Bears Tried To Land Another QB
by Dane Noble on Aug 9, 2009 10:49 AM CDT
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Say what you will about Caleb Hanie and Brett Basanez, but maybe the Bears are still a little uncertain of their backup QBs. According to this article, we made a play for Andrew Walter, who recently signed with the Patriots (see #5).
There aren't many names that are left out there that are intriguing free agents (Bollinger, Dorsey, Green), so I wonder what will happen if Hanie and Basenez fail to impress during the preseason? Brad Biggs mentions that neither have stood out in training camp thus far.
Caleb Hanie and Brett Basanez have not done a lot to stand out a training camp that has been dominated by Cutler. Hanie has flashed his ability to keep plays alive with his legs, and Basanez has made the occasional throw. The test for them will come when preseason begins and Hanie is expected to receive plenty of work Saturday at Buffalo. Basanez is the only one with NFL game experience. He threw 11 passes at Carolina in 2006. Stay tuned.
Only six more days until Preseason Game #1!
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If those 2 look terrible...
is Griese still out there? Not my 1st choice, but he’s a veteran that knows the system.
Any vet that does come in will know he’s not going to supplant Cutler.
by wiltfongjr on Aug 9, 2009 10:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
but I do not see that happening. I think Griese left on bad terms and has no love for Turner and Smith.
The only name I see that even intrigues me is Trent “Where am I” Green. He could spell Cutler effectively and be a Griese-like backup, but he couldn’t take more than a few game’s worth of hits. Honestly, Hanie is sufficient and should be kept to develop as a back-up specifically, not the long list of underdeveloped Bear’s QBs thrown into the mix who were simply not ready to do the job. Besides, there will be a few veteran QBs available as roster cuts are made before the end of preseason and the Bears, unlike many other teams can actually win without a legit QB. See the last 30 or so years of Bears games for reference.
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever"-D St Hubbins Spinal Tap
by LostInSTL on Aug 9, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Cutler goes down the season is screwed anyways, so why not see what we have in Hanie and Basanez if that occurred.
If we’re going to lose I’d rather it be with our own guys rather than some reject off the street. I mean really, how much confidence would you have in any of the veterans available out there? There’s a reason none of them have been signed.
by BigGeorgeTX on Aug 9, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Wonder If That's What New England's Mentality Was
Once Bledsoe went down in 2001…
by PaulieK14 on Aug 9, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WAKE UP PEOPLE!
we finally get a franchise QB and we’re still fixated on the backups???
Jee wiz
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 9, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You think anybody was worried in Indy about Sorgi Being Manning's backup
or Cassel to Tom Brady?
Even Injury prone Donovan McNabb in philly, nobody cares.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 9, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
F*ck Kolb.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 9, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're too funny.
- Smudgers
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by smudgers on Aug 9, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can be proud of our franchise QB
and still try and get the best depth behind him as possible. Just because we have Cutler doesn’t mean that nothing else matters anymore.
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by Dane Noble on Aug 9, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bill Belichick is a soon to be hall of fame coach who's won three superbowls
would you say he was concerned about “the best depth” behind Brady? Rohan Davey. Cassel. Testaverde. Flutie.(two guys who’s careers were at their end)
no. he didn’t go after the big names. he made sound decisions and took players that could step in and deliver.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 9, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard this same argument on Boers and Bernstein
And though I think having our starting QB is great and worrying too much about the backup may not make a lot of sense, I think it’s fair to find out what our option would be if Cutler went down. If we lose him for the season I agree it doesn’t matter, but say we lost him week 10 and we’re in a division battle with GB and Cutler is going to miss 2-3 weeks? I can guarentee the first word out of fan’s mouths will be “Where the hell is the backup”! I said it before, I’ll say it again, keeping Rex would have made too much sense to keep at backup. Too bad the fans wouldn’t have tolerated it.
by Dils on Aug 9, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, But I'd rather take my chances on a guy that's been in the system a couple years(Hanie)
then grabbing somebody off the street. if they were so good, they wouldn’t be a free agent still, now would they?
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 9, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not everyone that's cut from a team or is a free agent is worthless, sometimes it is situational.
