NightLink: QBs Drafted By the Bears Since Jim McMahon
by Dane Noble on Jul 10, 2009 6:23 PM CDT
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Sid Luckman, Jim McMahon, Jay Cutler- 3 quarterbacks in 70 years worth being proud of... and Cutler hasn't even played a game in a Bears uniform yet. There have been a few other QBs in that span to put up a year or two of good numbers, but we all know nothing stuck.
Just for fun, I've pulled some information from bearshistory.com relating to the Bears QB situation since 1979. But for the sake of this NightLink, let's just look at the QBs drafted since McMahon's days in a Bears uniform.
Jim Harbaugh, Michigan: Legend has it that Ditka threatened to quit when he was overruled in the draft room about taking Harbaugh with the 26th pick of the 1987 draft. Harbaugh was vilified at times by Bear fans, but is still the team's all-time leader in attempts, completions and ranks second to Luckman in passing yards. After Harbaugh's seven seasons in Chicago, he signed with Indianapolis where he was voted to the Pro Bowl following the 1995 season. Drafted: 1987 (1) Started in: 1988-1993 Released: 1994----Peter Tom Willis, Florida State: Like all other backup quarterbacks, Willis was a very popular backup to fans: until he played. He got his chance to start in 1992 when a frustrated Ditka benched Harbaugh. Willis played pedestrian at best, throwing eight interceptions and four touchdowns in two starts. Drafted: 1990 (3) Started in: 1992-1993 Released: 1994----Will Furrer, Virginia Tech: Furrer was a strong-armed left-handed quarterback with promise. The promise faded in his only start, Ditka's last game at Dallas. He completed 9 of 25 passes for 89 yards and three interceptions against the Super Bowl-bound Cowboys. Drafted: 1992 (4) Started in: 1992 Released: 1993----Moses Moreno, Colorado State: Stenstrom was so bad that rookie seventh-round pick Moses Moreno started a game in 1998. He injured his knee, ending his career for the Bears. Drafted: 1998 (7) Started in: 1998 Released: 1999----Cade McNown, UCLA: Petulant, arrogant, smarmy, you name a few adjectives to describe the quarterback predicted to be the next Jim McMahon. Declared that he didn't drink, smoke or have premarital sex, but he was indicted for misusing handicapped parking placards. Angered his teammates so much that they reportedly threatened mutiny if he were started over Matthews in the final game of 2000. Had brief stops in Miami and San Francisco but never threw another pass in the NFL following a final completion against Detroit in the 2000 finale. Did pocket close to $20 million on his rookie deal. Drafted: 1999 (1) Started in: 1999-2000 Traded: 2001----Craig Krenzel, Ohio State: Picked in the fifth round in 2004, ended up starting due to the utter misery that was Quinn's play. Became the starter on October 31st and won three games in a row--not bad for a rookie--but was helped immensely by his defense and poor competition. Injured on Thanksgiving at Dallas and was supplanted by Chad Hutichinson. Drafted: 2004 (5) Started in: 2004 Released: 2005----Kyle Orton, Purdue: Pressed into duty when Grossman injured his ankle, and Hutchinson stunk, in the 2005 preseason. Became only the second rookie quarterback since 1970 to win 10 starts, but like Krenzel he was helped greatly by a great defense. Deserves a lot of credit for steadying the ship in 2005 prior to Grossman's return. Orton has also been installed as the third starter of the 2007 season, and has played remarkably well as the fulltime starter in 2008. Drafted: 2005 (4) Started in: 2005, 2007-2008----Rex Grossman, Florida: In 2006, Grossman became the first Chicago Bears quarterback since 1995, and only the third since 1981, to start all 16 games in a season. Alternately celebrated as a potential MVP and vilified as the team's worst problem, he led the 2006 Bears to the Super Bowl. Then generally stunk in that game. Entered the 2007 season with a goal of throwing 30 touchdowns and less than 10 interceptions, Grossman was benched after three games, then returned to start four more before suffering a season-ending knee injury. Final 2007 statistics: 4 touchdowns, 7 interceptions and a 67.1 QB rating. Drafted: 2003 (1) Started in: 2003-2008
Granted this information has not been updated, but we also haven't drafted a QB since Orton. I could provide my own feelings about these guys, but rather will leave it to you to download how you feel. If you get a chance, head over to the QB page I pulled this from, and it will list out other QBs that we either signed as free agents or acquired in trades. Then, revel in your comfort of having the first Pro Bowl QB in 24 years. Have a good weekend!
