The Bears Den - 8/18/09
by ChiFan13 on Aug 18, 2009 12:00 AM CDT
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....where a three-day golf outing is the second best thing to happen this off-season.
In The Den
670 The Score
Laurence Holmes breaks down Saturday's game.
ChicagoBears.com
Some of the Bears rookies reacted differently after scoring TD's on Saturday.
Caleb Hanie solidified his role as the Bears' #2 QB.
Chicago Sun-Times
The cornerbacks are turning into a major concern for the Bears. Thanks for that analysis.
The Bears' WR's are lacking. Again, terrific analysis.
Chicago Tribune
Steve Rosenbloom talks about Devin Hester.
The Bears are ready to regroup with Monday's practice.
Rod Marinelli thinks the DL still has some work to do.
Daily Herald
The Bears have more work to do before Saturday's game. Thanks, Bob!
The verdict is still out on Cutler. After one preseason game.
Barry Rozner speaketh!
Detroit News
Terrence Metcalf signed with the Lions. Best of luck with that, kids.
ESPN Chicago
After looking at the game tape, Desmond Clark said the game wasn't as bad as previously thought.
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I just had to applaud your snark
Skimming all the headlines all I could think was “Paging, Cpt Obvious”.
Chicago is full of crap sportswriters.
Agreed
It’s like most of the Sports Writers in Chicago seem to think they work for the National Enquirer, or US Weekly by the way they go about their stories. It’s either no duh stories like “The Bears Had 11 Men On The Field At A Time Last Saturday!” or blatant sensationalism stories like “Cutler Says a Receiver Dropped A Ball, It Must Mean He Gives A Swirly To Earl Bennett And Calls Hester’s Mom A Harlett After Every Practice!”. It’s just ridiculous. Biggs is about the only one I can read without turning my head to the side and saying “Really?” about 4 times each article.
It’s the same reason I can hardly stand watching any of the news networks anymore. It’s all sensationalism, and very little actual news. I don’t care if Michael Jackson has been buried yet. It’s none of my business, and I find it kinda creepy.
Yes... total crap sportswriters indeed.
It’s an embarassment to this city… such a wonderful sports town, and not a single sports journalist worth a damn.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Ah, the pleasure is all mine.
Makes the Den more fun :)
But you’re right…..if we lose Jeff Dickerson, David Haugh (when he’s not being a preseason warrior), or Brad Biggs (when he’s actually writing something/when it’s not a “duh, no shit” story), we’re in serious trouble.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
I hate a lot of the stories too, but you really can't blame them too much...
with the internet, ESPN, sports radio, etc., there is a 24/7 demand on all sports writers to come up with something. Let’s face it, at this point of the year, real football news is pretty hard to come by so the fluff pieces are all there is to put out there. I agree, that I’d like to see some of these guys (and girls, sorry Allie) be a little more discriminating in their choices, but there must be a tremendous amount of pressure to write something.
From a newspaper perspective
The problem is they’re working for a medium that wants everything to be a “story.” And what fans who are serious enough to hang around WCG is really just information. So I’m happy that there are about a dozen people blogging and Tweeting little observations from training camp. That’s great. But it doesn’t work in the print newspaper medium.
I spent 20 years in that business (but not as a sportswriter, thank goodness), and a lot of the time it’s just one damned if you do, damned if you don’t. decision after another. Writing an article isn’t hard: The difficult part is dealing with people, making good decisions, trying to preserve a little integrity for yourself and your readers.
The Chicago press corps seems more focused on winning meaningless little day-to-day competitions with each other, and that’s a recipe for asshole.
I like Biggs. A lot. Don’t know what kind of person he is, but he gets the new media and he works his sources and doesn’t go in for the hype. Haugh has an interesting big-picture perspective sometimes, but doesn’t seem as sharp as Biggs’ reporting.
But the columnists? What a bunch of smug punks. And I’m entirely serious about this: If I ever run into Jay Mariotti, I’m gonna give that guy a poke in the nose for his crimes against journalism.
Please excuse the sermon.
And the prevailing wind happens to be blowing from Vichy.
by xarker on Aug 18, 2009 7:01 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
The cover of the Tribune sports page has turned into a tabloid.
It’s absolutely horrendous. Pick up the New York Times, and gasp, you actually find interesting and insightful sports stories to read that don’t fall under the tabloid flavor of the week.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Even the Wall Street Journal has good sports stories!
Granted, they aren’t usually about dissecting moves or what team X needs to make it to the SB, but they’re good stories nonetheless. Just sad the Trib can’t even put forth one decent one.
BTW xarker – Bravo on the post. You’re absolutely right and I really hope you knock Jay on his ass.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
On Biggs
I like him as a reporter. He’s a very good reporter… but not really much of an opinion maker.
Haugh has opinions… and changes them as often as he changes socks. Lame.
