NightLink: Jamie Dukes Gets It Wrong... Really Wrong
by Dane Noble on Jul 24, 2009 3:45 PM CDT
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Quick: Name the most dangerous non-playoff team from 2008 headed into the 2009 season. Okay, now stop being a homer, and who is the first non-Chicago team you think of? The 11-5 Patriots maybe? The Cowboys? The Saints?
I'm going to put my top-4 most dangerous non-playoff teams from 2008 together:
1- Patriots: Tom Brady should be healthy. They excel in all 3 phases of the game.
2- Bears: Need I explain this one?
3- Saints: Drew Brees is a winner, and they helped out their defense in the draft.
4- Cowboys: Every year, folks talk about their potential. They have the talent to win, despite their head coach.
So, there is a quickly put together list of who I think are the most dangerous non-playoff teams from 2008. It took me all of about 6 minutes to think about it, and type it out. Sure, there's not a lot of analysis, but is a fairly simple thing to do. Right?
After the jump, take a look at who Jamie Dukes thinks are the most dangerous foursome to look out for in 2009.
Cincinnati Bengals — WR Chad Ochocinco has something to prove, and so does his QB, Carson Palmer. There are a lot of whispers about the six-year veteran regaining his Pro Bowl form. On defense, Mike Zimmer has added some nice pieces in preparation for his second year as coordinator. And it goes without saying that coach Marvin Lewis’ job is on the line. His contract runs through 2010. That is something the frugal Bengals organization can swallow if things don’t go well this season.
Seattle Seahawks -– QB Matt Hasselbeck will have a monster season, Jim Mora has taken the helm and the defense should be improved. DE Patrick Kerney is at a pivotal point in his career and needs to step up and produce. WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh is a great addition, and I have the sneaking suspicion that WR Deion Branch finally will have the season that Seahawks fans have wanted. He can’t get hurt again, though.
Oakland Raiders –- They have a great chance to make some waves this season. However, much of that potential isn’t due to Oakland’s efforts but rather the implosion of the AFC West rival Denver Broncos and Kansas City Chiefs. Although the San Diego Chargers remain the class of the division, the Raiders should be able to sweep the Chiefs and Broncos. Everyone is under the illusion that the ball will be in the court of QB JaMarcus Russell, but nothing could be further from the truth. Oakland will run the football and play good defense. The Raiders will allow Russell to continue developing at a gingerly pace.
San Francisco 49ers -– Quarterback remains the biggest weakness for this team. Shaun Hill is a good custodian of the offense, but the 49ers need a real playmaker at the position to help take some of the pressure off RB Frank Gore. Too bad Eddie DeBartolo isn’t still with the organization because he would have the guts to sign Michael Vick once he is reinstated. The defense will be good, and while the offense will not be spectacular, it should be consistent.
Oh boy. When I first read the title of his article, I thought, "okay, this could be fun." But as I read through his list, I really had a hard time understanding what in the world he was doing. So, I re-read the title, "Most dangerous 2008 non-playoff teams for 2009", and re-read his criteria:
We all know that anything can happen in the NFL, and last season, the Arizona Cardinals and Atlanta Falcons were among the league’s surprise teams. With that in mind, here are the most dangerous 2008 non-playoff teams that will make noise in 2009, and some might even find their way into the postseason:
So, I did understand him correctly. He thinks the Bengals, Seahawks, Raiders, and 49ers are all more dangerous than any team on my list. And, two of his teams are from the NFC West! Seriously? The Bengals do have a chance to play spoilers this season... they should be better than 2008. They might even win a few games that they aren't supposed to. But does that make them one of the 4 most dangerous non-playoff teams?
Maybe Jamie Dukes had a deadline to meet for this story, or maybe he wanted to create page hits on his blog. Maybe he is mad at his bosses for something, and decided to put out some nonsense to get back at them. Whatever the case is, he missed badly on this one. He missed badly enough to almost make me sign up for an account and tell him about it in the comments section of his blog. But instead, I'll just post this here at Windy City Gridiron, and hope he somehow runs across this article.
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Jamie Dukes is an idiot
So this should be no surprise.
The only team on this list that has a chance to do anything this season are the Seahawks. As much as Housh sucks as a person, he should be a solid wideout for a healthy Hasselbeck to fling to.
