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Bears Drop First Preseason Game To Bills 27-20

It is the first preseason game of the year, the Bears had a ton of starters not playing, and the Bills ran a no huddle offense all game. So it isn't a big deal, but despite only losing by 7 points, the Bears were sloppy.  There were missed tackles, dropped passes, missed assignments, bad routes, and random other problems.  The good thing is those can be fixed.

The long awaited debut of Jay Cuter was just OK, even with his obsession with throwing to Devin Hester.  Urlacher and  Briggs looked good.  Let's just take a look at how some of our rookies did and I'll let you all take over.

Johnny Knox, 2 rec for 22 yards, 1 punt return for 39  yards

Juaquin Iglesias, 1 rec for 1 yards and 1 TD, 2 returns for 59 yards

Jarron Gilbert, 4 tackles, 2 solo

Marcus Freeman, 3 tackles, 3 solo

So what did you think?

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I think I'm glad I had to work tonight.

I have a feeling I’d be really pissed right now had I watched that game.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Aug 15, 2009 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I only listened to the first half

and my ears were not pleased with what they heard. But for a dose of perspective last year the Lions went 4-0 in preseason. We all know how that story ended. Hopefully a week of practice and some work in some areas, we will have a better showing in the next one.

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by Ditkavsworld on Aug 15, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I'm not gonna read too much into it

but it’s still enough to piss me off. The secondary definitely worries me though. That’s not exactly a real highly respected tri of quarterbacks that just absolutely embarassed our db’s.

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by JerBear50 on Aug 15, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

*trio

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Aug 15, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

also the 85 bears sucked in preseason as well.

same with the 06 bears i think? too lazy to actually look for the troof.

yea i only wish jay threw to other receivers more.

by reefermadness3 on Aug 15, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Lions went 4-0 last year

wins in the preseason mean nothing.

i’m just hoping no one really got hurt and now we have lots of things to work on.

by Allie on Aug 16, 2009 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa, let's not compare these two teams.

Way too premature to even mention the two teams in the same breath.

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by propheteer on Aug 16, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

CUTLER THREW A PICK AND NO TD'S!!! SEASON'S OVER!!!!

The early AP rundown of the game is already painting Cutler as a bust, and I’m sure BLou and others will be on here saying the same crap, so I figured I’d try and beat them to it.

First preseason game never really shows much that much. My only prayer is someone magically steps up in that recieving corps, and Cutler has the guts to go to them. Little too much looking at Hester…

by Mike Martin on Aug 15, 2009 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

All I have to say to those people

ready to throw Cutler under that bus is he threw the same amount of pics as Tom Brady and 2 less than Orton. So I would say we’re still in a better position than last year.

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by Ditkavsworld on Aug 15, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya it's just preseason

Just saw the highlights of the game, and I don’t think it was bad too the point to say your season is over. All the analysts had a ton of praise for Hester (which has to seem promising for you guys) and they all didn’t think Cutler’s INT was all that bad. (Neither did I). He was just trying to make a play (which I would much rather have then him not properly reading th coverage)

by packallday555 on Aug 16, 2009 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jay Cutler

locked in on almost every pass. He didn’t look off anyone. He went to Hester way too much and seemed easy to read. This says two things. First, he would appear to have little confidence in his receivers (other than Devin). Second, if he continues to be predictable, regardless of whether other receivers develop, he’ll be throwing picks all year long. The other thing that made me very nervous; our secondary looked horrible. I think that’s an understatement, but I can’t find an adjective that describes it better. We couldn’t cover. Anyone. Period. The Bills QB’s and receivers looked incredible. If they win the Superbowl and have multiple probowlers, than I have made a bad assessment of our defense, but this team looked too good for words against our defense. I know its preseason, but the concerns of last year still look very much alive this year. I walked away with far too many questions and very few answers. Hopefully we’re shaking off the rust and revealing little to our opponents, cause if this is what we’ll bring to the regular season, its gonna be a long one.

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by Just Dave on Aug 15, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh and the Bills didn't play Owens.

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by Just Dave on Aug 15, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't Give Up! It's Only Preseason

Cutler will be OK. Hester is Cutler’s new Brandon Marshall wannabe every down target. If Hester were Marshall he might have caught that throw Cutler made to three defensive backs…oops, meant to Hester. But then again, remember that the QB always makes the receivers.

Urlacher looked good. Cutler made a nice throw to a wide open Olsen.

by Endzone on Aug 15, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't given up.

Hester shouldn’t be that greedy at this point, however. The QB may or may not make the receivers. I appreciate your response. Urlacher did look O.K. but not quite good. And Olsen never played. You are thinking of Dez Clark. I try to be optimistic, but never pollyanna. Thanks again for the response.

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by Just Dave on Aug 15, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't worry!!!!!!

Don’t worry about the offense; it’ll be fine. We didn’t gave our top two playmakers on the field (forte and olsen). Plus, the first team offense only ran one formation- the single back with two tight ends. We couldve got fancy and we will, but why show all of our plays in preseason? Anyways, the rule is, the better you look in preseason, the worse you start the year.

by devineben32 on Aug 16, 2009 7:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Come on..

I watched the game in its entirity and, although I’d be giddy had we won, the reality is that its the first game and it doesn’t count for anything. Having watched Cutler since he came into the NFL (I live in Aurora, CO), he is much better than he showed. Olsen didn’t play. Forte didn’t play. Out secondary was missing peanut and Zach. Steltz looked decent on a couple of plays, but this is more about creating game film to measure the progress of the young players. If anyone is ready to jump off the bandwagon, Orton should be available in a couple of weeks if he doesn’t settle down QUICK. He, too, will be fine for Denver. Although I HATE to see the Bears lose, they will be better for it. GO BEARS!

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by Fly1965 on Aug 16, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

My problem

is that these are the same exact problems as last season. By looking at tape of this game, it just shows the same, glaring needs this team has.

Sign Matt Jones immediately!
Upgrade Alfalava immediately!

