Zackary Bowman Injured
by Dane Noble on Aug 5, 2009 2:14 PM CDT
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PrintNot sure the extent of the injury, but it looks like Zack Bowman is done for the day, as he was injured during 7- on- 7drills today. We cannot afford to have any more injuries in our already weak defensive backfield.
Helmet-tip to ifuwannacrownem.
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not a big deal
it seems minor and it happened at the bigging of camp, so he has time to get back.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
I understand that it's not a serious injury and al
but I think him missing time will hinder the progress of both him, Cutler, and the receivers he going up against.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 5, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear ya
but I really don’t think that Bowman is that elite that he’s going to hurt Cutler’s progress.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 5, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
What?
One great game doesn’t tell you he’s a good practice match-up for a Pro-bowl QB?
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
He's a good practice match-up
But why would that make him good enough to hurt Cutler’s progress? Peanut not being in hurts Cutler more than a hurt Bowman.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 5, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
ah.
I totally missed your sarcasm just there.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 5, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, you got it though!
It’s not always easy to recognize sarcasm via the internet.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
None of you deserve to be ball busters
Based on seniority, ifuwanna definitely doesn’t. I out rank both of you:)
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 5, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Reply Fail
you’ve just proved your point :)
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 5, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
actually when I sent that message my computer froze
I don’t know why it sent that up here. I’m smarter than that.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 5, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
this is what i read...
Smith said Bowman is day-to-day and called the situation “worrisome”.
worrisome?!?!?! what is that supoosed to mean when your HC calls it “worrisome”?!?! it’s not like this guy doesn’t have a track record of injurues already… i’ll continue to be “worrisome” til he’s back on the field. i guess it’s time to see what corey graham is made of… wonder if they’ll give moore reps with the 1st team now…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
Allow my friend, Baba to calm your soul with some breathing exercises
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 5, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
woosah!!! woosah!!!
i guess it’s one way to get the younger guys reps(although, not the preferred method)… this is hit #3 to our secondary, and i’m not liking what is unfolding. by the looks of it, manning will be playing FS, nickel, and corner… ALL AT THE SAME TIME!!!
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by the looks of it, manning will be playing FS, nickel, and corner… ALL AT THE SAME TIME!!!
Lovie, meanwhile, will be saying how he “like(s) what (he’s) seeing out there” and that “Manning’s doing some good things that we’re excited about” …..
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
bleepity bleep bleep bleep.
Deep down, we were all worried about this.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Injuries are part of the game
Millions in SF are up-in-arms over how hard Mike Singletary is working the 49ers.
He is even having the team do the dreaded "Nutcraker Drill.’ Oh God! Say it ain’t so, Mike. Don’t you KNOW that today’s players are soft?
No team worked harder in camp (and during the season) than the ‘85 Bears.
It was personal between Buddy’s defense and Ditka’s offense.
The players said that they looked forward to Sunday because playing the opponent was always easier than playing ‘Da Bears.’
The ’85 Bears (outside of Jim McMahon) had almost NO injuries during the entire season (perhaps they were in better condition——maybe they were just lucky).
GeauxBears:
In HONOR of you, I (once again) managed to work BOTH Mike Singletary and the ’85 Bears on a 2009 Chicago Bear post.
Cat. Swimming. Pool.
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by Dane Noble on Aug 5, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Are the Bears even your favorite football team?
Because I swear I could see you as being a Cards and Niners fan.
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GB
I HATE the Cards. Really. I love Warner & Boldin & Adrian Wilson. They are true warriors.
I think Whisenhunt is completly overrated. He himself, on a show called ‘Homecoming with Rick Reilly’ about Kurt Warner, got on camera and told Warner & Reilly that he thought Warner was toast (which helps explain why he CONSTANTLY named Leinart the starter over Warner the past TWO seasons).
That and a bunch of other things (like STUPIDLY passing on Adrian Peterson to draft Levi Brown) are evidence of his ‘being overrated’ to me (in fact, I was banned from "Revenge of the Birds’ for DARING to suggest that Whisenhunt wasn’t GOD).
Singletary? He was one of the greatest Bears of all and never should have been turned down for a coaching job in 2002 with the Chicago Bears.
I wish nothing but the very best for Mike Singletary (even with the HATED 49ers).
Singletary
will have a hard time winning anything if his roster is depleted.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Deplete by what?
