Time to call Dwayne Robertson. Free Agent DT would fit the Bears like a glove.
by SackMan on Aug 25, 2009 1:13 AM CDT
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PrintThe biggest news out of Halas Hall this Monday, was that DT Dusty Dvoracek may be done for the season with a torn ACL. Who would've figured?
Now, I'm not the world's biggest Dusty Dvoracek fan. The guy simply can't stay healthy, and I don't think he was all that special to begin with. But, the Bears were counting on him to be a big contributor to this defense. If Dusty is indeed lost for the season (we have conflicting reports from the PR machine at Halas Hall), then the Bears may be in sudden need of a veteran DT. Especially, since the health of Tommie Harris was already a concern.
Well, Jerry Angelo... I give you former #4 overall pick Dwayne Robertson.
Yes Jerry, I'll be next in line for your GM job... or can at least fill-in when you're at lunch. But, all kidding aside... Robertson's just sitting at home right now. Plus, he's healthy, and he turns just 28 this October. Yeah, he's been an enormous bust as the #4 overall pick by the Jets in 2003. But, Herm Edwards selected him to be the Warren Sapp/Tommie Harris in his version of the Tampa 2 in New York. So, he's got a few things going for him:
- He's a first round, top 10 talent... and often enough, a former top 10 bust resurrects his career with another team. See Thomas Jones, Antonio Bryant, and currently Troy Williamson (Jacksonville) as recent examples.
- He already knows how to play in this defense, as Edwards was running the Tampa 2 in New York... err, I mean New Jersey.
- He'll get the added benefit of being coached by Rod Marinelli, one of the best in the biz.
- Money. Money is always a motivating factor. Especially for guys fresh off the street trying to prove themselves again.
The Jets finally gave up on Robertson last off-season, when they traded him to Denver for a late round pick. He played in 15 games in 2008, and then was released by Denver in February... shortly after Josh McDaniels took over the team. So, if for nothing else... as an added bonus, we'd get to stick it to Denver again:) Right before we fly out there later this week.
Plus... the guy just looks like a mean SOB. Doesn't he?
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Is reporting Dvoracek is gone for the season( I saw it on the ticker and am too lazy to get a link). I’ve always liked Robertson. Pair him next to Tommie on the line and have Marinelli coach him up and he could very well resurrect his career. Go for it!!!
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Interesting idea..
We could use some guys up front.. If/when Harris goes own, we have what? Idonije and Gilbert? :O
Harrison and Adams too
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by lookingdeadred on Aug 25, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Could work out
with Hot Rod coaching him, and heavily incentive-laden contract for motivation.
personally anyone who can stay on the field will be an upgrade over DD right now
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 25, 2009 4:09 AM CDT reply actions
Sorry SackMan, no dice...
Robertson is simply not a good choice as the following states:
On April 24, 2008, the Jets reached an agreement to trade Robertson to the Denver Broncos for a late-round conditional pick pick in the 2009 NFL Draft. This pick can escalate to as high as a second rounder based on stats and performance of Robertson.3 Upon acquiring Robertson, the Broncos signed him to a five-year contract believed to be worth about $24 million. 4
Robertson was released by the Broncos on February 16 after just one season with the team.
He had a chance to make it on the BRONCOS D-line and failed! He simply cannot get it done.
Here’s the list of currrent D-line free agents on NFL.com. A few mistakes (re: Donnie Edwards = Dwan Edwards??)
How about Kenny Smith?
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever"-D St Hubbins Spinal Tap
Well... at this point.
He’s likely gonna get the veteran minimum by any team that signs him, with no signing bonus. So, if he doesn’t work out, and you cut him… there’s no negative impact from the contract.
However, if it does work out… you’ve got a guy highly motivated to get a new contract in the offseason.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Now that he isn’t getting paid, maybe he will be more motivated? Football players are dumb but also smart? After he signs a huge contract, he slacks off. Now he has no contract, so he needs to play hard? Maybe? Long shot I know.
Look for Jason Peters to suck it up this year on the Eagles line. Just signed a huge contract but is one big lazy mutha
I think the biggest reason he isn't a Bear already...
is that he doesn’t fit the Lovie mold. Lovie consistently says the Bears do not want guys that are slow and big or other words to that effect. Didn’t the Bears pass on him when they got Harris? I think he is another Jimmy Kennedy type guy. All of the physical attributes, but none of the desire to actually put in the work to become/stay successful. I’m sure Marinelli stands as good a chance as any at resurrecting his career, but I believe there are many other DT that fit the bill that we wouldn’t have to “hope” cares about getting paid next year:
A repost from earlier this year:
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever"-D St Hubbins Spinal Tap
worth a shot if the money is right
They need help at the DT spot. Granted it was his first action of the season but stud DT Harris impressed no one, nor did Harrison and Adams, and the two rookies showed they have a lot to learn. Marinelli might be able to find the stud DT hidden inside Robertson that pretty much everyone thought he would be not so many years ago.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
I thought Dusty was on the verge on getting cut before the new injury
Harrison and Adams both seem like better players that him
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 25, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions
They were sort of all together as a rotation.
And Dusty was actually listed at the top of the depth chart that the Bears published prior to the Buffalo game.