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by propheteer on Aug 16, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Secondary

I’m not too worried about that…IIRC we were playing off the receivers all game, which is probably more due to the preseason.

by TCBullfrog on Aug 16, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is just something about this Bears' team

that for several years, it looks like pure luck when we do complete a pass, I don’t care who the QB is. Also, why is it that everytime it’s 3rd and whatever, our corners drop back 5 yards beyond whatever that number is, about 2 counts before the snap? I’m going to write this off as a pre-season game, and the first one at that, but there were a lot of “too familiar” bad things happening. Let’s see what happens against the Giants.

Also, did anyone see the Cutler press conference game after the game? When asked what happened on the interception and he was even given the option that he threw off his back foot or just tried to rush things, his comment was “well Devin isn’t much of a back shoulder, come back and go up for it guy so I’ll just have to learn from that”. Let’s hope he chooses his comments more carefully as the season progresses. I’m not saying he did throw Hester under the bus, but I could see where people might take it that way.

by BearFan611 on Aug 15, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Not a great comment

from a QB who was having his leadership and maturity questioned. Regardless. But, he’s probably right which says we have very little in the way of a #1 receiver.

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by Just Dave on Aug 15, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know,

that quote sounds to me like maybe he was being self-deprecating.

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by JerBear50 on Aug 15, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw it on Fox TV and it didn't seem that way, in fact it looked like he was getting aggravated with the questions...

let’s not read too much into it yet, but as I’ve said from the start, if he does have issues with media pressure this could be a huge problem. Chicago ain’t Denver……..

by BearFan611 on Aug 15, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

i read it as a

“well, i’ll just have to remember that”… he’s learning how the recievers like the ball, i don’t think he was trying to throw anyone under the bus.

by Allie on Aug 16, 2009 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

My only problem with it is, that's the kind of thing that most QB's would just say

“Hey, I underthrew it but we’ll learn from it and get better”, then talk to the receiver and coaches in private if he really felt Hester needed to do something different. As the leader of the offense, he needs to take the responsibility and earn the respect and gratitude of his new teammates.

by BearFan611 on Aug 16, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

we’ll just have to see.

by Allie on Aug 16, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you say magnified glass?

Reading way too much into it. I see it as a QB trying to make himself and his #1 receiver better. In other words, he’s thinking out loud instead of being PC in every way possible.

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by propheteer on Aug 16, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I look at it like this

the 85 Bears went 1-3 in preseason….the 05 Bears went 1-3….the Lions and I believe raiders went 4-0 last preseason…so…

the D line showed flashes I thought…the secondary stunk (and were sorely missing Tillman and Bowman)…Cutler was blah missing Olsen and Forte…all the talk of Rideau and DA was just that talk so far…..My heroes Knox and Iglesias were mixed (Knox should of caught that pass and Iglesias was invisible until the TD and KO return….

Only ones that showed up were Alex Brown, Urlacher, Briggs, Hanie and Rashid Davis (sigh)…..IMO…Hope they do more in the second game….or the Boo birds might get brutal….

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by CloudyFuture on Aug 15, 2009 9:44 PM CDT reply actions  

2005 bears went 3-2 in preseason

that was ortons rookie year and they played in the hall of fame game that 2005 defense was the best i have seen of ANY defense in my young 19 years even though we were bounced in the our first playoff game 2006 bears*NFC CHAMPS! went 1-3

by Bear Lovin 21 on Aug 16, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

We would of Won

If we didn’t put in Bananez the picks probably wouldn’t have happened and it would be tied or better since the picks also caused a loss of possession

by DaHamsta on Aug 15, 2009 9:44 PM CDT reply actions  

The win/loss in preseaon

ain’t as important than getting a good look at as many players as possible.

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by Dane Noble on Aug 15, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok

But you know after a couple interceptions that is probably enough of a look for the last drive put in Cutler so he can maybe give you a miracle

by DaHamsta on Aug 15, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

But that miracle would be meaningless and just another opportunity for someone to get hurt

It’s far better to leave a third stringer or practice squad guy on field just to see how they perform- leaving him in after those picks gives the coaches and front office a chance to see how this guy performs when things aren’t going his way, which is every QB goes through.

by Mike Martin on Aug 15, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's called the PRE-season for a reason

While I agree the play by Bazanez was terrible, the pre-season is meant to give teams a chance to see what their roster can do and teak with plays, personnel, etc. Also gives the players the chance to up their tempo to a more realistic one. The loss doesn’t matter one bit.

What does is matter is the play from guys like Devin Hester. Hester gave up on a touchdown play by not going for the ball. That is why Cutler kept going to Hester, to start testing him, to see if Hester can give a consistent effort. Maybe the coaching staff wanted to see how their #1 receiver would do. In my opinion, Hester has not been the same player since he got his lucrative contract. It’s like he doesn’t want to risk serious injury.

On a more positive note, I think our O-line did a decent job. Even though the Bills have a very good running game (14th in 2008, Bears were 24th), our D-line needs to improve a little more in stopping the run. The secondary was very bad… couldn’t even stop a Bills cheerleader and ask for her number. I still have hope, it’s only the first pre-season game.

Devin Hester's philosophy "big money = don't take risks"

by Jeesh on Aug 16, 2009 2:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but...

Keep in mind that these games should be judged in phases. COdy Balough, who normally wouldn’t see the field, whiffed badly a couple of times. WHat’s he been doing the last year? I could respect if he succumbed the a nasty bull rush, but he did a half-hearted touch-and-spin move that resulted in a hurry and a sack! nother thing; I personally believe that our Beloved Virginia, herself, should dock Turner’s pay EVERY time he does the FB Dive. It doesn’t work! Wolfe up the middle will not work. My basic thought is that we need to really work on the depth of this team or we will be in real trouble with a couple of inevitable key injuries (sound familiar?)

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by Fly1965 on Aug 16, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone found out

that Cody will be cut.

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by propheteer on Aug 16, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

We would of Won

Would HAVE. Would HAVE. Speak English, or you’ll upset HoneyBear.

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by Spongie on Aug 15, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or would've. I love contractions.

Just not the labor kind my wife went through.

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by Just Dave on Aug 15, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

nope, just English.

SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon

by burpchelischili on Aug 15, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

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by Spongie on Aug 16, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

Thanks for Orton and the picks. (well, maybe just thanks for the picks)

Get used to this from Cutler. He did it all last year. That’s why he had all those yards, but not that many touchdowns. He throws picks in the endzone.

