The 10 Most Important Bears in 2009 - #8
In this ongoing series, I'll look at which Bears I think will need to contribute the most in 2009 for them to have a successful season. Some things I thought about when compiling this list were: what potential impact they may have, how much the team will look to the individual for guidance or leadership, how badly the team would suffer if they lost the player to injury, and other intangible attributes. Hopefully this series will spark some good off-season Bears discussion!
#8 Rod Marinelli - Defensive Line Coach
I'm of the opinion that the coaches need to put the players in the best possible positions, but ultimately it's on the players to make plays. However, with the way the entire organization is pointing to Rod Marinelli as the greatest D-Line coach in the game today, the D-Line better step up and make an impact. If they don't you can be sure topic #1 on the blogs, the message boards, the newspapers, and on sports radio will be Marinelli's ineffectiveness.
In particular I'm looking for sacks from the defensive ends. Adewale Ogunleye has to find more consistency, Alex Brown needs to finally reach his potential, Mark Anderson has to find his rookie year form, and Israel Idonije has to show his new contract was money well spent. The ends will need to rush the passer, play stout against the run, hold the edge and contain, and rush the passer... did I say 'rush the passer' twice?
Rookie DT Jarron Gilbert, if Marinelli is the guru everyone says he is, should find some meaningful playing time. His development, while not critical to the '09 season, is important to ensure the freshness of the defensive tackles. The more quality players you have in the DT rotation just keeps the big fellas fresh (and hopefully healthy) for the entire season.
If the defensive line is effective the entire defense will fall into place; that's the main philosophy of what the Bears do, and the main reason the Bears defense has fallen down the last couple years.
The List so far:
#10 - Nathan Vasher - Cornerback
#9 - Kevin Payne - Strong Safety
#8 - Rod Marinelli - Defensive Coordinator
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You know, I agree 100% with your assessment.
I think that Marinelli has higher expectations than any other coach on the team. If he can get top-notch performance out of our DLine, we should be well on our way to making a solid case that we are an elite team in the NFC.
Would rank Rod in the top-5 :)
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by Dane Noble on Jul 7, 2009 11:11 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Top 5 huh...
after the series is done I’d love to see everyones top 10! That should get some good debates going!
Putting a coach on this list was tough for me, as I truely believe it’s up to the players to make something happen… but Marinelli had to be included with the light the team is placing him in…
Stay tuned to see if another coach makes the list!!!
by wiltfongjr on Jul 7, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
Attitude is important on the D-Line. As I’ve said before, Wale and Anderson are in contract years. I’m hoping that that fact, combined with Marinelli’s passion for teaching and technique, will enable them to become the dominant crew that will take some of the heat off of the secondary! Health will be the biggest issue.
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by Fly1965 on Jul 8, 2009 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I AM IRONMAN.
Has he lost his mind,
Can he see or is he blind?
Can he walk at all,
Or if he moves will he fall?
Oh wait, I thought this was the new photo caption contest…
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 7, 2009 11:41 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL.
I’m wating to hear back from GG for the next photo. The contest closed right around the holiday, so I didn’t want to move on without him, just in case he was travelling. We’ll give him another day or so…
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by Dane Noble on Jul 7, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Killer song and by the way.
Haven’t been on here in a sec, but I browsed the last caption contest and would have rec’d the t bag comment if it would’ve let me. F’n funny. Day late..dollar short.
Hear about the blind hooker, you gotta hand it to her.
Rex Grossman has to be a test-tube baby, cause he's not worth a f---!!!
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jul 7, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Marinelli does succeed
It will definitely be 1 and done with him as our d-line coach. Will another team swoop in and steal him for their head coach or d-coordinator? He’s an assistant head coach in title so the Bears will have to give permission to other teams to interview for coordinator positions (but not for head coach positions). Is this Babich’s last year as “d-c” and Marinelli gets promoted to d-coordinator? Wow, did I jump the gun. I hope the d-line kicks a$$ this year.
by MuleTrain on Jul 7, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lay off the crack, buddy
Marinelli will never be a head coach ever again. hiring a head coach of a team that went 0-16 is organizational suicide.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 7, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to consider though...
that a lot of that 0-16 season goes on Matt Millen’s shoulders. Marinelli was not in a position to succeeed… to say he will never again be a HC might be a bit extreme.
