Bears Fall To Packers 21-15
by Adam T on Sep 13, 2009 10:56 PM CDT
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There are two ways to look at this. One. Cutler had 4 INTs, the Bears inexperienced WRs may have been the reason for 3 of them, we lost a ton of guys to injury, we had a horrible fake punt snap and Vasher sucks. Or two, we had to have played the worse game we are going to and we still had this game won until....Vasher sucked.
This is going to keep everybody in the Bears organization in full throttle to fix a lot of things. I'm sure the Bears are hoping that they will have Bowman and Tillman back for the full game next week and that will fix our secondary. More importantly the Bears have some serious issues at both the receiver spot and offensive line. The Bears will probably sit on what they have for receivers. Earl Bennet, Devin Hester and Johnny Knox all had good games overall. They will just be spending a lot of time watching tape and talking about cutting off routes. The offensive line on the other hand looked down right horrible at times. The Bears are going to have to do something there or Cutler is going to be running a lot this year.
So to recap, Favre wins, Orton wins and Cutler loses.
Cutler did have 277 yards and 1 TD in an otherwise horrible performance. That does speak well of what can happen.
Despite the problems with their routes the Bears young receivers had good games.
Hester had 4 catches for 90 yards
Knox had 2 catches for 82
Bennett had 7 catches for 88 yards
Your turn and try to keep the doomsday speak to a minimum:)
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Just for those of you on the over under.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
why does every packer fan I've ever met have my phone number?
they don’t make enough booze for this.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" - Ditka
by EricEmpire on Sep 13, 2009 11:00 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm not happy. But...
I’m not completely distraught either. LIke WCG said, we played terrible and almost won. Hopefully the injuries won’t be too serious and we’ll get back those guys. The run game needs to improve and fast. And the receivers need some work this week on route running.
Bright spot for me- the D line played pretty well. Ogun had a great game. Liked the safety. And sadly the only big play we give up is at the end. Vasher needs to go. And somebody go kick Lovie or Manelly (and I love Manelly) in the nuts for that fake punt crap. I mean jeebus…
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. NOW GET YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME!
If 16 hadn't played back to protect it
It would have been a huge play. Not a bad play call but not on 4th and 11.
Formerly Scespy12... needed a better name!
by Eaten by Bears on Sep 13, 2009 11:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
regardless
you don’t try that shit on your opponents 20.
It was the 33 but good point.
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by Eaten by Bears on Sep 14, 2009 9:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
We'll be
okay. It was tough to watch all those picks and have the Grossman flashbacks, but really, come second half he was on fire and he looked like what we paid for. It’s going to take him time to get used to the receiving corp he has now.
Vasher looked half good, half awful. I’m more concerned with all the injuries we took in one friggin half.
We’re gonna be fine. We KNEW this game was going to be down to the wire, and we damn near got out of it alive.
Packers secondary is one of the best
We played a tough team, we showed some weaknesses, but I’d be alot more pissed if it “L” agaisnt DET or CLE, so I’ll take this one.
The sun will shine in '69
The defense started well, but the game made Urlacher look incredibly important in stopping the run. We lose Urlacher, they start being able to run well, and we bite on the play action pass that gave up the game-winning touchdown.
As for Cutler, a lot of those interceptions were definitely because of poor routes, miscommunications, etc., but I’m pissed that we had no timeouts at the end of the half. That was definitely because of Mannelly, which was just a dumb move. Frankly, in a game that was so evenly matched, it was about who would screw up first, and we got away with six before it really mattered.
Anyone have any idea
how Urlacher got hurt? Or McBride (whom I don’t care about)? Or Pisa? Or Omiyale? Or Desmond for that matter, that was a pretty weak looking hit.
Yeah but,
Cutler still needs to make better decisions sometimes. I know high risk equals high reward but throwing into quadrupal coverage is crazy. He had four picks not to mention 3-4 dropped interceptions by the packers. There is a good side to yesterday’s game though, The only way to go is up. I’m just sayin’ "Cutler does appear to be somewhat of a whiner, just play ball. Sort of like Zambrano for the Cubs. When things are not going their way they let it negatively effect there production. Get your mind right man and get us to the Super Bowl.
I'll just copy what I said in the other gamethread....
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What the hell happened?!?!
This isn’t how Cutler was supposed to play, this isn’t how he played in the Preseason.
He is entering Sexy "**** it I’m goin’ deep!" Rexy territory right now. This game was just painful to watch….
At least the Cardinals played a close game, this one was just a heartbreaker after what Cutler did tonight.
problems
cutler just needs to step back, calm down, and make better decisions. I don’t know what was up with our OL, but they weren’t giving him any time.
If u look at it, we were so close, even with all the offensive turnovers. i hope bowman takes vasher’s job, vasher definitely can’t cover anymore. knox looks good.
I also hope the injuries aren’t bad. I don’t know what it is, but we always have this problem.
and i pray to god forte is better than he was tonight. looked god awful, but i think it was more on the OL not getting him holes.
