NightLink: Bears Start Trimming Roster
by Dane Noble on Aug 31, 2009 4:45 PM CDT
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PrintFirst roster cuts were due tomorrow, but Lovie Smith and company went ahead and got the first round out of the way today.
Defensive tackle Dusty Dvoracek was waived/injured. Wide receiver John Broussard, punter Richmond McGee and long snapper J.J. Milan were placed on waivers. McGee performed well during training camp but wasn't going to unseat veteran Brad Maynard.
Final cuts to 53 are due on Saturday. Teams can begin establishing an eight-man practice squad on Sunday.
That means 22 more players will not make the final squad. Head over to the Bears official site, and check out the roster. Take a stab at who you think will be cut... can you come up with 22 names?
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this is killing me...
this is too tough. I’m not sure. I’m still trying to figure it out myself
Bear Down, Chicago Bears!
I would have loved if the Bears were the Hard Knocks team this year.
I would love to see the inner workings of the Bears.
The sun will shine in '69
I don't know if the Bears WILL but I think they SHOULD
cut 25 more so they have room to bring in somebody else’s cap casualty at QB, S and possibly even CB.
No brainer cuts: Asista, Baldwin, Balogh, Burgess, Cermond, Deleston, Kinder, Louis, Malast, McClover, Peterman, Raiola, Rivera,
Slightly harder cuts that still make sense when you think about it: Hamilton, Turenne, Basanez, Iglesias, McBride, Tofu, Wolfe
Final round of painful cuts: Rideau, Freeman, Toeina, Jason Davis
"We can do it any way you want to. We can go right out back and get it on or you can shape your ass up."
There is no way
Iglesias or Wolfe are cut. Draft status trumps all.
I think Wolfe SHOULD be shown the door. But I don’t think it happens.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
man cuts are tough
i think rashied davis might get cut instead of iglesias just cuz igleasias is younger and a rookie
Davis earned his spot last night on Special Teams
did you see when he was out there as a gunner? He earned his spot, along with wolfe
The sun will shine in '69
I agree, he was flying on coverage.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Perhaps one of the two makes it, but both shouldn't. There's plenty of capabable STers.
1. Johan Asiata
2. Ervin Baldwin
3. Cody Balogh
4. Brett Basanez (We don’t need him, and even if we cut him and ended up needing a backup because of, gulp, an injury at QB, we could get someone on the open market (Kevin O’Connell? Is he still available? A.J. Feeley could be looking for a job?)
5. Josh Bullocks (He has not done much to stick, to me. He and Steltz should have had better coverage over top on that long pass in the game yesterday. Same old Bullocks getting beat as the last man of defense!) (Could be Steltz gone, but what about keeping and developing their own?)
6. Rudy Burgess
7. Joe Clermond
8. Jason Davis (should find a job, should be on the team instead of McKie)
9. Dahna Deleson
10. Michael Gaines (I’d be surprised if kept. We have two amazing TEs and KD is coming along in his second year, with great size.)
11. Marcus Hamilton
12. Derek Kinder
13. Kevin Malast
14. Richmond McGee
15. Henry Melton (practice squad player, didn’t show much in games)
16. Eric Peterman (practice squad player)
17. Donovan Raiola
18. Mike Rivera
19. Will Ta’ufo’ou (McKie, if up to me, would be gone)
20. Woodny Turenne (played okay, but I thought even on his end zone pass breakup in game 2 was a toss-up: could have easily not made play, and seemed surprised by ball being there. In other words, not bad – but not as good as McBride or CG or even Vasher)
21. Darrell McClover: (Signed as a body, but AP is staying and will play ST with Freeman, and Roach, Williams and HH are back-ups, with Freeman.
22. Garret Wolfe (hasn’t done anything as a RB, and needs to be let go. He will find a job. At some point his enticing speed can’t keep him around. He hasn’t done near what Sproles did for San Diego in terms of developing and showing his RB skills in preseason. Needs to really light up game on Thursday to be kept on my imaginary roster.)
23. Rashied Davis (I truly think he should be gone, but I can see us going with a highly-unconventional 7 WRs to start the season.
24. McBride (bc of R.Hood signing)
25. Lance Louis (Practice squad possibility, but otherwise the 9th OL)
26. Marcus Freeman (Think he’s more in danger than some others because he could make practice squad without being signed, but seems unlikely if only 22/23 cuts are to be made.
