Position Battles: Tight End

One Preseason game down and three to go. These games are meaningless as far as wins and loses go, but for the bubble players, the older vets trying to hold off the younger replacement, the new free agent trying to impress, and the rookie looking to make an impression, there are no more important games they'll ever play.
These fringe players need to get on the field as much as possible, not only to impress their coaches, but to get game film for scouts across the league to peruse. Players stuck behind established veterans go into the season knowing the odds for them making the team are slim, so getting reps in the games are so valuable. You can only see so much during training camp and practices. Playing against live competition, that are just as hungry as you, is the best way to determine roster spots.
The Tight End position for the Bears has been very stable the last few seasons. Desmond Clark and Greg Olsen form arguably one the best 1-2 combos in the league. Both are locks to make the final roster. Second year man Kellen Davis and free agent acquisition Michael Gaines are both looking to stick, and so far I don't see either having an obvious advantage over the other.
Kellen Davis is an athletic pass catching TE that should be a better blocker due to his physical attributes alone (6'7" 262 and solid). Former Detroit Lion Michael Gaines (6'2" 267) has been advertised as a better blocker with average hands. A fifth TE, former practice squad player Fontell Mines, has already been ruled out for the season due to injury and may end up an injured reserve.
The Bears need that third TE to be a blocker. Blocking in football is as much technique as it is power. But if you have both, you will have a nice career in the NFL. Losing John Gilmore a couple years ago hurt the short yardage run game. He was technically strong and physically imposing (6'5" 257). You need that nasty blocking TE that will stick his nose in there and work his tail off to get the job done. Olsen will never be that guy. His blocking has, and will continue to improve, but he's paid to catch balls. Clark has made himself into a better than average blocker after playing wide receiver in college at Wake Forest, but when you go double tight, and sometimes 3 tight end sets, you want, check that, need, a guy you can count on to make a key block. Last year the Bears used Kellen Davis in that role, and the signing of Michael Gaines should tell you all you need to know about their comfort level with him as the number three TE. Has Davis improved as a blocker? Last month Tight End coach Rob Boras had a few things to say about him on chicagobears.com;
Like everybody, he's a work in progress. He's getting better. ... We would like him to develop into being a dominant blocker for us, so to be that he’s got to play with better pad level.
At 6'7" I'm sure playing to high has been a problem he's had his entire football life. The hardest thing to teach a tall blocker is to stay low. Davis has a few inches on mostly everyone he's asked to block, so he has to condition his body to get lower through repetition, repetition, and repetition. An NFL TE has to be technically sound, he isn't going to overpower many defenders at this level. Will he put in the work to improve? A knock on Davis out of Michigan State was that he didn't work as hard as he should, it's something that has dogged him in first two years in Chicago, although I have yet to hear about a coach calling him out on his work ethic.
Michael Gaines has the ability to not only line up as a tight end, but to line up in the backfield as a fullback (or H-Back), something we've heard about but didn't see in the Buffalo game. He has versatility and experience over Davis to make the final roster, but Davis has the higher ceiling. If Gaines takes to a special teams role he could have the edge. Last year Davis was a productive member of the third phase, and this year he's been practicing as one of the 2 man wedge on the kick return team.
After just 1 preseason game, with Davis catching 2 for 29 yards and Gaines catching none, there really isn't a clear cut resolution to who has the job. There is an outside chance the Bears keep all four, but that would be at the expense of either a wide receiver or running back (I'll look at the RB position battle on Thursday). I believe Davis will be given at least one more year to show what he can do. If the Bears do go the Gaines route, they can forget about trying to stash Davis on the practice squad, he'll be picked up before he walks out of Halas Hall.
