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Back To The Drawing Board; Bears Attacked the Pack Wrong

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When attacking the 3-4 defense, especially Don Capers 3-4 defense, you need to run the ball.  Run. The. Ball.  Line up and run the ball.  Stick to the run.  Did I mention you run the ball?  Besides the obvious complaints I have with the Bears game plan (Where was the 1st half commitment to the run?  Only ten 1st half runs?), they kept trying to execute a play that was doomed for failure.  Every time I saw the play ran, I knew it'd be for naught.  What play you ask?

Some call it a toss, others call it a pitch, I've heard it called a toss sweep, but what ever the terminology the Bears use, it was called a failure Sunday night.

Star-divide

One of the benefits of running a 3-4 defense is you have an extra athlete on the field. By playing four linebackers, you should have the team speed to contain offenses from getting outside.  In the run game it's all about their flow to the ball carrier and being athletic enough to avoid blockers and protect the edge.  Simply put, if your big blockers can't catch their quick defenders, the quick defenders should make plays. 

When running to the outside most teams will pull at least 1 offensive lineman, sometimes it's a guard or two, sometimes it's play-side guard and tackle, and sometimes any uncovered lineman will pull.  The Bears tried running outside with the stretch play on a few occasions and they tried 3 toss plays in the second half, all with little to no gain.  When running outside (especially against the 3-4), you have to be sure your pulling linemen can turn and seal the flowing LB's back inside.  The Bears couldn't do this.  Another disruption to the toss play is the penetration of the defensive down linemen from Green Bay caused the pulling Bears blockers to belly back, which in turn caused Matt Forte to belly back and let Green Bay extend the play to the sideline.  This penetration also took away any potential cut back lanes that Matt Forte could have exploited.  And is Matt Forte the kind of burner that can turn the corner in the first place?

Offensively you're counting on executing everything to a "T" when running outside.  From an X's and O's standpoint, the Bears would have been better off sticking between the tackles.  There are less variables you need to work in your favor to run inside.  You can double team the point of attack (at one of the 3 down d-linemen) then one of the double teamers will combo off onto a LB.  If they are blitzing, at least now your offensive line is firing out and attacking, rather than pulling and trying to catch up with the defender.  Simply put you want your biggens manning up on their little guys, and the shortest distance between the line of scrimmage and ten yards is a straight line.  Fire out, get in someones chest, and drive block... repeat.

The thing that shocked me even more, was the Packers were in a nickel for a big part of the game.  Only 2 down lineman, with 4 players in a 2 point stance, and 5 DB's.  They actually had a the look of a 4 man front, with their OLB's right there waiting to get blocked.  You tell me that against this lighter lineup, you can't pound the rock? 

By no means am I saying they ran it good between the tackles, but they had more success there and on the counter play, than they did trying to take it outside.

With the Steelers up this week, I hope the Bears learned from their week 1 loss.  The Steelers are more experienced with the defense, and a bit more stout at the LB positions, so running inside may prove more difficult, but it's something they have to do.  And do.  And do.

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I believe if was Jeff Dickerson

who said Cutler kept on audibling out of runs cause he saw run type of defensive fronts. Not sure what he saw, but certainly it was the wrong call.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Sep 15, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it was JD

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Sep 15, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nothing fancy

I agree, the runs have to take the shortest route to the line and hit the hole before the linebackers can get there.
Here’s hoping Ron Turner either learns or goes the way of the dodo bird.

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Sep 15, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Certain parts of our offensive line looked very old.

Like Olin. When he pulls out it’s a disaster.

This is a hybrid. This is a cross, ah, of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sensemilia. The amazing stuff about this is, that you can play 36 holes on it in the afternoon, take it home and just get stoned to the bejeezus-belt that night on this stuff.

by SoulEater7 on Sep 15, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

pace

Pace didn’t look like he discovered the fountain of youth either.