FWIW
I only thought two of the picks were his fault. The pick by Jolly in the redzone was just an exceptional play, and the pick by Harris at the end of the game was more Knox’s fault than Cutler’s. That was a weak effort to make that catch.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 14, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Get the fixes out of football
You can tell the fix was in on the game. A long snapper calling a dumb audible on 4th and long deep in their own territory. A veteran at that. Then Green Bay going for two points in order to cover the 5.5 point spread on the betting line. All I must say is a lot of money had to of been bet on Chicago. I wish that they would take those B.S. fix calls out of football and let them play.
No doomsday
at least not yet… i agree that the wr’s were makin some stupid mistakes but all of them are young and in experienced. and they are who i am basically blaming for the bad qb play. well that and our line.. but at least we should be able to fix the wr thing..
and yeah.. vasher needs to be gone.. they should make him and whoever encouraged/ made the call for vash to start walk home tonight.. i mean the one play where he finally is… ya know what im not gonna go off on it.. just drink and hopefully not cry..
other than vash our D was explosive, till the urlacher injury (when did that happen?)
next week will be better, tougher game, but we’ll be better
the reason we lost...
… is
- not because Urlacher got hurt
- not because Cutler through 4 interceptions
- not because of the horrible fake punt
- not because of Vasher getting toasted
The reason we lost is because we couldn’t get a TD when we had the ball on the GB 3 yard line at the end of the game.
If we get a TD there, we go up by either 5 or, if we get the conversion, 7. Either way, it totally changes the complexion of that final 2 minute drill. It forces GB to take far more risks with the ball, it allows our D-Line to pin their ears back and really go after the QB, and we almost certainly play a safer defense where there is 0% chance Vasher gets left alone on an island in single coverage against Jennings.
THAT was the ballgame…failing to get the TD at the end.
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And to put the game in perspective, if I would have told anyone here earlier in the week that we would go into this game, on the road in Lambeau, and we would have:
- one starting LB getting hurt virtually on the first play
- Urlacher getting hurt and missing the entire second half
- Cutler throwing 3 first-half INT’s
- failing at a fake punt attempt inside our own 30 yard line
And yet we would have the lead with 2:00 left in the game… I suspect 99% of the people here would say, “I’ll take those odds.”
Despite how horribly we played in SOOOOO many ways, there is a lot of positive we can take from this. We sucked tonight, but if we can get things cleaned up I see the potential to have a very, very dangerous team here.
But he didn't call the FB dive.....
I know I was shocked too.
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. NOW GET YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME!
by Ditkavsworld on Sep 14, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Yup
They were clearly trying to run the clock down and settle for a field goal. You knew the packers, with all three timeouts, were going to at least get a field goal on the subsequent drive. I really wish we would’ve shown some cajones and worked for a td.
It's interesting.
Because most of the comments on the Packers blog are about how the Packers got away with one despite playing badly. It’s too early to tell how good these teams are and thus to early to know if the Bears played down to GB, or if GB played down to Chicago, or if neither team is all that good.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 14, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I vote for the last option
The defenses looked good, but there was some very poor play on both sides. Barbre. I can’t recall seeing worse. Bear receivers other than Hester were not good. Even the Packer receivers played poorly. Jordy Nelson and Driver, known for their hands, both dropped a few. A kidney stone of a game.
by uglyfatpimplynerd on Sep 14, 2009 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I Hope Everyone Is Smart Enough To Notice...
2-3 of those INTs weren’t Cutler’s fault. As much as I want to blame the game on him, it was our WRs and TEs fault we lost. Even Jim Miller stood up for Cutler on that final INT. Horrible route-running/miss-communications/drops all game.
Did anyone else notice, every time Earl Bennett was thrown to, he ended the play laying down?
by PoopieDeLoopie on Sep 13, 2009 11:14 PM CDT reply actions
True
But at least he ran his routes and caught the ball.
Bennett isn’t the problem.
Agreed with most but...
…what does Favre’s success or lack thereof have to do with this analysis?
And Orton won on a tipped ball.
If we had won tonight’s game, there would’ve been just as much luck involved.
Yeah.
That was an awful throw.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 14, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
he's not very good
but he always wins, it’s a conspiracy I swear
by Donald Driver on Sep 14, 2009 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Mixed Bag
Some good Cutler, some bad Cutler
Some good games from WR, some bad games from WR
Some great play from the D-Line, some not so great play from the D-Line
Some decent play from the Secondary, some atrocious play from the Secondary
Shake it off, it’s only Week 1, it sucks worse because its GB and a division game, but PIT is still showing up next week.
What I liked about Cutler...
…was he came back and made a big play in the second half. Rather than continuing to throw INTs and looking like he didn’t know where he was. Honestly I think most of his INTs occurred when he threw where he expected his receiver to be, but they broke the wrong way or otherwise cutoff their route.
