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The Bears Den - 7/17/09

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....where the only thing we appreciate from Minnesota is the fishing.

In The Den

ChicagoBears.com

Larry Mayer previews the Bears linebackers. 

Chicago Sun Times

Lance Briggs is in a little bit of hot water. 

Brad Biggs discusses a variety of topics, including who left and came onto the Bears since the 2008 season ended.

ESPN Chicago

Kevin Seifert prefers Aaron Rodgers to Jay Cutler; Jeff Dickerson busted out the stats and showed why Cutler is better.

KFFL

Earl Bennett's fantasy football breakdown.

PFT

Donald Driver doesn't like the Bears receiving corps, which works out well for him because he plays on another team.

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Three kids in one year.

Why does this guy never seem to show up for athletes?

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay

by JerBear50 on Jul 17, 2009 4:23 AM CDT reply actions  

$1,500 / week

That’s $78,000 a year in non-taxable income the “baby” is receiving – and she wants more. And that’s only one of the three seeds. No wonder Briggs held out for more money.

- Smudgers

"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Jul 17, 2009 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Still lives in an apartment with her mother and grandmother...

Not her fault though he should have worn a raincoat or two… I swear sometimes these guys are just so damn stupid..

by Syndor on Jul 17, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not her fault though he should have worn a raincoat or two…

Yes, but it is her fault that she is a gold digger. I have a child, and it doesn’t cost any where near that to feed, house and clothe her. 2 year old’s do not eat fillet for dinner every night and care if they dress in Louis V.

Yes, he was/is dumb for putting himself in that situation. But she is no better.

- Smudgers

"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Jul 17, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

can you say being took..yes he should pay child support but when it turns out to be ex support its too much…$5 says she is unemployed and on welfare.

Bring back our honey bears...sick and tired of hearing about the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and the bars they go work at when they quit. cold weather + cheerleaders in skimpy outfits = lots of fun

by tomh115 on Jul 17, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think you can be on welfare

When youre getting 1500 a week. That is surely more than I make. Maybe she just lives with her grandma to get help with the kid since the dad isn’t around.

Let’s not make Briggs a victim here. He knows how babies are made. He’s rich, what is more important for him to spend money on? His kids or another sports car to wreck? A man is supposed to support his kids.

by BoxingHideout on Jul 17, 2009 8:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

i wouldnt know

but i dont think child support counts as income..im not trying to make anybody out to be a victim..but she is taking him..1500 a week? seriously..does a 2 year old need that kind of dough

Bring back our honey bears...sick and tired of hearing about the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and the bars they go work at when they quit. cold weather + cheerleaders in skimpy outfits = lots of fun

by tomh115 on Jul 17, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Solution: wear a condom when having random sex.

It’s like drinking and getting in your car, rather than taking a cab or a limo. They have the money, but lacking common sense.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

"We want to create havoc and chaos under an umbrella of discipline, if that makes sense." - Rod Marinelli 7/16/09

by propheteer on Jul 17, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

random sex...

with a girlfriend hardly counts as random good analysis below.. i would round up and do 1000 a week or 4k a month should be reasonable enough..still seems high to me

Bring back our honey bears...sick and tired of hearing about the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and the bars they go work at when they quit. cold weather + cheerleaders in skimpy outfits = lots of fun

by tomh115 on Jul 17, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe not with the woman in question

but what about the other three kids?

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

"We want to create havoc and chaos under an umbrella of discipline, if that makes sense." - Rod Marinelli 7/16/09

by propheteer on Jul 17, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Relevance?
Let’s not make Briggs a victim here. He knows how babies are made. He’s rich, what is more important for him to spend money on?

No one is making him out to be the victim. It is just ridiculous to assume that you need more than $1,500 a week (tax free) to support a child. Here’s an idea – she could get a job and actually use the money that was intended for the child – FOR THE CHILD!

To break this down in numbers:
› Food & Milk - $930 / month (avg. of $30 a day)
› Diapers, Wipes, etc - $100 / month
› Clothes & Toys - $500 / month
› Daycare—- $950 / month
› Water Bill - $50 / month*
› Electric Bill - $200 / month*
› College Fund - $625 / month
-————————————————————
$3,355

And the numbers above are VERY generous – no two-year old really needs $30 a day for food or $500 a month for clothes and toys. I also threw in the water and electric bill for the entire household since children like to watch t.v. and occasionally take baths – damn needy kids. And the $650 a month for the College fund would be enough to send the kid to Harvard with no financial aid. Yet, she is complaining about only receiving $6,500 a month in child support.