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Sep 15, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's tough for a Center to pull

even tougher against a 3-4… not the way I would have attacked with the run game for sure

by wiltfongjr on Sep 15, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree about the gameplan

but I would have audibled out of the run as well becuase of all the run blitzes they were doing. smaller guys or not if they have 7 guys coming against our 5 the run game is not going to work. The issue is that he must have been audibling (is that a word) to the worng play. If you want to stop the blitz, 3 stop drop and throw will nullify that. Quick outs, dump off to Forte/Olsen, etc. Get them thinking they can’t get to the QB with the blitz and then run it down their throats and it wil also open up the playaction. Very pooe gameplan from Turner. With everyone going the wrong way it almost looked like they put in a new gameplan late in the week..

by tfrabotta on Sep 15, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The bottom line is...

Cutler let his nerves get the best of him. When a team lose, sure your’re going to analyze every detail to death. Jay just needs to keep his cool and do his thing. Yeah they brought the blitz but (I can’t believe I’m saying this) do a few dump offs in the flat. I think there were a few opportunities. On a blitz someone has to be open right?

by Big Ike on Sep 15, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I think he’ll be back next week to prove himself. It looked like he settled down after half time. I just think at this point his ego will be willing him this week.

I also agree on the comments about the game plan. It just wasn’t right. Matt forte should be putting up better numbers and with Cutler and Olsen there should be no reason for not being able to get the ball off quickly in a blitz situation. Hopefully all the nerves are settled and the Bears are back on track for week 2.

by Spiderwomn69 on Sep 15, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Solid post wilt!

I can feel your anger…

There is quite a bit of blame to go around for this loss… I feel the brunt of the blame/fault whatever, falls on R. Turner.

by rdent4hof on Sep 15, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i hear what you're saying....

but Lovie is the coach. He needs to run the show. He’s the supervisor and the supervisor is ultimately responsible for everything that goes down. He needs to be able and review what’s going on and make sure the team is doing the right things. It’s not his job to sit back and relax.

Bear Down, Chicago Bears!

by topdoggkyle on Sep 15, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we're both right.

The responsibility does fall on Lovie’s shoulders, but it’s Turner’s job to coordinate the offense. Overall, I thought Lovie did a good job Sunday night. I can’t say the same for Ron Turner.

by rdent4hof on Sep 15, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stop pulling guards on short yardage!

Just go straight ahead and attack.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Sep 15, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm sure this had been said already.

But did you know we haven’t won a game without brian in 10 years. that will change this year. but i didn’t know that.

by Daseabeez on Sep 15, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

holy god i remember how bad the bears were in 04

with brian being out a lot that year

having people like quinn and krenzel at qb, man i don’t miss that ONE BIT

by reefermadness3 on Sep 15, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Post

I think Turner’s playcalling was very suspect and frankly he threw too much in the first half. What happened to “We won’t be a pass-happy team just because of Jay Cutler” I think if this offense doesn’t improve, Turner will be the first to be shown the door come January.

by GallopingGhost on Sep 15, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Excellent Breakdown Of The Run Game Failure wiltfongjr.

In addition to running outside I don’t think the Bears committed to the run early enough in the game. I am not going to lie here. I was liking what I saw at first because Ron Turner was opening up the playbook on the pass more then I’ve ever seen him before. The end result however was UGLY. If the intention was to catch Green Bay off guard it didn’t work. It was a hard lesson for all of us. The Bears are and always will be a run first team. Regardless of whether you have Jay Cutler at QB or not.

by Gesiakob on Sep 15, 2009 1:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Another great write up Wilt

I’ve enjoyed reading your post, thanks for the work.

I couldn’t agree with you more about the sweeps, seems like football 101, more fast LB’s in the game, don’t run side to side. The Bears have been saying that they get off the bus running for years. I don’t think the stats would support over the past few years..

by Fridge72 on Sep 15, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fail, having a hard time typing today.

I don’t think the stats would support over the past few years.. should be: I don’t think that the stats would support that over the past few years.

by Fridge72 on Sep 15, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Running the Ball?