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by Troy Hufford on Aug 15, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks for the picks

did you mean the 3 of them last night?

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 15, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey

nice work trading your top five pick to seattle.

by mike b on Aug 16, 2009 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Any future pick is conditional, since you don't know where a teams going to finish.

We’re glad you managed to gain access to the only working computer in that illiterate shithole state of yours, but please feel free to troll elsewhere.

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by JerBear50 on Aug 16, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kentucky is the enema of America.

by bears rock on Aug 16, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, since they are conditional, maybe you should tell your buddy mike b the same.

The broncos are not going to finish in the bottom five.

Actually, it seems that you know very little about Kentucky. You also know very little about me, as well. I’m a Bioengineering major at the University of Louisville. It’s one of the best engineering programs in the country. UK is also a great institution. Kentucky is not an “illiterate shithole state”. Perhaps if you were more cultured or if you read the newspaper (outside of the sports section), you would know that there are people in Kentucky a lot smarter than you.

Sure, there are stupid people in Kentucky, but there are stupid people everywhere. Apparently, there are quite a few from Illinois.

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by Troy Hufford on Aug 17, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mike B didn't say anything about the picks being conditional,

and he’s also a regular on this site, not someone popping on this site to run their mouth. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to get back to the sports section, and to the vast amount of information about Kentucky spread throughout the rest of the paper. Oh look, here’s an article on Rick Pitino…

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by JerBear50 on Aug 17, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure, there are stupid people in Kentucky, but there are stupid people everywhere. Apparently, there are quite a few from Illinois.

Funny I’m not from either state. So I guess that makes me smart. :)

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by Ditkavsworld on Aug 17, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wrong.

Louisville doesn’t even crack the top 90 of “best engineering programs in the country,” according to rankings on US News and World Report. There are multiple other rankings of engineering programs, as well, where Louisville doesn’t get a nod there either.

- Smudgers

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by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

You sir

just became my favorite researcher on this site

I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...

by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do what I do. :)

I actually had a friend once tell me that the Citadel, a small military college here in SC, was one of the top engineering programs in the nation. He swore it was better than M.I.T., Harvard and California-Berkeley. He was obviously much further off than this guy, but still…

- Smudgers

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by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Citadel

for Marines right?

I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...

by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nah...

Don’t think it has an affiliation with a particular branch.

- Smudgers

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by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is mainly the Corp of Cadets.

There are also Marines and Navy students there as well. And their Civil engineering program is one of the best in the country.

(Got a cousin who graduated from there in 2006)

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by Dane Noble on Aug 18, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Corp of Cadets - you are correct.

And is it really? I’ve read a ton on the different programs and how they stack up to the other programs but have never seen anything that warranted that title. Not arguing, just owe a friend an apology if that’s the case.

- Smudgers

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by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do you always have to be right, GB? ;)
The School of Engineering moved up from No. 38 to No. 34 in this year’s rankings of the best undergraduate engineering programs in the nation. In addition the civil engineering program was ranked No. 8 in undergraduate engineering specialty programs.

Taken from this article, linkers. “Civil” did help in the search engine. Thanks, now I’m off to make good.

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by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

a little something for you...

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/engineering-majors/555743-us-news-2009-undergraduate-engineering-rankings.html

Champaign/urbana popped up a few times on the list… must be where all the stupid people from illinois go to…

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by windycity72 on Aug 18, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

Like I said, the civil tag really helped narrow that down for the Citadel. I was originally searching for the program as a whole. Besides on the Citadel site (linked above), I still haven’t seen the engineering school actually ranked by US News. I’m sure it is though, if the school claims it in press releases. And not that it really matters.

Although, still didn’t see Louisville anywhere, hmmm…

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by David Taylor on Aug 24, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got nailed for posting a Simpson's quote about the French that some found offensive.

For that I will gladly apologize. But calling Kentucky an “illiterate shithole state” or the “Enema of America” is O.K. cause this guys a troll. What are the standards for decency on this site anyway??

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Aug 18, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

With all due respect Dave, moderating these boards ain’t a cake walk, and a lot of times, things go left untouched when maybe they shouldn’t.

For this, yeah, it could’ve drawn some ire… but for all intents in this situation, the troll was left to the mercy of the board. Don’t ask for black and white, cause you aren’t gonna get it…

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by Dane Noble on Aug 18, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm treading shaky ground and I don't want to make an enemy out of anyone, but

 I understand that monitoring this site must create quite a few headaches. I would also like to re-re-reiterate that this site is my favorite simply because of its genuinely good natured banter. But please don’t play favorites with the posters based on how long they’ve posted or how much they’ve contributed to this site. Too often, unfortunately, this is the way it appears to happen to me. Again, I don’t want to make an enemy out of anyone. I love the work this site does. Thanks for responding to me GB and I hope you and the others will only view this as the “constructive” criticism it was intended to be. Remember “Find good in the world.” And I hope LSU win the national championship!!

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by Just Dave on Aug 18, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

I hope they lose it to the Iowa Hawkeyes, but either way….

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by Just Dave on Aug 18, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

Good stuff.

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by Dane Noble on Aug 19, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just got this awful image

of the Gators blowing that game, and the year-long beatdown from you that I’m gonna have to endure if that happens.

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by JerBear50 on Aug 19, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think a SEC East vs West Nat'l Championship is gonna happen...

unless the two teams don’t play each other in the regular season.

But yes. as stacked as the Gators be, if LSU manages to somehow win, you’ll hear about it. :)

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by Dane Noble on Aug 19, 2009 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, I was talking about regular season.

I guess we’ll see in October. It’s even in your backyard this year. By the way, someone needs to let LSU fans know that when they paint their faces, they need to go with a lighter shade of purple. I saw a pic the other day, and I swear to god I thought they were all in black-face. I was horrified until I realized it was actually just dark purple lol.

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by JerBear50 on Aug 20, 2009 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wish in one hand and piss in the other
And I hope LSU win the national championship!!

See which fills up first. :)

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by JerBear50 on Aug 19, 2009 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

But please don’t play favorites with the posters based on how long they’ve posted or how much they’ve contributed to this site.

