A Closer Look at the Bears QB - No.. not That One.. the other one...
I think we can all agree that, outside of playing in the 4th quarter with the Bears up by 4 touchdowns, none of us want to see much of Caleb Hanie this year. However, there has been quite a bit of trepidation about what would happen if He Who Need Not Be Named ever was injured. Many of us keyboard prognosticators have openly speculated about the wisdom of not acquiring a veteran backup QB, fueled by the worry that Caleb Hanie and (God help us) Basenez are somewhere between a division III college redshirt freshman and a practice squad-caliber signal caller.
Though all of us are going to see, along with our first sip of real football in too long, a lot of Caleb Hanie live in a matter of days, I thought it'd be fun to expand a little on our #2 backup, which you can read more about in a Nice Article in the Daily Herald that was included in the most recent edition of the Bears Den. I saw him a few times when I lived in Fort Collins (home of Colorado State University), and hope this discussion will help, at least kill time, if not offer some hope, before cleat hits pigskin to start the game with Buffalo this weekend.
After coming in as an undrafted free agent last year and within a year solidifying himself as the #2 QB behind one of the most legitimate QB talents of the past decade, Hanie has earned his way to a crossroads of his career. From the Herald Article above:
(Last Preseason), Hanie completed 29 of 49 passes for 321 yards, 3 touchdowns and 2 interceptions for a passer rating of 82.1. But, since he was active for only one regular-season game last year and never took a snap, the preseason remains the most crucial time of year for the 6-foot-2, 225-pounder. His evaluation begins at 6 p.m. Saturday, the preseason opener against the Bills in Buffalo
My honest assessment of Caleb Hanie is that he has the potential (though admittedly still unproven) of being our Matt Cassel, flying under the radar but possibly better than anyone ever realized. For those of you who like raw skills and scouting reports, good luck finding a consistent answer. Mel Kiper originally ranked him right up with Flacco as one of a dozen QB's with the tools to start in the NFL in his career, while most others (as was borne out in the draft) didn't even have him as draftable. For those of you who haven't been to Fort Collins, it is unbelievably windy there, and despite having a no-name supporting cast there and verifiably awful pass protection, here are his numbers from his last two years in college:
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | PASS EFF. |
| 2006 | 209 | 342 | 2427 | 61.1 | 7.10 | 83 | 11 | 12 | 37 | 124.31 |
| 2007 | 188 | 292 | 2455 | 64.4 | 8.41 | 83 | 18 | 15 | 35 | 145.08 |
The guy's accuracy is notable, and included 70%+ completion games of 220 and 300 yards vs Colorado and California respectively even while getting sacked 8 times in those two games. I've noticed he has a fairly slow release, can get overconfident in some of his throws, and gets sacked a lot because of lack of mobility on the negative side. However, his arm strength looks good, accuracy very good, and he plays with confidence and a chip on his shoulder. I personally will be watching him with a lot of interest in the pre-season to see how well he steps up to the new level of competition he will be playing against this year.
I find it very interesting that the Bears haven't gone out and gotten a veteran QB. Though I am not a fan of putting quarterbacks on the squad to learn our offense, who can then go out and play for the Vikings in a couple of years later, I think that their belief in Hanie's skills is another key reason they haven't seen a need to shore up the position. Either way, my question for discussion is, do they have a justifiable faith in Hanie?
While your preparing your takes on this, here's some video candy:
Lots of footage from 2008 preseason (and lots of drops of very catchable balls)
2009 Training Camp clips? I can't find any.
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I'm glad they're going with the Hanie project.
Now’s not a bad time to do it… you got your franchise guy finally, and you’re relying on his special talents to take this team far. It’s all about him. There’s no doubt about it, and no sense in kidding yourselves.
So, if anything that we can not mention, happened to the guy we cannot mention… our season’s done anyway, and no Brian Griese or Byron Leftwich is gonna keep it glued together. Therefore, you go with a prospect you can develop, and keep for a while longer… so he knows the playbook inside out and doesn’t run away too early during Free Agency. In time, under the tootelage of Cutler, he might be pretty good. See Matt Cassel (Brady), Matt Hasselback (Favre), Mark Brunell (Favre), Scott Mitchell (Marino), Frank Reich (Kelly), and Jeff Hostetler (Simms) as some good examples.
I’ve noticed he has a fairly slow release, can get overconfident in some of his throws, and gets sacked a lot because of lack of mobility on the negative side
I thought he was more of a mobile QB though? I guy who could extend the play like Cutler does… which makes him a good understudy, and allows us to run the same protection and call the same playbook with him under center.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Aug 14, 2009 12:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
are you sure
that was hanie? i thought that was the report on basenez?!?! from the picture i’ve drawn in MY MIND, i thought hanie was more of a “unpolished” cutler… mobile QB, rocket arm…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Aug 14, 2009 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here
Watch this from last pre-season
He scrambles a bunch… looks pretty mobile to me.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Aug 14, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
threw the ball 55-60 yds with ease...
scrambled his @$$ off!!! that’s what i remembered of him… glad to see i wasn’t wrong…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Aug 14, 2009 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
Sure if Cutler goes down for the season, the Bears are screwed most likely, no matter who the backup is. But what is Cutler goes down a for a few games with a less serious injury? Hopefully you have a guy with some experience to hold the fort until either Cutler returns. Could Hanie do the job? Maybe, but we have no real idea and that is the point. The team won most of its games when rookie Kyle Orton was forced into the starting role, but that team had an overpowering defense, the 2009 team probably does not. Get a veteran to hold the fort if need and give time to see if Hanie is the real deal or not.
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
--Winston Churchill
by lookingdeadred on Aug 14, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're probably right about the mobility..
I just notice he still took a lot of sacks in preseason last year after being among the leaders in college – so my concern is how well he moves in the pocket most of all. I love that he will take the ball and put his shoulder down to pick up yards.
I love that he’s understudy to Cutler! I think they’re very similar QB’s and this is the best possible scenario for Hanie.
by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 14, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, Hanie was a scrambler in Ft Collins, mobile.
As an aside –
I met a sexy supermodel redheaded young woman in Ft Collins while I was there – best summer of my life.
by Maelvampyre on Aug 14, 2009 8:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shhh.. I'll want to afford a house when I move back there, and stories of redhead supermodels won't help..
On the Hanie as a mobile QB – the interesting question is why he got sacked so much. Either he still needs to develop a sixth sense about the pocket, or he put up those numbers with absolutely the worst pass protection in the nation. If the latter, he’s probably a lot better than anyione ever realized. However, even the former is fixable, because he can scramble.
by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 14, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm ok with Hanie
2 years in the system now, he has the physical tools, it the mental part he needs to figure out… he has a big arm and he can scramble a bit, a good fit behind Cutler
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 14, 2009 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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