Favre to Sign with the Queens
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 18, 2009 10:36 AM CDT
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Who didn't see this coming?
Reports are now flying around that Farve is on his way or has landed in Minnesota and is suppose to sign with the Vikes today. Link
via www.minnpost.com
ESPN Sports Center has reported that he has landed and more news should be out later today. Again I'm not shocked that Favre lied about wanting to stay retired and wants to play again. We've beaten to death everything about him but here it is again. Favre might be in the NFC North once again. Well let me be the first to welcome you back Bret, I hope you continue to add to your interception total.
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I knew it...
As soon as the guy said he was retired, I knew it was a ruse to just avoid training camp. He’s an old guy and the Vikings wanted him that badly that they probably told Favre that he could miss training camp and still play QB for the vikings. This will be interesting when the bears get a chance at him.
I think he'll help them.
With that offensive line and the the speed burners they have PLUS the best running back in the NFL. They’ll be tough. This is how I see a Favre NFC North playing out.
1. Vikings – Pretty much stacked.
2. Packers – On the rise
3. Bears – Have too many leaks
4. Loins – bad.
This is exactly what i'm talking about
the mindless following, year after year, of the Vikings
Brett Favre does not have the magic ability to Carry this team above 10-6 this year.
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Brett Favre does not have the magic ability to Carry this team above 10-6 this year.
Neither does Cutler.
"Call it the three B's. What a Blatant, Brazen and Brilliant ploy to skip training camp and still be given the reins to a Super Bowl-caliber team." - Kevin Seifert
Brett Favre proves he is a total piece of garbage.
by TheViking83 on Aug 18, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
i have been over here
a number of times exchanging banter with you fine folks. I see this as no different than you guys coming over to DN, spouting off a bit, then retreating.
I am not defending Brett Favre one iota. I HATE the guy. I just think that if you are going to accuse Vikings fans of “blind optimism” you should check your own when it pertains to Cutler.
That’s all.
"Call it the three B's. What a Blatant, Brazen and Brilliant ploy to skip training camp and still be given the reins to a Super Bowl-caliber team." - Kevin Seifert
Brett Favre proves he is a total piece of garbage.
by TheViking83 on Aug 18, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I disagree...
Us Bears fans can have blind optimisim because we can have Cutler for the next 10 years, so even if we pull a Detroit Lions this year and go 0-16 we don’t have to worry because we still have time to build around Cutler.
On the other hand the Vikings aren’t getting more than 1 year out of Favre so you guys can’t afford to screw up this season.
I think what he said pertains well...
We’re optimistic, despite a number of flaws. We’re being hypocritical when we criticize others for optimism.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I DIDNT CRITICIZE HIM
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm speaking in general.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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as was I
which generated this attack on my post about Favre not carrying them above 10-6.
something about “nahnee-nahnee-boo-boo” neither will Cutler.
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
i wasn’t directing the blind optimism at Vikings fans, it’s all the analysts that year after year, call it that the Vikings, or Cowboys, are superbowl bound…
and now it’ll repeat this year. Best of luck, as i said over at your site earlier, it should be a helluva season.
so maybe you misread, or read too much into my statement, and made a vast assumption without reading my other posts… never once did i say the mindless following was from the fans…
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
it’s all the analysts that year after year, call it that the Vikings, or Cowboys, are superbowl bound…
I hear ya, BN. Nobody hates those guys more than me. And I’m sorry for taking what you said out of context. I just think its silly to assume that the addition of Cutler OR Favre instantly propels our teams to Super Bowl talks. Cutler has shown flashes, but is far from a “sure thing” and Favre……. well, let’s just say I don’t think too highly of a guy is consistently in the top 5 of the league in INT’s.
It’s going to take a well-rounded effort from both of our teams in order to get to the big one. It’s definitely not all about our new starting QB’s (but don’t tell ESPN that…).
Here’s something we can both toast a beer over though…
Screw the Packers!! HA! :)
"Call it the three B's. What a Blatant, Brazen and Brilliant ploy to skip training camp and still be given the reins to a Super Bowl-caliber team." - Kevin Seifert
Brett Favre proves he is a total piece of garbage.
my bad for going off on you also
your one of the few intelligent fans the reason us bears fans are so giddy about cutler is come on man have you see our qbs!?!?!?!? lol its nice to have a guy that we know can sling it around not just this year but for many.and i couldnt agree with everyone any more does cutler help us? helll yea!!! are we super bowl ready? noot quite we need to see who can step to catch passes other then devin and olsen and if that defense we have cant stop the pass were gonna be in alot of 27-24 games
by Bear Lovin 21 on Aug 18, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it’s an interesting perspective—One that is unique for Bears fans considering our past experiences with QB’s. You can’t blame us for what is our first real relationship in a long time. That being said, I think many of us know the cynicism that can align the false hopes on the QB position. Rex Grossman is our false prophet!
