Mr. Cutler Goes To Denver...and Waxes Em
by Adam T on Aug 30, 2009 10:23 PM CDT
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PrintI'm sure Broncos fans were talking big on the call in radio show this past week about what their team was going to do to Jay Cutler, but sadly for them their bark was worse than the Bronco's bite. The Bears offense looked a little shaky at first due to the noise and some bad Oline play, but they settled down and put a hurting on the Broncos.
The final score was 27-17, but is wasn't that close. Cutler finished 15/21 and 144 yards with 1 TD and a 106.1 QB rating. Every Bears player got in on the pass happy offense; biggest of all was Greg Olsen with 3 catches for 47 yards.
The play of the Broncos wasn't the only problem for their fans as a number of players went down, including Kyle Orton, who seems to still be trying to figure it out. It could be a deep cut or something like a sprain, but they seem sure it isn't a break... but anything on the throwing hand is a problem.
What impressed you most this game?
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Devin Hester's PR
I don’t know about all of you, but I was really impressed with our punt return coverage when Hester took one deep. No bad blocks, no holds…overall it reminded me a lot of his rookie season, except we didn’t seem as fast. I guess that could be attributed to the fact that it’s the preseason and we aren’t going 110%.
Hester looked like he really wanted that one, and I think he needs to take one to the house in order to get that weight off of his shoulders from not getting his KR/PR TD last year.
As Cliche as could be,
Cutler impressed me the most. As mentioned in the post, the O-Line struggled at first. While Cutler didn’t throw 50 yard completions, you could see how he sensed the heat and would dump off the ball accordingly. I think if Rexy or Orton were in his shoes, sacks, fumbles, or interceptions would have occured.
Oh, and I smiled so big when I saw Hester’s punt return. That had to help his confidence. If he can only do that a few times in the regular season, we’ll be fine.
Bear Down, Chicago Bears!
As for me...
I was impressed with Jay Cutler’s poise throughout the game. It’s easy, sitting here at the computer, to say “that’s what he gets paid to do!” But we can often forget that this is just a kid; what is he, 25, 26 years old? With all of the hype surrounding the media, all of the critism from such legends as Ditka and Dungy, such nonsense as Denver Radio stations texting and calling him, such garbage as Denver bars hosting Cutler jersey burning and shredding parties, Jay stayed poised. He got the job done and didn’t go into a Jake Plummer-esque middle-finger waiving assault on the fans. He didn’t get into a Philip Rivers-esque screaming match with the opponent. No, he just went out and kicked some Bronco tail!
Personally, my hat goes off to the kid! He’s more of a man and less of a crybaby than 90 percent of the fans I sat with at this game!!
Getcha Beernuts Ready!
Well said,
Cutler’s biggest critics always point out his lack of maturity and his decision making.
Last night he made excellent decisions in as hostile of settings imaginable and didn’t take unwarranted shots at McDaniels, Bowlen or the Denver fans… Very good outing.
Thank God thats over.
Thumbs down to NBC for sucking complete ass. Bears have some work to do though. I hate to say this but Davis seems like he’s sticking. DA and Rideau didn’t do much tonight. D-line kinda sucked tonight.
I have seen a QB and it was good.
No doubt
Basically the whole game was Cutler Cutler Cutler speak, which is fine, because it’s such a big deal. I was really hoping to WATCH some of the second half and the rookies but they had to keep cutting to studio shots for pointless rambling and interviews.
I do feel bad for Kyle though, I mean, talk about a sad injury to end your day. How do you even put that on the injury report?
He could be better
You know, as good as Cutler looked tonight. I see signs of improvement. OTOH, when I see Orton, I think he’s reached the limits of his abilities. I don’t think he made one pass longer than 10 yards while Cutler was throwing it effortlessly 20 and 30 yards downfield.
After having to watch Grossman and Orton for the last couple years...
Seeing what Cutler can do makes me really happy. Good run game, great Punt return by Hester, the Receivers look like they have gotten better because of having a QB like Cutler. The guy is very accurate, has a lot of mobility, and he has an amazing arm.
I’m still a Cardinals fan first and foremost, but I have a lot of family ties to Chicago and I love seeing them play like this.