I agree that I’d like to see the better of the Hanie/Basanez dual get the snaps as a backup, but I would be much more comfortable with someone who has played at this level available if Cutler were to go down for a game or two. I don’t think anyone really believes we’re going to run away with the division even if Cutler stays healthy, so why not have some insurance? Dils is right, if we miss the playoffs by a game because of poor backup QB play, we’ll all be ready to string Angelo up by the neck. Don’t put them ahead of your young guy in camp, but a veteran as #3 instead of 2 completely untested kids makes a lot more sense.
by BearFan611 on Aug 9, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a veteran as #3 instead of 2 completely untested kids makes a lot more sense.
No. It does not. a QB that’s been in the system longer makes more sense than a veteran who just got signed in the middle of training camp. I’d rather go with an untested kid who has potential rather than a veteran who failed to live up to his(see Patriots 2001 season)
you need not look far for examples. look at the 2007 season. Brian Griesie threw for a chunkload of yards, but wasn’t more effective than Grossman because he turned the ball over just as much. when they went with Orton, it was too little to late as injuries had already taken their toll on the team. but even as a third stringer with a horrendous rookie season, Orton was more effective than the veteran Greaseball.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 9, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'll continue to disagree on this
Basanez has only been in the system a few months. A veteran can pick up enough in a few weeks to be usable.
by BearFan611 on Aug 9, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw Basanez
I’m talking about Hanie.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 9, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you're saying exactly the same thing I said in the first post!!!!!
Don’t put them ahead of your young guy in camp, but a veteran as #3 instead of 2 completely untested kids makes a lot more sense
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I never said put a veteran ahead of Hanie, but having one on the team in case of an emercency is better than having 2 kids who have no experience.
by BearFan611 on Aug 10, 2009 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but you also said
I agree that I’d like to see the better of the Hanie/Basanez dual get the snaps as a backup, but I would be much more comfortable with someone who has played at this level available if Cutler were to go down for a game or two.
your words have confused me.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 10, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right, I wasn't real clear on that...
what I meant was that I prefer Hanie, but I’m not the one making the decision, so I’d like to see them decide on which of the young guys they’d like to see as the #2(hoefully Hanie), then go out and get a veteran for the emergency slot.
by BearFan611 on Aug 10, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see that
but I’d rather go with Hanie (who has similar tools to Cutler and can use the same playbook) then with a “veteran”.
If Cutler goes down for an extended period, we’re screwed anyway. I’d rather have Hanie get the experience in that case then have to watch Griese again.
by Allie on Aug 10, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I just think that if it comes down to a 1 or 2 game stretch that might be the difference between going to the playoffs or sitting at home, AGAIN THIS YEAR, I think a veteran gives you a better chance to bridge that gap.
by BearFan611 on Aug 10, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Cutler sprains an ankle
and is out for a week, you can go Orton “game manager” with Hanie and give a huge dose of Forte/Jones.
I think we’d be fine for a week or two of that.
by Allie on Aug 10, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, now your giving me a migraine!!!!
Just kidding, hope your feeling better and I’d say “Great Job” on the Tweets, but I have no idea what those are!!!!!
by BearFan611 on Aug 10, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Basanez has to pick up the snap first... before he can do anything else.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Aug 10, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree
Rex would have been a wonderful back-up. He’s not good. But he knows the system and we’ve won with/in spite of him. But there is no way the fans would have allowed that.
by Edicus2288i on Aug 9, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude we love our qb
but you see what happened to tom brady week one? our team isnt all around solid like the pats YET or look at the cowboys who were doing well but romo is out for a month season gets screwed
i honestly wished we kept rex at backup he knew the system and would not be AS hated with cutler around anyone feel similar?
by Bear Lovin 21 on Aug 9, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
back-up
go with who you have, dont be using roster space for has beens or invalids
by stepeo on Aug 9, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Should have got
Jeff Garcia when was avaliable. He put every team he played for in the playoffs or at least help them get there.
You live by the sword, you die by the sword.
by DA_BEARS on Aug 9, 2009 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pick up Michael Vick as a Back-up
The Bears should make a play for Michael Vick. He needs a home and some team to give him a chance. Plus he is better then any back-up you can think of right now. Tell me what you think…good or bad.
by ChiTownBoi on Aug 9, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Die
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 9, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be honest, are you one of Vicks propaganda stooges?