The Bears have proven they will cut a guy who was drafted high
but there is a limit to that. Wolfe has been here a few years. We got rid that LB from Stanford, Michael Okwa(o), he was a third rounder I think. The Bears still think they have something in Wolfe and to some extent they do, he is turning into a very good ST player.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
Dan Bazuin, 2nd rounder same year.
Wasn’t he cut last year, along with Okwo?
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by David Taylor on Aug 31, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
they just cut Dusty Dvoracek who was a high draft pick and he actually produced when he was on the field. no reason why wolfe shouldnt see the same fate
by Teh Immortal Batman on Aug 31, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Dusty and Wolfe
are not in the same situation. Dusty as usual is injured. Wolfe has for the most part stayed healthy for most of his time in Chicago. Wolfe will go if it comes down to him and AP IMO.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. NOW GET YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME!
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 31, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
What...
is with the hate of Iglesias, I have never seen people expecting more out of a rookie WR.
its the mancrush
everyone has seemingly developed on Rideau.
Look, there’s no way that not only are the Bears a terrible judge of talent, but so are the other 31 teams that have never claimed him off our practice squad. That’s all he is. A camp body. Iglesias gets the spot.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
I hear you...
I actually like Rideau, but not at the expense of cutting Iglesias who I think is learning quick. We didn’t see shit out of Earl Bennett last year and now he looks like our number 1 receiver (in my eyes).
Bear Down, Chicago Bears!
Exactly
Iglesias is the real talent between him and Rideau. I think him or DA will be cut, with Knox joining a 6-man WR corp as well.
Hester
Bennett
Davis
DA/Rideau
Iglesias
Knox
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Id agree with that..
Cuz we only need aromashodu or rideau..keeping both would be iffy
developing?
I think a few have had it for 3 years now. They had it on Haas as well.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
and Hass
was released from our practice squad and didn’t immediately go blow up the field elsewhere.
All I’m saying is, we all like the story of the underdog, but the coaches aren’t keeping him down just to hurt his career. There’s a reason if he’s not on an active roster come Saturday.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
Can I write John Broussard's name 22 times?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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rashied davis and wolfe
should be cut. davis cant catch and wolfe cant run. while they are both good special team players. is it really that hard to play special teams? anyone can fill their roles. i like rideau and aromashadu. i think they can both have good seasons and also play on special teams
Decisions Decisions
Just look at the ones that play towards the end of the preseason games and you can see at least 15 of the cuts
22 to get cut......just a stab
ok here we go….Hamilton, Wolfe, R. Davis, Buenning, Clermond, Melton, Freeman, Asiata, Baldwin, Toeaina, Balogh, Kinder, Malast, Peterman, Bergess, Raiola, Turenne, Rivera, Deleston, Ta’ufo’ou, possibly K. Davis, and…….i dont know if its a smart move but Inglesias
2 QBs
I’d like to see Baz get the axe and the Bears roll with 2 QBs this year. Maybe it’s slightly risky, but really, would Baz be any better than anyone we can pick off the street in a pinch?
They can always pick up a vet during the season...
ff the worse should happen. I’m sure Brian Griese’s number is on speed dial, if that were to happen. I can see Wolfe going, well before Davis… Davis does look really good on special teams & I don’t think they’d cut Iglesias… even though I’m not entirely sure where he fits.
I also like Rideau & Aromashadu, mostly for their size. It is a tough call.
Do we have a reciever or running back that can take snaps in an emergency?
If the answer is yes, then go down to 2 QB’s, somebody will be available at if Cutler and Hanie go down, and if both are gone what kind of season do we really have? If Cutler goes down for like 2-4 weeks we might be able to survive the season with Hanie and some midseason pick-up.
The sun will shine in '69
My 22
Asiata
Baldwin
Balogh
Basanez
Burgess
Clermond
Jason Davis
Deleston
Hamilton
Hillenmeyer
Kinder
Louis
Malast
McClover
Peterman
Raiola
Rideau
Rivera
Ta’ufo’ou
Toeaina
Turenne
Vasher – trade for draft pick.
Vasher doesn't go anywhere
until we have Tillman and Bowman back on the field and they are full speed, so probably not this year.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
Vasher is an asset no matter what happens
Hillenmeyer may make it as well if Roach and Williams aren’t healthy.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I see the defense keeping more players for now...
My worry is that Pace is out by mid-season and Shafer is a starter at RT.
DBs will have to be deep this year. Cannot say whether the Bears keep Steltz or Bullocks?
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
How?
Is a future 5th-rounder going to help with our secondary this year? You can say what you want about Vasher, but he looked better against the Broncos than the previous games and has played at a high level before.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
It's not, but I don't think Vasher's going to help with our secondary this year either.
Right now, I think Tillman, Bowman, Graham, and McBride are all better options. Maybe we should keep him around until TIllman and Bowman get back on the field, but I think it’d be a mistake to keep him after week 6, barring some major injury. I think his value’s only going to drop.
McBride, seriously?
He had an awful game against the Broncos; I hope he gets cut long before Vasher would be considered. There’s no guarantee Tillman and Bowman will be healthy for the entire year, and they may likely be out for the opener. Rodgers and company will absolutely “torch” the Bears if McBride is back there.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Which says more about a player...
A fraction of one preseason game, or weeks of training camp? Since training camp started, McBride, from most accounts I’ve seen, has done better than Vasher. Plus, McBride is much more useful on special teams.
Look, I’m not saying McBride is great, but at this point, Vasher is about as useful as a buttered noodle.
I guess we'll agree to disagree
Hood being brought in signals the end to McBride’s tenure with the Bears.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I don't know about that.
First off, it remains to be seen if Hood has anything left. Second, I think Moore hasn’t done much to impress, so he might be left off the roster. Third, I think there’s a decent chance the Bears keep 6 corners due to all the injuries. I think that would be a mistake, but it might still happen.
Why the Wolfe love??...
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
by LostInSTL on Aug 31, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because he's the same height and build as me!!
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
Notable cuts
Nathan Vasher, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Johnny Knox, Henry Melton. Bears will try and fail to get Knox and Melton to the practice squad.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
BLou can you elaborate on any one of these thoughts...
I guess any one is possible, but why Knox or Melton?
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
Because the Bears don't have the luxury of dicking around at wide receiver
The Bears are already overloaded with “work in progress” and uncertainties at wide receiver. In fact, there is no clear cut “sure thing” with any of our wide receivers until proven otherwise on the field in 2009.
Hence why I think the Bears end up going with the following mix…Hester, Bennett, Rideau, Aromashodu, Iglesias.
Rashied Davis and Johnny Knox are on the outside looking in. And I’m okay with that. Knox hasn’t shown a whole lot to be perfectly honest. Iglesias will stick over Knox for the simple reason he is a 3rd round pick and Knox is a 5th rounder.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
Knox
Knox hasn’t shown a whole lot to be perfectly honest.
So having 3 rec. for 21.7 average (43 long) and a TD in limited opportunities isn’t enough? I think him and Iglesias both make the team, with either DA or Rideau securing the final spot.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Somewhat agree
I somewhat agree with you. Remember, Lovie always says we are a running team which makes me believe we will only need and go with 5 WR so we can carry extra RBs and TEs.
1. Hester
2. Bennett
3. DA
4. Davis
5. Iglesias
I think we can get Knox through to the practice squad IMO
1. a TD in garbage time pre-season doesn’t mean everyone in the league wants you
2. Knox didn’t score a TD, he had one long bomb that he beat a rookie CB on
I think the league sees Knox as a work in progress just like the Bears do. He will take at least 2-3 years to be any sort of impact player on an offense. Just cause he is fast doesn’t mean the league wants him. I remember from draft day he was not on many teams’ lists of targets. He could end up on the PS
it just means
Al Davis wants him
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
by BearNecessities on Sep 1, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Nothing has changed since drafting him
He will take at least 2-3 years to be any sort of impact player on an offense.
I’m positive the Bears brass would’ve known it would take that long for him to develop when they selected him. I mean come on, he did come from Abilene-Christian college.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
A good sign Knox will make the team.
Which receiver do you think helped himself the most in the Bears’ win over the Broncos?
Pete K.
Chicago
The three receivers who I feel are the top contenders for the No. 3 spot behind Devin Hester and Earl Bennett really didn’t do a whole lot in Sunday night’s win over the Broncos. Devin Aromashodu had two catches for eight yards, Brandon Rideau had one reception for four yards and Rashied Davis didn’t have a ball thrown in his direction. If I had to pick one receiver who helped himself the most, it would have to be rookie Johnny Knox. The fifth-round draft pick showed his speed and acceleration in catching a 43-yard pass from Caleb Hanie down the right sideline. I thought all along that Knox would make the 53-man roster, but I think that play will even further enhance his chances
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Vasher won't be cut
not with Tillman’s health up in the air. Vasher might be in trouble after this year but the Bears are weakest in the secondary (see R. hood signing)
by VillanuevaExperience on Sep 1, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Looking at it from who will make the cut
Here’s how I’m reading the tea leaves, not necessarily who I would pick:
DL – Ogunleye, Anderson, Brown, Idonije, Harris, Adams, Harrison, Gilbert, (Melton or Toeania) – 9
LB – Urlacher, Briggs, Tinoisamoa, Roach, Freeman, (Williams or Hillenmeyer) – 6
DB – Payne, Afalava, Manning, Steltz, Tillman, Vasher, Graham, Bowman, Manning, (2 of Moore, Hamilton, McBride) – 10
OL – Pace, Omiyale, Kreutz, Garza, Williams, Beekman, Shafer, (Buenning or Louis) – 8
TE – Olsen, Clark, K Davis – 3
WR – Hester, Bennett, R Davis, Iglesias, Knox, (Aromashodu or Rideau) – 6
FB – McKie – 1
RB – Forte, Jones, Wolfe, Peterson – 4
QB – Cutler, Hanie – 2
Other – 1 of Basanez, J Davis, M Gaines – 1
K – Gould -1
P – Maynard – 1
LS – Mannelly – 1
That’s 53 players. I guess you could add some of the defensive choices to my “other” spot
Good list
Good list, but I am telling ya DA is a lock. I also think Knox and Rideau are on the outside looking in.
Great list.
This is pretty much where I’m at as well.
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by David Taylor on Aug 31, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we only keep 3 RBs
and when the roster is cut down, I see only 6 OL guys (Shafer and Beekman as backups).
I think all of the LBs and DL guys you have listed here will be on this team. Harris’s knee is too suspect to not have extra bodies.
I see Rideau on the outs and I hope the Bears cut ties with Wolfe and keep AP.
Maybe Gaines makes the roster on the bubble or we keep Buenning as backup. But I see the D keeping Moore and McBride first.
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
My edits
For LB, make that Hillenmeyer or FREEMAN, as Williams is a lock.
For DB, make that 2 of Moore, McBride, Hamilton or Hood. And what makes you so sure they’ll cut Bullocks? I think he sticks with all the questions in the secondary.
For WR, I’d like them to go with 6, but I don’t know if that’s gonna happen so…
For other, make it 2 of Basanez, J Davis, Gaines, K Davis, Peterson, 6th receiver.
I've really had enough Trumain McBride.
Can’t tackle, can’t cover. Corey Graham is bigger, faster, more skilled, and hits a hell of a lot harder. Why the hell does McBride play over him?
He’s just terrible. I really don’t remember the last time I saw him make a solid, physical tackle. I do remember a half-dozen or so misses, however.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Rod Hood was released by the Browns.
This is a guy we brought in for a look earlier in the year only to see him sign there. Any chance we pursue him?
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Umm never mind. It seems he signed with the Bears shortly after I posted this.
So now who do we cut?
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Mine.
With 23 names, to cover for the addition of Rod Hood.
Low-draft rookies, unimpressive free agents and vets, and camp bodies:
Johan Asiata
Ervin Baldwin
Cody Balogh
Brett Basanez
Josh Bullocks
Rudy Burgess
Joe Clermond
Dahna Deleston
Marcus Hamilton
Derek Kinder
Lance Louis
Kevin Malast
Eric Peterman
Donovan Raiola
Mike Rivera
Will Ta’ufo’ou
Woodny Turenne
Harder cuts:
Michael Gaines – Odd man out at tight end. Kellen Davis has the benefit of a year in the system.
Brandon Rideau – No way, not after last night. Sorry, dudes.
Adrian Peterson – The writing’s been on the wall here for a while. Wolfe’s a better special teams player, and the Forte/Jones tandem is going to take most of the offensive snaps.
Hunter Hillenmayer – Low upside. I could see Freeman getting cut instead, but he’s got a lot of potential and is expected to do good things on special teams.