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by Dane Noble on Jul 7, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh really?
call me when George Seifert and Cam Cameron get another gig. Sorry, But I won’t solely place those losses on millen. Marinelli’s entire coaching staff was a wreck.
Marinelli was not in a position to succeeed…
If I recall correctly, Detroit started out 6-2 in 2007, then went 1-7 the rest of the season. looked like he was in a pretty good position to me.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 7, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say solely place those losses on Millen.
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by Dane Noble on Jul 7, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry. but I still wouldn't say most of the Fault is on Millen either.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jul 7, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at his draft classes!
MIllen was a terrible GM… No GM hits 100% of the time, but MIllen was just plain bad at building a team. If I had to put a number on it I’d give it 75-25 to the fault of Millen
by wiltfongjr on Jul 7, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he sucked at the draft but...
Look at their QB and the lack of defense.
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by Ditkavsworld on Jul 7, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Putting 2 and 2 together...
Maybe he coulda drafted differently to address those things? Just sayin’.
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by Dane Noble on Jul 7, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he could've but I like to think
that the Lions are doomed to football purgutory. It’s a dream, now if I could just find a way to get the Pack and Queens in there I’d be all set.
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by Ditkavsworld on Jul 7, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
D-coordinator is where he would go next (here or elsewhere)
He won’t be a head coach until he succeeds as a d-coordinator for a few years imo. I did say I was jumping the gun, no crack here, just speculation.
by MuleTrain on Jul 7, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t see a team wanting him as a Head Coach yet… he’ll need an extended run of success as a position coach before he gets any offers… and he might not want to go anywhere
by wiltfongjr on Jul 7, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like Tommy Harris will be the lipnus test for Marinelli's success
But, that might translate into more sacks from the ends—which is to say the interior defense will garnish enough attention for the exterior to get the sacks. If Marinelli really does enhance our line, Tommy will be back at All-Pro form (assuming he’s healthy).
by EvilKaramazov on Jul 7, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it's litmus...
and tommie harris. not trying to criticize, just want to help you out.
by genetic on Jul 8, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and "garner" rather than "garnish"
Ditto.
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by Spongie on Jul 8, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like garnish. Improves my meal.
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by Just Dave on Jul 8, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The front 7 will be improved
and motivated – especially the d-line where Harris, Brown, and Wale are in contract years (Harris is signed but he will be cut after 2009 unless he returns to All Pro form). My concern is the db’s in general and the safties in particular. If the defense is forced to blitz anywhere near as much as last year (and our LB’s are NOT good blitzers) the Bears are in big trouble. OTOH if Martinelli can rotate 6 or 7 guys into the front four and always have fresh , effective pass rushers the defense could get back to 2006 form.
by Duck99 on Jul 7, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You may remember Wilt, I was half-hearted about the Marinelli addition.
I worried that he might be damaged goods, psychologivcally speaking. Have the stink of losing on him.
I railed about Lovie’s BFF cronyism tendencies.
But, I think I have seen the light: I understand that Sgt. Rod was in DETROIT, where Christ himself could probably don the headset and go under .500, even with the Virgin Mary cheerleading on the sidelines.
Rod was in large part a victim of the Millen aftermath in particluar, and the Detroit losers-milieu in general.
On top of that, the Lions were actually more competeitive last year than 0-16 might suggest. They hung in until the end in MOST games (um, forget Thanksgiving), even giving the Vikes a run for their money a couple games.
On top of that, being a DETAIL guy (as all the players say) might mean that Rod isn’t great with the BIG picture, with running a whole. He’s a SPECIALIST.
Last year, he was probably focusing on the Equipment Manager’s Asistant’s methodology in distributing shoelaces for Away games or some such nonsense…
Asking Rod to head coach would be like asking an expert sous-chef to run a chain of restaurants. Instead, let the man do what he’s best at.