What I liked about Cutler...
…was the post-game interview. Even though the game was clearly the WRs faults, he didn’t say anything. Honestly, that was my favorite thing of the game………. Also the Johnny Knox bomb and Hester bomb. :)
by PoopieDeLoopie on Sep 13, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Would've loved to see that...
…but I’m not local
The injuries are the scary thing
So many of our key players are just one hit away from being out for the season. The Secondary especially is on very thin ice depth wise.
The thing that really pisses me off was the ego of the team this off season. Any time a concern was raised the majority of the team laughed at it and acted like it was the most idiotic thing suggested. The Chicago fanbase is not entirely composed of meatballs, some of use have legit concerns. For example: People were questioning the WRs all year, the response was “the QB makes the WRs better”… I hope eventually this turns out to be true, but right now the Bears organization has lots of egg on their face.
Another major problem is once again the O line. They looked awful. Like last year, it does not matter who the QB is if they are constantly under pressure.
Anyways yet another game that we could have and should have won but lost because of a few bad decisions. Frustrating start to the season.
by 815Sox on Sep 13, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
No one can argue are receivers are inexperienced.
But the top two stepped up tonight (Hester and Bennett) and a young one made a big play but also faltered (Knox) and Olsen dropped a ball but we know he’s better than that. It’s going to take time to get timing between Cutler and all of our receivers.
I personally do not like
Hester and Bennet being the 1 and 2 receivers, in all reality they are both around 3s..
agree
The O line looked bad. Real bad. They couldn’t pass block with consistency for Cutler (they would look good one play and horrible the next), and they didn’t show the ability to run block AT ALL the entire game.
O-Line takes time
It takes time to build chemistry on an O-Line. Not surprising we sucked.
ok when they marched down the field they should have
worried about scoring and not milking the clock. WTF what that?
I have seen a QB and it was good.
Am i the only one That is pissed at urlacher?
Seriously brian dawkins played for denver with a broken hand and his wrist was hurting? WTF MAN UPAND GET BACK OUT ON THE FIELD!!!! That s*** better be broken. Also, cutler needs to learn to throw the ball away or take the damn sack.
Haha ya
I dislocated my middle finger at the joint to which connects to your hand, and it took me like 1-2 weeks to get it back functioning right. I couldn’t do shit with my hand, and the wrist would be twice as bad as mine.
by packallday555 on Sep 13, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
disagree
If there was any risk that he could injure it far more seriously, I don’t have any problem with the team keeping him out. Though it would have been nice to “steal” a win at GB, this was not a make-or-break game for us. It’s much more important that we get Urlacher back healthy ASAP.
No, not without getting it casted.
If it’s dislocated or broke, you don’t want him out there with it flopping around.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
OK, I consider very few fan opinions "stupid"
But questioning Urlacher’s toughness or questioning the decision by the Bears to not put him back in, unless you are a doctor who was present on that sideline examining his wrist, is truly arrogant and stupid. You lack the factual knowledge (exactly what was wrong) and you likely also lack the medicinal knowledge (which is presumable since a real doctor would NEVER issue a diagnosis based upon such scant info).
I never thought, as a Packer fan, that I would be posting in defense of Brian Urlaucher this morning, but who ever really knows what a day will bring?
Facts?
This is the internet, we don’t need no stinkin’ facts on the internet!
We should have won this game
Lovie called a great game on D (except for hanging vash out on the corner). I know we are harping on the Oline but I think the bigger issue with the run game was that we did not game plan for all the run blitzes. We had no answer for that becuase we couldnt block everyone (plus Omilaye getting whipped all night). Cutler had good and bad but he needs to check down a little like he did in the preseason. No need to go down field as much as he did.
That wasn't Lovie (or Vasher).
Afalava bit on play action when he shouldn’t have. I’m no Vasher fan, but Afalava made a rookie mistake there, too.
—d
Agree to disagree?!?
Vasher’s job is to push the receiver inside, where he has Safety help. He didn’t, got tripped up… game over.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 14, 2009 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Driver was the initial target on that play...
Pick your poison, with that offense.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 14, 2009 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Good luck with that!
He’s pretty good.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 14, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes
but not jennings good..he doesn’t have that kind of spped and strength anymore. Anytime Vasher is on the field you have to roll the safety over the top.
You're right, Not Jennings good, but still good.
The safety bit on the play action, but still if Vash had played the receiver inside, it wouldn’t have gone for six. Completion, yes. Touchdown, not likely. Although, Rodgers would have probably just chewed away at the clock and GB would’ve kicked the field goal as time expires, so….
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 14, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Cutler showed glimpses of what we've been missing for a long time
2.5/4 INT’s weren’t his fault.
Gotta show up for Pittsburgh. Win that game, make a statement.
The Pack didn’t impress me much, we were SO bad and almost won….if we would have been clicking on all cylinders, we could have won this by 14.
This one’s on us, but I saw some good signs as to what the season my indeed hold.