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Makes me nauseas
Now do the same on our WR’s, nobody special since the Ditka era comes to mind, sure Grahmn and Conway were good, but nothing to get over excited about, I recall one good season for both, correct me if I’m wrong.
by touchdown bears on Jul 10, 2009 7:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They gave up on Bobby Engram waaay too early.
As to your article, I remember at training camp in Platteville watching Cade McNown standing alone on the sideline. He was actually treated like a cancer by his team. It was remarkable.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
by Just Dave on Jul 10, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sexy rexy
i wish he woulda got his shit figured out. he had one hell of an arm
by MAY on Jul 10, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm....
Well we have a REAL quarterback now, so who cares?
"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."
by Acreman20 on Jul 10, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
apparently he does
I hope cutler will get us more wins this year, easily one of the best fantasy QB’s in the pros
I Have Spoken.
by The_Fan on Jul 11, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also liked his demeanor
Confident, but not cocky. I don’t believe the rumors that he got scared easily. I just think he was a bit too much of a gambler to stick in this league.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 11, 2009 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy feet and slippery hands
Where did these come from then? If he wasn’t scared, nervous, or intimidated by the opposing defense then what was it?
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
by propheteer on Jul 11, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about scared, at least when he first came into the league,
but I always felt he was too small which caused some of those problems you described. Also, while he may have had a strong arm, it never really showed because he very often threw from a bad position since he couldn’t see over the rushing lineman. I always thought he had too much of a windup to put anything on the ball and that extra “split second” was enough, at the pro level, to lead to interceptions.
I do agree with you, that the last 2 years, he also had some “deer in the headlights” in him when it was obvious he couldn’t get away with the things he did in college.
by BearFan611 on Jul 11, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, he certainly regressed beyond words his last two seasons.
I agree most of his misfortune had a lot to do with his height; albeit indirectly. It caused him to continually to throw off his back foot when pressured, which led to the added split-second you’re talking about.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
by propheteer on Jul 11, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also a problem for poor rex
was the 2 serious leg injuries he suffered in 04 and 05. To me it ultimately left him a lesser player because it turned his barely-adequate mobility into a liability. Coupling that with his Bad Rex tendencies, well you get the picture. I suppose it doesn’t matter though as all of this is in the BC (BeforeCulter) years. This year is 1 AD (AnnualDominance) GO BEARS!
man this koolaid is delicious this year.
by reefermadness3 on Jul 11, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's call it "Bearaid"
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
by propheteer on Jul 11, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed
this bearaid is awesome!
by reefermadness3 on Jul 11, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's got an ancient, secret ingredient
called “grains of Bearidise!”
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
by propheteer on Jul 11, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can someone answer this questionfor me?
Why doesn’t Rex get some slack for the fact that maybe his game changed after his injuies? Correct me if I’m mistaken, but with the exception of his finger injury, the guy’s first big injury came running into the endzone on turf. Then his second big injury came running out of the pocket in the preseason where he broke his anlke. I mean he did bust his tail to come back and play after each injury right? So maybe Rex wasn’t scared or intimidated, but maybe he was just trying to finish a freaking season and was weary of going down again.
by Dils on Jul 11, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was never that good in college.
that’s why. same guy for the last 10 years. THROW IT UP.
by mike b on Jul 12, 2009 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
runner up
for an award tht doesn’t translate into NFL success anyway. Oooooh Boy.
by mike b on Jul 12, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You said "he was never that good in college"
What does that have to do with his NFL play?
by Dils on Jul 12, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would havebeen great
but he was done in Chicago
I Have Spoken.
by The_Fan on Jul 11, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Classic
I think it’s great that the best QB you guys have had since McMahon(Who sucked as well) hasn’t even played a snap for you yet. Cutler will be great for you guys.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jul 10, 2009 9:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
QB's who win Super Bowls don't suck (as you so eloquently put it)...
Glad to see that ridiculing other teams makes you feel better about your own team’s consistent mediocrity.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 11, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny.
The 49er’s HC, Mike Singletary, on an a show on the NFL network about clutch players, talked about Jim McMahon and how he rescued the Bears in week three in Minnesota in 1985.
Singletary has often referred to that game (and McMahon’s superlative play) as the launching pad for the ’85 Bears.
Anyone who claims that Jim McMahon sucks really is clueless about the NFL
by GeoMak on Jul 11, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blah Blah the Bears had a great defense
And speaking the truth doesn’t make me feel better about my mediocre 9ers either. And I wasn’t rediculling the Bears either. To put it eloquently if that’s what you want, McMahon was mediocre. Not great.
