problems, a few older #2 receivers at best, and a couple of receivers that we have nothing to offer in a trade. Let’s see what Cutler can do with Hester, Bennett, Knox, Olsen, and Iglasious, I didn’t mention Davis cause I think his time is done. But also remeber we have QB who is gonna take some chances to win, and he will throw some interceptions, second only to Favre last year, I just hope when that happens the media and moast fans don’t treat him like Rex.

by touchdown bears on Jul 10, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

This brings me back to a question I posed some time ago.

What if we hadn’t traded for Cutler, but had given up our 1st this year for Anquan Boldin and kept Orton? Everything else being equal, how would we all be looking at our team now? Would a better receiving corp have made an average Orton look good, or will a pedestrian corp make a good Cutler look average?

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Jul 10, 2009 6:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Cutler is more long term than Boldin.

And Orton just showed a little bit of consistancy for a few games last year. He ain’t a long term guy either. SackMan will tell ya…

LSU Tigers Baseball... NCAA National Champions- 2009.

by Dane Noble on Jul 10, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

You win because of the QB!

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Jul 11, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

if that were true

the saints would’ve been in the playoffs three years straight.

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 11, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

along with a good/great QB you still need a decent defense, which the Saints haven’t had while Brees has been there.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Jul 11, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

So what you're trying to say is

You win because of the QB!(and a good defense)

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 12, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, that pretty much sums it up! IMO

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Jul 13, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Just had to make sure you were still alive.

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by ChiFan13 on Jul 10, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wrecked that!

I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T

by Ditkavsworld on Jul 10, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you

we’ve been talking about the same crap for weeks. who will we add at WR? who won’t we add? who gives a shit? who doesn’t?

what color kool-aid should we drink today?
i like snow.

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.

by junkhorse on Jul 10, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like "ad infinitum" too

"They tried to take out the quarterback, and if they managed that, they tried to take out the backup." - Bears SB20 TE Emery Moorehead, on the mentality of *that* defense

by Spongie on Jul 11, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

QB's make the receivers.

Look at Dan Marino, no big threat receivers, until Randy Moss who did Tom brady have? He won 3 SB’s w/o Moss none with. Grant it a great WR wouldn’t hurt us, but we don’y know what we have. Some people think the glass is half empty, others half full, I just wonder, who the hells been drinking my beer!

by touchdown bears on Jul 10, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions  

That's right

look at Dan Marino, no big threat receivers and he had great stats and don’t forget all the superbowls he won….. oh wait, nevermind.

I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T

by Ditkavsworld on Jul 10, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

What you need in this modern era of football is a receiver with size, a receiver who can play slot and run precision routes and preferably a receiver with good burst and speed. But if you’ve got the right quarterback and the right system then you don’t need great names at receiver. An excellent quarterback makes the passing game work.

$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.

by BLou on Jul 10, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Deon Branch?

He’s been a bust in Seattle, but it’s hard to live up to a first-round pick in a deal that’s been criticized from the beginning.

I just wonder: If the Bears offered a mid-round pick, would Seattle bite? I think the guy can play — i just don’t think he’s a superstar. But he could certainly offer some veteran stability for us.

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Jul 10, 2009 10:28 PM CDT reply actions  

This is the first

new idea on WRs I have read in months! I’ll wreck’ it for that reason alone.

by rdent4hof on Jul 11, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

drew carter?

If he can still run he could be helpful.

If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.

by chi-town on Jul 11, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love Drew Carter

But he’s too injury prone.

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 12, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

WR

I think they should go after Harrison

by f a S on Jul 11, 2009 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

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