The Bears Den - 7/20/09

....where the only thing we appreciate from Michigan is....nothing.
In The Den
BoDog
This prediction places the Bears at 11-5 for the 2009 campaign.
Chicago Sun-Times
Brad Biggs discusses another Joyner chat and the cornerbacks.
The Bears extended their agreement with Olivet Nazarene through 2010.
Brad Biggs details the pass rushers and, more importantly, how expensive the good ones are.
Biggs also delves into Super Bowl winners who won with a Pro Bowl WR.
Chicago Tribune
Brad Childress believes Brett Favre's motion looks fine to him. Then again, Captain Aloof wouldn't know what a good throwing motion looks like.
The father of the accused gun seller in the Steve McNair case speaks out.
Jared Allen is annoyed with Brett Favre's antics.
ESPN
John Lynch says "buyer beware" on Brandon Marshall.
ESPN Chicago
Darren Woodson spoke with Jeff Dickerson and David Haugh on the Bears secondary.
Would the UFL survive in Chicago? Dickerson isn't so sure.
Mike Lombardi thinks the Bears defense is the problem this year. Thanks, Mike!
Jeff Dickerson discusses the future of ex-Bear Ian Scott.
Minneapolis Star Tribune
The Vikings' single-game seats are not available for the Packers and Bears games. Way to cut yourself short on money, genius.
WBAY
Donald Driver defended his comments about the Bears' receivers.
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Hester Shit all over Drivers numbers on Sep 13, I bet he has better numbers than Driver next year
"Game 7 of the 2011 Finals.. 10 seconds left in the game, the score is tied up 92-92.. Kobe with the ball he drives in.. IS BLOCKED by bosh, Rose picks it up Runs it down Throws up a pass to Wade.. WADE SCORES! GAME OVER ! BULLS WIN BULLS WIN!"
Hate to keep bringing this up...
but last year the Bears had basically the same receivers and went 9-7, bringing in a pro-bowl QB will only help their production. When we went to the Super Bowl, we didn’t have a number 1 WR? And I’m tired off all this crap about how good Broncos receivers are, Brandon Marshall came into this league as a unheralded 4th round pick and Eddie Royal was a unheralded 2nd round pick, not exactly world beaters. And Driver needs to learn to shut up, one of the golden rules of professional athletes is to not insult your fellow athletes.
And on the defensive backfield look at it this way, I know players need to play for a defense to be good but we have talent back their and we also have great coaches, Jon Hoke is considered one of the better DB coaches in the NFL and when Lovie Smith was a defensive coordinator and position coach his specialty was DBs. I am of the opinion that you need to be put in the correct position to succeed and that these two guys can figure out that position.
There’s no guarantee that Hester will have better numbers than Driver. You may not like what he said, but his team philosophy is different because the Packers will not use a punt returner as their #1 guy. All dynasties may not have a pro bowl receiver, but they had great ones. Jay isn’t any different, he wanted Marshall because of his ability. Jay Cutler is not a savior, he is one player on a team. If you want maximum effort then pay for the rest of the pieces. There’s no way the Colts and Patriots are parting with their receivers unless they have another one.
All qbs want a #1 guy, that’s why Chad isn’t leaving Cincy-he’s a great player. so is Jennings. I wouldn’t use a punt returner as my #1 guy either. They can play the compliment role as needed, but not a primary role.
Jay is not a savior for the bears. He can only perform his job and that’s it. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady perform their jobs and they leave the rest to those receivers. They do their jobs well, that’s why their rivalry is so great.
There’s no need to be mad at Jennings for what he said…that’s not just his philosophy, but the nfl in general. Qbs want big time receivers and their all not the same. Marshall and Royal may not have been known to us, but Shanahan could tell they had ability that’s why he drafted them to pair with Jay.
Jennings is entitled to say whatever he likes…he’s not the only one that thinks that way. I don’t know of any team that created a dynasty that had a punt returner as their #1 guy.
Needagoodtime!
Dynasty?
Are you saying that just because Steve Smith and Santana Moss are not on “dynasties” that they are not great receivers? Both started out as returners, both are (or have been) legitimate #1’s in this league.
There are very few “dynasties” in the NFL. And there are even fewer returners thrown in to the role of #1 receivers. On top of that, how many of those returners had great QB’s like Indy and NE. This is a unique situation, so hold off before being so quick to judge.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Jul 20, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the pointless insight.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 20, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Well if Haight were here
he’d handle it. I won’t go as far as to start a war over it though. :)
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 20, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.....
not really my style.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 20, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
DOTH THY CHALLENGE ME!!!!!
I will shed your blood on the steps of the most holiest of places. You shall then know you crossed the immortal George Halas and ye shall not tread on these grounds again…
Yeah not my style.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 20, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Almost feel like a pity wreck.
But I’ll take it. :)
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 20, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I just wish there was a way
That we could end up with three 1,000 yard receivers and Cutler will have like 35 TDs. Do you think then people would shut up? Probably not, then it’d be like ‘But the receivers are TOO good.’ We can’t win…
by Sam Householder on Jul 20, 2009 11:11 AM CDT reply actions
Maybe, Apples.
If there’s one position where you can win with average talent it’s the wide receiver. Most winning teams do so because of great Q.Bs great running backs, or great defenses. Please name me 1 team that ever won anything because the main piece was a receiver, I’ve got all day.
Not even the fishing?
It has to be good there… Right?
When I played I was a triple threat.... Stumble.... Fumble.....Grumble....
by scespy12 on Jul 20, 2009 2:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
"Buyer Beware" article from espn.com
was very informative.
I especially liked Lynch, talking of how he didn’t care for the broncos making Cutler out to be a bad guy.
What about trading for Chris henry?
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 20, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions
Mackinaw fudge?
Is the only good thing to come out of Michigan. Well that, and my high school buddy’s lake house.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
"We want to create havoc and chaos under an umbrella of discipline, if that makes sense." - Rod Marinelli 7/16/09
I went up last summer
with my family. And I agree: the fudge was SO good! lol
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Jul 21, 2009 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions

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