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
I agree
Mike Lupica on the Sports Reporters annointed them as one of the two teams in the NFC championship this year. They did not look that good at ALL. We made some critical mistakes and still almost won the game. I’m looking forward to next week.
Well
Keep in mind the WRs dropped many balls, and many penalties prevented us from scoring probably 10+ more points. It was impossible for our offense to establish any kind of flow because our RT basically let Ogunleye run right around him every play. Our defense looked great against you guys. We shut your run game down pretty good, and pressured Cutler into making some poor decisions. He threw 4 picks but threw 3 more balls that probably get intercepted 6 out of 10 times.
by packallday555 on Sep 14, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
and had
clark drop a td and if chris williams makes a block on Jolly (that he missed, hence the pick) then Forte walks in the endzone. Oh and we gave you the ball on the one yard line after an int return. There is 21 point swing..Oh let’s not forget the stupid fake punt, another three. We gift wrapped this game. All I know is we shut down the vaunted offense known as the GB packers.
Ok.
Then how about the blown penalty call on Harris? And the non-call on Bennett on the same play? Because if the ref gets either of them right, you don’t get the go ahead score with 2 minutes left to play and the game is over.
But this is nonsense really. I think we all know you can’t go back and say “if this hadn’t happened, we would have blown you out”. That’s like saying the Packers would have been unbeaten last year if it weren’t for those 10 losses.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 14, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but he also threw two
passes almost directly into a defender that should have been picks. They both got dropped.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
Seriously
this is what makes me love being a Steelers fan! We won last year with a beast of a schedule, no running game, and a sub-par performance from our QB. Being the champs means everyone and their mother is gunning for you. Makes for very violent games, which are what we do best!
I would say good luck, but I make it a point to not well wish an opponent. :)
Thank you drive through...
by Steel Spike on Sep 14, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
All i know is
That for millions of dollars urlacher needs to get his ass out there and play. He usually just hits and doesn’t wrap up anyway. Plus he can still knock passes down.
I agree.
It’s football. You play. If you can hold your shoulder pads down you can play.
I have seen a QB and it was good.
Plus if it was just dislocated.
you really can just wrap it tight and play. My buddy did that when we were in highschool.
Urlachers wrist is worth just a tiny bit more than your buddies from high school ball
props to him for manning up, but I’m glad we played it safe with Urlacher. It is week 1 after all
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
I disagree
Urlacher and every other football player gets played those millions of dollars for putting there bodies on the line and playing through pain. If he isn’t going to do that then the bears need to get some of that money back.
Again...
…if it’s just pain, than I agree. But if your arm or your leg or whatever is not going to function correctly than that is completely different. And I think all of us armchair QBs underestimate how these injuries effect how you can perform.
And I disagree
Urlacher and all those football players get paid all those millions of dollars to play in as many football games as they possibly can, to sell as many jerseys, tickets, and cable packages as possible.
If its Week 1 and you have a wrist injury that will heal in a week, why go out and risk causing more damage?
If its Week 16 and we’re fighting for a playoff spot, i doubt he would have sat the second half. You gotta look big picture here
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If he was in that much pain
don’t you think he would have went into the locker room and gotten some medical attention?
Scenario: You twist your ankle playing street ball
It’s the first quarter of the first game of a double elimination tournament. Its a really bad sprain, makes you a liability at your position. Yes, you can walk on it, and its not something that you need to go to the ER for, but if you were to try and play professional street ball at the fastest speed on the planet, you could possibly do long term damage to your ankle and possibly putting you out of commission for the rest of the tournament.
But if you wait a couple days, strength returns to that sprain and you are rip roaring and ready to go for when the game really counts
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Probably
Wasn’t a matter of pain. His wrist probably wasn’t able to function right. That’s a pretty big deal. He wouldn’t have been able to shed any blocks, and could have risked futher injuring it making a tackle.
by packallday555 on Sep 14, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I do agree...
That Urlacher shouldn’t have taken a chance on injuring himself further. However, this…
He wouldn’t have been able to shed any blocks
Not really something he does with a good wrist.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 14, 2009 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions
You are correct sir.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
So he could then have people saying:
“He’s the leader of that team! Why’s he hiding in the locker room!?”
Since it’s unlikely they know exactly what’s wrong without an extended exam, it’s better to play it safe in week 1 and sit out, rather than making an injury worse. He was wearing a brace. He recieved medical attention. Your bravado is cute, but an NFL season is a marathon- not a sprint.
by Mike Martin on Sep 14, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
And yes i do
When urlacher went down the started running like crazy up the middle. Then we got burnt on a play action because the whole team bit. also vasher just doesn’t have the speed to play man up on very many recievers in this league.
They weren't running that crazy on us...
…and the bomb to Jennings is what killed us.