I can see them making the playoffs this year.
I actually thought our Dline looked good tonight
They were going up against one of the best Olines in the NFL in had some pressure and controlled their rn game for the most part. Pisa looked good again. Our secondary looked shaky at times but we had no bowman, vasher, or tillman so it wil be better.
Defense did look good
I agree with this. Tommie Harris, in particular, looked better than he had all preseason. The secondary didn’t look terrible either.
Did you notice Tommie walking with a limp?
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 30, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
He always walks with a limp
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I wouldn't read too much into it
His knee seems to be eternally sore, but still seems to put in a decent effort. As long as he can penetrate like he did tonight I can care less if he walks a little gimpy from time to time.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Regardless of the limp
once he got his motor going, he was commanding double teams and still pushing up field, which is all we need from him.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
Pisa looked really solid tonight
He’s a stud of a tackler and players much bigger despite his smaller size for a LB. I haven’t really seen him miss a ballcarrier yet this preseason.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
What....
The Rams are idiots. What COULD they have been thinking cutting hiim?
That they didn’t need their most productive linebacker, who’s been a star for them for 6 straight seasons?
Not quite as big a blunder as McDaniels’, but we’re not complaining!
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
TEs were good taking the ball over the middle
But didn’t see too much from the WRs outside of the hashmarks.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
Outside wideout
Should we bring a wide reciever vet in at the end of pre season I think so
Good game tonight fellas
Your team played a good game, and I was impressed with your backup receivers. Good game again.
"FLAG! Fail on the field. Re-do." -Disco_Stu
At this point, I would say Chris Kuper looks like an ACL tear...
that really sucks.
"FLAG! Fail on the field. Re-do." -Disco_Stu
Cutler
was great tonight, not perfect, but damn good.
I was hoping for a better showing from our Defense early on, it seemed to me Orton had a few plays were it seemed like he had alot of time to find an open man.
Not that it amounts to a whole lot, but the way AP ran in the second half was nice as well.
And Hester’s return was a nice sight, brought back good memories.
Good point about AP
We may go with 4 RB’s after all…
Bronco fan here....good game
Congratulations on a game well played. You guys earned the win. One of the beefs on Cutler last year was his reluctance to check down, but tonight, that’s exactly what he did when the situation called for it. He put together a very good lookinig drive. Forte looks like he’s going to create nightmares for DCs.
I know its only preseason, but your team played pretty well tonight. Enjoy the win.
Wherever you go, there you are.
I think you are the first bronco fan to come over
elvis Dumerville (spelling?) was a beast, you guys kept saying that your defense wasnt sucky and I for one didnt believe you, but it looked pretty good. If anything else you guys will most definitely beat the raider this year.
"snuffalufagus fucks my shit up"
by leopoldjones on Aug 30, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Dumervil has been a pleasant surprise for us.
The first string D does look pretty good but we still have issues with crossing TE routes and RB dumps. And beating the raiders is kind of like being the tallest pygmy in the forest, but thanks.
OTOH, Pace is not the dominant force he once was. Cutler never did get sacked, but that has more to do with the abilities of Cutler. Nonetheless, your OL looked pretty good. I do think our DL is better than the talking heads give us credit for, so your guys did a great job.
Wherever you go, there you are.
by YosemiteSam on Aug 30, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Sam...
Also, I have to give your O-line credit. They are outstanding blockers. But can we both agree, there were far too many phantom penalties from Hockuli tonight!!! I saw 2 instances where the Denver O-line made great blocks, but were called for holding and 2 plays where I saw bears players make great blocks/hits and got called for it as well.
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
I second that...
…thanks for noticing. I also thought there should have been a holding call on Pace for grabbing Dumervil in the end zone, and I didn’t see a Bear receiver anywhere near the ball when Cutler threw the 3 yard pass from the end zone into the line to avoid the safety. It is kind of funny that Hockuli was the ref tonight.
All that said, your boys did well tonight, from the top of the lineup to the bottom. Just think. You may have gotten Cutler and Knox in the same trade. Not bad, my friends.