As for the Bengals, I don’t even think they can play spoiler. As much as i hate them, the steelers aren’t going to lose a division game this year. And the Ravens make the bengals one dimensional(which they basically are already…Ced Ben still doesn’t have me convinced, and name another receiver they have who will make it through the season without a suspension?).
The raiders and niners are jokes and shall remain as such until they do something right.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
by EricEmpire on Jul 24, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Seattle still doesn't have much of a running game though
unless JJ actually starts producing again. Oh, and what’s the comment on Housh about? I’ve never heard anything bad about him.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay
by JerBear50 on Jul 25, 2009 3:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well..
He’s not a criminal, but he’s turned INTO Chad Johnson after leaving Cincy. Since leaving:
- He has guaranteed playoffs this year for the Seahawks.
- Proclaimed that both he and Hasselbeck will be going to the pro bowl this year.
- He’s boycotting the new Madden because he’s ONLY ranked 91 and not higher (personally, I think 91 is too high for him).
I dunno. I always liked him for being the ‘put my head down and go to work’ kinda guy, and its obvious he’s the opposite of that.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
by EricEmpire on Jul 25, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I heard about the Madden thing
and it’s kind of arrogant. The other stuff I hadn’t heard.. I always liked him for the same reasons you mentioned, so maybe it’s just him blowing off steam after getting out of Cinci. It shouldn’t matter to me since he doesn’t play for the Bears, but it’s nice to see someone succeed and manage to keep their mouth shut and ego in check regardless of where they play.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay
by JerBear50 on Jul 26, 2009 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed brother
this is the guy that said devin hester is the 5th best return man behind a ROOOKIE!
he is a terrible analyst
the bengals will leap frog the steelers and the ravens?!?!!?!?!
oaklad??? HA!!!(nuff said)
niners could surprise but hes terrible
by Bear Lovin 21 on Jul 25, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not true
He would have loved to have put Hester #1 but he couldn’t based on 2008.
It’s that simple. Hester did nothing in the return game in 2008 and going forward he’s much more likely to score as a WR than as a KR.
Thta’s why he put him as number 5.
by GeoMak on Jul 25, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's stupid is that...
he had DeSean Jackson a starting WR, Darren Sproles and Leon Washington guys trying to become starting RBs ahead off Hester, after complaining that Hester should focus only on kickoffs not trying to be a WR.
Also, Hester had a pretty good season as a returner last year for basically any other player, it was just that he didn’t live up to the amazingness he showed his first 2 seasons. All in all, it was one relatively disappointing season, he could return to form next year.
But think about this, Hester has got to have the biggest chip in the history of the world on his shoulder, all he has heard this offseason is how Cutler doesn’t have any weapons on offense, and now a guy who was only one year ago called the best return guy of all time is now considered the 5th best in the league currently.
by chase17 on Jul 26, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and "SIZZLE" says he's a #1!!!!
i’ll take it!!!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Jul 26, 2009 3:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hester, like you say
had a pretty good season for a normal returner in 2008. Compared to the Hester of 2006/2007, however, he vastly underachieved. Which is due in large part to trying to learn how to play WR, a postion that is extremely difficult to learn at the NFL level.
I expect a monster season from Devin Hester in 2009.
by GeoMak on Jul 26, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dangerous Teams?
Dangerous teams? That I don’t buy. Had he titled it potential surprise teams I could buy it. But even then I think the Raiders are a stretch.
by Bears Fan on Jul 24, 2009 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well one could consider the Bengals dangerous
In a felonious sort of way
by wennington4 on Jul 24, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
enjoy your engreenination.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 24, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get to post as often as I used to, but it was worth it
I have so many people to thank…
by wennington4 on Jul 26, 2009 4:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jamies Been Drinkin the Haterade lately on the Bears
I mean the Patriots are clearly the best Non Playoff team heading into this year. What are they only the second team ever to win 11 games and not make the playoffs (oh yea, without Tom Terrific)
Then Its a tie between the Bears and Packers for 2nd. Call it 2 A and 2 B
When the Bears make the greatest offseason move in NFL HISTORY and only miss the playoffs by one game means they have to be on this list. (Remember they had one more win than the Chargers who made the Playoffs and had the same amount of wins as the Eagles at 9 and also beat the Eagles to boot, yet they get in cause they tied the BENGALS!?!) Cutlers got to add at least two more wins to this team AT LEAST
The Packers had a solid draft for their new 3-4 D to go along with their prolific offensive attack so their on my list (Lots of close games lost)
And lastly the Saints are my fourth team on this list (Struggled between them and the Seahawks) but my rationale is that the Saints won 8 games in the Toughest division in Football last year in my opinion. They upgraded on their secondary Malcolm Jenkins, Darren Sharper. That to go along with Brees and their offense has me put them 4th on my list.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
by ANYTIME09 on Jul 24, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I wonder...