Was it U2/Muse
Going to see them in Raleigh, NC on October 03. Couldn’t care less about U2 to be honest, but Muse is amazing. Can’t wait.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 14, 2009 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions
we had 4 sacks tonight!
afalava played fairly well, payne looked pretty serviceable as FS.
yep
Safeties (both of them) played better than I expected. Not stellar…but solid enough. Cornerback seemed to be our weak link on the defensive side of the ball.
Mainly Vasher.
He seemed completely lost on that last GB TD. He totally stumbled. He was not on top of the play.
bowman will hopefully be healthy next week
and relegate vasher to the bench. he had good moments in this game, but man, the dude has fallen far…not consistent at all anymore.
by guy incognito on Sep 13, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Keep in mind
Jennings is one of the better WRs in the league. It’s hard for top CBs to cover him. CBs make mistakes (see Woodson in the 1st half tonight), unfortunately Vasher’s was at a crucial moment in the game.
by packallday555 on Sep 14, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
lost?
A stumble and being lost are two separate things.
Bringing moderation to a place I don't moderate.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2009 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Vasher was the week link on the defensive side of the ball
To be specific. The line was outstanding and everyone else played solid, exept Vash.
d line looked great
that was a great surprise. i think of all the assumptions made the off season that was the biggest leap but seems to be the one that came true.
They did
Both your DEs looked excellent coming off the edge tonight. Marinelli really seems to have made a big difference. When Tillman and Bowman are back healthy, your defense could be one of the better ones in the league.
by packallday555 on Sep 14, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Vasher needs to be benched immediately!
I was surprised to see him in there with Tillman, much less playing at the end of the game with everything on the line. He is just absolutely horrible in coverage, and it got to the point where almost every time Green Bay made a play, you didn’t even have to see the play to know that it was Vasher in coverage.
The defensive line played an outstanding game. Marinelli has definately brought a new attitude and determination that has been lacking the past couple of years.
Can we quit the Franchise without saving?
This was like one of those games in Madden where you just quit at the end and play again and end up winnng by 30. Sadly this is real life and there’s no restarting here.
Is it just me
or does Cutler have a hickey? I heard he’d been enjoying the Chicago nightlife but that is hilarious!
Bronco Fan
I’m not going to talk about Cutler
Hester, Bennet and Knox did better than I expected. Ogunleye looked really good. Tommie Harris doesn’t look like his old self yet.
Lowlights: Mannelly & Vasher.
Mannelly...
A play like that would of had you tied up in a sack with cats and dogs and tossed into the river back in the Roman days.
by Chitownproduct on Sep 14, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Was i upset about loss, that goes without saying
But Bears/Packers is just one of those things in life. I think Jay Cutler will bounce back next game, Urlacher not coming back rest of the game was huge. Without Lach, we are not the same football team, and whatever is wrong i hope it is not too severe. Vasher is done imo, he looked like a kid who lost his puppy (go bump and run coverage and not even bump him? Horrible). The O-Line looked downright atrocious and the receivers showed flashes at times as a whole, but they cannot give up on routes.
The only bad part is now i have to have the Brett Farve bobblehead on my desk the entire rest of the season..however, the guy i made a bet with didn’t specify where on the desk it had to be, so i’m gonna stick it behind the printer next to the back cabinet lol. Don’t lose faith guys, it’s Bears / Packers..not the end of the world.
by Chitownproduct on Sep 14, 2009 12:13 AM CDT reply actions
hehe
Aren’t you worried about the Pissburgh Stoolers next week?
That’s funny stuff. I heard us called the “Squeelers”, “Stealers”, “Shittsburgh”, but never the Pissburgh Stoolers! WOW! That’s clever! I bet ALL the pre-teen girls think you’re *HILARIOUS!
Thank you drive through...
by Steel Spike on Sep 14, 2009 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
Thanks SteelFever. It’s nice to get a rise out of you. You realize, of course, that this is a Bears website so I didn’t think it inappropriate to poke a little fun at you guys. I would never do that on your site.
Your team scares the bejesus out of me. You looked extremely good Thursday.
Relax bud
It’s all in good fun! Besides, I gave you some ammunition there, in case you didn’t notice…(Shittsburgh, ETC)
Thank you drive through...
um...what game did you watch on thursday?
our D is, well, our D. and our O is, well…our O…
I love my team, but the offense makes me nervous sometimes…especially our non-existent run game…
Thank you drive through...
Complete Team Effort
Is what scares me about your team. You don’t have a superstar QB (no offense, but Big Ben is not Brady or Manning), RB, etc. I am worried for you about Polamalu though. He is perhaps the best player on your team and I hope he was not badly injured. Your policy for years has been to draft BPA and simply reload and adjust. Terrific model franchise imo.
Our D will suffer only a little bit
But never fear, O Bronco faithful, he will be back and terrorizing your Offense and giving your O co-ordinator nightmares soon enough :)
Thank you drive through...
ps
I hope our respective fanbases will engage in some respectful and substantive dialogue leading up to the game.