Wherever you go, there you are.
by YosemiteSam on Aug 30, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
The ball was batted down at the line. When that happens, there is rarely a receiver in the area. he was targeting the outside receiver.
But yeah, there were more than a few phantom penalties. Apparently you can’t even tackle a QB anymore. It’s turning into a game of 2 hand touch, because the QB’s are such a money draw for the NFL that they are afraid of them getting hurt. Kinda sad.
Good game tonight though.
I don't recall it getting batted at the line
but i do remember seeing Forte right in front of where the ball was thrown.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
I went back and looked at the replay in slomo
and I’m’ wrong. Forte was moving along the goal line toward the sideline at about the hash mark and Cutler threw it about 4 yards behind him. Forte was hidden by the DL, so my bad.
Wherever you go, there you are.
by YosemiteSam on Aug 31, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Dumervil was one of the NCAA's sack leaders...
He’s a very good pass rusher, that nobody seems to know about. Had 12.5 sacks in ’07.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Does anyone remember the most notorious play Dumervil was involved in.........
When Marcus Vick purposely stepped on him while he was laying there. Ahhhh those Vick brothers, theyve got soo much class huh.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
Of course,
He was very fortunate not to get the boot in that game. Orange Bowl correct?
It might of been I just remembered the play..........
Im not entirely sure. Ill have to check that one. Or maybe go to see Marcus during visitation and ask him myself.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
Gator Bowl, that's right!
Thanks, Cards fan?
UK vs. UofL (basketball)
Is back and better than ever!
So when are you guys gonna dump Craigenthorpe or however you spell that dudes name?
This is it
Jon or Jay Gruden will be the next coach. Jay was the QB from ‘85-’88.
by FromLouisville on Aug 31, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope they get it turned around...
This state is more exciting when basketball and football are firing on all cylinders…
Definately!
At least the Tailgating is always good.
by FromLouisville on Aug 31, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
good times
Go Bears! Go Cats! Go Cards (except when playing the cats)!
Good God
I think I just threw up in mouth.
No mention of UK or UofL bball is necessary. Lot’s of drama, for the cheater who got caught and the cheater who changes teams when the heats getting too close.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. NOW GET YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME!
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 31, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL...I'm just glad their in the news again...
I HOPE & PRAY that with the resources Calipari has here, he won’t have to be as shady… Oh, and Rajon Rondo owns you…
Rondo own's who?
Not me.
Sold your soul to the Devil with Calipari, you might win something but you won’t get to keep it. Ask UMASS and Memphis about that.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. NOW GET YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME!
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 31, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, It's the Bulls that he owns... not you.
I’ve always thought that was such a silly penalty. WE WILL WIPE YOU FROM THE RECORD BOOKS!
Funny, I seem to remember the Fab 5, UMASS (whom the Cats beat for a title) and Memphis playing in the Final Four. And I’m pretty sure I will never forget it when the Cats win a title this year, whether it’s legit or not…
didn't either
was kind of surprising
Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave
Sam...
Well I believe the game came out about what I expected. Your defense is actually much better than I thought. Kudos to Nolan because he schemed to win. Fantastic job on defense. But can I say the Orton led offense looked poor at best. The Bears are without both starting corners for goodness sake. Did I not say that the 3-4 or 5-2 would suit Dumervil?
Nonetheless, I do wish you guys luck with your schedule. Now, for us, we need to get a #1 WR and figure out how to keep our CB healthy.
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
Orton has good stats from the game
12/16, about 100 yards, no pics, but stats don’t tell the whole story. I thought there were some problems with his play. The real problem was our OL play. It was not up to par, and I don’t know if the injury to our starting RG was part of the problem.
And now that you guys are probably done whipping up on us for this year, I still have to hope you go 0-16. I want that first overall pick just a wee bit more now.
Wherever you go, there you are.
by YosemiteSam on Aug 30, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
sam
didnt u guys trade that pick for smith?
the guy johnny knox beat(had to say it lol)
by Bear Lovin 21 on Aug 30, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
They traded their "natural pick" for the guy that Johnny Knox toasted tonight.