The Pats are a complete team; no doubt about it! But the big question; does Tom Terrififc take a year to rebound? Carson did. Peyton was different. Everyone seems to assume that Brady could never experience the problems of reconstructive knee surgery that “mere mortals” have to contend with! I’m not saying he WILL take a step back, but he could. The mental part seems to be tough on QBs, with all of the action taking place around the pocket. The TWO teams I would not be surprised to see much improvement from are the Houston Texans and the 49ers. But even they will need other teams to take a step back. NE will make the playoffs, but it still seems like the Steelers are the team to beat. My hope is that San Diego will suffer the Schottenheimer Curse until AJ Smith is run out of town (see Cleveland)!
Getcha Beernuts Ready!
by Fly1965 on Jul 26, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your 4 are clearly better than his
you should get a gig at the NFL Network
by wiltfongjr on Jul 24, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I probably wouldve been able to block better than him too
still waiting for them to call since i put my app in
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
by ANYTIME09 on Jul 24, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That show/network was so much better
when they still had Lincoln Kennedy and his ridiculously oversized chair. Eisen used to look like a toy sitting next to him.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay
by JerBear50 on Jul 25, 2009 3:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr. Dukes
Your forgot to put the Lions on your list. I mean they didn’t make the playoffs last year and Millen is no longer around so by that math they should be 15-1, NFC North Champs. Book it. Oh and Mr. Dukes please read my sig at the bottom, it applys here more than ever.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 24, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It sounds like he wrote the article to mean "surprise" team of 2009,
and then went through the article and replaced every instance of the word “surprise” with “dangerous.” An argument can be made that all the teams mentioned can be surprise contenders, right? But logic says that they are far from dangerous.
Now if we are talking about surprises, I agree most with the niners on that list. They had a great second half, they always play the cards well, and the rest of that division is awful. The D will be pretty dominant (they do have one of the best linebackers in the game). Now if they could only get some stability at the QB position. Wait a minute, those last two sentences sound familiar… :-) Really though, Singletary will refuse to have a losing season.
by ChiLobo#23 on Jul 24, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
refuse to lose
is a catchy slogan but it doesn’t translate to wins in the NFL. You’ve got theseahawks, rams, and cards in the niners division, and all 3 are superior to Samurai Mikes team. Don’t get me wrong, I love the guy and his pants-dropping ways, I just don’t see frank gore and a rookie wideout making…..well i was gonna say shaun hill, but which qb are they starting again? Can’t play that “who is our QB?” game and expect to go far in the win column.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
by EricEmpire on Jul 24, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see where you are coming from
And I took a shortcut. Instead of listing all the reasons I see the niners doing well, I said “Singletary refuses to lose.” But I do think they have the best shot to make the playoffs of the non-Arizona crowd. Even though we have our shiny new QB, we should know better than anybody that you don’t need a great QB to make the playoffs, especially if Warner isn’t so lucky this year and has a bad concussion or two. The reality is that they potentially have the best D in that division. Add that to the fact that they went 5-2 the last 7 weeks of the season, and they look pretty promising. Again, as a SURPRISE contender. Not saying dangerous.
by ChiLobo#23 on Jul 24, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Their D should be one of the better in the league. Very good LB’s Manny Lawson, Takeo Spikes, Ahmad Brooks and lead by Patrick Willis. Stout!
+ Solid & Crafty DB’s as well w/ Dre’ Bly, Walt Harris and lead by Nate Clements.
I’m not jumping on the Seattle band wagon and think they’ve received WAY too much love from the media this off-season. If Hasselbeck stays healthy, I may be eating my words. Doubt it though.