One last aspect to the TE position battle is Greg Olsen being named starter before the players broke a sweat on training camp. Not much of a battle, now was it? Desmond Clark, the true pro that he is, took the demotion in stride, but I don't like the starters being named in the meeting rooms. I prefer them to battle it out between the lines and may the best man win the job. With as many double TE sets the Bears utilize Clark will still see plenty of action, but for a guy that has started 92 of his 94 career games as a Bear, I think showing him the respect of an actual position battle would have made more sense.
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I am pretty sure
I remember reading somewhere the Bears kept 4 TEs last year so I don’t see why they wouldn’t this year. I think we’ll see Gaines in the backfield at some point this preseason.
by Sam Householder on Aug 18, 2009 11:22 AM CDT reply actions
Last year they only kept 4
If they keep 4 TE’s, they will have to drop to only 5 WR’s, or 3 RB’s, or even just 2 QB’s. Even if they cut down on those roster spots, I think they’ll use the extra space for another defensive back or defensive linemen to account for Tillman and Harris.
by Mike Mueller on Aug 18, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Well I stand corrected
Then it probably will be Olsen, Clark and Davis. (Three of the plainest names on the Bears roster)
by Sam Householder on Aug 18, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Bazanett looks to be the odd man out with Hanie developing nicely. That said, the Vikings won’t carry 4 QB’s. Who do you guys see as the odd man out there? That might be worth keeping an eye on.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Keep all 4? Cut the little guy. Wolfe.
Keep Peterson as your third RB. Davis is a pretty solid special teams player. Plus he’s huge Wolfe is just too small and hasn’t proved much. Wasted pick by JA.
Wolfe is actually proving to be a very good special teams player.
Often in the right spot at the right time.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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yeah I know it's an interesting debate because he hasn't done very well at RB.
If he makes the team he would be the 3rd running back I guess. Thats what kinda bothers me, now I don’t know if the Bears have put Wolfe in the best designed plays for his skills but he clearly gets mashed when he’s in the game getting the ball. I agree he is a really good special teams player but I think you can afford to cut him. Then again i didn’t really understand the Gains signing when the Bears are pretty stacked at TE. I don’t know. Can they cut Gains then?
We brought Gaines in for quality competition.
So, there’s a good battle going on now. We needed more blocking from the 3rd TE in our short yardage package, as Davis didn’t succeed last year (see the FB dive for reference).
Don’t know who’s gonna make it, but I know Turner sure as hell places a high value on blocking in short yardage. And I know Cutler places a high value on big receiving targets.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I'd rather cut Peterson
Wolfe’s outshone him in STs and has the chance to be a sparkplug on offense.
Based on the fact that Peterson saw most of his playing time in the second half
and wolf was occasionally used in the second qt i think that sends a fairly clear message. Peterson’s the likely cut if they go that route.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
you guys are leading me into
Thursdays post…
Position Battles: Running Backs
See you all then!
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 18, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
peterson is out the door...
been saying this since way back when… i don’t necessarily agree, but again, it’s not a press conference without one of the coaches, or JA mentioning wolfe. plus, the re-emergence of jones, a once exremely effective “between the tackles” RB(similar running styles) is killing any chance he had to make the team.
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Aug 18, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I like Peterson
I think he’s been a hell of a back-up/ST guy and a good team player, but I think he may be at the end of the road in Chicago. He’s become barely adequate as a back-up, and he doesn’t seem to ever break big plays anymore. It’s been a nice run, but I think it’s time to let him go.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
Cut Peterson or Basanez, or someone else
Wolfe is a very outstanding player on ST and exceptionally fast and agile. He has also shown great progression as I saw him lower his shoulder and get a few extra yards on his carries @ Buffalo. Wolfe can be a difference maker. Basanez has been pretty reckless and sucky, and I guess they could go with only 2 QB (God forbid Cutler gets injured badly or something). Also, they could cut someone else which is less valuable.
by GriggsBriggs on Aug 18, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
oh..