According to the box score we ran it 31 to their 22, for 2.8 average. Maybe we should have run more between the tackles but it looked like GB’s run defense was one of the reasons that we lost.

I also thought that we ran too much on that 1st and goal in the 4th where we settled for a FG. At the very least I wanted to see a mindset change of play to win with our new franchise QB and so I was hoping for more WR options in those formations and a pass on first or 2nd down. On third down we played scared again with what seemed like a limited option play and tossed it out of the end zone.

I am more disappointed in the QB/WR play in the TOs, the poor coaching decisions costing us TOs on what seemed like challenges that had zero chance, and that IDIOTIC fake punt. The latter was such a poor decision and it wasn’t even executed properly, i.e., if you want a 12 man penalty then snap when there are 12 men on the field—why they thought a fake run up the middle would get the ball snapped quicker was not explained. This was a gift of points from fantasy land.

by DudeVf11 on Sep 15, 2009 1:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

54 will be back for Playoffs

54 will come back to lead the Bears to a Super Bowl Victory and will MVP

by Vikinghater on Sep 15, 2009 2:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not if he's on IR

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Sep 15, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Done for the year…no take backs, no do overs. End of story. Urlacher is out for the year, including playoffs.

by poolboy55 on Sep 15, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone here bothered by

the way the Bears’ DB’s position themselves on defense? It wouldn’t hurt to once in a while play over the inside shoulder of the opposing WR. Green Bay, more than any other team, feasts off of quick slants, yet the Bears concede that play time in and time out. I just wish they’d switch up the defensive technique here and there.

by dakoose on Sep 15, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wilt

I found it rather ironic that we are once again, talking about Ron Turner. Couldn’t agree more with your post regardless of the number of run plays called. More to that point, it is when those run plays are called that bothered me.

Also found it interesting that Lovie went after Payne a little bit on the Jennings TD. Avalavo (sp) bit on the run – Lovie supported that decision, however I read an explanation where they were in a Quarters Defense back there and it was Payne’s responsibility to move over. Wonder why he didn’t understand his assignment?

by poolboy55 on Sep 15, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good to see you over here!

I would have had no problem if he dusted off an old Orton game plan

by wiltfongjr on Sep 15, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

w/ both—it IS good to see Poolboy over here, and for Cutler’s first outing—they SHOULD have started with an Ortonesque playbook, at least to open things up.

Considering:
the high pressure of opening game, on the road, division rival
intense media scrutiny
a new Packer defense
Packer defense WAITING for/expecting Cutler to take chances on long passes
inexperienced WRs
solid defense by the Bears

Given all that, why come out guns ablazin? Why not play steady, methodical possession ball, move the chains, get Forte running (couldn’t agree with your post more, by the way), get the TEs involved, and then start looking for the downfield stuff after a few series…?

Makes no sense to me.

Was it that Turner had a new toy, and wanted to see what it could do?
So he pushed it too hard, too early…let’s just hope he didn’t “break” it already.

Not to mix my metaphors, but winning a race isn’t all about gas, gas, gas—you need to mix in some braking and some maneuvering, too.

Bears better damn well have learned a lesson from this, or it’s gonna be a LOOOOOONG season…

by Amishbear on Sep 15, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and an Amishbear comment!!!

outstanding!

And, were there any checkdowns in the flats?

by wiltfongjr on Sep 15, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad

I have a few moments to coment…I’m hoping to make myself more commonplace the next 18 weeks or so (yep, I said 18).

May even try to do a blog over at SN, given the time…

Much time spent with the new little one, 4 months now (“Doughball Bear”, to go with my “Summer Bear”)…

Anyway, good to see your usual on-target insights on the matter…we’ll see how we bounce back against the Stealers.

by Amishbear on Sep 15, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

David Haugh had some input on the check offs. He claimed in his column today that Cutler checked out of multiple run calls and hinted that recognition by Cutler was the problem. Either way you analyze that, Cutler was given the keys to castle and Turner learned a valuable lesson. That being, Cutler still has some things to learn.

by poolboy55 on Sep 15, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the problem

Our coaching staff always seems to be one step behind the competition. After the Steeler game, there will something else to point to (hopefully I’m wrong). Adjustments in general haven’t been this staff’s strength.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Sep 15, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You’re not wrong there, and I wouldn’t bet against your prediction post-Steelers match.