As for the Rams, umm… no. It’s rare that a team rebuilding on both sides of the ball, with a new coach, win their division. I don’t think they will win many games, but will keep’em close.
Cardinals on paper should stroll thru the division. The Super Bowl hangover is their biggest obstacle, IMO. However, don’t underestimate how big that obstacle can be. If you need some reference’s, just look at the 02’ Rams, 03’ Raiders, 04’ Panthers, 05 Eagles and sadly, the 07 Bears.
So yes, I wouldn’t be surprised, if the Niner’s were a surprise.
by rdent4hof on Jul 25, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Singletary, but if you really look at the Niners...
First off, over the last 4 seasons, they are 2-6 against the Cards.
They did go 5-3 in the second half of the season last year, but look at who they beat. Their wins came against ther Rams (twice), the Bills, the Jets, and the Redskins.
The Bills were spinning out of control at the end of the season, losing 7 of their last 10 games, the Jets lost 4 of their last 5, and the Redskins lost 6 of their last 8.
Their defense should be better, but not enough to make them dangerous. Last year they were 13th in the league against the run, and 20th versus the pass. Can Singletary improve that? Probably… but they still have a long way to go before they are dangerous.
LSU Tigers Baseball... NCAA National Champions- 2009.
by Dane Noble on Jul 24, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, I was referring to SURPRISE, not dangerous.
I agree with the poster that there are way more dangerous teams out there than the ones Dukes listed. I was talking about surprise teams. I respectfully disagree with you Geauxbears. You really can’t say of the niners, “yeah, they went 5-3, BUT they played bad teams…” That was the point I was making. They beat the teams in front of them at the end of the year. I agree with you that they don’t have the pieces to be serious or “dangerous” contenders, but of 4 teams listed by Dukes, they have the best potential to be surprise contenders given the state of their division and the strength of their defense. And Gore. And a new red zone threat in Crabtree. And the physical specimen that is their tight end.
by ChiLobo#23 on Jul 24, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That TE of theirs... it is a make or break season for him.
Davis was definitely stifled being a TE in a Mike Martz system, but he should be a lot more useful this year.
LSU Tigers Baseball... NCAA National Champions- 2009.
by Dane Noble on Jul 24, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, I know VD is a chronic underachiever,
But have you seen him? HE looks like the predator with his dreads! lol
by ChiLobo#23 on Jul 24, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the regular season
Warner and the Cardinals, in 2007 & 2008 combined, beat exactly three teams with a winning percentage.
And actually, one of those teams (the Dolphins in week two last season) entered their game against the Cardinals on a 1-16 streak.
The Cardinals lost 5 out of their 6 games against playoff teams in 2008 by an average of 20 points.
The one playoff team they beat was, again, the 0-2 Dolphins (who entered the game having lost 16 out of the last 17 games).
Who teams beat is not a great argument.
In the 2007/2008 REGULAR season, Shaun Hill actually has a higher winning percentage (20%) than does Kurt Warner (11%) against teams with winning records.
You are pretty much correct in your assessment of the Mike Singletary led 49ers ChiLobo#23.
by GeoMak on Jul 24, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A not so subtle observation...
Your themes:
- The Cardinals (I know you like Whisenhunt, and live in Arizona)
- Mike Singletary
- The “old Bears” teams.
The only time you ever pipe up about the Bears, who I think is your favorite team, is when you compare Lovie Smith to other coaches.
Don’t get me wrong, you read a whole hell of a lot more than I do, and probably more than anyone I know, when it comes to your perspective on coaching. But honestly, could you talk more about the current Bears? You beat the Cardinals subject into the ground, you wax poetic about the Cardinals and Singletary until it falls on numb ears… but you really don’t talk about much else.
I realize that your perspective comes with plenty of intelligence, and it is hard to argue with your facts (where or not you cherry-pick them is debatable)… but how about a challenge to you:
Change the subject. Please. Maybe I am just tired at the end of a long week, and I’m sure there are plenty of new members that haven’y gotten all of your insights to the point that others have… but seriously, try to change the subject.
LSU Tigers Baseball... NCAA National Champions- 2009.
by Dane Noble on Jul 24, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You and ChiLobo
were debating the merits of the 49ers and you used the ‘they really didn’t beat anybody’ argument against the 49ers.