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
i still love the guy
he gave us one year and atleast you can tell all the dallas fans rex has 2 playoffs wins over romo!!
by Bear Lovin 21 on Aug 18, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
he didn't say cutler could
so argue his actual point.
he didn’t say cutler could so argue his actual point.
Not that I am trying to ruffle feathers, or keep going on with this topic… but I think the simple act of reading WCG over the past 2 months is enough proof of Bears fans’ overinflated Cutler optimism.
Just like there is a ton of overinflated Favre optimism at DN. (Don’t even get me started on REVENGE4FAVRE…. can’t stand the guy) At this point, I think its unmerited from either side.
"Call it the three B's. What a Blatant, Brazen and Brilliant ploy to skip training camp and still be given the reins to a Super Bowl-caliber team." - Kevin Seifert
Brett Favre proves he is a total piece of garbage.
Cutler is better than Orton, yes?
We can agree on that.
So how does Cutler not improve us as a team?
Just because your stuck with a 40 year old with a bum shoulder doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be optimisitc. If anyone has a reason to, it’s us.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
Cutler is an upgrade
He definitely does. He’ll help Forte out, he’ll make the receivers better, and he’s going to make Olsen a Pro Bowl TE this year. He is a definite upgrade. It almost makes me upset when people say he isn’t because you know the only reason they say that is because a) they don’t like the Bears, b) they don’t like Cutler.
by packallday555 on Aug 19, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
the bears have had shit quarter backs since, what 1985?
they finall yget a QB that is good and trolls rain on our parade. Yes we are optimistic. Culter is still young. Favre is not.. It seems to be 1) desparate attempt at the playoff or 2) a way to get the pack fan base steaming
by Rhymenocerous on Aug 18, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Excellent Name!!!
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not blinded with optimism
I think Favre makes the Vikes one game better, which can very easily be the difference between going to the playoffs and not. Cutler probably does the same, so it’s up to the Bears defense to make up the difference. With that said, the Vikes should be considered favorites on paper at least.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Most inteligent post of your life
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
intelligent
has two l’s.
"Call it the three B's. What a Blatant, Brazen and Brilliant ploy to skip training camp and still be given the reins to a Super Bowl-caliber team." - Kevin Seifert
Brett Favre proves he is a total piece of garbage.
by TheViking83 on Aug 18, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
It is very nice
to have my own personal assistant, who spell checks for me
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
meh
I wouldn’t have said anything if it hadn’t been the word, “intelligent”, haha. Not hatin’.
"Call it the three B's. What a Blatant, Brazen and Brilliant ploy to skip training camp and still be given the reins to a Super Bowl-caliber team." - Kevin Seifert
Brett Favre proves he is a total piece of garbage.
Look at Favre's numbers last year.
He had more interceptions than the combo of Frerotte and Tarvaris, a lower QB rating, and the same amount of TDs.
Now he’s a year older, AND coming off shoulder surgery.
Meanwhile, you can’t argue that Cutler doesnt bring enough of an improvement over Orton and Grossman that we can’t win 2 more games.
Your reaction is simply “Don’t talk about my brand new QB even though he hasnt even passed a physical yet or i’ll get defensive and make a ridiculous statement.”
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
He played for the Jets
Now he’s moving into an offense that he knows everything about. I think that makes a big difference – don’t you?
He knows everything about it?
He’s still learning terminology, timing with receivers, any of the wildcat harvin plays. This is far from him coming back to play a year with the packers. Make no mistake, this might be a familiar offense, but it isnt one he knows inside and out.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
“He played for the Jets.”
And your point is??? The Jets had a very good team last year. They had statistically the 4th best defense in the league. A good RB duo, with Jones and Washington. (And don’t say the only reason they were good was Favre. They picked up two all-pro o-lineman in the offseason.) They had a good WR core, with Coles, Cotchery, and Keller. They had a very well rounded team.
You guys have probably the 3rd best defense in the league. A great RB core. Mediocore WR core. Notice the similarities? You guys are slighty more talented then the Jets were last season. Another big difference is, they had a healthy Favre for 8-9 games, who hadn’t undergone major surgery and didn’t have a partially torn rotator cuff. The odds are against Favre lasting the whole season, and if he indeed goes down is Sage going to come in and lead you to the SB? I don’t think so.
There are many concerns and questions for Favre. Don’t automatically assume he is going to be healthy and good for the whole year. After all this is the same guy who just 3 weeks ago was saying, “He didn’t think his body could hold up for a whole season.”
by packallday555 on Aug 19, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I am not stirring the pot
and I am CERTAINLY not defending Brett Favre. If you knew anything about me, you’d know I’m the last person on the planet who wants Hewhoshallnotbenamed as the Vikings QB.