Of course we try not to, but it is a well-established community. But, anyone who can contribute actual intelligence or constructive posts is going to get the respect from the entire community, which you do.

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by Dane Noble on Aug 19, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Clarification
Of course we try not to, but it is a well-established community.

That came out wrong, and coming from someone who hasn’t been here for a full year yet, I apologize.

My point was, no matter if you are new or not, if you aren’t some jag-off troll you shouldn’t have any problems.

Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec (wreck) comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.

by Dane Noble on Aug 19, 2009 1:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

So

as long as we don’t behave like Favre we’re good right?

I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 19, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

But then again

Mayber it was better losing this game so we are garanteed not to go 4-0 in preseason like the Lions did and you know how that ended up

by DaHamsta on Aug 15, 2009 9:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Its not so bad Guys

Two starters on offense weren’t playing, I think three on defense, the things that do stand out though is our corners play too far off the receivers and our D line seemed ok at best, our oline needs to keep our Qb clean. Other than that its not something that can’t be fixed by the time the season starts, oh and Cutler needs to take what the defense gives him and not try to go deep so much.

by payton#34 on Aug 15, 2009 10:00 PM CDT reply actions  

It's friggin' preseason

Let’s all get our panties in a wad, eh boys?!?

by SC Dave on Aug 15, 2009 10:07 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Could it be

That we maybe have found the next Mike Brown in Al Afalava??? I thought he did a lot of good things today considering he was late coming into the OTA’s. The cornerback’s performance is at the opposite end of the spectrum unfortunately!!

by prbart140 on Aug 15, 2009 10:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Cutler was far below "ok" in this game.

I’d like to blame his performance on his lack of familiarity with the rest of this offense, but really, what does not knowing a player’s name have to do with him missing a wide open man and instead forcing it to Hester for the interception?

For someone traded for as a first rate QB, he didn’t perform like one. Struck me as someone with the same rationale as Rex under pressure.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Aug 15, 2009 10:17 PM CDT reply actions  

lol, yup.

Bringing Bronco love from 1,112 miles away

by Troy Hufford on Aug 15, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know why you're dancing around and reaping the benefits.

Cutler isn’t where he should be considering the cost, but he’ll get there sooner than later. Your team is going nowhere fast.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Aug 15, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, despite getting killed in the turnover department, our first team D gave up 3 points.

7 points came from the pick that was returned inside the 5 yard line. The other seven came from the second team D.

So, I would say that our D is much improved with the addition of Dawkins, Goodman, Hill, Reid, Fields, Ayers, Davis, Smith, and McBath. Our running game is stout, especially when Knowshon gets back. The O-Line gave up the 12 sacks last season and all 5 guys returned this year. WRs are amazing. Marshall is going to be able to play all season and Royal and Stokely and Gaffney and Jackson are going to be a great group. McKinley might make the team, too. So, I would say we are on the up and up. All Orton or Simms need to do is manage the game and we should be good to go.

Simms looked really good. It’s due to the playcalling. Once we got Hillis in there pounding the rock, Simms was playing a defense that needed to respect the run. When Orton was in, all we did was pass. McDaniels did this to see what Orton could really do and for almost the whole first drive, Orton responded very well. McDaniels playcalling was meant to evaluate players, not to win the game.

The Broncos will be fine.

Bringing Bronco love from 1,112 miles away

by Troy Hufford on Aug 16, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

"MIGHT

Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.

by windycity72 on Aug 17, 2009 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

OOPS...

“might” and “going to”… every teams’ battle cry… every year! first “PRE-SEASON” game… come on dude, you serious?!?!

Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.

by windycity72 on Aug 17, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, let's talk facts then.

Jay Cutler.

Fact – He cannot take the blame for any single broken play. It is always someone else’s fault if he throws directly to the free safety.

Fact – The reason he isn’t in Denver is because he pouted because McDaniels took a phone call that hurt his feelings. He wouldn’t return phone calls from HIS OWNER!!!!! The guy who writes his check left voicemail messages that Cutler wouldn’t return.

Fact – Cutler became the second coming of Christ in Chicago and then played like the inconsistent quarterback he really is.

I just wanna let you guys know that I have seen this before. Cutler will be really good the first few weeks. However, once he has a bad play, which will happen, he pouts and gives up. Sometimes he will take it to the next level and call out a WR or talk bad about the playcalling, etc.

I just wanna let you guys know that you all got yourselves a serious disappointment on your hands.

Bringing Bronco love from 1,112 miles away

by Troy Hufford on Aug 17, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just wanna let you guys know that you all got yourselves a serious disappointment on your hands

So do you. And we didn’t ask.

I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 17, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

All I hear is

kyle orton defensive MVP….

"There is no such thing as good or evil....Only power and those to weak to seek it....."

- Jerry Angelo

by CloudyFuture on Aug 15, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

honestly, I think Simms will start in september.

So, Orton is really a non-issue. However, Ayers is really looking good. That 16 pick was really helpful.

Bringing Bronco love from 1,112 miles away

by Troy Hufford on Aug 16, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

seriously..all this negativity already..it was a preseason game..everybody is still knocking the rust off and he is still getting used to our playbook/wideouts. seriously take a freaking chill pill. so he threw an INT big deal.. what matters is the season and he only threw 10 passes..c’mon now. dont make me paste a fail pic for your comments.. lets not be fair weather fans ok. look for the good. focus on the good fix the bad.

Bring back our honey bears...sick and tired of hearing about the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and the bars they go work at when they quit. cold weather + cheerleaders in skimpy outfits = lots of fun

by tomh115 on Aug 15, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Him coming away with 1 int was one of the highlights for his night.

There should have been more. And the fact that he only threw 10 passes was, again, his fault. Had he been able to put a drive together, I’m sure that number would have been a bit higher.

Look, the fact is we’re on this site because we care enough about the sport and the team to pay attention to all the details. It’s not our job to put on a happy face and pretend the pre-season was made for players to intentionally play poorly.