While technically valid, it’s kind of meaningless, IMO.
by GeoMak on Jul 24, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don' t like Whisenhunt - He's Overrated
Beyond that,
I spent hours yesterday refuting SackMan’s ridiculous (and I do mean ridiculous) assertion that the 2006 Chicago Bears were ‘severely offensively challenged.’
Totally baseless. I brought up many, many points of reference to show that how absurd that comment was.
by GeoMak on Jul 24, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've been told this before...
Your like a dog on a bone sir. I appreciate all you do and your passion!
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 24, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not THE ONLY time
The only time you ever pipe up about the Bears, who I think is your favorite team, is when you compare Lovie Smith to other coaches.
Mention the McMahon in a negative light and wait for the bulldog to attack.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
by Just Dave on Jul 24, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will never pull for another team unless it serves to help the bears
but I have alot of love for Singletary
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
by chi-town on Jul 25, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I WANT WINNERS!
I told him he’d be better off taking a shower…
If you want to crown em...
by JohnnyTruant on Jul 26, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the same thing.
…that he was trying to come up with a list of dark horse teams and kinda didn’t know how to write it up so he kept saying “dangerous”.
Maybe to Jamie Dukes, surprises ARE dangerous.
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
by juperee on Jul 25, 2009 6:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Bengals could be a big surprise this season.
I think they’ve put together a good group for this season. Palmer’s healthy, the D seems to have been revamped with some good young talent at LB and some D line help, and Ocho, Coles, and Chris Henry could be a winning combo.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jul 24, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's not forget the majesty of Benson!
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jul 24, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not just Benson
they picked up Brian Leonard and Roy williams as well. I do believe the Bengals will dominate in ’09, but it all depends on Palmers health.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 24, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe i could understand
putting the texans up there, but the seahawks? matt hasselbeck was never any good
by jubaby on Jul 24, 2009 7:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to disagree with you there.
About Hasselbeck that is. He is definitely a good QB.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jul 24, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How's about dem cowboys.
I know they underacheived last season, But between the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, and Skins Dallas comes out on top. The novelty that is the Giants has ended it’s run.
by Big Ike on Jul 24, 2009 11:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm stepping out
to say it will be the Chiefs, Packers, , Jaguars, Redskins????. Yes i’ve been drinking.
There are only three types of people; makers, takers, and fakers. Which one are you???
by gaingrene on Jul 24, 2009 11:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cutler is the only explaining of why this team is a potential sleeper next season
GO BULLS
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 25, 2009 12:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
usually
when a team upgrades greatly it’s most historically weakest position it’s a big deal.
But we’ve completely overhauled the Oline, the Dline (coach and players), and we’re going balls to the walls this season, expect it.
If you want to crown em...
by JohnnyTruant on Jul 26, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess I could see those teams being better this year(on paper), but I get what you are saying…they are by no stretch of the imagination the most dangerous non playoff teams of 2008 coming into 2009..Though I would toss in the Seahawks at #5…IF hasselbeck can stay healthy.
by Pretender85 on Jul 25, 2009 12:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
seahawks
even though they have a new head coach, they are in a weak division. they could be a surprise team but outside their div they will falter.
by stepeo on Jul 25, 2009 1:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dukes did miss BADLY on this list.
Mission failed, Jamie Dukes!!!
by rdent4hof on Jul 25, 2009 8:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 25, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something Wolf, right?
Awesome arcade game, if I’m thinking of the right one.
by rdent4hof on Jul 25, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Operation Thunderbolt
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 25, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's right!
It was called “Operation Wolf” at my arcade. I’m confident it’s the same game.
First person shooter with an uzi? Maybe it was “Operation Thunderbolt” on a console?
by rdent4hof on Jul 25, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won't lie. I had to look it up. Could be the same game.
I never played this one in the arcarde, but then again I was always playing Afterburner.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 25, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so good
i played afterburner on my sega master system, not the arcade, but it was still the cats pajamas.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
by EricEmpire on Jul 25, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only got to play in the Arcade
Just a great game, no matter what you played it on.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 25, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More info
Operation Thunderbolt was the sequel to Operation Wolf so technically you are right.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 25, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy sh*t, operation thunderbolt
Is Clint Hurdle fired yet? YES
Is John Paxson fired yet?
Is Ralph Friedgen fired yet?