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by ifuwannacrownem on Aug 9, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did his time for the dog crap!!!
Now it’s trime to give him a second chance. You have players that have done things that has affected families, but nobody is dragging those player’s down.
by ChiTownBoi on Aug 9, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vick is a running QB
I would rather have a veteran that can manage the game
by CutlerDabears on Aug 9, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did his time
He is still a good QB. So why not give him a second chance?
by ChiTownBoi on Aug 9, 2009 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you have players who have killed people
Who are still in the nfl but nobody wants to let Vick back in when he served a real sentence not some short term slap on the wrist because I’m a celebrity sentence. He has good value as a back-up because you can put him in for the wildcat and things like that.
by Ryan21 on Aug 9, 2009 3:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Unfounded that he is "still a good QB"
I’m pro dog/animal lover. I’m not against Vick getting a second chance. It’s debatable that Vick was ever a “good enough” QB. It’s very questionable as to how he will be able to perform before getting the rust off or while getting the rust off. I think he should be used elsewhere. A “slash” type player would suit him better…I think. What do I know?
by IndiaSummer on Aug 9, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Griese
If something were to happen to Cutler, I’m sure Griese would be in a Bears uniform the next day.
I am excited to see what Hanie can do in the pre-season and think it is best you give the time to the young guys to see if there is anything there. Although Hanie doesn’t have the arm strength that Cutler has, he does have a similar escapability, that would mean the playcalls/game plan wouldn’t have to change drastically with him in.
If Cutler were expected to miss significant time though, I’m sure Griese would be called in, and Hanie would be on a short leash.
by Casimir Effect on Aug 9, 2009 1:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
#4
- is still out there. Let’s face it, that laid back hillbilly is still training because he only wants to play 8-12 games this season. He’ll be ready to step in by week 4 if a team needs him. I’m still dreaming of the headline that reads “Favre, Bears, destroy Packers 52-3”
by IndiaSummer on Aug 9, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It depends on the situation.
If the Bears are 5-0 and Cutler suffers a season ending injury, then one of these two back-ups will get one chance to take over the team. The Bears have a long history of limited success with inferior Quarterbacks. But if Brett Favre is still out there, a mid-season return to the NFL isn’t out of the question. If the Bears have a losing record and Cutler gets injured, there’s no way they bring in a new QB.
by BryanN on Aug 9, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But if Brett Favre is still out there, a mid-season return to the NFL isn’t out of the question.
i just threw up in my mouth a little bit
by lolcopter on Aug 9, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm, should we have kept Rex?
He came in and played well for a backup IMHO..
by Mathias-K on Aug 10, 2009 10:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NO!
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 10, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have
a number 1 QB, instead of getting a “veteran” who has seen a real NFL game, why dont we go with what we have, Hanie looks decent so far, and maybe address the areas that dont have players that are doing awesome in their position (see wide receiver/safeties/corners)
Cutler isn’t going down this season(knock on wood)
Michael Vick would be poison on this team, and we completely aren’t built for him anyways.
Favre? uh… yeah, no.
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 10, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And
it says that Hanie and Basanez havent STOOD OUT in camp, we don’t need our back-up qb to stand out, we just need them to not screw up.
I would debate you, but that would only lead to me being dragged away in handcuffs...
by BearNecessities on Aug 10, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i can't believe what i'm reading
in some of these posts!!! are we REALLY questioning letting rex go?!?!?! i defended him WAY LONGER THAN MOST, and maybe that’s why there’s NO love, but really?!?! give me hanie, and hope for the best. it’s not like cutler has a past plagued with injuries
Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear.
by windycity72 on Aug 11, 2009 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Really though, we barely beat the FU***** Lions AT Soldier Field with Grossman last year. Am I wrong? The 0-16 Lions. Am I wrong? Am I Wrong?
by rdent4hof on Aug 11, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On ESPN 08/10/2009
There are 5 teams interested in Michael Vick. Are the Bears and Vikings two of those Five teams? Time will tell and we should know more by the end of the weak. In regards to Rex Grossman I have a one word statement. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo!
by Gesiakob on Aug 11, 2009 1:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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