Bedtime for me
Too much joy from the Goddess of Luck today. Drop by milehighreport on SBNation anytime, SteelFever. But no trashtalking about the Broncos is allowed there! (Much like I’m sure your site doesn’t allow bashing the Steelers).
As the unofficial embassador from the BTSC
I can say for the most part, we are respectful, but if that respect is not returned, we will turn ugly. We had over 1000 posts in each of the halves in two different threads on Thursday.
Thank you drive through...
Considering the majority of the Bronco fans
we’ve seen over here, I wouldn’t count on it. Not all of you of course, but a majority.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
I hated this lost
The Bears defense was impressive to me. Yes get rid of Vasher he fregin sucks hard. I am most sick of him because he knows hes being criticizes and still aint stepping up to the plate. Whats up with all the injury’s I swear and we got to see Steelers next and they are super physical.It always seems like are secondary is were we loose in the end dating back to the last Falcon game. I know we are still going to be dangerous, we looked like crap and still almost won. much props to our defense urlacher come on with that wrist B-S..
Ron Turner
Three offensive coordinators have been canned already and I wouldn’t be surprised if Turner is canned within the next couple weeks. I could’ve sworn Angelo was going to fire Lovie mid-game after that fake punt.
no one's trolling
It’s a logical assessment I’m clearly not trying to get a rise out of anyone here or I would’ve written something offensive obviously
by Donald Driver on Sep 14, 2009 3:25 AM CDT up reply actions
how...
…was that offensive?
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
My biggest concern is the O Line
We just played a team with a new coordinator, new scheme, and several guys playing new positions, and they absolutely embarassed us. I don’t think there was one guy out there who didn’t get beat at least a cople times. when Omiyale went down, I actually thought to myself “Good, now maybe they’ll put in someone competent.” He looked absolutely terrible out there. The fact that they performed that poorly at both run and pass blocking is disturbing.
Just so this isn’t all negative, I have to see the d-line played much better than I expected. Didn’t see a lot out of Harris, but Wale looked incredible, and I’m pretty sure I saw Anderson actually make a tackle. I also must disclose that I was watching this online from work, so there were some chunks that I missed. Damn feed kept skipping forward on me.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
Blame it on Ron Turner.
How strange that Rex, Kyle and Jay kinda look the same under Ron Turner….HMMM?
PLEASE CAN HIM!
LOVIE! Great play calling on D!
Not to beat a dead Horse
But come on, the offensive playcalling has been bad here for years now. I said it before and i’ll say it again, I truly believe the only reason Ron Turner is still here is because there are no better options atm. I have seen a lot fo football games but the playcalling tonight was one of the most uninspired i have ever seen. 1st and goal would of been the ideal time to go for a playaction pass cause they were expecting a run. 2nd down you do a pitch left which has not netted you any positive yards up to that point, and 3rd and goal you go for a rollour pass to the corner of the endzone.
Uninspired to say the least. With so many dynamic offenses out there in the league we are still using 1982 plays.
by Chitownproduct on Sep 14, 2009 2:27 AM CDT up reply actions
No, but my heart about stopped
when he ran a screen to McKie on third down. Although I was actually more surprised that McKie caught it than I was that Turner called it.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
by JerBear50 on Sep 14, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
One loss doesn' make a season
Growing pains we may have lost but that doesn’t mean the season is over there are some issues we need to take care of but it was a hostile environment for our Qb and we still were n the game time will heal this loss so enjoy Packer fans for even you know our D is for real
We need to take the "miya" out of his last name
and just call him Frankie Olé after that performance last night. That and receivers just stopping their routes were the big things that bugged me last night.
Even still, count me among “the sky is not falling” crowd
lol
he was the only guy that played really poorly on the Oline as Jolly made him his bitch. But what is with the playcalling? If they are going to bring 5 or 6 guys every play how can you run the ball? You have to call plays to slow the rush down. Screens, slants, dump offs to Forte. That stuff would have been wide open. Instead we are calling 5 and 7 step drops every play..
Deja Vu all over again
loss reminds me of loss to Vikings last year where Berrian got 1-1 coverage against Tillman and scored on a 99 yard bomb. To show how the Bears involved the matchup that lost us the game on a similar bomb was Jennings v. Vasher an even more egregious 1on1 matchup than tillman and berrian. that defensive call lost the game. we woulda been fine if they got the 1st on 3rd and 1 by running , what we could not afford to let happen is exactly what we set up and then allowed to happen.
Cutler sucked but he did not lose the game for us. it was very winnable even with the turnover margin a whack as it was.
P.S. obviously Josh McDaniels is a genius.
* involved * should be evolved
as in they did not learn from their biggest mistake in their biggest game last year
Inuries and O-Line play...
are the two things that scare me.
The interceptions, meh. We knew Cutler was going to throw some. We have to take the good with the bad, and there’s a lot of good there. If our “inexperienced” receivers can develop some chemistry, stop sitting down and finish running their routes, things will turn out differently. Wtf is up with Dez though? If he didn’t stop in the endzone, it would have been six.