Is Vinny Del Negro fired yet?
Is Dan O' Dowd fired yet?
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
by ES46NE10 on Jul 25, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You noticed that to. :)
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 25, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would say the Bengals
are the only team on his list that seems legit. I think they will be better, but I need to see them do well to believe it for real. They play in too hard a division to say they will turn it around. The Seahawks are next on the list but they too have a lot to improve on. Hasselbeck needs to be healthy and their running game isn’t stellar. I would have GBs list and then put Bengals and Seahawks at 5 and 6.
The 49ers, can improve only if they start former Ball State QB Nate Davis. Duh. He’s the greatest.
by GallopingGhost on Jul 25, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
word on the street
is that Nate Davis can’t even read, in fact he’s retarded. When asked what he wanted to be when he grew up, he drew a caterpillar
If you want to crown em...
by JohnnyTruant on Jul 26, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Uh OH
You’re going to get it from the Ball State crew on here for that one. tsk tsk. :)
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 26, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I shouldn't encourage you...
and respond, I will. He has a learning disability. He’s not illiterate or retarded. It just takes him longer to learn things. It’s estimated that about 15-20% of the US population have learning disabilities. So it’s not a rare occurrence.
P.S. You did a nice job with your caterpillar – I’ll have to show my first graders how you were able to stay in the lines! ;)
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by HoneyBear on Jul 26, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
P.S. You did a nice job with your caterpillar – I’ll have to show my first graders how you were able to stay in the lines! ;)
I’ll admit it, that made me guffaw :-D
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
by Spongie on Jul 27, 2009 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jamie Dukes surprise 4 needs... work
Perhaps he felt it was unfair to include the Patriots, because they play in a terrible division and are essentially assured of a playoff spot and a bye because of said terrible division. I’m definitely hoping someone takes out Brady’s other ACL during week 1 though – has any team in ANY sport been the Vegas favorite to win every title in a four year span without, you know, actually winning that title? Then again, if someone were to take out Brady’s ACL, they might win the division anyway. It’s that bad. I’m not buying Mark Sanchez, and I expect the Dolphins to be a 6 – 10 wonderteam. The Bills are coached by Dick Jauron. Enough said.
The Raiders have a shot, just because they get 4 games against Denver’s defense (And of course they have DHB, the Terpacabra) and Kansas City’s Scott Mitchell Experiment. If San Diego decides to start out 4 – 8 again, it could be Oakland’s year.
Cincinnati will suffer from the loss of Housh, even though everyone here seems to hate him. Chad Ochocinco from 2005 isn’t going to magically return, and neither is Palmer. That division might turn out to be the best in the NFL this year if Palmer does return to form, and the Browns don’t fall to their 5th string QB the last six weeks of the season. I think all four teams could conceivably finish 8 – 8 (or higher in the case of Pittsburgh, of course)
I like Seattle. Perhaps not to make the playoffs, but I think they can contend for a wild card. However, if Kurt Warner gets hurt, the Seahawks I think are the favorites to take the division. They’re not 4 – 12 bad as we saw last year. The Niners have to beat someone good, but I’ll be pulling for them as long as the Shaun Hill ./ Samurai Mike combo is in effect out there.
As for your surprise teams, Geauxbears, I’m already going on the assumption we’re excluding the Patriots, because they won’t surprise anyone.
The Saints will win the always unpredictable NFC South. I’m fully on that bandwagon, at least until ESPN tells us how it’s saving New Orleans, much like how Super Bowl XL and the 2009 Final Four saved Detroit.
The Bears I think will be one of the two wild cards, though a division title wouldn’t surprise me IF the defense plays halfway between 2006 and 2007 levels OR Green Bay isn’t the 10 – 6 team I think they are.
The Cowboys don’t have a good quarterback, despite what that network in Bristol wants you to think, or a big-time receiver anymore. They’ve got Jason Witten, but that’s not going to be enough. The defense will keep them in games, but they’ll be a distant 3rd behind Philadelphia and the G-Men.
That said: 4 teams excluding the Patriots who missed the playoffs in 2008 but will return in 2009
Saints – NFC South Champions
Packers – NFC North Champions
Bears – NFC Wild Card (and of course, Super Bowl XLIV champion :)
Jaguars – AFC Wild Card – Maybe this year half of their offensive line won’t get shot.