I want a sportswriter in this town who provides an interesting angle, has ideas, and isn’t afraid to print them. I liked Sam Smith for the sole reason that every week, he had a new trade proposal for the Bulls. I haven’t followed the Bulls much since MJ, but that’s the type of opinion I want to read. We have too many captain obvious journalists here… who take the same local or national story as every other writer and offer the same crap opinion.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Response to Rosenblog
The only reason why devin hester is a receiver is because thats the only way JA could justify paying devin what he paid him a summer ago. For whatever reason they could not just pay devin the same amount to return kicks which actually produced more T.D.s Instead they labled him a receiver in the making and now got him playing a position he has no instincts or awareness to play. Devin is doing it for the money. I honestly believe he has no interest in becoming a quality receiver. I wish the bears had the balls to pay him the same to just return kicks.
P.S. Thanks jerry and lovie for ruining what could have been the most electrifying career since gale sayers. Also being stubborn about devin being a number 1 receiver is hurting the team and hampering J cutler
by WavyGravy on Aug 18, 2009 9:24 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I disagree a bit.
The only reason why Devin Hester is a WR… is because JA didn’t have any impact WRs on the roster. It was an act of desperation… and Hester’s bank account reaped all the benefits.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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You hit the nail rite on the head.
It’s actually a shame on how we used him.He is the greatest return man of all time and he is not returning.
Couldn't agree more. Devin is worth every penny as a return man alone. Man up JA.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Metcalf to the Lions! HA!
That just made my day.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I put it in there just for you
I remember (quite vividly, I may add) the picture that went along with your “Bye-bye Terrence” post.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I love this wittle bunny.
:) It makes me smile!
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Aug 18, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Damnit I love that bunny. wreck for overall coolness.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 18, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
and wreck for overall cuteness!
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Aug 19, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Feeling of Dread
anyone else have this feeling in the pit of your stomach that our DB situation will be our demise?
TIllman being out, unhealthy and missing camp, Bowman maybe not lasting more than a couple games, Vasher getting outplayed by even meager receivers, our Undrafted FA looks like the best option right now… not usually a good thing. I thought McBride looked like trash and couldnt tackle either.
i have high hopes for Afalava/Payne, but they probably won’t exceed my expectations either… i dont know, anyone around that can make me feel better about this? or are we all in the same boat here?
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 9:52 AM CDT reply actions
are you talking about tillman's hair?
no, i really don’t think it’s so much of a talent problem. it’s a coaching problem, namely one lovie smith. it seems that he just knows what he was taught by dungy but cannot make any adjustments on his own. you would think that when your CB’s consistently play 7 yards off the WR’s and continue to get beat on slants that it would occur to him that an adjustment is necessary.
with that being said, i’ll still give him a chance. i’m an optimist. maybe he’s smarter than i’m giving him credit for. maybe he’s just showing that same old look in the preseason and will have the CB’s jump that slant route come game one. maybe he has a master plan.
or maybe he really is an idiot, which i suspect may be the case.
so adjust what?
play our corners on the line have them get beat on deep routes? Because our safetys aren’t much help in coverage. With the right players, this system would be great.
I just wonder if, being that Jason David was a great Cover-2 corner for the colts and a terrible man corner for the Saints, have the bears expressed any interest?
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
that
probably shouldn’t have said great cover 2 corner. But he was on the better side of good.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
Brett Favre is gonna be a Viking.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-favrevikescontract081809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
I just heard it on “The Herd” ESPN Radio, Mark Rosen at WCCO in Minn. Was Colin’s source.
Bring it!
I knew this story wasn't going to end.
Good… come back now, and get your ass kicked.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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That's my thoughts exactly SackMan.
I don’t believe I’m in the minority when I say, This makes the season even more interesting.
I heard this morning
on NFL network, that the analysts there widely agree… that Favre, or a QB to be named, is the only thing stopping them from the Superbowl, i absolutely despise the year in, year out, co*k gobbling of the Vikings
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Chris Carter
Said Bret was acting like a spoiled kid because he didn’t want to go to Training Camp. Doesn’t sound like Carter is a big fan of this. ESPN has converter to FavrESPN. I just threw up in my mouth.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 18, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Like I said before... good!
Miss nearly all of training camp +
come to the team late and not have any chemistry +
be a huge distraction +
rub egos with the rest of the team +
try to throw your deep ball with that old crickety arm that just underwent surgery =
Disaster
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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+1
for use of Crickety
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Will be interesting to see
how he gets along with Harvin. Hell, he couldn’t get along with Javon Walker, and he didn’t have half the baggage Harvin brings.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
Ryan Grant
was pretty sick their 13-3 year.
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes he was, but AD is the best running back in the NFL and i doubt if you get many arguments on that.
no arguement
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Thomas Jones
was no slouch last year.
Granted, no one is up there with All Day, but he gets hurt, and likes to fumble as well. If you get a lead on them, they’re going to have to throw, and thats where Favre’s interceptions come in.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
Nope.
He’s an old man, returning from surgery on his throwing arm.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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True
But we shouldn’t underestimate him.He does have a deep threat,a great back,and a top 5 defense
ESPN through a stat up just now
that shows the vikings QBs combined had a better passer rating, the same touchdowns, and less INTs than Favre last season. He’s old, he should be done, but he wants to come embarrass himself again.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
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