They still have the Bears 2010 1st rounder (#32)
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Aug 30, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, that was our 1st
but we probably wouldn’t have done it without having your 1st, too. Paying for 2 first round picks in consecutive years can be really expensive. And the real irony is that you got Knox with our 5th round pick that came over with Cutler.
Wherever you go, there you are.
by YosemiteSam on Aug 30, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys also traded uo to get McKinney? McKinnley? Whatever his name is.
I liked him tonight. He toasted our crappy 2nd and 3rd stringers.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Just was thnking about that...
earlier this evening. What about that pick next year?? To be honest, I see the need at NT first and foremost for Denver. If you could get better penetration up front, you will have a solid D for years to come.
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
I have a question
How often when Jay Cutler was your QB did you have 3rd and 18 from your own 14 yard line and just decide to set up for a punt instead of throwing it deep?
Denver fans are totally right. Orton is their QB of the future.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
Gotta say 2 things now...
Garrett Wolfe has got to go! Our AP is simply better. Sorry Garrett, I really like you, but Ap is better, hands down!
Can Turner please call an offensive play longer than 10 yds.
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
Screen call in the end-zone
was ludicrous. Why on earth would a defense fall for a slow-developing play when Cutler has no where to go to lure them into?
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Wolfe led the team in ST tackles last year
he stays probably for that.
Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave
Is anyone else here happy to see Adrian Peterson
running well? He looked sharp on his cuts and displayed good speed. Still like him over Wolfe even in his special teams role.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 30, 2009 10:53 PM CDT reply actions
i am!
the guy does really well when he gets his chance he runs with anger and passion and is hard to take down he should defnitly make the roster i was pulling for wolfe but its possible they both make it?
by Bear Lovin 21 on Aug 30, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
PSDB...
Also, can i shout out to Knox…
He, IMO, needs to stay. Iglesias did not show up at all.
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
You may.
I like Knox and I think he can be a great receiver if we give him time. I’ve been thinking that Iglesias could be an expendable receiver even though I don’t know if they would cut him since he was a high pick. I would like Hester/Bennett/Rideau/Aroma/Knox/ and yes Rashied to make the team, I’d rather have him over Iglesias.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 30, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Rideau and DA
are practically the same receiver. I’d rather them cut DA in order to keep two promising rookies in the fold. It’s nearly impossible to predict how Iglesias or Knox will develop in the coming years.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
From what I've seen...
you’ve got to keep Knox. He looks solid out there and he’ll be special after some development. Iglesias was quiet today, but he’s a solid player all around. I see why they drafted him so you’ve got to keep him. As much as I hate to say it, if a receiver has to go it should be Rideau. DA has looked way more solid and Rashied Davis was a beast on special teams (as he usually is).
Bear Down, Chicago Bears!
by topdoggkyle on Aug 31, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Rideau has been the stud in camp all summer
I don’t think he’s been given enough chances to shine with Cutler in game time. What have you seen from Iglesias to think that he’s a solid player all around?
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 31, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Obviously I've got a very small cross section to work with...
but a touchdown and an impressive run after the catch for a solid (I think 25-yard) gain during the Giants game showcasing an athleticism I did not think he possessed. Basically, more than I’ve seen from Rideau.
Bear Down, Chicago Bears!
by topdoggkyle on Aug 31, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions
what HAVE you seen of Rideau?
You can’t base his worth on what has happened during preseason. Did you go to training camp this year or watch any of the highlights on the official site? He was one of the big playmakers, not to mention during last years preseason he led all NFL receivers in TD’s. He’s got better size, hands, and more experience in our system.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 31, 2009 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions
You've got to be kidding
You take a guy who had a good camp over a guy who has had a good pre-season playing live against different teams?
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
You gotta admit though........
With all we saw, well I saw at camp, it is disappointing to not even see him getting chances to show what hes capable of. I know hes been out there a FEW times with Cutty but definitely not enough of a litmus test for him.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
that's fine, you can be let down by it
but you can’t make a serious argument to keep a player who had a good camp over a player who’s had a good preseason.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
Unfortunately I cant argue with you there........