Sorry to disappoint you “EricEmpire”.
"Call it the three B's. What a Blatant, Brazen and Brilliant ploy to skip training camp and still be given the reins to a Super Bowl-caliber team." - Kevin Seifert
Brett Favre proves he is a total piece of garbage.
I'd believe you
If it wasn’t for the immediate “neither can your QB neener neener” reply.
Had we won just one more game we would’ve been in the playoffs. Cutler certainly improves us by at least 2 games. So how can you make that reply and then say you’re not full of it?
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
actually
you would have needed to win 2 more games, or have had the Vikings lose 1 more game.
I don’t exactly get what you mean by saying “I’m full of it.”
Somebody earlier made a post stating that the Vikings are now stacked (I don’t believe they are any better with Favre). In response to that, someone else said,
This is exactly what i’m talking about the mindless following, year after year, of the Vikings
Brett Favre does not have the magic ability to Carry this team above 10-6 this year.
I simply said that while Favre doesn’t have the magical ability to carry the Vikings above 10-6, I don’t believe Cutler has the magical ability to carry the Bears above 9-7 either. I feel that your defense is very suspect and will cause problems that Cutler, obviously, can’t help.
If all of that makes me “full of it” then I guess I’m up to my forehead with “it”.
"Call it the three B's. What a Blatant, Brazen and Brilliant ploy to skip training camp and still be given the reins to a Super Bowl-caliber team." - Kevin Seifert
Brett Favre proves he is a total piece of garbage.
Cutler certainly improves us by at least 2 games.
That is where our opinions differ, and where my statement that Bears fans have “blind optimism” in Cutler comes from. I have never once stated (and will continue to not state) that Favre makes the Vikings ANY better.
"Call it the three B's. What a Blatant, Brazen and Brilliant ploy to skip training camp and still be given the reins to a Super Bowl-caliber team." - Kevin Seifert
Brett Favre proves he is a total piece of garbage.
says who you? ha!
he led his team to 8-5 last year but his defense fell apart you take the 39 yr old over the 26 yr old? ha good luck go ahead and say t jack is the second coming of randall cunninghamlol
hell lead you to 10-6 at best(if that shoulder holds up)
by Bear Lovin 21 on Aug 18, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Packers on the rise this year?
Even with them switching to a 3-4?
After this year, yeah, they’re on the rise.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
AP
I don’t think AP is going to have a particularly strong year. Especially not if the gunslinger is stealing his rushing attempts from him. Dunno why, gut feeling. I hope it’s right.
LOL
@ packers on the rise.
Lions will do better than the Pack this year. take it to the bank! ha
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
whoa cowboy...
I hate the Packers as much as anyone, but I doubt they will be worse than Detroit this year.
Detroit is on the rise, but that is only because you can’t have a negative number of wins in the NFL.
I personally see the division breaking out like this.
1. Bears 11-5 (Div. Champs)
2. Vikings 10-6 (Wild Card)
3. Packers 8-8
4. Lions 6-10
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Aug 18, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
i hoped nobody took it serious. but in hating GB, i certainly root for Detroit against Vikes/Pack
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 19, 2009 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to see what happens
after he’s put on the surface in Minny a few times, and lands on that rebuilt arm. It’s not exactly forgiving to those who are old and slow.
Guess we'll have to see if his shoulder holds up
If it does, the Vikings might the favorites in the division, now
I aint scurred! Bring it old man!
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
Like I said... I AINT SCURRED!
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
If you want a good laugh
Go over to Daily Norseman. They’re losing it over there.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
i see your favre
and raise you a plax.
ya know who is that go up there and get it kind of guy…PLAX
lets nudge this favreh into permanent retirement. i Hate that photo of him with his hand on Urlacher after they beat us. . I wait with great enthusiasm for Brian to make a new and very different kind of Kodak moment.
what about the one
when he was sacked, and got up, turned around and grimaced… thats a good one to frame, although i think is was Brown who got him on that one
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 18, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
So?
This move does not scare me at all. If there is one thing we learned from Favre last year, it is he will turn the ball over and is too old to perform well down the stretch. I see this move as a wasted year for the Vikings. They won’t win the SB, and next year won’t have TJ (their ‘future’) either.
Unless, which QB do they cut now? Booty or TJ? I think Sage is actually safe though. Everyone trusts him as a back up but not as a starter.
If they cut Sage, then yes. I want TJ no where near a Bears’ locker room. Booty has never been given a chance so who knows.
No on Booty...
Kyle Orton has a canon compared to this guy.
And can you imagine
the ungodly amount of stupid “Booty” puns we’ll be bombarded with if he ever plays? I’ve had to hear enough bad “Cadillac” references down here in Tampa to make me want to drive a pencil through my ear.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
ouch...
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Aug 18, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I read somewhere that the packers would be interested in TJack for the sole purpose of gaining knowledge of the Vikings gameplan
by Loki The Viking God on Aug 18, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
so
after seeing our awesome secondary the last two years, not one person here should be excited about this.
Uh
Our bad secondary was on field last year when we beat Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees…and they were all better than Favre last year and will be better than him this year.
yeah
it was also on the field when aaron rodgers destroyed them the first time, the vikings destroyed them the second time, brian griese going for 400 and houston ending they’re playoff chances. are those guys better than favre too? how about just admiting this is the secondary that a mediocre team puts out instead of pointing to one legit win and two lucky as f ones as a sign.
You could argue
That our offense beat Drew Brees and Rodgers (the second time).
by Sam Householder on Aug 18, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Our offense and ST may have won it, but our defense didn’t lose it.
Yea Aaron Rodgers destroyed us. Ya know what, Aaron Rodgers is good. The 99 yard play against the Vikings was an example of our D losing a game for us. The Houston game was a combo of all sides of the ball not performing but I would like to challenge any team to defend Andre Johnson. All I am saying is that our seconday is good enough to keep us in games if our Offense and ST can win them
Right
They were also on the field when they missed the playoffs. I agree with Mike B – you shouldn’t be happy about this.
Why does this make me a troll?
Seriously? Am I wrong – does it not have merit? I’m just defending our new starting quarterback – that’s all. You guys blame everything that is not for you but against you on trolls. Get over yourselves.
I got this one, Mike!
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
No problem
I don’t really see an issue with it, but I’m in a generally happy mood today.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Come on dude... you're giving us a bad name.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
What?!?
You’re right and so is Figgs. I guess I didn’t think that he was just out and about today, and just happened to stumble over here at WCG. There’s just no way that he purposefully came to WCG looking for a thread on Favre, no way at all. And then he automatically posted something negative with his first comment. How could anyone think that was a bit trollish? How dare me!
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Fans of other teams should be welcome here... even our rivals.
That’s the fun of having rivals… you get to talk smack.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Okay?
And you still have yet to explain how he wasn’t trolling, or how I am giving us a bad name. I’m all for “talking smack,” but purposefully coming to a site, looking for a specific thread and posting a negative comment right off is a trolls work, no matter how you dissect it. I don’t want him banned, not asking for that at all. But I don’t mind calling him, or anyone else, out for it.
I respect you SackMan, but you’re way off on this one.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I read this site all the time....
I like your discussions – so I chime in on something relevant because I happen to LOVE the Vikings, and I’m lambasted for it. Again, give me a break…. it wasn’t negative either for goodness sakes. I’m not saying this to be a prick either, but what I said is nothing but TRUE.
This reads prick! Just so you know.
They were also on the field when they missed the playoffs.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Being pissed at my comment....
And calling me a troll are two different things. I can deal with you not liking my comment, but screaming “troll” in flipping ridiculous.
I'm not pissed at your comment, I nothing your comment.
You say you’re not trolling… I personally disagree. When you come over to WCG and have at least one respectful discussion, then I will change my mind about you. Until then, keep spewing your “facts” and I will continue to have the same opinion of you.
And for the record, I don’t think this should be one big happy place, where all of us get along all of the time. But when negative comments like the one above, are all that you contribute, then…
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
You totally contradict yourself
I’m not contributing to making this “one big happy place”, I stated a fact s on a thread entitled “Favre to Sign with the Queens”. You nothing my comment is a joke and a cop out.
Continue to disagree. A troll wouldn’t come over here and have this out with you – they would post and bail. Keep posting your pretty little pictures and getting your rocks off calling people trolls.
Obviously going nowhere...
This fact (as you call it) was a slap in the face attempt for us missing the playoffs last year. I could care less about your original comment, but it does deserve recognition for what it was.
Moving on…
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree - going nowhere
But just for the record, a fact is defined as: a piece of information about circumstances that exist or events that have occurred.
So the fact as I call it, is indeed just that, a fact.
Thanks, here's another fact to chew on!
You now have the the QB that led the league in interceptions and the RB who led the league in fumbles in 2008. Congrats, hope you enjoy that combination!
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
And by the way...
This comment I posted above is a slap in the face type comment. Albeit a fact, not something I would walk into your “house,” and start screaming out. That is my point.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
But you said it
This isn’t one big happy place, so it is OK.
I suppose the FACT that we sat atop the division
With that running back with the most fumbles last season, combined with the FACT that we now have (and even you can’t disagree with this) a better quarterback than we did last year, has me feeling pretty stinking comfortable. Nice try though – not even you and your ugly pictures and calling me a troll could ruin this day.
ARE YOU KIDDING
YOU CAN ARGUE IT! The numbers clearly show that the 2 QBs the vikings had last year were better than Favre was in New York. Now he’s a year older and has to learn new receivers.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
In NY is the key there
He was familiar with this offense before he inked the deal today.
well
at least you changed your tune from the comment you posted to me earlier about him knowing it “inside and out.” Yeah, he can be familiar with this offense, but how well does he know the receivers? How about how he alienated the entire team in NY? Have you seen how mad Cris Carter is about this? Now imagine how your locker room feels.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
Smudgers is right
You’re a troll. You just wanted to come here and pop off “FAVRE FAVRE FAVRE”
You’re not here to provide any insight or argument, you just keep spouting off “FAMILIAR OFFENSE!” Either have something to say that’s logical or go bother the packer fans.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
Just got finished...
…having this conversation – I’m not having it again.
Then add something to the conversation
Tell me why this makes your team better.
You certainly didn’t need the added INTs. You didn’t need a slow immobile QB in your pocket. You didn’t need a guy who wants to heave the ball to take carries out of AD’s hands. So what does this do for your team besides anger teammates and increase your turnovers?
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
You're delusional
If you think he’s not better than T-Jack and Rosencopter. We DO need someone to take the ball out of ADs hands because every defense is expecting him to get the ball every play. Now with Favre, it’s just one more element for a defense to be worried about.
I’m not going to argue about INTs because he hasn’t thrown them yet for the Vikings. Slow and immoble doesn’t mean much when you sense the blitz and get rid of the ball lightning quick.
The only people it is going to make angry is T-Jack and Rosencopter. Honestly, not too concerned about them – I’m concerned about winning, which we will do.
Really? Missing camp
and the only ones mad are going to be the QBs??
Doubtful.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
At 40, is he better than
a QB who was drafted to this system and one who went to camp to learn it?
I don’t think so. I see a long painful lesson for Favre this year at the expense of a team that could’ve competed.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
If he is that bad
He’ll get pulled. And then it will be back to the way it was before he signed. That WON’T happen, but just so you can wrap your angry little head around it.
And the "little" wasn't meant to be insulting
I should have left that word out. I feel like I have to defend myself…. I don’t know if you’ve heard, but I’ve been accused of being a troll around here.
haha
that’s fine. But you really think Childress will bench the 12 million dollar man?
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
Yup
He’s got the gall. He doesn’t care what anybody thinks – he’s proven it time and time again.
Haha your wrong here
Chilly would NEVER bench Favre. You don’t give someone 12 million and the bench them. That’s the quickest way too lose your job. Especially in Chilly’s case since he was the one who wanted Favre so bad.
by packallday555 on Aug 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Have a couple more conversations like this, and we’re cool. Hell, build up your rapport, and come back and talk all the crap you want. My only issue was how you came out of the gate swinging, that’s all.
Now that’s over, I agree with you. Favre is by far better than any other QB on your roster. He’s always found a way to keep plays alive and is one of the greatest to ever play the game. I think he’s going to be a huge upgrade to your offense, but I do think he’ll cost you some games as well with his untimely picks. I also think that taking the ball out of Peterson’s hands is both good and bad.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Once EricEmpire...
has some time to realize what should be terribly obvious, he’ll come around and agree about Favre too.
I see what you mean about AD, the thought is that it will be more effective when he does get it, albeit he’ll likely be getting it less.
Didn’t mean to come out swinging….. didn’t really know how to come out – just said what I was thinking.
There is no way
that i’ll ever admit that Favre, at age 40, after last season, fresh off shoulder surgery, without a single camp with this system or receivers, or TEAM, is a better option than anyone. If he makes it 17 weeks without an excuse, I’ll send you a box of choclates to apologize.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
and yes
i know its chocolates. Its hard to spell check rage.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
What will you send me if he makes it
21 weeks…. you know, with winning the Super Bowl and all?
Just make sure it has a high resolution
I want to turn it into a T-Shirt
Don't forget
Sorry to chime in, but I’m watching the Favre conference and he said he has a tear in his rotator-cuff. Favre mentioned Dr. Andrews said he probably has played with it awhile cause there’s calcium build-up around it. At 40 things will undoubtedly change physically, so this could be a foreshadow of things to come.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
EE has his own opinion on Favre, just as all of us do. And I can see his side.
Favre is getting up there in age. He’s always at risk to throw an interception. He has led your team on this summer, thus alienating some teammates. He is going to try to QB a very good team, and the Vikings are very good, without even going to camp. He has some valid gripes on the guy.
I’m a half glass full guy, so I see more of the upside to the Favre signing. Although, I wouldn’t be that surprised if it didn’t turn out as EE predicts.
Peterson will be fresher, which will be good for his production and his career. All I know, as a Bears fan, it will make me happy when the games aren’t put solely on his shoulders. He’s proven time and time again, to be worthy of such task.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't stand him but I do think he's an upgrade over what they've got now.
That’s assuming he adjusts to the system and doesn’t but heads with Childress (or anyone else). Favre doesn’t deal well with being told what to do or with any criticism, and BC strikes me as being a bit of a micro-manager. I think the whole situation could end up blowing up in their faces. If not, I think it helps them. Though off the top of my head, I can’t think of any one-year-rental qbs that got a team to the big game.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
He came to talk about Favre. It's the topic of the day.
That’s not trolling in my book.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Perhaps negative to you...
…But nevertheless a FACT. Not an opinion, not a dig, just a fact. And it was a REPLY to something that I disagree with, especially Aaron Rodgers.
why does everybody say "he played in this offense"
i thought he played for the Packers and not the Vikings. I understand if they are similar playbooks/schemes, but oh not THE SAME OFFENSE. by being two different teams they are inherently more different then they are similar.
Haha
Ladies and gentlemen of Chicago…I now introduce to you… Matt Jones? Hopefully
That would be the right thing to do
but we as fans can’t always count on the Bears brass to make the correct decisions.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Do you think this move
necessitates a move by the Bears, namely at the WR position? I’m more concerned about everyone passing on us, then are ability to pass.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
I’ve wanted them to go after Matt Jones for awhile now. It was more than apparent that our passing will suffer without Olsen.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I’m a big Matt Jones fan and would like to see that addition, a lot. I feel like the front office will never make that move though, and would rather continue to spit the same garbage at us…. That being said, I think everything rests on our defense though, and specifically getting to the quarterback.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
But Jones is a converted WR.
I just don’t see our coaching staff wanting somone to play out of their natural position. It would not fit their pattern whatsoever.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
Uh
Uh did you see his stats last year with Garrard throwing to him on a team with no pass protection? I think he is now a natural WR after a few years of practice.
That was sarcasm guy.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
+1
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 19, 2009 2:29 AM CDT up reply actions
quote
“He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue.”
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
That's the Chicago Way
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 19, 2009 2:31 AM CDT up reply actions
i hope the Bears D can make him regret the decision
//checks calendar circles November 29th and December 28th.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
Anyone remember
That historically Favre was known to lose in domes? I think at one point he had a losing record in Minney (I don’t know where to find stats to back this up, sorry!). Maybe that will continue. I have a hard time imagining a 39 year old guy being able to take the beating of another full NFL season.
by Sam Householder on Aug 18, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions
www.profootballreference.com
and as Brett got older his indoor record became phenomenal while his outdoor record started to slip.
"Call it the three B's. What a Blatant, Brazen and Brilliant ploy to skip training camp and still be given the reins to a Super Bowl-caliber team." - Kevin Seifert
Brett Favre proves he is a total piece of garbage.
by TheViking83 on Aug 18, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
It's cause his old bones doesn't like the cold!
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
HAHA!!!
I said the same thing! “The frigid temps get his arthritis flaring up”
"Call it the three B's. What a Blatant, Brazen and Brilliant ploy to skip training camp and still be given the reins to a Super Bowl-caliber team." - Kevin Seifert
Brett Favre proves he is a total piece of garbage.
Hooray!!!!
Can’t wait to go up against a 57 year old quarterback. Should be fun!
by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 18, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions
All I know is....
Old Favre > Vikings QB’s
Ok I have revised my rankings after watching the fist quarter of the Bears preseason game.
1. Bears
2. Vikings
3. Pack
4. Lions
I got swept up with John Clayton’s review of the NFC North. Go Bears!
Signing Favre..
is going to be the downfall of Childress. If Favre fails, so does Chilly, and being in Minnesota myself, I want Chilly to be their coach for A LONG TIME!
Egomanics don’t usually succeed together, and a Favre/Childress marriage is just what the Bears need to become the elite team in our division.
Seperation in the ranks will equal a long season for DA QUEENS!
Bear Down!
???
How does the dissention of one team help another? The Bears can still be mediocre on defense and offense no matter what happens up north.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Because...
…there will be/is a media circus in MN now. All of those distractions on one team will distract them from focusing on just playing and winning games.
Favre is going to try his hardest to win the SB, and when he tries to take it on himself, he will throw 14-20 INTs this year. That can only hurt MN, thus helping the Bears.
I disagree
The Vikes are pretty well stacked at every position. To deny that they don’t have the talent, mental-make-up, and leadership to overcome the impending media circus is a colossal underestimation.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I don't think their run defense is going to be as stout this year.
Pat Williams will turn 37 years old in October.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Yes, he's certainly old.
He’s only in there on 2nd and 3rd downs, and he’s not the only reason they stop the run.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
He's a large reason for their success against the run
No pun intended… well… yeah… maybe it was:)
So, I think their line is transforming to a better pass rushing unit with K Williams and J Allen, but not the dominant run stuffing unit it was in the past.
Also, their secondary has given up a lot of passing yards in recent years, because teams elected to throw against them, instead of running into that wall. Now, I think opposing offenses will be able to put out a more balanced attack vs their D.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Check their stats
They’ve been #1 against the run the past three years. How is that "not the dominant run stuffing unit it was in the past?
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I think you misread my post.
What I sad was I think that they are transforming to a line that rushes the passer better, but will not stop the run as well as they have in the past. The past = the last 3 or 4 years, when their run defense was dominant. Pat Williams, the key to the run D, is 37 years old. They’re not gonna be a top run D for much longer.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Well-rounded defense
I don’t necessarily think they’re going to get worse at stopping the run. They definitely have added the ability to rush the passer with Allen.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I tend to believe that Pat Williams is the SOLE key to their run D.
In much the very same way that Ted Washington was the key to our run D, when we were dominant. When Washington was hurt in 2002, our run D was nowhere near the same, even though we still had Traylor. And, when we traded him away, we had a lot of trouble stopping the run.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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The anchor
certainly is the most important, but it still takes a team effort from all 11 players.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I predict...
9 games… 8 TDs… 14 INTs…
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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he’ll only play 9 games, or after nine games?
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
He'll only play 9.
He won’t survive the first 8 games without an injury… especially playing the Packers twice in the first half, and the Steelers and Ravens in back to back in weeks 6 & 7.
Then, he’ll come back after the bye and get knocked out again… hopefully in week 12, by the Bears :)
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I used to like and respect him
Now he’s just a pathological liar.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I'm excited about the chilly welcome he gets on Nov 1
when Minny visits GB. I bet they boo him.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
The news in MN is...
that the team and players knew all along that Favre was coming, and were told not to say a word to any media outlets.
I work right down the intersteate from Winter Park and there are cars and fans all lined up to see the guy who said he wasn’t going to play for them just weeks before.
His own ego will not let himself walk away, and his legacy will no longerbe a legacy, but a complete and utter joke to the NFL.
Yeah
Who’s the bigger drama queen? Favre or Cutler? I think we all know the answer to this one.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I wonder if you could really get that many people not to leak the story...
Kinda doubt it. Maybe the front office, but not everybody.
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
Hollywood Favre?
Maybe Favre just wants an excuse to move to LA? He’ll get the opportunity if he stays with the Vikings 2 years.
Sorry buddy
But ticket sales are already on their way up! Staying in Minnesota…. sorry to burst your bubble.
I believe that.
I’m thinking of trying to get Bears/Viking tickets for Dec 28th I doubt i can thats a MNF game i think.
Can't we all just get along...
and celebrate the fact that this has to be just killing the rank and file Packer fans to see their beloved turn to a division rival????
Anything that makes Packer Nation upset makes me happy!!!!!
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
Excellent angle
Yet another thing to be happy about today!
This makes me happy.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 18, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
ah...
the ol’ “ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND”, eh??? well, i’ve lived eh, slowly died there and there is nothing that i like about minnesota!!! well, ok, the women, and MAYBE lake cally
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
Am I the only one
who doesn’t believe it yet? If he’s in uniform on 13 Sept, I’ll believe it. Until then, he’s just one more tearful press conference away from being retired. Call me opening day, then maybe I’ll care.
PS – John Kerry wants his flip-flopper title back…
Well, considering he’s now on the front page of Vikings.com…
Yeah, it’s a done deal.
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
by Robert Rence on Aug 18, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
He's already on the practice field.
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
He's making copies in my office!!!!
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 18, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
He's in your cooker warming his butt in your noms!
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
LOL
I laughed out loud when I saw this. Unexpected – yet perfect timing. Lol.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Aug 21, 2009 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Favre is an upgrade over the others,
but isn’t a Pro Bowl caliber QB anymore. The key is, can he make the Vikes better? Of course he can… they have a great running game, and an excellent defense.
Does this change the race to the North crown? Maybe. The Vikes were tough without him, and he certainly doesn’t weaken the team.
I can sort of compare Favre as their QB to Pace as our LT. He is a first ballot HOFer in the twilight of his career. He may be 70-75% of what he used to be, but is still a short-term upgrade over who was there before.
The Vikes are still the North champs until someone takes that title from them. We know the Bears upgraded in many areas in the offseason, but to not give the Vikes their props is silly.
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I am not talking about last season.
A lot has happened since last season.
Don’t try and cherry-pick one thing just to argue.