TDS
100
INT
90
YDS
18,148
RTG
78.6
Great for a QB on the Bears. Not as good as Luckman. Mediocre when compared to the great NFL QB’s.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jul 13, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MAY
WTF? Are you Gross Man’s mom or something?
by Big Ike on Jul 10, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Try the reply button.
Do you have to be someone’s mom to root for them?
LSU Tigers Baseball... NCAA National Champions- 2009.
by Dane Noble on Jul 10, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ol' what if?
Marcus Robinson was big time until he got injured. Unfortunately we’ll never know what could’ve been.
by Big Ike on Jul 10, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marcus Robinson was one hell of a WR
I like how he decided to retire as a Bear.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 11, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Overloooked
I didnt think Harbaugh was a bad qb at all. I think if memory serves me right he led us to a couple of playoffs. It’s sad if you dont win the Super Bowl you are nothing. I think Rex did a fine job getting us there. Sure they stank during the most important game but the “mighty d” did not show to the big game.
I cant remember when we had a real wr star and any one that showed promise was lost the following season. I cant help get the feeling that Hester is not the threat everyone is hoping for. We need a big time wr that can click with cutler otherwise he will just be another Flutie.
by JSar on Jul 11, 2009 12:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
An undersized QB known only for an amazing college TD pass lol
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by ThorCo on Jul 11, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harbaugh was that bad. I'd say he was comparable to Kyle Orton, unreliable on any pass over 20 yards.
Strictly a game manager. Physically untalented with a knack for not seeing wide open receivers. He was the master of throwing the ball away, even when he had men open.
by BigGeorgeTX on Jul 11, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um no
I watched Jimmy Harbaugh win games seemingly by himself, and it’s not like he had more offensive talent in Indy than he did in Chicago. The problem with Harbaugh was Ditka, a humorous guy but a VERY over-rated head coach who didn’t know jack about offensive football.
Again, with Ditka, he was an average QB. A season after leaving Dikta, he’s playing brilliantly in one of the greatest AFC Championship games of all time. So please, so some respect to the man. He could clearly play QB.
It was your shitty coaches that there the problem.
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by BigBlueShoe on Jul 11, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the love of Ditka!!!!!
The problem with Harbaugh was Ditka, a humorous guy but a VERY over-rated head coach who didn’t know jack about offensive football.
Ditka is not a problem, he is the solution. And yes I’m wearing my Bear colored glasses and drinking my Ditka-Aid right now.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 11, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of coaches.
Good luck this year!
I think you’ll need it and then some.
by rdent4hof on Jul 11, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Offensive weapons.
Didn’t he have Marvin Harrison to throw to in Indy, too?
—d
by itsugly on Jul 11, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every time I think of Harbaugh
I think of that mother&#&#&#ing shovel pass they used to fail at a lot. As aggravating as watching McKie fail another 4th and 1 FB dive.
by reefermadness3 on Jul 11, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quarterback Schmorterback!
I heard recently from a reliable source (and hopeful Bears fan) that Cutler’s diabetes is a lot worse than is let on and it may adversely effect not only his ability to play football, but to live a normal life.
PS — the Bears won the Super Bowl in the 1985 season, a season that the Bears media guide lists FIVE QBs used. Yes, that does include Payton a few times. But is the QB position really that important when you can win a SB by QB-committee?
by DagoT on Jul 11, 2009 6:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Laughable Post
In 1985 Jim McMahon started 11 games and back-up Steve Fuller started 5 (McMahon came off the bench in the second half to relieve Fuller in two of his starts – Minnesota & Miami). That’s basically it as far as the QB position is concerned.
3rd string QB Mike Tomczak (in mop-up duty), RB Walter Payton and punter Maury Buford combined to throw TWELVE passes in 1985, in addition to the 420 passes thrown by McMahon/Fuller.
12 out of 432 passes, were thrown by the combination of T-Zak, Payton & Buford, which accounts for 2.7% of all passes thrown in 1985.
Suggesting that the ‘85 Bears had a ’ Quarterback by committee’ is truly insane.
If your source regarding Jay Cutler is as accurate as you are when it comes to the ‘85 Bears, Bear fans can relax when it comes to worrying about Cutler’s diabetes.
by GeoMak on Jul 11, 2009 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust you to come to the aid of the McMahon.
I though you’d disappeared. Welcome back.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
by Just Dave on Jul 11, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler, as a physical speciman
takes a back seat to almost nobody who has ever played the position.
If he has 1/2 to 3/4’s of McMahon’s leadership intangibles (along with Mac’s ability to read and pick apart defenses) then everything else will fall into place.
Like Ditka used to say, the O-linemen back then busted their asses to protect Jim, cause they loved playing with him and respected him so much.