But Ill give a half ass attempt anyway. When he led the league last year in preseason touchdowns where did that get him. So its not always about the preseason in some cases, or he wouldve made the team last year. He just never gets any love and I truly feel bad for him cause with an opportunity he would show you a lot of the same stuff DA is showing you. They are very similar players but DA has made the most of his opportunities this year for sure. Soo practice squad you go Rideau and somehow Davis makes the squad.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
Why not?
Rideau had the best in-game pre-season of any Bear WR in 2008 and he didn’t make the team… So yes, you can make a serious argument.
Yea but last nite was make or break for him........
So I think its a lock he wont be there barring an injury or 2 god forbid but I would hate to us lose him to another team its never a bad thing to have depth.
Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
I just would have liked to have seen Rideau get more looks than he did.
I like his size and grit. And I especially liked his “Rainday Practice”.
http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=5988
Maybe it’s because I’m from Horse Racing country, where “mudders” can rule the rainy race day… point being, there is horrible weather every season and Rideau showed he can make plays in rough conditions…. I know, I know ….. I’m reaching with that one, but dammit I want him on the team!
I was at the "rainday practice"
and he was great that day and the day before. I would like him to get a lot more looks with Cutler as well because I thought they gelled nicely during camp and he’s our tallest receiver. It’s disappointing to see him being a non-factor right now.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 31, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
That was because
the other receivers were veterans or draft picks that weren’t going anywhere.
This year, one of the undrafted guys is going to make the roster. If you have to choose between D.A. and Rideau, you go with:
the receiver who has clicked better with the QB in game situations, right?
Or you take the workout warrior that looks good in camp?
I know what move I’d make
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
I take D.A.
He’s clicked with Cutler and Rideau hasn’t. As for not keeping Iglesias over either of them, that’s all well and good in theory, but you don’t release 3rd round picks in their rookie season. Everyone loves the story of Rideau the same way they loved the story of Hass. Hass got away from us….haven’t heard much from him since, have you? Camp Phenoms come and go. Its the receivers that can play in game situations that make a difference.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
Never was a Haas fan...
Rideau has made plays when given the opportunity. I’ll take a guy that knows the offense, that has made plays and that could actually contribute on special teams this year (Rideau) over a guy that is learning the offense, hasn’t made many plays, hasn’t shown much on special teams (Iglesias).
You said, “Its the receivers that can play in game situations that make a difference.” Does that more describe Rideau or Iglesias?
It may be pointless to say,
but there is no way I would keep Iglesias over Rideau or DA.
When did Iglesias have such a good preseason?
I didn’t see it at all in the first 3 games.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 31, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Um.
Was talkin about D.A. in comparison to Rideau. Propheteer stated he’d rather see them drop DA. I say Rideau can go the way of the Buffalo.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
I just replied this off of what you said in response to my comment above.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 31, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Ahh, I may have been having a phantom Argument
I saw topdogkyle say you have to keep DA over Rideau, and then your response was home awesome Rideau was. Didn’t gather it was about Iglesias or Rideau..still though, you don’t cut a 3rd round pick his rookie season. Would you have cut Bennett last year for Rideau?
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
me and toppdogkyle were talking about
keeping Rideau over Iglesias up there. I know it’s strange to cut a 3rd round pick and I don’t think it would happen anyway, I’m just stating preference. I’d hate for Knox to be the odd man out in this whole thing because I think he has great upside as a receiver and maybe even a returner at some point but he just might be. Last year I was impressed by Rideau but not as high on him because picking up vets Marty Booker and Lloyd was suppose to be more effective than it played out and we didn’t need a practice squad WR to step up so desperately as we do this season.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 31, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Preseason stats
DA- 3 rec. 46 yds
Rideau- 3 rec. 25 yds.
Iglesias- 3 rec. 58 yds. 1 TD
Knox- 3 rec. 65 yds.
It’s not like any one of them have separated themselves from each other, so I think the competition for a roster spot will be decided in Thursday game. Contrary to thoughts, Iglesias has the most impressive numbers even though he went against 2nd-stringers along with Knox. IMO, the two rookies have made enough plays to warrant roster spots.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I'm not saying this is the case because they don't show the off receivers during the game, but
maybe he hasn’t had “enough chances” because he can’t get open. ????
It appeared to me that
Rideau kept playing on the right side of Cutler and DA was playing on his left side when he was in. It seems to me that Cutler likes to look left and tends to throw right in check downs or when he rolls out of the pocket. Maybe if Rideau was played where DA has been recently he might get more looks and a few balls thrown his way but your right there is a possibility he just hasn’t been open when he gets his time with the first team.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 31, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Iglesias has not shown up *at all*
I am astonished anybody would want to keep Iglesias over Davis, Rideau, or Knox. He has shown nothing at all.
and...
Didn’t he have a 40-something yard kickoff return in the first game?
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
I think we are going to be fine WR wise
I think the sky is the limit for us. Im sure I may be by myself on this but I liked Adrian Peterson an I like him more then Kevin Jones Adrian Peterson moved the Ball well If a running back just has to go sorry I would say Garrett Wolf. Our secondary is lacking badly I am so tiered of seeing teams throw 20-40 yard passes on our D I sure hope Tillman,Bowman,manning rescue us in that department.
One player away........
I think we are one player away from a real strong push into the playoffs and beyond seeing that Cutlers pocket presence presents all kinds of havoc to opposing defenses but still think a quality receiver that knows how to get open with sharp route ruunning will take us to the promised land…….
Not related to the game...
…but I’ve got the Titans-Browns game running and Bernie Kosar is in the studio… so that’s who Jay Cutler styled his hair after!
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
Man...
have you never been to the South, Cutler has the same haircut as basically every frat boy in the SEC.
It ain't relegated to just the South.
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec (wreck) comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
Surprises
I was happy with Davis standing out on special teams. He probably kept his job.
The original AP ran with determination.
Orlando Pace seemed to get better as the night went on.
Pace blew his protection when it mattered.
Cutler was in a highly hostile environment and he didn’t protect him enough. I was disappointed in him.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 30, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
My last thoughts....
AP stays..Wolfe goes.
DA moves up the charts to 3rd WR.
Iglesias gets cut.
We need Tillman/Bowman back soon.
Davis may beat out Rideau (did I just say that?).
Bullocks just played himself off the roster, congrats D Manning!
Steltz also is off to pasture…
Turner needs to use Hester better and not as the primary WR. He is so tough over the middle, why not put him in the slot and move Bennett to #1.
The Packers are the best team in the NFC, so we gotta play lights out opening weekend or we will be on the outside looking in.
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
I'm out too...
Yes, Hester should be a return man and your #1 slot. He needs some work with his routes, but that will come and Cutler can help with that. Also, as a slot, you’ll get better matchups on him, and every once in a while, you’ll run him on a go route for a quick 6.
And I don’t know where AP came from, but he wants a job!
Wherever you go, there you are.
by YosemiteSam on Aug 30, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't believe I'm saying this...
but maybe G. Wolfe has to go. I love the guy and I still think he’s being underutilized, but with the way our offense is being run, you’ve got to keep AP over Wolfe.
Bear Down, Chicago Bears!
by topdoggkyle on Aug 31, 2009 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Hester in slot.
He does work well there. If I’m not mistaken, we seem to have run the play fairly often this pre-season where he’s lined up there and we spread Olsen out wide.
—d
Iglesias...
doesn’t get even close to making the practice squad. So, stop even saying that, it’s stupid. If you don’t want Iglesias just say release him.
Knox & Others
Loved to see that catch out of him.
Backup QB’s, well neither one of them stank up the joint so that’s good.
Davis made a good play on special teams.
When we had a goal line playa, our first team O-line blew out their first team D-line. That is a change.
Long story short, we shut them up… that place was a tomb by halftime and it was obvious to all that our first team was just plain better than theirs. That’s all that really matters.
AP vs Wolfe
I don’t have a horse in this race as neither will make a big impact, but I do believe AP made all of his hay against the 3rd team Bronco defense. OTOH, Wolfe did next to nothing. Davis would be gone if i were up to me, none of the WR’s are great but Davis is what he is and Knox may at least be a starting quality WR down the line.