So now, I do believe Rod is a master motivator, an excellent teacher (patient, detail-oriented), and I believe he is going to get the MOST out of our line, that he will maximize their potential (and who can deny that line has been playing UNDER its potential for the past 2 years??!?)
Players, it seems, have gone out of their way so far this off-season to lavish praise on Rod’s style and instruction. He SEEMS to be everything Lovie says he is.
I have come to have faith in Sgt. Rod.
In fact, I believe Rod may end up being the BEST off-season acquisition the Bears made this year!!
(Well, he and the obvious one, of course).
I agree that you could easily make a case for Rod being in the top 5 in this list, too. That kine has un-tapped, un-reached potential. If Rod can get it out them, look out League—may God have mercy on your souls, ’cause the Bears will be back to the forcity and dominance we know and love them for.
Can’t wait for the freakin’ season…Bear Down.
by Amishbear on Jul 7, 2009 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I remember...
but there is so much Marinelli love coming from Halas Hall, he just has to be successful!
by wiltfongjr on Jul 7, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Rod IS an expert sous-chef. Bonus for the training camp cooking staff.
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by Just Dave on Jul 8, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else think this pic of marinelli would be a great caption contest?
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by chibullsfan03 on Jul 7, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
GG got back in touch with me this morning, and said that he liked it too.
Depending on if he comes up with something else, we might just go with that one!
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by Dane Noble on Jul 7, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it
but that really doesn’t mean anything. I don’t know why even wrote that.
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by Ditkavsworld on Jul 7, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
New nick name
Sgt Cone-Arms
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Potential
Alex Brown needs to finally reach his potential
I think AB has already reached his potential; he is what he is, a solid all-around DE.
Anderson, Harrison, and Gilbert are the guys who need Marinelli’s teaching the most.
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by propheteer on Jul 7, 2009 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Brown could get double digit sacks… he has had a few monster games in his career, and was a Pro Bowl alternate a couple times… with the “master” Marinelli pushing him, I think he could have a real good season
by wiltfongjr on Jul 7, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's probably his ceiling
Hopefully you’re right, cause everyone seems to agree that the defensive line is the “key” to the season.
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by propheteer on Jul 7, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
we don’t need Marinelli to get people playing over their heads… we just need everyone playing as well as they can.
I do believe the d-line is the key, or as much a key as 1 unit can be on a football team. :-P
But its all going to start there on defense. And we all know, in Chicago… defense is what matters. :-)
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Consistent pressure is more important than just sacks
It is kind of an overrated stat cause the pressure of hurrys, hits, and knockdowns make opposing QBs make mistakes.
Yep, get off the bus running and tough gritty defense. :)
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by propheteer on Jul 7, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree completely
Look! It happened again. :-P
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by Allie on Jul 8, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I like sacks very, very much (said in an inconspicuous voice).
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by propheteer on Jul 8, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brilliant.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
by Just Dave on Jul 8, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm with you too
those pressures can cause INT’s, which our D has shown that they know how to run back. especially if a certain number 4 is back in the division. man, i can’t wait. he’s really going to cement his position in the record books, no one will ever be able to top that interception mark.
by genetic on Jul 8, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
although I don’t think A. Brown gets the love he deserves. He has been consistent as all hell. He’s super athletic and he has made numerous great plays, even if the “sack” stats don’t show it. Maybe its just me but I think he’s one of the more underrated players on the team.
Bear Down, Chicago Bears!
by topdoggkyle on Jul 7, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with you 100%
I think Brown’s numbers are only held down by the lack of play in the middle. If Harris and company get back to where they should be, I think he’s one of the better DE’s in the NFC.
by BearFan611 on Jul 7, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hadn't considered any of the coaches...