Busting Ass?
’85 Bears (GeoMak said for the thousandth time).
Killed each other in practice.
Almost NO injuries.
I’m not following here.
The world is a lot different than it was 24 years ago
one idiot complaining on twitter… and the dropping trou incident isn’t even the biggest joke anymore.
That was twenty-four years ago
For everytime it’s worked, add ten where it doesn’t work. Busting ass is one thing, but another when your best players are over worked and/or injured. I believe there’s a happy medium between bustin’ your ass and being sensible during training camp.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Do some research
about guys like Jimmy Johnson, Dick Vermeil, Tom Coughlin and others regarding the way they ran camp.
All won SB’s. All ran a tough camp.
Not too many teams win SB’s because they ran a soft camp.
A lot of this is semantics...
running a “tough camp” shouldn’t be hitting just for the sake of hitting, but live tackling is the only way to really practice and perfect technique on both sides of the ball. What I think GeoMak is referring to when talking about Ditka’s Bears, Jimmy Johnson’s Cowboys, etc. is that they didn’t just make their teams do “run-throughs” during training camp the way Lovie did for awhile but actually put them through game conditions to get ready for the hitting and become better tacklers and blockers. If I’m putting words in your mouth, correct me.
This is what I'm talking about
Gerry Philbin talking about the great Buddy Ryan:
I played under him at the University of Buffalo and with the Jets. It got mean, cruel. I’ve never seen anyone better at bringing the animal out of you. If you didn’t hit as hard as he wanted, he’d humiliate you in front of everyone. Guys like me loved him, though. He was just so brutally honest.
Football is about physical domination and a mental belief that you are superior to your opponent.
It’s not a GD dance recital.
Refer back to this part of my post
I believe there’s a happy medium between bustin’ your ass and being sensible during training camp.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for running a tight ship and bustin’ ass on the practice field, but I think it’s conducive for the team as a whole to be relatively healthy when the season starts.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
You said
Singletary will have a hard time winning anything if his roster is depleted.
That sounds like injuries to me. You seem to be making a correlation between busting ass in camp and injuries.
I don’t buy it.
Now, if you are talking about the players being exhausted, that I can see.
In Dick Vermeil’s second season with St. Louis, the players almost went on strike because of Vermeil’s brutal practices.
They didn’t do that because of ‘injuries.’ They did that because they said they were so exhausted that they couldn’t even play with their kids.
Busting ass = injuries? Not to me.
Busting ass = possibly being exhausted? That I can see.
When I say healthy
I basically mean being 100% at the start of the season. If that includes not being “exhausted,” I’m for that as well.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I cannot believe
you’re still using “do some research” as your catch phrase.
Can we move past SB XX please?
Catch phrase?
I’ve probably said that two or three times in four or five months.
Move beyond SB XX. Yeah, you’re right. Let’s ignore not only the greatest team in Bear history, but the consensus greatest team in NFL history.
Nothing to be learned from those guys.
Let’s wax poetic about the Wannstedt years, or the Jauron years . . . etc.
Everytime someone says something you disagree with
it seems to be your come back.
And the only person here waxing poetic is you… and you’ve done waxed the poetry out of SB XX.
Which, if you did your research, you’d know was nearly a quarter century ago. I’d rather learn lessons from people who’ve won a SB recently. Like the Pats or the Giants or the Steelers.
Not from a game 25 years ago. Not that there isn’t good things to know from then… but you’ve beaten them into the ground. And it is beyond annoying.
Everytime?
Like i said, I’ve used it a handful of times.
Big difference between the two.
The Giants of 2007? Tom Couglin? He’s a direct link from Parcells to Lombardi.
Brutal practices.
Belichick & Tomlin. Those guys aren’t known for being soft (LOL).
BTW: Any Bear fan that gets annoyed by the greatest team in Bear history kind of makes me wonder.
I used the ‘85 Bears on a Bears blog as a direct counter to his claim about a team being depleted. Kind of as a ’close to home’ example.
If that great Bears team wasn’t depleted by brutal practices, what does that say?
They weren't wearing leather helmets back then.
The longest tenured HC in the NFL is Jeff Fisher. In 1985 he was an unofficial coach for Buddy Ryan.
Three others from that team (Mike Singletary, Leslie Frazier and Ron Rivera) are also NFL coaches.
Apply some logic here. Singletary was a part of that team and has been an assistant coach for the past six years.