Omiyale is terrible, right now. I have said it before, the money they paid him is NOT enough to justify him retaining that starting spot. And I thought Pace was an aged veteran? Why the frak would he get his guy down and just sit there waiting for him to get up? Why not go put a hand on a linebacker, open up a hole for Forte to run through?
Vasher – it is what it is. He needed to push his guy inside, he didn’t, got beat. He had some good plays, but he’s a liability whenever he’s on the field. Hopefully Tillman and Bowman can get healthy, and fast.
I’m not that worried about the loss. It takes a while for an offense to develop chemistry. It doesn’t happen overnight. There were a lot of intangibles (chemistry, youth, rivalry game, road game, injuries) that didn’t bode well for our team. It’s a 16 game season, and it’s still early.
As much as I wanted to win, I figured we’d drop this one and Cutler would get creamed by the media. If my early predictions hold true, he should have an excellent game, next week, and we’ll get a W.
Bear down!
- Smudgers
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Yep, we were underdogs in this
Should have stole it but we didn’t. Hopefully next week against the steelers we have a more controlled gameplan with shorter stuff to stop the blitzing.
Good read smudgers!
I couldn’t have said it better.
Because he's lazy
Why the frak would he get his guy down and just sit there waiting for him to get up? Why not go put a hand on a linebacker, open up a hole for Forte to run through?
and has been for awhile. I wasn’t thrilled when we signed him, but I was hoping that the last few years of mediocrity and then being released would light a fire under his ass and get him back to form. It’s not looking like it’s going to happen. If it doesn’t improve, I think next season they may need to shift Williams over to his more natural left side and move Omiyale to right tackle. Playing guard sure isn’t working for him.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
This game reminds me of the SD Opener 2 years ago
Defense played great but offense couldn’t get it going. And we had some big injuries..
Lol it was a great game.Intense as can be,I looked at the positives side of the game.Johnny Knox broke a big play, against some of the better corners in the NFL.Granted the last INT of the game he just quit on.We still have to remember we have 2,Rookies,a second year starter and Hester.We still played good D without Urlacher,and Pisa,we had 4 sacks!! Hester had a great game and Cutler settled down in the second half and threw the ball well.
I was pretty disappointed in
my man Dez Clark……He needs to get his head right and finish plays.
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I actually wasn't that disappointed when the Packers scored the long TD
because I figured they’d get the first down anyway and run time off the clock to beat us with a FG. Scoring with over a minute left gave Cutler a chance to bring us back down for the winning score. Sure, it would have been a longshot, but I would have hated to see a FG with no time left beat us by one point.
As someone pointed out, you know Cutler is going to throw some picks and you need to take some bad for, potentially, a lot of good but here are the things that troubled me the most.
1. By my count, he should have had 6-7 picks and at least 3 of those could not be blamed at all on the receivers
2. He was definitely eye-balling his primary guy and would go to that receiver no matter what
3. I still say that Greg Olsen is way overrated. He drops too many passes and does not play tough enough for a TE
4. Turner’s playcalling is suspect, at best. He wasn’t helping his struggling QB at all in the first half by continuing to call pass plays, then when the Packer safety went out and they were vulnerable, he called 2 straight running plays.
5. Poor timeout usage in a close game. Lovie, in my opinion, is a terrible gameday coach.
6. They still don’t know how to go for the jugular and can’t close games. Again, poor coaching.
All that said, it’s still the first game of the season and one team was going to come out on the short end. It doesn’t mean the season’s over. If the injuries aren’t too serious, and we can get our collective heads out of our collective a$$es, we’ll be fine.
I look at last night this way, the Packers didn’t win the game, the Bears lost it. We can fix that.
Amen brother
Would we rather have this knowing it is fixable or have lost a shootout 38-30 seeing the dfense get torched. The biggest thing going into this game was how was the defense going to perform. I would say that we have to all be pleasantly pleased with their performance and Rogers was rattled most of the night. Our biggest concern – the pass rush – showed up and performed well giving hope for the rest of the year. The Offense will be adjusted and fixed.
6-7 Picks!
Not really. The first two “almost picks” if caught, would’ve canceled out the actual pick. All three of those are, technically, the same pick. Yeah, bad throws, but he shouldn’t have had 6-7. He should have and did have, the correct amount, It’s just the defender should have caught one, if not both of the first two.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 14, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
The point being that he made that many bad throws and bad decisions...
like I said, he will give us some “rollercoaster” feelings but that’s okay if there are more ups than downs. I will be looking to see if the bad techniques (locking onto the receiver, throwing across his body, etc.) become the norm. If that’s the case, I feel he’ll ultiamtely fail and his non-winning record isn’t a fluke. I don’t think that’s what will happen and I’m in for the long haul but, hopefully, the coaches are not hiding their heads in the sand and get him straightened out if he continues with these bad habits.
wow...