One last aspect to the TE position battle is Greg Olsen being named starter before the players broke a sweat on training camp. Not much of a battle, now was it? Desmond Clark, the true pro that he is, took the demotion in stride, but I don’t like the starters being named in the meeting rooms. I prefer them to battle it out between the lines and may the best man win the job. With as many double TE sets the Bears utilize Clark will still see plenty of action, but for a guy that has started 92 of his 94 career games as a Bear, I think showing him the respect of an actual position battle would have made more sense.
Lets just say this everyone knows that Cutler to Olsen will be a staple in the Bears offense for years to come. He’s younger and is the Bears TE of the future thats why they took him with their number one pick. Clark will play a big role whether he starts or not. This is a non issue to me.
true, it's not a big deal...
I’ve always believed you don’t name starters until you see them on the field. Mark Anderson was promoted over Alex Brown in ’07, without earning it.
I’m sure Olsen would have earned it. His blocking is getting better and he’s clearly the better playmaker. Just wait a few weeks and let it play itself out. Had they done that with Anderson he never would hav etook over at DE. He makes to many mistakes, and he still does.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 18, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh...
I’m sorry but regardless of what has happened since then you can’t say that Mark Anderson didn’t earn that promotion, I think it probably had something to do with those 12 sacks he had the year before.
those 12 sacks were nice as a part time player
but look at the body of work…
Alex Brown is a better football player, during the ’07 season I lost count on how many times Anderson lost contain and let a back or QB get outside… he still has the same problem as he did it in the preseason game at Buffalo.
Coming in only on passing downs is a lot easier than starting at DE. Anderson had the advantage of surprise over teams as a rookie, once teams had a year of film on him and knew he had one move, his numbers went down.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 19, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Didn't Alex Brown also get named as a Pro Bowl alternate that year?
It’s not like Anderson played great and Brown had a down year. I agree with you that Anderson should never have been given the starter’s job before camp began.
Kellen Davis,
played all 16 games his rookie year. I’m pretty sure that means that he can’t be put on the practice squad. He has a ton of upside so I hope they keep and continue to develop him.
I like Gaines if he is as versatile as advertised, great blocking TE on 3rd and short, decent hands, and can play FB. We’ll see. To make it work I think that we would have to cut Jason Davis, Brett Basanez, and Garrett Wolfe.
Me too.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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i like this kid too...
no matter where he ends up playing, i’ll be keeping an eye on him. first pre-season game or not, starters riding pine… whatever. he showed his will and determination to me on saturday… he’s hungry, and he LOVES the game… it shows!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Aug 18, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
If they decide to keep only 3 TE
I will want to go with Davis over Gaines based off the upside. I think with more teaching from the coaches he can become a better blocker. At the end of the day though I think that they will keep 3 RB’s 6 WR’s and 4 TE’s
by Dominique Blanton on Aug 18, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions
Trade Desmond Clark
While you can get some value for the old man.
Des Clark and Nate Vasher for Brandon Marshall. (In JA’s dreams, I know!)
Trade him for whatever you can get.
Our TEs should be Olsen, Davis, Gaines. Davis is a BEAST and should start NOW.
"We can do it any way you want to. We can go right out back and get it on or you can shape your ass up."
Also, as far as qb
The Bears third QB will be Tarvaris Jackson. He will be cut by Minny now, and he’s 100 yards better than Bassanez.
"We can do it any way you want to. We can go right out back and get it on or you can shape your ass up."
Lets think about this for a second
and pretend we are MN Management, we have Tjack, Sage Rosefels, and John David Booty to cut (Favre is not in the picture obviously)
and you’d cut TJack over JDB?
If you want to crown em...
by JohnnyTruant on Aug 18, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
booty can't even hold on to his number...
no way he holds on to his job!!!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Aug 18, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
No, Childress won't cut him.
He’s got to much of a stake in him taking him so high. He’s already on the hot seat, and I don’t think he wants to add any more fuel by admitting he was wrong.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
i guess we'll see on friday...
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Aug 19, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions

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