I’m guessing that (after being an assistant in 2000’s) if he feels that his players would benefit from a brutal camp, then he probably knows.
He probably knows what he’s doing. He probably knows more than you (or me) as to what his team needs.
He probably knows more than …me
I find that hard to believe. He probably hasn’t done his research, and isn’t endlessly beating a championship game from over 20 years ago to death, so how can he?
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
Poster child for past glory!
Just because Singletary was part of that team, doesn’t guarantee anything as a head coach.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
More to it that a tough practice
Championships are won on toughness, but it’s toughness combined with outstanding technique that produces the durability required to last in today’s NFL. Almost all championship teams ran tough camps, it’s true. Some of them were God-awful. But what makes the difference between running a stupid hit-happy wreckless camp and a solid, tough, hard-hitting camp, is the amount of emphasis placed on technique. If you run right, throw right, hit right, you’re gonna last a lot longer than if you just hit hard, run hard and throw hard. The amount of emphasis on bio-mechanics in sports of late proves this point. If you want to last, your technique has to be every bit as effective as your brute strength and desire.
Of course there's no guarantee.
When did I say that?
Never.
Of course there’s no guarantee. That’s an OBVIOUS statement.
Here’s what Singletary said:
“Singletary dismissed the suggestion that his demanding practices might be putting the team at risk of a longer injury list. "All I know is that football is a contact sport. It’s a collision sport,’’ he said. “Injuries happen.”
If you disagree; fine.
You can find that kind of attitude, starting with Lombardi in the Super Bowl era, through guys like Parcells and Vermeil and Jimmy Johnson and Coughlin and now Mike Singletary and many, many others.
Those results speak for themselves.
I don't disagree
but you act as if he’s almost assured a spot in Canton cause he’s cut from the same cloth as those coaches.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
uhh, he's already in canton.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 6, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
As a coach
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I really wasn't going to respond
but this has just completely pissed me off.
BTW: Any Bear fan that gets annoyed by the greatest team in Bear history kind of makes me wonder.
I’m not annoyed by the “greatest team in Bear history” I’m annoyed BY YOU! Always preaching at me about something that happened before I was was able to walk.
The last time my favorite team in my second favorite sport won a championship was a 100 years ago… does that mean I should wax poetic about the great IF of Tinkers, Evers and Chance? Does that mean I should look at them to figure “the true way” to win a championship?
No it ruddy well doesn’t. B/C the eras are completely different. Just like they are between now and football 25 years ago. Its an offense driven, finesse league now MUCH more so than it was then.
You also seem to think that there is no space between being soft and babying your players and beating them into the ground with “nutbusters”. Turn off your hyperbole machine and you’d get a better response. Or just go pound sand.
by Allie on Aug 6, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ifuwanna,,,
Different approach… same result.
You sir, are 0/3.
If you wanna get back on board, you gotta get your average up.
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One day
I WILL beat the system!
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by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 7, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Love Warner? etc.
Nice players. Talented. Other teams are full of talented players I’d love to have too but love?! Love?!! Dude!! I love only the Bears! The CHICAGO BEARS! Respect? Sure. Love? Not a BLEEPIN’ chance. I quietly question your loyalty.
I love Kurt Warner and Boldin
and guys like Lawrence Taylor and Ronnie Lott and Reggie White and Steve Atwater for the way they play (played) the game.
Warner kept coming back when everybody (including his HC in Arizona) told him he was pretty much done.
Boldin missed two games (three weeks) after his face was broken.
Most guys when have packed it in (and still collected their paycheck).
BTW: When you say nice/talented those two (Warner & Boldin) will be borderline HOF players. That’s a little more than nice.
Say WHAT ain't so
(They don’t charge by the word here, so feel free to elaborate——-hopefully in an INTELLIGENT manner).
Uh, just what is this post about Geo??
Di I need to elaborate?
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
That Zack Bowman is hurt.
you really dont like me do you?
by Staleystan595455 on Aug 5, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
All I was saying is that injuries happen.
The Eagles lost their starting MLB for the season the other day.
That’s why depth is nice to have.
Don't mind Geo...
He seems hell-bent on getting banned for insulting other members and being a troll.
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Quick Ditkavsworld. This comment needs a pic.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Noooooo!
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
by Ashley Czuba on Aug 6, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Yup.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 6, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Does this work?