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy

by Spongie on Sep 15, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they'd better be able to handle more disguised blitzes come Sunday

If you’ve watched Lebow over the years, he sends a different person at you almost every play on the blitz. If Pace, Williams, etc. and our RB’s can’t pick them up in time, Cutler will be running for his life. So maybe a few dumps in the flat will help, but our OL has got to perform a lot better than they did against GB.

by Waylon on Sep 15, 2009 3:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's why I'm confused

Jay didn’t look to the flats and dump-offs to Forte and Olsen.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Sep 15, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the great part of your idea is

they will not have their dump off stopper come monday!!!!

If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.

by chi-town on Sep 15, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

“Adjustments in general haven’t been this staff’s strength”

…and they’re particularly bad at halftime adjustments.

by Waylon on Sep 15, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

case in point: Super Bowl XLI, when the Colts ran about 7 plays in victory.

by Cosmis on Sep 15, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

brinig back the 46 defense

since we dont have the cover 2 personell anymore. Just a thought.

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by chi-town on Sep 15, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's great.

the 4-6 was one hell of a defense back in the day wasn’t it

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Sep 15, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the reason that the 46 defense is no longer used

Is because the West Coast Offense that everyone runs exposes all of its flaws…I think, someone correct me if I’m wrong.

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by ThorCo on Sep 15, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think about this,

with the personelle we had back then, we could’ve ran any type of defense and had great success. Those were the days.

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Sep 16, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

If they can’t cover using a zone cover 2 they sure as hell won’t be able cover man for man in the 46. Jerry blew it in the off season by not upgrading the secondary.

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by phastphil on Sep 15, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cutler doesn't like dump - off passes

If I remember correctly, his tendency in Denver was to do the Brett Favre thing and try to make the great play when he got rushed continuously – not a big fan of the dump – offs. I have no idea if the staff’s discussed this with him previously, and I would think that his ability to scramble would only increase his effectiveness with that type of option.

by Waylon on Sep 15, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Except

There was no Matt Forte in Denver.

And he had more experienced WRs there.

So he’d better damn well LEARN to like the dump off pass—he’s in CHIGAO NOW! :-)

by Amishbear on Sep 15, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And

the fact that he was targeted several times in the preseason as well.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Sep 15, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, dump they shit off please:-)

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Sep 15, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post Wilt and I agree with Amish.

Why come out guns blazing? You have to establish the run and some short to middle range pass plays and get some first downs before you start tossing the ball down field. Their line was playing on our side of the ball which needs to be addressed to our lineman no doubt. They were in Cutler’s face and giving Forte no room at all to do anything. It would have been nice to see some screen plays to Forte early on to ease the aggresivness of their defense. Why we didn’t get our TE’s involved early is beyond me. I have said it many times on here and I will say it again, Ron Turner’s play calling is horrible. Why do you line up in a single back formation against a 3-4 defense? Imo you give your running back a better chance with a blocker in your full-back. I don’t remember testing the outside a whole lot with Forte probably cause Cutler was to busy throwing interceptions, but I do understand your run it straight at them approach and agree. I know that in the past we have gotten on to our coaching staff about calling a game too conservative, but come on..there has to be some balance in the near future or we will have a long season.

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Sep 15, 2009 4:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Defenses Dominated

Plain and Simple. I personally don’t think you can blame Turner or Lovie for the Bears or McCarthy for the Packers offensive woes. The plain and simple fact when watching the game back on DVR is the defensive front 7’s for each team absolutely destroyed both of the offensive lines.

Cutler and Rodgers had no time to throw and Forte and Grant had no lanes to run in. It was classic Black and Blue Division football. