The Bears Den - 8/5/09

by ChiFan13 on Aug 5, 2009 12:00 AM CDT in The Bears Den

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....where it's Day 6 of training camp and we're still a while away from September 13th.

In The Den

670 The Score

Laurence Holmes discusses Nathan Vasher and how he's not guaranteed a spot anymore.

Laurence Holmes has some strong (but accurate) feelings about Tommie Harris not practicing.

CBS Sports

Here's their training camp preview for the Bears.

ChicagoBears.com

Jon Hoke talked with Larry Mayer about Zackary Bowman and how the other DB's have performed.

Marcus Freeman writes another entry in his blog.

Chicago Sun-Times

Is Todd Haley trying to collect ex-Bears WR's?

Orlando Pace feels right at home with the coaching staff.

Maurice Miller joined the Bears, then failed his physical and was waived.

More links after the jump...

Chicago Tribune

OL Maurice Miller joined the Bears yesterday.

Jay Cutler showed his two-minute drill skills.

Henry Melton is hoping to return kicks for the Bears.

The Bears WR's are happy adapting to Jay Cutler's arm.

Brian Urlacher is confident of raising his level of play.

Daily Herald

Rookie Johnny Knox has been impressive thus far.

Jay Cutler's third day in pads weren't very impressive.

Matt Forte's feeling fine....just being cautious thus far.

Orlando Pace feels rejuvenated with the Bears.

Hanie and Basanez are battling to show they can do the job.

Zackary Bowman has been making the most of his opportunity.

ESPN Chicago

It wasn't a big surprise to Jeff Dickerson that Greg Olsen was placed as the starting TE.

News and notes from Tuesday's practice.

FOXSports

Cutler is giving the Bears hope in the NFC North and beyond.

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best line...

but Knox is one of the fastest players on the team and may have the softest hands of any receiver on the roster.

i think i hear the creaking of the door that’s quickly closing on rasheid…

Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.

by windycity72 on Aug 5, 2009 3:15 AM CDT reply actions

Is it Christmas

already?

by torch on Aug 5, 2009 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions

ESPN

John Clayton column on “five things he’s learned about the Bears.” link
Melissa Isaacson article on Urlacher and other seasoned veterans. link

Not sure if these were posted elsewhere, but I thought they were good reads.

- Smudgers

"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Aug 5, 2009 7:14 AM CDT reply actions

I posted a FanShot

on the first one

by torch on Aug 5, 2009 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions

Sorry about that.

- Smudgers

"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Aug 5, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions

no sweat

by torch on Aug 6, 2009 6:21 AM CDT up reply actions

After Terry Boers stirred up that rumor of Urlacher and Cutler fighting

I wouldn’t consider posting anything 670 the score says.

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 5, 2009 7:47 AM CDT reply actions

I didn't post anything about Boers's comments

Can’t take one or two individuals and lump everyone else in there together.

Example: Rick Morrissey is a goon, but David Haugh and Dan Pompei are good at their jobs. I don’t have contempt for the rest of the Trib writers because Rick Morrissey lives in fantasy land.

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Aug 5, 2009 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions

True, but Laurence Holmes is a numb nuts anyway

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 5, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions

There are people on the Score I despise

Laurence isn’t one of them. Laurence has decent thoughts most of the time, which is more than I can say for some of em (Exhibit A: Matt Spiegel).

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Aug 5, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Dude, You're about to open up a can of wax...

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 5, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions

Can o wax eh?

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Aug 5, 2009 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions

The Daily Herald article on Knox is one of the things that has always bothered me about this coaching staff.

Lovie and his crew don’t seem to develop young guys very well or even give them a chance unless they are high draft picks. Remember Zach Bowman last year? He was inactive for half of the season until injuries and terrible secondary play forced them to put him into the lineup and in his first game he was all-world. Unfortunately, he got hurt during that game, but the point is I have no confidence in their ability to develop players who are drafted after the 3rd or 4th round. They get too hung up on “their guys” at the expense of getting players like Knox the snaps they need to show what they can do.

by BearFan611 on Aug 5, 2009 7:55 AM CDT reply actions

total Nonsense

Marcus Harrison-3rd round pick
Israel Idonije- undrafted free agent.
Lance Briggs-third round
Nathan Vasher-4th round
Bernard Berrian-3rd round
Kyle Orton- 4th round
Earl Bennett-3rd round
Kevin Payne- 5th round
Mark Anderson-5th round

Bowman was inactive for the most part of last year because he had tender knees after surgery. If anything Lovie’s track record has been better with developing late round draft picks

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 5, 2009 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions

Look at my statement and then look at your list

I said “after the 3rd or 4th round” and all but two of the players you named are from the 3rd and 4th rounds…….

Also, Orton was ignored until Grossman went down and Hutchison proved he sucked and then they would never commit to him because Rex was the savior. Bennett was ignored last year because he was used at too many WR positions and couldn’t learn them, so we wasted an entire season with Marty Booker and Brandon Lloyd rather than develop a kid who now is one of the training camp sensations. I’m not convinced that he would be getting the chance now if it wasn’t for Cutler’s endorsement, so Lovie/Turner would have looked like complete jerks if they didn’t move him up.

I’ll give you Payne and Anderson, but even at that, they didn’t “develop” Anderson, in my opinion, they just let him use his one spin move and then handed him a job over a Pro Bowl alternate and it proved to be a mess. One of the things that has been written about Mark Anderson this year is that he needs to learn more than one technique if he is going to be effective. Marinelli is working on that now. Again, lack of development under Lovie and his staff.

by BearFan611 on Aug 5, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions

they didn’t "develop" Anderson, in my opinion, they just let him use his one spin move

You’re an idiot.

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 5, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions

I dunno....

I think he’s right….Anderson’s a one-trick pony.

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Aug 5, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions

yep

pass rush specialist who has disappeared since 06. one impressive year followed by two nonexistent isn’t a sign of devlopment. its a sign of a guy who is naturally athletic and the league adjusted.

that list doesn’t disprove anything he said.

by mike b on Aug 5, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions

Hey, GREAT response...

let us know when you get out of grade school.

by BearFan611 on Aug 5, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions

Oxymorons at it's finest.

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 5, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions

I don't believe it is as bad as you think. Examples: Chris Harris, Mark Anderson

Those were late round guys that got PT right away.
I haven’t heard anything from camp that would warrant putting Iglesias in over Rideau. Which is what the article suggested.
Now Knox, is a different story (which was also suggested in the article). Turner should be getting that guy on the field as much as possible. Though I don’t know that it’s Rideau, that Knox should be in front of as much as Davis.
Depth chart reading like this:
WR#1- Hester, Knox, Davis
WR#2- Bennett, Rideau, Iglesias

by rdent4hof on Aug 5, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions

I agree with you on the WR chart

but look what they ended up doing with Harris, although your point is well taken regarding his playing time. Anderson, (look at my reply to ifuwanna) I don’t feel they have really done a good job with his development.

by BearFan611 on Aug 5, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions

Hey,

I could throw up right now, regarding Harris :-( And I understand your point on development….
With Rivera, we were developing talent. After Rivera, not so much.
Lovie is ultimately responsible, though Babich and company certainly share in the blame…

Bottom line, Lovie made some positive changes on the coaching staff and I will critique this (partially) new staff accordingly.

by rdent4hof on Aug 5, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions

is it me

or does Larry Mayer look like Ray Romano?

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 5, 2009 8:30 AM CDT reply actions

It's hard to tell...

he rarely has his head out of Angelo’s a$$ long enough to see what he looks like!

by BearFan611 on Aug 5, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions

Rashied Davis

Tom Waddle on the Waddle & Silvy show just said that the best overall wide receiver he saw yesterday was Rashied Davis.

I just puked in my mouth.

by tripsevens on Aug 5, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions

I don't believe you

I need proof. There’s no way that’s true.

I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 5, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions

the podcast i heard

had one of the guys saying he told rasheid to bring a butterfly net with him when he goes on the field!!!

Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.

by windycity72 on Aug 5, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions

Re: Rashied Davis

He even mentioned that nobody is going to like to hear this…

I have lost all respect for Waddle as a football analyst.

by tripsevens on Aug 5, 2009 9:42 AM CDT reply actions

He was right

I don’t like it.

I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 5, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 5, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions

Who Is #70

I was watching a video of D-Line drills. There was a guy wearing 70 who was moving really well. On the Bears team site no one is listed with that number. Who is it?

by Shuffle85 on Aug 5, 2009 1:55 PM CDT reply actions