Not a troll, but maybe a gnome is close enough.
That's mine, btw
And yes, I give myself permission to post it.
Really nice pic.
But somehow even I picture Geo as more, well, masculine. Just as evil looking, but without the breasts.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Do YOU know what Stanley meant
when he said “Say it ain’t so?”
I sure don’t
Considering the fact that we got in a heated exchange a few weeks ago, it sounded like a ‘shot’ at me.
I don’t mind people taking shots at me. Fire away.
At least TELL me what you mean.
Saying “Say it ain’t so” is almost meaningless without further clarification.
Of course I did
look at the title of the post “Zackary Bowman Injured” followed by Stanley saying “Say it isn’t so”.
GeoMak...
In my mind, GeoMak had no ground to stand on when they assumed Staleystan might be taking a shot (at Geo) with their post…
However, if you read GeoMak’s post right before staley’s:
He is even having the team do the dreaded "Nutcraker Drill.’ Oh God! Say it ain’t so, Mike. Don’t you KNOW that today’s players are soft?
I find it more than just highly coincidental that Staley decides to use those choice words in the very next post…. If not a shot, then something close to it. I think it was fair to ask what staley meant, considering the same word usage an unhappy face.
Clearly....
I changed my mind and think Geo did have ground to stand on, after I considered the facts. :-D
You even had me going back to check
he actually had two comments after that. If i wanted to take a shot at Geo i would of replied to his comment. Highly coincidental or not it still was a coincidence i have no reason to lie this IS the internet you know. Thanks for playing though.
by Staleystan595455 on Aug 5, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
AND TRUST ME
I have no intention of arging with Geo it is not fun. Also I am not a Troll and would not pick a fight with someone for no reason unless they take a shot at the bears. But after seeing that I see why Geo got after me about it.
by Staleystan595455 on Aug 5, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Shot at you?
The title of the post is Zack Bowman Injured. I commented say it aint so with a sad face for good measure. It wasnt attached to your comment as a reply. and you should move on from the heated exchange lol it was more like a healthy debate until it started getting personal and i stopped did i not? On another note i agree with what you said about the depth but i would really like to see Bowman have a good injury free season. Especially because of all the good things we have heard about him so far.
by Staleystan595455 on Aug 5, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I took it as a reponse to me
(in part based on our difference of opinion a ‘few weeks back’).
If that’s all you meant (that Bowman ) was injured then let me honestly and sincerely apologize to you!
Be honest, Between GeoMak and myself
who’s your favorite ball-buster?
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 5, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Well said
that’s just evil. That’s like a somebody calling me Maurey when my name’s actually Kelvin.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 5, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
On WCG, ifuwanna?
Who’s my favorite ball buster here?
I don’t have one.
I don’t take any of this personally.
Some like me here (more don’t).
BTW: You ARE in contention as one of my favorite BALL BUSTERS!
Isn't that a little like asking
what’s your favorite VD?
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Not saying you guys are some kind of venereal disease or anything...
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
But if they were any kind of VD
they’d probably be the kind that flares up everyonce in awhile and your stuck with it for life. Kinda like Herpes.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
Or hemmoroids (not that its vd, just following your theme...)
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I gotcha
You went with the flare up theme. Good on ya. Nicely done.
I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T
by Ditkavsworld on Aug 5, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess it could be considered VD, depending on your preference.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that…
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
So many choices...
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 5, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks for the laugh...
i needed it right about now…
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
The larger pattern
A hammy strain in and of itself is no big deal. The problem is this latest setback fits in with the larger pattern of Bowman being a player of tremendous ability who just can’t stay healthy, neither at the college nor pro levels. If he could stay healthy he could be our top CB before long. But right now he’s following the same disturbing pattern as Dvoracek, and others.
Be fair, though, it seems like a number of these promising DBs that Angelo has drafted in later rounds – the ones that we’re giving him credit for unearthing – were touted as early-round talents whose stock fell due to injuries.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
I hate seeing hamstring inuries.
That’s one of those that can easily linger and affect the entire season. It’s not like it can be taped or shot up (at least not as effectively as other things), it just needs time that they don’t have. I just hope it’s just tweaked and not really pulled.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
Looks like
We might get a decent look a DJ Moore now
Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.
Time for more of that...
Lovie Smith Kool-aid! Now let’s see some DJ Moore action!
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