This is my first time commenting on an actual game on WCG, but I certainly don’t hope you’re implying that people on here refrain from commenting on a player’s performance when it’s not a good one. Unless you’re talking about someone’s comment other than mine, I’d have to assume that.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Aug 15, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

no he is suggesting

that everyone who is hitting the panic button to chill out the offense we saw yesterday is no where near what we will see in the regular season, lovie notoriously scales things back in preseason, think of it this way, you are jay cutler and you have been running plays from a play book for almost two weeks now, then you go into your first game and the coach calls plays similar to the ones you used to run in high school, doesnt exactly sound like the best equation for success. And when real games start and people start sucking like mckie, rashied, vasher (god I hope not ), and ron turner people will come out of the woodwork to cut them down (especially turner).

"snuffalufagus fucks my shit up"

by leopoldjones on Aug 16, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's preseason

It doesn’t matter if anyone does outstanding or anyone does mad. For the most part, it means nothing.

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Aug 15, 2009 10:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Any Thoughts on the Defense?

It looked like our front four got pretty good pressure and I thought the linebackers played pretty well.

by BoilerUp! on Aug 15, 2009 10:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Besides Vasher's mishap, the defense looked good.

It was really exciting to hear how ready Urlacher is to make a big splash on this season.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Aug 15, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes. I will follow your question with a question.

Do we have a secondary? I didn’t see one tonight.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Aug 16, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I thought the line played pretty well. The secondary was playing soft all night and didn’t look good. It will be on the coaches to scheme better once the real games start.

by TCBullfrog on Aug 16, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Overall....

not too many people stood out. Hanie looks like he has all the potential in the world and looks far and away better than Bassenez…. so no backup QB controversy.

First string O-line looked better than last years. It looks like they’re trying to get G. Wolfe in the mix more which I think will pay dividends. And, despite the terrible drop that lead to an interception, Knox showed flashes of potential.

The D-Line wasn’t dominant, but it looked markedly improved over last years group.

Cutler obviously didn’t look sharp, but let’s drop the Grossman references… even after the bad plays, he continued to play confidently… something Rex would never do after throwing an interception.

Finally, the secondary did not look good at all…. But considering the inexperience there, they could have looked a lot worse.

Bear Down, Chicago Bears!

by topdoggkyle on Aug 15, 2009 11:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Good takes, all.

Hanie: Accurate as always, but why does he get sacked so much being such a mobile QB – is it a pocket presence issue?
Basenez – I’d like to Practice squad him and pick up a veteran backup. I don’t see anything there besides a decent arm.
D-line – Very concerning – I’d hoped for much more out of them.
Receivers – I’d like to see them be about 100 times more aggressive around the ball, including Hester. The good ones do that, they fight like dogs and get balls – and that is a teachable, learnable skill.
The secondary is a complete disaster still.

by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 16, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

But again...

Look at it this way; like him or not, we all know Orton is better than he showed. The same can be said of Cutler. As for the Secondary, they were missing Tillman. Bowman was out, as well. Did Manning even play? They have alot of work to do, no doubt. But I honestly feel some are over-analyzing the very first game. I’ll be at the Denver game, and I’m expecting it to be MUCH better by then!

Getcha Beernuts Ready!

by Fly1965 on Aug 16, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree on everything

I thought the O-Line was very good in pass protection…I don’t recall Cutler being particularly pressured all night.

by TCBullfrog on Aug 16, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

The biggest problem to me is that it looked the same as we've always looked

which makes me continue to question our schemes on both sides of the ball. Our blitzes get picked up, we play too far off the receivers, our receivers either don’t get open or our QB can’t find them (since we’ve gone through Grossman, Hutchison, Orton, and now Cutler, I’m guessing it’s more of a problem with the receivers or the way the routes are designed), and we can’t sustain drives.

Like I said earlier, it’s only the first preseason game so I’m not overly concerned about an interception or a dropped pass at this point. The ‘85 Bears didn’t win until the 4th game in the Super Bowl year, so I don’t care that we didn’t win the game, but I’m disappointed that we didn’t see any improvement in the areas they concentrated on during the off-season.

by BearFan611 on Aug 15, 2009 11:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I will take a team looking, in the pre-season, like they did in the latter half of the season.

SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon

by burpchelischili on Aug 15, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup,

If the first pre-season game looks like the last game of the season, I count it as an improvement. Not working at “Game Speed” for that long, and then trying to turn it on for the first time that year? That’s why we have the pre-season to begin with, to get the players used to game speed, and to allow the coaching staff to watch the players at game speed.

Why care about what the score was? Some of the guys on the field tonight are probably not good enough to play for BumFluxEgypt Junior High. On the girls team. So what if they allowed the guy from WetandSwampy Louisianna to score? Cutler WILL get better, or he WILL hear about it. He might have to listen real hard though, you know, Bears fans being so quiet about their opinions and all.

SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon

by burpchelischili on Aug 16, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is also known as "Johnny Bailey syndrome"

Drafted in 1990 to be a kick returner and backup RB, he had a ridiculous pre-season and people actually thought he was going to give Neal Anderson a run for his money as the starting RB.

Instead, Bailey picked up 86 yards in 26 carries (while being a decent punt returner and a pretty mediocre kickoff returner), was outrushed the next year by ancient WR Dennis Gentry, and found himself in the hellhole of football, the Phoenix Cardinals.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Aug 16, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

However

Johnny Bailey DID rise to legendary status as a kick returner in Tecmo Super Bowl.

Which means that aging nerds such as myself will remember his name forever. :)

by TCBullfrog on Aug 16, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

You have, obviously, forgotten what the Bears last regular season game looked like against Houston...

I can’t believe a return to THAT would be considered an improvement in anyone’s universe!

by BearFan611 on Aug 16, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd also like to point out that...

…the Bills also had a game played before the first snap…that extra time in pads, in a “real game” situation was probably an advantage…

And, I wonder if Cutler was forcing the ball to Hester on purpose…to get in extra work, or see what Devon could do against a defense that was really going for it, as opposed to practice

by HawkInExile on Aug 15, 2009 11:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Not to mention he might have just wanted to put on a big show for Chicago.