If Cutler can bring that out in his guys, the Bears offense will be top 10, maybe higher.
by GeoMak on Jul 11, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A laughable comment, obviously from someone who's too young to have actually watched the 85 Bears dominate the NFL.
If the Bears had a healthy Jim McMahon in 1984 thru 1987 they would have had 4 Super Bowl victories. The Bears were arguably a better team in 1984 and definitely better in 1986. The missing piece was a healthy Jim McMahon. Jim was not the most physically gifted QB but he could instantly read the defense and would find the open man or audible to a better play. Jim was a leader and a gamer, in spades.
by BigGeorgeTX on Jul 11, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McMahon was/is a little off-his rocker...
he simply put his body on the line too often trying to make a play and got hurt. I never quite understood why he scrambled so often with Payton and Anderson in the backfield. And that O-Line, “the Black and Blues Brothers” was great, I remember getting one of those posters from a car dealership. Nonetheless, the Vikings comeback game in the “roller dome” showed his grit and tenacity as well as his abilities and solidified him as a tough guy on a defensively dominant team. Ditka hated to coach him because he was arrogant and at times inconsistent.
by LostInSTL on Jul 11, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ditka saw too much of himself in McMahon, which caused plenty of friction between them.
by BigGeorgeTX on Jul 11, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's it.
McMahon has said that he would have loved to have been a teammate of Ditka’s. He said that they would have got along great in that situation.
As it was, Jim wasn’t much for authority figures, no matter who they were.
Ditka didn’t hate to coach him because he knew that Jim was a winner and that’s exactly what the Bears needed under center. A winner.
by GeoMak on Jul 11, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ran a marathon with diabetes in 90 degree heat (Chicago '07) in just over 4 hours at age 35.
It didn’t affect me whatsoever. There’s this medication/hormone called insulin that’s manufactured in a labortory which helps afflicted people live happy and fairly normal lives. Cutler will have no problem playing for years to come, so long as he’s dilligent like many rational diabetics about their personal care.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
by propheteer on Jul 11, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
There’s this medication/hormone called insulin that’s manufactured in a labortory which helps afflicted people live happy and fairly normal lives.
That cracked me up. Well done.
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by ChiFan13 on Jul 11, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you sir
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
by propheteer on Jul 11, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great point, especially from someone who can speak from experience,
besides, does anyone really think the Bears or any of the other teams who wanted Cutler, would be dumb enough to NOT do the due diligence on this aspect of the biggest trade they ever were involved with? Ridiculous.
by BearFan611 on Jul 11, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's some quality speculation
good enough for the mcnair thread.
by mike b on Jul 11, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard recently from a reliable source (and hopeful Bears fan) that Cutler’s diabetes is a lot worse than is let on and it may adversely effect not only his ability to play football, but to live a normal life.
Your drug dealer is not a reliable source, I say drug dealer since you’d have to be high to spread this type of propaganda. And as far as the QB by committee in 85, I think you’ve been educated above quite nicely on that.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 11, 2009 8:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, obviously Cutler’s going to drop dead ANY MINUTE and we were fools to trade for him. Obviously!
"They tried to take out the quarterback, and if they managed that, they tried to take out the backup." - Bears SB20 TE Emery Moorehead, on the mentality of *that* defense
by Spongie on Jul 11, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comfort?
First pro bowl qb in 24 years? Does everyone forget the glory days of Slash Stewart so easily? Went to pro bowl 01 with the steelers
by MauryBufordSF on Jul 11, 2009 9:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I had forgotten
Now I remember… :-(
by rdent4hof on Jul 11, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gary Crowton's offense
Jim Miller, Michigan State: Miller was signed off the scrapheap in 1998 following Moreno’s knee injury. He was a longshot to make the roster in 1999. He responded by throwing for huge numbers in Crowton’s offense, then led the Bears to the playoffs in 2001. Almost as oft-injured as McMahon. Signed a five-year extension prior to the 2002 season, only completed one year on the deal. Signed: 1998 Started in: 1999-2002 Released: 2003
I loved seeing Miller run a potent Bears offense for the first time in many years. Too bad he got hurt early in the home playoff game (cheap Hugh Douglas hit) against the Iggles.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
by propheteer on Jul 11, 2009 10:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Miller was good, Kramer was nice as well as the recieving core was pretty solid Robinson , Conway, Graham, I think in the backfield we had the Ultraback, nice memories now its time to KIck some Viqueen Ass and Cheesespread as well as the kitties cause its our time Bear Faithful we got this Sh$% cant wait to say I told you so!
by payton#34 on Jul 11, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure during the Fog Bowl
Mc Mahon told his guys to do anythig because the refs couldn’t see. That game was a real Hoot! We need to get some of that swagger back. If Cutler can do that it’s all were going to need.
by luckie815 on Jul 11, 2009 12:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t that against the Eagles? I had a schoolfriend who was a Philly fan. Cracked me up :-D
"They tried to take out the quarterback, and if they managed that, they tried to take out the backup." - Bears SB20 TE Emery Moorehead, on the mentality of *that* defense
by Spongie on Jul 11, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At some point, you've got to ask yourself why the Bears go through QB's like bleep through a goose
Is it that they’ve drafted bad players, or are they just not developing any of them and not giving them the tools to succeed?