Cutler looked great, Hester returning the punt was huge, and Olsen looked outstanding. I’m at least comfortable with the offense for the first time in a very long time.
Forte
I was at the game tonight and Forte really stuck out. Even with Cutler it looks like we’re focusing on him in the passing game, he was out wide at least once tonight, but his pass blocking was great. At least twice I saw him pick up a rusher with a good line at cutler. Its great to see a young back with such great blocking instincts.
Defnitely...
Forte is the best blocking HB we’ve had since Payton. The adjustment he made to get the block vs the Giants allowed Cutler to hit Aromashedu. It was my favorite play component of the Giants game.
Hillenmeyer sealing off the punt return lane for Hester was my favorite play component last night.
I guess I just love the “little” things when guys do their jobs the right way. Made consistently, these lead to a lot of ticks in the ‘W’ column.
Ya you know on special teams it is the little things.Like Craig Steltz not receiving the pently by raising up his hands.but he still got the defender to the ground
My thought was
Great, Steltz is at his best when he’s not doing anything. ;-)
Yep, and against the Giants I noticed he switched the ball to his outside arm on one run to the left, to protect it from the tacklers coming across from the right. He only fumbled once in ~330 touches last year, apparently.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
Culter difference for 10-15 yrs
Against mediocre QBs like Orton, Bear Fans can now be assured that Cutler will more than likely make enough plays from the QB positions to help win games from a team element standpoint.
Orton/Cassel type QBs need other unitS to contribute in a major way in order to assure wins from a team perspective.
When Orton was here, it was the Bears special team and defensive Units more responsible for Orton’s record while playing in Chicago. In New England earily on it was the Pats defense that was relied on more than Brady to pull out games. Brady was a game manager in his first few years at full QB duties.
However, the arguement that Cutler is a loser because of the teams record when he was QBing is totally false static for QBs. Jay & the Offense carried that team with defense giving 28 prg, so Cutler is responsible for their win/loss record? And Orton with a Super Bowl defense & special team is really a winner?
by Soloistic on Aug 30, 2009 11:39 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
How about that bullshit roughing the passer call on Alex Brown?
If that’s how they’re going to handle pressure on the QB then they are truly making this game more p*ssy by the day. Used his entire body weight? How about the Haynesworth hit on Tom Brady where he hurt his shoulder, where was the roughing call there because I don’t remember one! Stupid call.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 30, 2009 11:41 PM CDT reply actions
yeah thats some shit!
They need to find some common ground on that call.
I have seen a QB and it was good.
I thought they were going to call
unnecessary roughness on Briggs
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 31, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions
In Larry Mayer's in-game blog..
he said,
Alex Brown just got flagged for roughing the passer for “using all of his weight” to tackle the quarterback. It was one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen. I guess it’s preseason for the officials too!
word
Bear Down, Chicago Bears!
by topdoggkyle on Aug 31, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Excellent Game, Chicago Fans
Best of luck to you the rest of the way.
I hope it works out for everyone involved, including Kyle and JC himself.
It’s good to have an NFC team to follow as well.
I think Lovie calling the plays on DEF is an excellent move.
Again best of luck.
Smokey, my friend, you are entering a world of pain.
Good impressions
Pisa
Cutler
Harris
Olsen
Bennett
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Thanks, and Briggs too.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Caleb Hanie
you bears fans have to be feeling pretty good about Hanie as your #2 guy now, yeah? i think he looks pretty solid, but I’m a CSU alum, so i’m extremely biased
He's been a pre-season dandy...
for a couple years in a row now. Hopefully the only time he sees a real game is if we’re up 30 pts or something.
Congrats!
Good game by your team tonight, guys. I have to say that the Hester punt return for a near TD (I doubt they kick to him in the regular season, but why not see how your guys measure up in an exhibition game, right?) really swayed the momentum of the game. Until that point, Cutler was efficient but hardly prolific and the Bears offense didn’t seem to be gaining any traction. Devin’s a scary good return man… Anyway, you guys looked good today and I wish you luck this season. Enjoy tonight’s victory; you deserved it.
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
Problem is
he’s injury prone.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
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