Amazing how many people run to the ledge and get ready to jump as soon as the Bears play one bad game (that they almost one).
Fun times…
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Maybe next week, they'll almost two.
by rdent4hof on Sep 14, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
lol perfect
Thank you sir. I haven’t really laughed much since last night. Having Mike & Mike calling a game is not helping my mood either.
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F n A
were they terrible or what… I listen to their radio show some and I think its a decent program, but listening to them doing a game was freakin’ amateur hour!!! Horrible!!!
BTW, thanks for the green my brothers and sisters!
I don't like their radio show either.
My morning ride home from work is the one time that I can’t listen to sports radio. I can’t stand listening to them, and the only other option is a self-appointed legend named Dan Sileo. You might have heard him when you lived down here. He’s syndicated in a couple cities down here unfortunately. With Mike and Mike, I just can’t stand the forced banter between them. We get it- Greenberg’s a pussy and Golec’s half retarded. No need to belabor the point every five minutes.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
I said it last night.
I’m okay with people jumping off the bandwagon. It’s crowded in here anyways.
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 14, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
yep
I saw alot of positives in this game amongst all the bad
nobody can cover hesterand knox at the same time, bennett can catch an nfl pass, our d-line is stout, we coulda and shoulda won.
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Bears D
looked really good first week of last season as well right?
not like last night
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just putting this out there
would vasher be able to play a safety position?
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Aren't safeties meant to tackle?
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"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
Vasher isn't nearly physical enough
to play safety. I’ve got a good idea though- from now on, we can try drafting people who actually play the position we need to fill. I know it’s crazy thinking, but it just might work.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
To be fair...
1. Cutler was passing against one of the top secondaries in the NFL. Combine that with the fact that his receiving corps is inexperienced, and you’ll have issues throwing the ball.
2. The line nobody is talking about: 25 rushes for 55 yards and a 2.2 YPC average. I think Lovie and Co. wanted to run the ball first and foremost, but the run defense shut down Matt Forte, forcing point 1.
3. Rodgers had the two-minute-drill of his life. The Bears anticipated a run, and bought the PA hook, line, and sinker.
4. Talent isn’t the problem for the receiving corps. Bear in mind (no pun intended), Johnny Knox was drafted with the pick the Broncos sent Chicago in the Cutler deal.
My issues with Ron Turner never cease to exist. So, the plan was to abandon the run – force a jacked up Cutler to throw the ball as if he were Peyton Manning (he is not), and then rely on that jacked up player to make decisions. Ok, first – love the check off and bomb to Knox…but, Cutler and the receivers could not be trusted to be on the same page this early – so IF u r going to give check with me/check to other play – you better dam well dumb it down. You are asking Bennett and Knox to recognize things they are not capable of, YET. I just cannot get my head around abandoning the run so early…not today, not tomorrow, not ever. You took any play-action away with that brilliant idea.
Cutler made some very poor decisions, almost Rex like, as much as it pains me to say that. He is fortunate to have only tossed four picks.
Defense was incredible most of the night, especially without to backers and a corner. Vasher sucks, but we already knew that. And exactly what coverage was called on the winning touchdown? I am torn on this one really. I think you have to go man given the yardage situation (3rd and 1), but you have to have both safeties there for help.
Very frustrating night for this Bears fan.
My birthday is Dec. 13th.
All’s I want is to kick the shit out of the Packers at home.
Hear about the blind hooker, you gotta hand it to her.
Rex Grossman has to be a test-tube baby, cause he's not worth a f---!!!
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Sep 14, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions
May you get your wish
Man I hate those guys.
F my life
D-Line = great
Urlacher and Pisa done for year = very bad
Our WRs don’t know where they’re going = very bad
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Pisa's done for the year too. Mother Effer!
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 14, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Seriously?
I forgot my question mark… But is this legit? Link?
- Smudgers
"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 14, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I've been saying all along that our biggest area of concern
was our secondary our D-line our, uh, linebackers? WTF is going on here? What the hell kind of bizarro-Bear world have we stepped in to? And what is rod Serling doing here?
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
Offense Fixable
Defensive Secondary not so much.
Example: Offensive line pass protection much improved in second half.
The defensive line pass rush made the secondary appear much better than they really was or is. Jerry didn’t improve the secondary during the off season and it shows.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
Vasher!?
Why the hell was Vasher playing instead of Corey Graham? Just because we’re paying him a lot doesn’t need we need to start him over somebody who’s better than him. Hopefully Tillman & Bowman are starting soon!
Briggs and M Harrison: I know they played, but I barely noticed them.
LB injuries: why are we playing Roach over Williams? Supposedly Williams was the man during OTAs, and I’m yet to see anything good out of Roach.
On the bright side, D. Manning played much better than I expected, and our DEs got decent pressure.
by MakeHalasProud on Sep 14, 2009 12:03 PM CDT reply actions
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