The AFC 6 seed, I think, is completely wide-open. Pittsburgh, the Patriots, the Colts, Titans and Chargers will get in most assuredly. The 6th spot will come from any one of the Dolphins, Browns, Ravens, Jaguars, Texans, or Raiders – or Bengals, if Cincinnati fires Marvin Lewis before they’re too far out of it.
Is Clint Hurdle fired yet? YES
Is John Paxson fired yet?
Is Ralph Friedgen fired yet?
Is Vinny Del Negro fired yet?
Is Dan O' Dowd fired yet?
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
by ES46NE10 on Jul 25, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear Lord!
I’m definitely hoping someone takes out Brady’s other ACL during week 1 though
This is the point where I stopped reading you post. Wishing injury on someone, really?!? Ron Burgandy has something to say to you…
- Smudgers
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by smudgers on Jul 25, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wreck!
Because if Ron Burgundy says it, it has to be true.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 25, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's only one Duke
Nobody F**ks with the Duke!
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 25, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
WRECK!!!!
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 25, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dukes is a total moron
The Bears are going to be a legitimate NFC contender this year and we all know the Pats are going to bring it again this year.
Pats / Bears / Saints / Packers (I guess the Cowboys would be a close 5th)
NFC North is going to be a really legit division this year.
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on Jul 26, 2009 1:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
List is garbage
The only team he’s got right is the Seadogs. Not having Brady and the Pats on there destroys his credibility. The Saints and the Bears should be in there as well, but less likely for them to make the playoffs.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
by propheteer on Jul 26, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jamie Dukes never fails to amazes me lol
What a garbage list
Bengals- There defense is going to hold their Offense back I see a 7-9 or 8-8 season.
Seahawks- I agree with him there
Raiders- I honestly see them having a hard time with K.C. for the second seed in that division.
Niners- Not enough on offense in my opinion to scare Seattle and Arizona in that division.
Here’s mines
Patriots- Tom Brady is back and they added new weapons to a already elite offensive team. They Defense has always been good so there’s not much to worry about on that side of the ball (maybe at the saftey position with the loss of Harrison).
Texans- Through the years have slowly become a very good football team. If Schaub stays healthy they one of the dangerous offenses in the league. Their Defense is nothing to sneeze at with Mario Williams Demco Ryans Amobi Okoye Dunta Robinson and new additions Brian Cushing and Conor Barwin. I could see them going 10-6 this season as a wildcard.
Bears- We wasn’t that bad of a team last year and went 9-7 with a average QB. Jay Cutler could have won us some of those close games last season specifically the Panters and Bucs game. Inexperience defensive coaches replaced with experience defensive coaches so I expect the defense to be at least top 10.
Packers- If they new 3-4 defense is at least average they will be a dangerous team to deal with. Aaron Rodgers is a good QB and they have so many weapons in the passing game with Jennings/Driver/Jones/Martin/Nelson.
by NiqueBears on Jul 26, 2009 8:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
is jamie dukes ever right?
GO BULLS
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 26, 2009 11:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Jul 27, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Late to the party, as usual...
But I read all (or most) of the comments and felt compelled to point out:
Did Dukes say on at least two different occasions since the Bears got Cutler/Pace that he now thinks they’re legit SB contenders?
It was earlier in the off-season, but as an avid NFLN watcher, I KNOW he said it…
Did he change his mind? Have a deadline to meet and needed “new” material?
I’m no Dukes apologist…I just wanted to put that out there. This list is still nonsense, though…
Except the Bengals, for the following reasons:
Ravens historical pattern is to follow a good season with an awful one, year after year. Age/injury, lost focus, bad luck, whatever—it always seems to happen. Plus they may be the only other team besides us (and the Giants?) with less at the WR position (on paper anyway).
Pitt will have the proverbial bullseye on their back, a tough schedule, and distractions (Ben’s civil “issues”), and the hangover effect.
Browns will be mired in QB issues, mediocrity.
Bengals should have healthy Carson, great WR corps (Coles, Chad, Henry), defensive upgrades, etc etc.
If that Hard Knocks nonsense isn’t too big of a distraction, and assuming Benson gets benched, they may actually be dangerous.
by Amishbear on Jul 28, 2009 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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