Harrison was placed on the non-football injury list (otherwise known as the dog house) at the start of camp, because he was overweight.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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with his injury past...
I hope they weren’t counting on him. In my opinion Dusty was the 3rd best NT on the roster. I like him, his hustle, his work ethic, but he has some bad luck. I think they’ll roll with those 2 splitting reps at NT.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 25, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't think he was a special player either
But, they had a love affair with Dusty… that’s why he got so many opportunities despite the injuries.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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+1
I never thought there was anthing special about him either. Maybe he got all the love for being teamates with Tommie in college. But we all knew this would happen SOONER, than later.
Yeah I went there.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 25, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Ooh... pullin out the big the pun there :)
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Absolutely love the photo of Dusty!
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
I Love It!
Stick Denver again! LOL! The look on Josh McDaniels face when Marinelli turns this guy into a Pro Bowler,(maybe). Did you see the look on McDaniels face when Orton threw a left hander interception in the endzone last weekend? It looked like a ate a chit sandwich. I love the concept sackman. It’s out of the box, it fits our scheme and could pay huge dividends. Worth a look no question about it.
I do to, but that's probably not the surprise of the century.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 25, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably not.
Who would’ve thought that either of us liked funny photos?
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Aug 25, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty crazy huh?
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 25, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Robertson have issues with his weight? I like the idea of taking a chance on him for the minimum. Ironically, we had that 4th overall pick, but traded out to pick up Harris and Rex, right? I remember all the experts saying we were targeting Robertson…
Yeah...
We screwed up that draft pretty bad.
We traded the #4 pick to the Jets for #13 and #22. Then, we swapped picks with the Patriots (#14) and selected Michael Haynes. The Patriots took Ty Warren (a much better player, with our pick). They also traded us their 6th round pick in the swap. We packaged that 6th rounder in a deal with Jacksonville, to move up and take Justin Gage in the 5th.
Here’s how the 1st round of that draft played out.
1 Carson Palmer Bengals QB USC
2 Charles Rogers Lions WR Michigan State
3 Andre Johnson Texans WR Miami (FL)
4 Dewayne Robertson Jets DT Kentucky
5 Terence Newman Cowboys DB Kansas State
6 Johnathan Sullivan Saints DT Georgia
7 Byron Leftwich Jaguars QB Marshall
8 Jordan Gross Panthers T Utah
9 Kevin Williams Vikings DE Oklahoma State
10 Terrell Suggs Ravens DE Arizona State
11 Marcus Trufant Seahawks DB Washington State
12 Jimmy Kennedy Rams DT Penn State
13 Ty Warren Patriots DT Texas A&M
14 Michael Haynes Bears DE Penn State
15 Jerome McDougle Eagles DE Miami (FL)
16 Troy Polamalu Steelers DB USC
17 Bryant Johnson Cardinals WR Penn State
18 Calvin Pace Cardinals DE Wake Forest
19 Kyle Boller Ravens QB California
20 George Foster Broncos T Georgia
21 Jeff Faine Browns C Notre Dame
22 Rex Grossman Bears QB Florida
23 Willis McGahee Bills RB Miami (FL)
24 Dallas Clark Colts TE Iowa
25 William Joseph Giants DT Miami (FL)
26 Kwame Harris 49ers T Stanford
27 Larry Johnson Chiefs RB Penn State
28 Andre Woolfolk Titans DB Oklahoma
29 Nick Barnett Packers LB Oregon State
30 Sammy Davis Chargers DB Texas A&M
31 Nnamdi Asomugha Raiders DB California
32 Tyler Brayton Raiders DE Colorado
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Ugh
Look at pick #31…passed on him twice. Drafting is hard.
That's what happens when you focus on positions of need in the 1st round...
Instead of focusing on the best overall player.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Or even...
pick #16, how much better would we feel about our safety position with Troy Polamalu back their.
Goodness,
Reading this makes me die a little on the inside
by GriggsBriggs on Aug 26, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, but look at it this way, how many of those players were really terrible
I mean, at least Rex Grossman was a stud for a month, I have never heard of William Joseph, Andre Woolfork or Tyler Brayton, and the only reason I have heard of Sammy Davis is because he was my 5th string CB on Madden 08.
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
IMAGINE Troy Polamalu in the Bear secondary
And Larry Johnson lasted all the way to #27.
Sigh.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
This draft...
Makes me vomit a little in my mouth reading that list of some of the players we could have had. AND WE HAD 2 SHOTS AT GETTING A STUD! You’d think that even if our awesome GM had just threw darts at a list, we coulda ended up with one of those picks being something special…
Not that I would’ve done any better. If I remember correctly, I wanted us to take Leftwich. I had watched that game where he was carried down the field by his teammates on a drive, and I was smitten.
That would be hilarious on so many levels
We trade out because we don’t want Robertson, we take Haynes a bust from the beginning and the QB of the future who becomes one of the most polarizing QBs and partially led us to making the trade for our now franchise QB and now we would be going back to Robertson. Brillant.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
Kentucky alum, I'm all for it!
Marenelli would get the best out of Robertson.
Nice work SackMan.
Hey Georgia!
Glad you found me over here. Gonna be a great year!
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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