Juaquin Iglesias – I think that Knox secured a roster spot after burning that early pick from Denver last night for the TD. Davis earned his job with special teams play. And Aromashodu – whose name I can now spell without looking it up, incidentally – has been impressive and Cutler likes him. I see us rolling with five wide receivers, and I think Iglesias is out.
Trumaine McBride – Rod Hood just took his job. Otherwise he’d stay for depth.
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no chance is wolfe a better special teams player then AP
by Teh Immortal Batman on Aug 31, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree, AP is much better at special teams than Wolfe
They’ll both be kept for ST play, but AP is more solid. Rashied Davis will also be kept mostly for ST play too. I didn’t see much of him in pass situations but he was excellent as the gunner against the Broncos.
"There are plenty of guys out there who are bigger, stronger, or faster than me, but there is nobody-and I mean nobody-who tried harder than I do on the football field." - Mike Singletary
If I were the GM this is what the team would look like after roster cuts:
Cuts – (Dusty Dvoracek, John Broussard, Richmond McGee, J.J. Milan already cut) .
Rod Hood was also signed so I am working under the assumption that he takes McBride’s job.
FB – Will Ta’ufo’ou, Jason Davis,
WR – Eric Peterman, Derek Kinder,
TE – Michael Gaines, Kellen Davis
OL – Cody Balogh, Johan Asiata, Donovan Raiola
CB – Rudy Burgess, Corey Graham, Marcus Hamilton, Woodny Tuerenne, Trumaine McBride
FS/SS – Dahna Deleston, Josh Bullocks
DL – Matt Toeaina, Joe Clermond, Ervin Baldwin
LB – Hunter Hillenmeyer, Kevin Malast, Darrell McClover, Mike Rivera,
Offense: (27)
QB – Jay Cutler, Caleb Hanie, Brett Basanez (3)
RB – Matt Forte, Kevin Smith, Adrian Peterson, Garrett Wolfe (4)
FB – Jason McKie (1)
WR – Devin Hester, Earl Bennett, Rashied Davis, Juaqin Iglesias, Devin Aromashodu, Johnny Knox, Brandon Rideau (7)
TE – Greg Olsen, Desmond Clark, (2)
OL – Josh Beekman, Roberto Garza, Olin Kreutz, Orlando Pace, Chris Williams, Frank Omiyale, Kevin Shaffer, Dan Buenning, Lance Louis, Patrick Mannelly (10)
Defense (23)
CB – Zackary Bowman, Charles Tillman, Nathan Vasher, D.J. Moore, Rod Hood (5)
FS/SS – Daniel Manning, Al Afalava, Kevin Payne, Craig Steltz (4)
LB – Lance Briggs, Brian Urlacher, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Nick Roach, Jamar Williams, Marcus Freeman (6)
DT – Tommie Harris, Anthony Adams, Israel Idonije, Marcus Harrison (4)
DE – Alex Brown, Adawale Ogunleye, Jarron Gilbert, Henry Melton, Mark Anderson (5)
K/P – Robbie Gould, Brad Maynard (2)
Thats a pretty tough decision to make but I chose to keep R. Davis, Peterson, Anderson & Wolfe and cut Hillenmeyer, K. Davis and T. McBride.
whoops ...
offense was 28 … didn’t account for Mannelly in that tally. But, you get the point. There is a lot of talent on the team and I expect some very good players to be cut.
by Johnnynumber5 on Aug 31, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to rag
But NO WAY we take 7 WRs. I guarantee it and will admit it if I am wrong but 7 WRs is so overkill. I am thinking 5 WRs, with 4 TEs.
Six WR tops
Even with a pro-bowl caliber QB, I don’t think they’ll keep 7 WR’s. Knox did a lot for himself with the over the shoulder catch, so he’s in. I think that in the last preseason game we’ll see a lot of passes to Juaqin Iglesias, Devin Aromashodu and Brandon Rideau to select two of them. Iglesias seems as lost as Bennet last year, but he’s got a lot of potential.
In my opinion Rideau will edge Aromashodu by a slim margin and Aromashodu will be signed to the practice squad.
"There are plenty of guys out there who are bigger, stronger, or faster than me, but there is nobody-and I mean nobody-who tried harder than I do on the football field." - Mike Singletary
Nice job with the Rod Hood pickup
Our secondary needs help… badly.
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