High risk can equal high reward.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Aug 15, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Forcing The Ball

That’s what Cutler does. It works great between the 20’s but not in the redzone.

by Endzone on Aug 15, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm, force the ball he does

Do or do not, there is no try…

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Aug 16, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

A lot of things just need some touch ups

like the corners plying to far off, just tell them to play closer and keeping on that subject tillman, bowman and manning were all out
Cutler didn’t have Olsen and Forte
But it relieving to see Hanies play

by DaHamsta on Aug 15, 2009 11:30 PM CDT reply actions  

thank you

"Triple B's Bulls Bears... Blackhawks (i guess)"

by Faizamaze on Aug 15, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

everyones

like oh noo bears are gonna suck.. cutler doesnt give a shit about preseason.. we already know hes a good QB.. i mean hester didnt look great but its the first game..

"Triple B's Bulls Bears... Blackhawks (i guess)"

by Faizamaze on Aug 15, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know....

Don’t you remember your first game each season everything feels awkward. Plus the Bills are already a game ahead of the Bears. People are dumb. Just shut up until we play GB.

by SoulEater7 on Aug 15, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually Cutler is the least of our worries tonight

It’s quite obvious that the bills wanted this game a lot more than the bears as the seemed to be using their complete playbook and the bears went very vanilla on both sides of the ball but..the things that were hurting us last year do not look resolved. Our pass rush did not look that much better ( where is the Marinelli affect?). Secondary no improvement, still can’t stop third down or the slant route. This is a major worry. Still poor run blocking and could not get a consistent push against the powerhouse buffalo bills. I do however think our pass blocking was excellent and Cutler had plenty of time. First game, lets step back from the ledge, but I would have like to see more improvement over our weak spots.

by tfrabotta on Aug 15, 2009 11:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't panic!

Have you seen Cutler throw? It looked to me like tonight he was asked to find Hester as many times as possible. This is not the season, it is the preseason. The only thing you are looking for is the last end of the roster. You want to shake the rust off and find out what your roster will be. You don’t show any of your real offense or defense because you don’t want anyone to be able to game plan against what you have in store for the season. Look at last year, we went 1-3, then came out and killed the Colts! If you look at last year, we needed to win one more game to make the playoffs. Or better yet a fourth quarter against the Panthers, and Bucs, a last eleven seconds against the Falcons, a catch from Rashied Davis against the Titans to send it into at least overtime. If I was Lovie or JA, I would have spent the entire offseason learning how to finish games. Calm down and realize that this team under Lovie Smith is made to play close games and win most of them. We show nothing during the preseason, because it doesn’t f***ing matter!!

by Higgins on Aug 15, 2009 11:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Just an observation

Worrying about the season based on the first preseason game is the definition of idiocy.

We now return to the regularly scheduled meltdown, already in progress…

And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.

by xarker on Aug 15, 2009 11:49 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

wrecked...

this was not a bad game at all. I often say that the team that wins a preseason game usually is the one that feels it needs a “win” on its record to promote the “idea” of a winning franchise. Lighten up everyone. The Bears were looking to get playing time for their 3s and 4s more than anything else. The job for the coaching staff now is to make tough decisions about the 53-man roster not “winning” practice games. The more reps the back-ups and bubble guys get the better.

"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever"-D St Hubbins Spinal Tap

by LostInSTL on Aug 16, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

DENVER FAN HERE!!!

You guys got a great, young quarterback in Jay Cutler. He has one of the strongest arms in the league and all he needs is a couple receivers and you guys will be headed to the Super Bowl. Lol, I can’t deny it and I won’t deny it, the Bears are my second favorite team (it’s where all my family is). Just to give you guys a little insight on Cutler- he looked to force the ball to Hester this game… not to get Hester the ball but it’s what Cutler does. He did it in Denver too with Marshall. Once he matures just a little bit more he’ll stop forcing passes to his primary receiver. He needs to work on checking down because you guys have a very talented team. When he checks down to Olsen and Forte coming out of the backfield your offense will be unstoppable.

GO BRONCOS! GO BEARS!

by higgyhoops12 on Aug 15, 2009 11:56 PM CDT reply actions  

It’ll be better when his primary receiver gets on the field. Olsen can go up for those jump balls.

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy

by Spongie on Aug 16, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

A mixed bag

Some of the new guys have potential. Johnny Knox looks like a ballplayer and showed some nice moves, not withstanding the tip/drop. The Bills’ corners were lining up 12 yards off him. If we could fire a quick pass immediately after the snap, I bet he’d make somebody miss and get downfield.

Moore was not brilliant, but he played aggressively and was actually trying to cover opposing receivers. Gotta love the coaches for letting Melton return a kick.

Kevin Payne is still trying to kill people instead of tackle them. Not good. We couldn’t seem to cover their tight end.

by Shuffle85 on Aug 16, 2009 12:00 AM CDT reply actions  

If you guys wanna know why Cutler threw to Hester so much tonight

it’s because they need to work with each other. It’s the first preseason game. They are trying to build a rapport together. So thats why he forced so many passes to Hester. That was planned. now calm down.

by SoulEater7 on Aug 16, 2009 12:21 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't see how forcing a ball to Hester in triple-coverage helps them synchronize.

If that’s the case, then Cutler would be just as well off practicing the patterns of his other receivers – you know, the open ones.

"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT

by Black Sox Baseball on Aug 16, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you really wanna know..

why Cutler forced in to Hester it’s because that’s what Cutler does. He falls in love with one receiver and doesn’t trust the others as much. Last year Cutler had Marshall, Royal, Stokley, Graham, and Scheffler to throw to. He threw to Marshall about 50% of the time at least. It’s not because he didn’t have anyone else to throw to, but it’s just how Jay Cutler is.

by higgyhoops12 on Aug 16, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

so... cutler threw for 4500yds...
He threw to Marshall about 50%

and… marshall had 1200 of those… must be that “NEW MATH” they’re teaching in them ther’ hills…

Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.

by windycity72 on Aug 17, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now!!!!

thats why they play preseason. This defense is in trouble, don’t get me wrong I love the Bears.

There are only three types of people; makers, takers, and fakers. Which one are you???

by gaingrene on Aug 16, 2009 12:32 AM CDT reply actions  

First preseason game

A. it was bound to be messy. Not everyone played and its a new team and system for the QB. so what.
B. The Bills had the advantage of playing full speed against the Titans before us to tweak what was wrong with their execution. We didnt and only lost by 7 who really is worse off? Dont jump the shark, preseason games are ugly anyway they arent supposed to be poetry in motion otherwise we could end up like the lions and blow our wad early. sorry if that was inappropriate.

by icarr0331 on Aug 16, 2009 1:05 AM CDT reply actions  

wow

every ahole who owns a computer and can spell bears is out tonight.

by mike b on Aug 16, 2009 1:30 AM CDT reply actions  

That includes you

although you’re probably the only ahole with a Rent-a-center laptop….

"There are plenty of guys out there who are bigger, stronger, or faster than me, but there is nobody-and I mean nobody-who tried harder than I do on the football field." - Mike Singletary

by Jeesh on Aug 16, 2009 3:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

mike b

has been a poster here for a while..be nice

Bring back our honey bears...sick and tired of hearing about the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and the bars they go work at when they quit. cold weather + cheerleaders in skimpy outfits = lots of fun

by tomh115 on Aug 16, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ooohhhh!

You’re that “you haven’t been posting as long as I have so you need to leave” guy that lives on every blog/message board! I recognize you now!

by Mike Martin on Aug 16, 2009 4:30 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Aside from the shakey Cutler stuff

the defense was not so cool.

I’m sure the majority of it can be tightened up and all… but Evans was working Vasher like a … metaphor i can’t connect right now.

Hopefully the rest of that can be fixed… but Vash looked awful.

by Allie on Aug 16, 2009 1:54 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm really starting to think

that Vasher doesn’t just look awful. I hope he proves me wrong.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Aug 16, 2009 4:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I saw the game and i thought...

Couple things that stand out to me is, OMG Johnny Knox is a speed Demon. He was one block and a cut back away from a touchdown.

I had my eyes on DJ Moore quite a bit. He was beaten on a couple plays sure, but he had good tackling after the receiver caught the ball.

Jay Cutler is going to be fine, man that dude has an arm on him. It was the first pre-season game after all.

The defense in general seemed to get a bit winded with the no huddle, they got to the QB a few times, some were just good plays of geting the ball out of the QB’s hands right before the sack.

Overall, i can’t say i liked everything i saw, i think it’s gonna come together though because i did see a lot of intensity on the defensive side of the ball, especially in the first half.

by Chitownproduct on Aug 16, 2009 3:00 AM CDT reply actions  

I 2nd these thoughts...

Agree 120% on Knox and Moore. These guys are rising stars.

Al Afalava is starting to really impress me-gets after the ball quickly.

Cutler had only one goal-work on Hester and see what he can do.

The D-line was not as strong as I had hoped-this does concern me, Harrison is out of shape! Gilbert looks damn good, and Dusty is outa here!

The LBs were exquisite across the board-even Rivera played well!

The O-line generally played well-need some time to “gel”; very concerned about Omiyale! He looked slow and weak! Beekman is a better run blocker.

WRs ran well-not concerned at this point, hope Cutler and Hester figure out their rhythm soon because Bennettt, Rideau, and DA need some catches too.

Hanie is a solid backup, but we should get a vet QB for emergencies. Basanez needs a year or so to get his feet under him.

Do not look at the score in these games, watch the players; especially the 3s and 4s!

"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever"-D St Hubbins Spinal Tap

by LostInSTL on Aug 16, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Give them time

It’s pre-season, it’s just more organized practice.

by elyse2514 on Aug 16, 2009 8:12 AM CDT reply actions  

I couldn't care less what the final score was... really... It could've been 30 - 0 and I still wouldn't give a Green Bay Crap.

What matters to me:
What did the Bears do wrong and how will they improve on that?
What did the do well and how can they build on that?

D
- I saw the “mug look” a few times, I recall it failing last night as much as it failed in 08’ and Mark Anderson still doesn’t contain. The slant is still gashing the D. Vasher is steadily being dominated and our secondary as a whole looked more like A-hole.
+The Bears were VERY stout against the run. Our front four showed some potential (rushing the passer). Afalava, may be a piece to the puzzle after all.
O
- The Cutler INT looked awful (I blame Cutler mostly) and he did seem to pick his receiver coming out of the huddle. I thought our O-line depth left much to be desired. And too many three and outs…
+ Cutler did show positive glimpses (I can live with that, it’s pre-season). I thought KJ was running hard. I also thought Bennett and Rideau looked good with their routes (very encouraging).

I’m looking forward to next…

by rdent4hof on Aug 16, 2009 9:23 AM CDT reply actions  

saw this coming

Sounds like the “we expect Jay Cutler to perform flawlessly and be our savior” syndrome has taken hold… I was afraid this would happen.

Here are some reasons why I’m not too worried about the upcoming regular season

1. Jay is learning a new offense
2. They don’t play preseason games like regular season games. The play calling is almost uncharacteristic from the regular season (except the FB dive)
3. Not every offensive starter was playing (i.e. Matt Forte and Greg Olsen)
4. Not every defensive starter was playing (i.e. Zach Bowman, Peanut, Tommie Harris, Danieal Manning)
5. They were experimenting with Devin Hester
6. Jay was only in the game for the 1st quarter
7. First Game of the PRESEASON (how many days has it been since the bears played another NFL team in a REAL game)
8. The 2 picks that the Bills scored off of were both thrown within our 15, and thrown by Basanez… not Cutler
9. The defense stayed on the field waaaaaaayyyyyyyy too long because of Basanez, not Cutler

Sorry, couldn’t think of a tenth reason.

by Da Sassage on Aug 16, 2009 10:29 AM CDT reply actions  

well said

Bring back our honey bears...sick and tired of hearing about the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and the bars they go work at when they quit. cold weather + cheerleaders in skimpy outfits = lots of fun

by tomh115 on Aug 16, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correction

I may have misspoke when stating bowman was a starter, although he has definitely been playing like one during training camp. Husker pride baby!

by Da Sassage on Aug 16, 2009 10:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Just in my opinion

i think cutlers fine and he still just needs to find that comfort zone. Couple bad ones to hester and some miscues but he was also without the person who has made him feel most comfortable so far, Greg Olsen. I think we’re all in for a surprise, as in he’s gonna come out gun-ho versus green bay and put some points on the board.

by steveo8034 on Aug 16, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Like I've said here previously, I'm not ready to pull the plug after one, meaningless pre-season game, but

I think we have to stop using the excuse “he was without Olsen and Forte” or the defense was “without Harris, Tillman, Manning, and Bowman”….THIS IS THE NFL. Players get hurt all the time and other players have to step up. Also, it’s not like Cutler and Olsen have been battery mates for years, they’ve never been in a game together. He should just be concentrating on the the system and see who’s open, not worrying what number they’re wearing (and I’m not saying he is, but that’s the common statement that been throughout this thread). Bowman has played exactly one Pro game in his career and Manning has still not been able to find a full time starting position on “D”, so it’s not like we’re saying Singletary and Hampton, in their prime, were missing.