Hell, Tom Brady was a 6th round pick and Joe Montana was a 3rd rounder. They were both developed in successful systems and surrounded by quality players and coaches who taught them how to succeed. When Brady went down last year, look what happened – Matt Cassell gets plugged in and goes from being an unknown to a super star. Coincidence, or the product of a successful system and coaching staff that knows how to win? Why haven’t the Bears been able to draft a quarterback and then develop him into a successful player?
I guess maybe if Cutler can live up to his expectations, then this conversation will be moot.
by JimmyMack on Jul 11, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a good question
I think it has something to do with the Bears being a defensive team, historically.
They have really never had great coaches on the offensive side of the ball.
They drafted a great college QB in ‘82, Jim McMahon, who really didn’t need any coaching.
Hopefully Cutler, who has already proven his ability, will function in Chicago much the same way.
by GeoMak on Jul 11, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is great! You actually know all the qbs who played for you. As you know, I enjoy your website and it’s a refreshing change from the daily grind in Cowboy country, but I don’t even remember the names of all the qbs in cowboy history. We know two of them (they’re legends here) and we stopped looking for any other names. I’m glad that you like your qb and I hope that everything turns out okay for all parties involved. It’ll be interesting to see how the NFC ends up this year because there is so much youth at the qb position and that will make it exciting for all the teams. I think you play against Matt Ryan this year and I know that you’ll enjoy the show. That guy is awesome and he’s still developing. Contrary to what alot of people may believe all fans don’t feel the same way about Jay. I went to my season seat meeting with the cowboys and we talked about Jay…I didn’t find anyone that blamed him. Chicago, like Dallas, is a huge football market and we’ve had our share of the good, bad, and the ugly but it taught us alot. Patience for one thing…lord knows we’ve had players that have tested our last nerve. The road won’t always be smooth, but it’ll be worth the trip. You won’t have to endure going 1-15 so you have the leg up on my horrible beginning already! I hope that Jay can enjoy the same type of success that my 2 qbs did. Just like Dallas, when he wins the superbowl his picture will be everywhere and we love them to death. All cities haven’t had that type of experience unfortunately and I wish that more could. There’s nothing like a worshipped legend who was under center. I don’t know really how the city feels about Jim (I do remember him playing) because I could never get the vibe about his impact on the city after his career was over, could you fill me in. Let’s face it, cities are addicted to winning qbs and some can rise to god status. Honestly, Dallas has no problem worshipping ours and I know that you’ll do the same because we paid alot and got alot in return. Whatever happens to Romo happens..he’s not a legend. Guys, we just can’t allow just anything on the throne. Our cities demand some hardware so I don’t know about you but I’m ready to make room for another trophy. Good Luck!
Needagoodtime!
by Loveforjoy! on Jul 12, 2009 3:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think our QB situation was made worse by poor drafts
Not only the drafting itself but the draft position too, this team has not been bad enough in the modern era to have a top 10 pick often enough to get a shot at a legit QB. You get into the teens and 20s and all the QB picks have big question marks and big risks. McNown was passed over for some other garbage QBs but he obviously raised some flags. In ’03 we were stuck down in the twenties and picked the last first round QB, of course he was going to be terrible. Also searching mid and late rounds for a sleeper is fine but give the kid time to develop. I do not recall a team starting so many 3rd or lower round picks as rookies as this team has.
by GallopingGhost on Jul 12, 2009 9:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes - and no
John Elway was a # 1 overall pick. But Joe Montana was a third rounder and a disciple of Bill Walsh. Tom Brady was a 6th round draft pick, and he was developed by Bill Belechick and his coordinators. Brett Favre was a second rounder, and early on in his career he was mentored by Mike Holmgren. Curt Warner was undrafted out of Northern Iowa. And the list could on…
More and more, it’s the system that makes the quarterback, rather than the other way around. And the Bears just haven’t had a successful offensive system since the Mike Ditka era. See my comment above.
by JimmyMack on Jul 12, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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