My thoughts: The money is not about the child’s welfare or with the child in mind – it is for the mother’s sake. Speculative, I know – but I don’t care. Comments like “We want Nariana to enjoy a lifestyle as any child whose father earns a substantial income might enjoy — certainly nothing less than he provides for his other children” strongly support my stance.

- Smudgers

"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Jul 17, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your numbers make sense, except it also should include

how the child would be treated if Briggs actually raised the child, as a parent, within his income level. I’m not saying I agree with it totally, but you can’t look at it from an average person’s income perspective. I also agree that she is definitely a gold digger and probably didn’t do a lot to prevent this from happening herself, but any professional athlete should be aware that these women are out there and looking for a payday. If it was one kid, with one woman, then I’d cut him some slack, anyone can make a mistake. But 3 different kids with 3 different women inside of a year is absolutely the height of being irresponsible. He should pay big time just for being that stupid.

by BearFan611 on Jul 17, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except those numbers aren't from the average person prospective.

Who do you know drops $930 a month on food for an entire family, let alone just for a two year old? Who do you know gets $500 a month on clothes and toys, or can afford to put $625 a month in a College fund?

And like I showed, those numbers only show a little over half of the money that she is currently getting and complaining about. Where does the other $3k go? I am guessing that those numbers wouldn’t be too much higher even if she and Lance were married and raising Nariana together. A kid can only eat so much and have so many golden plated rattles.

Irresponsible – yes! But he is already paying big time for being stupid and he is doing it three fold. At least he is making his child support payments, that’s more than some dead beat “dads” do.

- Smudgers

"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Jul 17, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chifan, Trust me. You're gonna wanna add this to the Bears Den

Look who’s running their mouth off at the mouth about the Bears Receiving Corps. Boy, I can’t wait till September.

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 17, 2009 6:04 AM CDT reply actions  

So

He’s a 7th round pick who’s career was made by Brett Favre telling us a QB can’t make a WR?

nah, don’t even put it on the board. He’s an idiot.

"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka

by EricEmpire on Jul 17, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Saw you said the same thing

On that board… Well done sir!

When I played I was a triple threat.... Stumble.... Fumble.....Grumble....

by scespy12 on Jul 17, 2009 11:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I have been saying this for months!

I really want the Bears to take a look at this guy. He’s a tight end with Wide Receiving Speed, and a massive Red Zone threat, who has only gotten more productive on the field.
And he comes cheaper than Torry Holt would have, Marvin Harrison, Plaxico “One Leg” Buress.

Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.

by BearNecessities on Jul 17, 2009 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've been on board for awhile now

I don’t want to see the Bears not make the playoffs cause of their WR corp.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

"We want to create havoc and chaos under an umbrella of discipline, if that makes sense." - Rod Marinelli 7/16/09

by propheteer on Jul 17, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reggie Williams is out there too

I think the Bears are waiting to start camp, see everyone in pads with contact, and re-evaluate the WRs again from there.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Jul 17, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you're right

but I agree that’s what they’ll do. First see who can play, then maybe add someone after the first week of camp.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

"We want to create havoc and chaos under an umbrella of discipline, if that makes sense." - Rod Marinelli 7/16/09

by propheteer on Jul 17, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ever been fishing on the west coast?

Caught my limit of king salmon, the my limit on abalone, then a 28 lb halibut all in the same day.

Also in San Diego you can fish for white marlin the fight lasts as long as an hour sometimes. That’s reel fishing right thar!

When I played I was a triple threat.... Stumble.... Fumble.....Grumble....

by scespy12 on Jul 17, 2009 11:52 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

striped marlin

Its striped marlin there. White marlin are an atlanic species. That sounds like a lot more fun than being in chicago with our 50 degree summer. Damn that global warming.

by Ryan21 on Jul 17, 2009 6:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah yer right... Have one of both in the garage...

Couldn’t remember where I caught em.

When I played I was a triple threat.... Stumble.... Fumble.....Grumble....

by scespy12 on Jul 18, 2009 12:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good for you!!!

Sounds awesome. You ‘re the first person I’ve heard talk about catching abalone. Freakin’ cool!

by rdent4hof on Jul 18, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

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