Again, it’s one meaningless pre-season game and we shouldn’t overreact, but let’s understand that the good teams and coaches plug players in and have seamless transitions when starters go down. Look at the Patriots and teams like that. The chances of having “all your guys” go through an entire 16 game season are slim and none.

by BearFan611 on Aug 16, 2009 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Inspiration...

“I live among great Packer Fans who don’t complain about their team no matter the outcome. They just love the sport of football and their team. Although, it’s good
 to win!”

This is a statement from my wife. As a Bear Fan living in Packerland, I didn’t get
to see last night’s (Bear) game. What bothers me the most, are the preseason
comments made by the media and (many) fans. Cutler is being referred to
as “The Franchise”, the mighty man who brings home the Trophy. The enthusiasm
of his arrival at training camp was compared to “Beatle-mania” by Angelo
who orchestrated the expensive deal that brought Cutler to the Bears. This is
the same preseason hoopla that I heard of previous QB’s, including the likes of Grossman, Kramer, et, al. Some are even comparing Cutler to the Great
Sid Gilman. Some are even predicting that the Bears are “a lock” to be in the
Super Bowl this year. All because of the arrival of Cutler? What about Erlacher
and company…….don’t they count? I think that the arrival of Cutler gives us a
better chance to compete in the postseason. Giving Cutler all that power is a
bit dangerous, especially this time of the year. I remember too many disappointing
seasons in the past. What I’m looking forward to is not the Lombardi Trophy,
but all the fun that comes from watching an exciting TEAM play some good
football on their way to a winning season.

by Frybrain on Aug 16, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions  

It's

Sid Luckman and you can’t get away with misspelling Urlacher’s name on this site.

by Fridge72 on Aug 16, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

reads to me

like living amongst all that cheese has mushed your brain.

by Allie on Aug 16, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some are even comparing Cutler to the Great
Sid Gilman Luckman.

I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 16, 2009 1:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Blah blah blah reply button blah blah

:)

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Aug 16, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I know.

I was hoping no one would notice. :)

I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 17, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's only the first preseason game...

First off, we were missing a few starters on both offense and defense. Cutler looked as if though he was trying to force the ball to Hester. The DB’s looked pretty weak except for Afalava, but, you have to take into consideration that we were missing Tillman, Manning, and Bowman. I liked how we didn’t give up big plays, except for the QB run and the longer pass over Vasher. We still have to improve the pass defense, as earlier said, DB’s didn’t do a good job. Almost seemed as if we were having the same problems as last year… O-Line was pretty impressve, D-Line could be better, but I did see some bright spots. I liked Hanie’s performance, but Basanez really got my blood boiling. He looked like an absolute cretin throwing the 2 int’s and spoiling Iglesias’s good kick return. Personally, he’s the one that blew the game for us, but the other player could have done a better job though. Let’s hope for a better effort at home against NYG, although it won’t be easier.

by GriggsBriggs on Aug 16, 2009 5:01 PM CDT reply actions  

My Thoughts

1.) The O-Line looked good. Cutler seemed to have time on every play (although I missed the first drive, thank you NFLN)

2.) Cutler…was weird. He was really going for Hester there. It almost seemed like they were trying to just make that connection rather than run the play as it should be. I dunno, I’m not worried because it’s the preseason, but that was weird.

3.) The D-Line was good but not great. Which, seeing as there was no Tommie Harris, is a good sign, right?

4.) The defensive backfield was playing off a lot of time, it seemed. I wonder if they’ll do that in the regular season.

5.)Finally…Melton on the kickoff return was AWESOME. Since I had to watch it on NFLN, I had the Buffalo announcers…they were completely flustered. They couldn’t figure out who he was, they thought maybe he was a 4th string fullback who had to take a linemen’s number because there weren’t any left. :) It was great. I wonder if Toub is trying new things because the wedge is out this year?

by TCBullfrog on Aug 16, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Melton

used to return kicks back in the day, that’s why Toub put him in.

by Da Sassage on Aug 16, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

NFLN

Yeah I was a little pissed off when I saw at 6pm that they were still broadcasting the falcons vs lions game. It’s the Lions… who cares, they went 0-16.

The Buffalo announcers were ridiculous as well, talking S%!^ on Cutler… Did they forget who they signed to a one year deal on their team? “Cutler just had his feelings hurt hahah”, Ummmm T.O. was jealous of Tony Romo and Jason Witten and thought they were conspiring against him by not throwing him the ball as much. Could they be any more hypocritical?! I’m convinced they put something in the water in Buffalo.

by Da Sassage on Aug 16, 2009 7:25 PM CDT reply actions  

OOOPS...................

………………………sorry for the errors. I’ll have to cut down on my cheese.
What I really wanted to say is that I hope the
Bears get their act together before the season begins. The Packers looked
pretty solid last night and it will take a lot to beat them in Green Bay. Rogers
looked sharp and the defense looked pretty tough.
Hey……win or lose……GO BEARS!

by Frybrain on Aug 16, 2009 9:55 PM CDT reply actions  

1)Alfvalalvalaflava plays fast and seems to know where to be. Same with the LB from the Rams.

2) Vasher will not make the 53 man roster. I like Graham and Mcbride.

3) Ron Turner’s vanilla offense and playcalling is the thing that may lead to trouble.

4) We won 9 games last year…..with Orton and Rex. Add another year of maturity for Hester/Forte/Olsen….we’ll be fine.

by Trey23 on Aug 17, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

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