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favre was every-bit the pro bowl selection last season as cutler. i know he’s old and worthless, but the point remains valid
What point?
You think that because Favre (pre-injury) had Pro Bowl numbers last year, he will be the same this year?
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no way. i’m just saying he was in the Pro Bowl last season, even if it was on name alone… just like all his notoriety over the last half of his career
Perfect.
My original statement was that I didn’t think he was Pro Bowl caliber anymore. Meaning now. In the present.
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My sentinements
are that with or without Favre, the Queens’ problems lie with Childress and not their lackluster QB. Hell even we went to SB with “Tex” Rex.
by Ditka,Sausage,Bears on Aug 18, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions
Good
because I cannot wait for Briggs and Urlacher to level the shit out of him
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
HAHA
It would be so awesome if that happens and he shaken up and can’t come up for like a minute.
by GriggsBriggs on Aug 18, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Watching the LIVE conference...
Jeebus, Favre is old! I’m sure he’s still got some fuel in the tank, but he doesn’t seem to have that same fire that I’m used to seeing from him.
And as for Childress, he is one strange looking man. If he was in line behind me at the grocery store, I would probably hold on to my little girl a bit tighter. Creepy, creepy looking man.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
I think the most interesting aspect will be the attitude of the other QB's if he should get hurt early in the season.
How would you like to be Sage and Tavaris at this stage? Basically tossed to the side due to the whim of an over the hill (probably, at least) windsock who hasn’t been able to make up his mind about playing for almost 3 years now. If Favre gets hurt or fails miserably, what will their mindset be to come in and mop up?
The obvious answer is “their Pros and it’s a business so it shouldn’t affect them”, but I think the reality is the pressure would be incredible. Whomever they bring in would either not want to make any mistakes at all or try to do everything himself to prove the Viking management wrong. Either way, not the optimal set of circumstances for anyone.
What a circus.
Truthfully?
I think it would be enjoyable sitting back practicing for millions of dollars, and learning from an all-time great.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
You are being sarcastic here...right?
Plus, if most of the people on this thread are correct about his declining skill sets, I’m not sure they would be learning much from him at this point.
Being serious here
I’m thinking as a middle class person who basically lives paycheck to paycheck. In other words, I’d be happy as a clam to be making that sort of coin for being a backup to a HOFamer.
I think Favre can offer some good advice/tips/wisdom for Rosencopter and TJack.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I understand that...
if someone paid me that kind of money I’d carry his pads around for him and be happy doing it!!!!!!!
I do think these guys have a whole different view of things though and the way the Vikings and Favre have handled this has been very demeaning to these two guys. Their talent is what it is, but it was the Vikings decision to bring them onto their team. I just think they could have treated them with a little more respect. If any of us had similar things happen to us in our world, we’d probably be pretty pissed off.
Sure
As a competitor I would be a bit peeved, but realize it’s still a business. This probably spells the end for the TJack experiment, and most likely Rosencopter taking over next year for Favre.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
It's interesting that he signed a 2 year deal...
just so he can put everyone through this again next year!!!!
I know!
The horse has been dead for awhile, and there’s nothing left but a skeleton.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
And more mobile.
Possibly a better decision maker also.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
Madden Update
with Favre as a Vike is coming out tomorrow. So for those of you who picked up Madden 10 your opportunity to “tee off” on Brett will be here soon. I don’t have it so you’ll have to tell me how good it feels to see him on the injury screen.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
Did you know?
That we are going to be swept by the Vikings this year? That’s what Marcellus Wiley just said on Sports Center.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
Let them talk
and eat cake.
Analysts also said New England would win the AFC East last year. Atlanta would be no good last year. Dallas would win the NFC East last year. And Detroit would win at least 1 game last year. Plus, out of all the analysts, Wiley has to be one of the dumbest.
Oh don't get me wrong
I can predict just as well as they can. And Wiley is about as dumb as they come. I just found it humorous that now with the arrival of Favre we are getting swept.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 19, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Analysts
Are paid lots of money to be consistently wrong. But if they’re right, they’ll never let you forget.
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
by Robert Rence on Aug 19, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
That's the truth.
They can pay me half of whatever they are paying him, I’m sure I could do just as “good” a job.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 19, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Turnover King..or Queen?
I just read on DN a skeptical Vikings fan shoot out some stats concerning Favre’s turnovers last year. I know he had 22 interceptions, but I did not know he had 10 fumbles too. That equates to 32 turnovers a year…or 2 TIMES A GAME HE GIVES THE BALL TO THE OTHER TEAM. If opposing offenses are any sort of good, they will take advantage of this. Not to mention AP was one of the league leaders in fumbles..
All I am saying is its hard to win games if you turnover the ball that much…except our SB runner-up Bears a few years ago
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