If I could’ve picked one player on the line who needs to step up his game this year, it’s obviously Tommy Harris. But if you’re considering coaches who need to motivate and and get the most out of players, then Marinelli is the key to the success of the defense.
by JimmyMack on Jul 7, 2009 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tommie Harris, huh...
stay tuned to see if he makes the top ten!
by wiltfongjr on Jul 7, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess
is that he’s #1
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by ChiTown2ShineIn'09 on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still say Lovie as D-coordinator is the most important
if he doesn’t get that side of the ball turned around, it’s probably a .500 season at best for us and that will get him and the rest of his staff fired. Everyone talks about Denver’s defense being the reason that Cutler couldn’t give them a winning record and our defense the last few years is not a lot better than the Bronco’s. Lovie needs to take the pressure off of his QB and his offense.
by BearFan611 on Jul 7, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm...
Lovie as D-Coordinator more important…
you’ll have to wait and see the remainder of my top 10…
Thursday @ 11am for #7!
by wiltfongjr on Jul 7, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
say what?
i’m not a lovie fan, but how do you figure it’s a .500 season if the D is not ‘turned around’? the bears clearly have a better team than last year when they finished at 9-7 and they could have won two more easily if lovie didn’t forget that he was the head coach in the second half of games. maybe he’ll stay involved this year since he has responsibility for ther D.
and it’s the O that needs to take the pressure off of the D.
by genetic on Jul 8, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do we know the team is better on the Defensive side of the ball?
The safety position is still up in the air, the corner position is resting on Vasher or whomever takes his place, and the D-line have the same personnel except for a couple of rookies. In my opinion, the defense was more responsible for losses last year to Tampa, Atlanta, and Houston so I still maintain that if the Defense isn’t turned around we can’t expect Cutler to turn us into a 10-6 or 11-5 team by himself, that’s the reason everyone used for the .500 record in Denver.
by BearFan611 on Jul 8, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not having to run back on after three downs and a punt should help.
"They tried to take out the quarterback, and if they managed that, they tried to take out the backup." - Bears SB20 TE Emery Moorehead, on the mentality of *that* defense
by Spongie on Jul 8, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rod Marinelli
is going to beat you with his blue crayon arms! ARRRRRGH!
Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
by junkhorse on Jul 7, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ogunleye
has adewale had the same number of sacks in a season for the bears as he had for a miami season when he had tayler as a teamate
by stepeo on Jul 7, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Or
You could have done it for him.
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by Dane Noble on Jul 7, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
Well played sir.
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by Ditkavsworld on Jul 7, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post.
So far, so good. I think putting Marinelli at 8 is a good call. Eventhough he is not a player, I think without a doubt he is very important to us this year.
Hear about the blind hooker, you gotta hand it to her.
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by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jul 7, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rod Marinelli Fever run amok
Good grief. He’s a COACH ladies and gentleman, not Reggie White joining the Bears in his prime.
- Alex Brown is what he is, a good serviceable d-lineman.
- Adewale Ogunleye is an average at best end, period.
- Mark Anderson is an undersized one year wonder, period.
- Israel Idonije is a serviceable utility player able to play several positions.
- Anthony Adams is a serviceable rotation player at tackle.
- Jarron Gilbert is a 3rd round pick trying to make the transition to the NFL as a rookie.
- Henry Melton is a 4th round pick trying to make the transition to the NFL as a rookie.
- Marcus Harrison is a 2nd year player with a nice skills inventory who figures into the tackle rotation.
- and finally Tommie Harris is an enigmatic player who lost his drive just as soon as he signed a fat contract and found religion in his life.
Sure, Marinelli will have a positive impact on the line scheme. And sure, he should help the development of Harrison, Gilbert and Melton. But expecting him to be some sort of mystical savior is batsh*t. Some of you people really need to get a grip on your projections for this unit.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
by BLou on Jul 7, 2009 10:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm just going to guess here...
but based on that assessment of the DLine (which I don’t necessarily agree with), you would grade our DLine as a 6 out of 10?
If so… does that mean that Marinelli will by default bump that score up to a 7.5 or 8 out of 10?
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by Dane Noble on Jul 7, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time will tell...
I guess we’ll have to wait and see if all the players you mentioned are what you thought they were, or is Rod can push them to another level
great feedback!
by wiltfongjr on Jul 7, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you have him on The List!
No doubt he will be directly related to our success or lack thereof.
by rdent4hof on Jul 8, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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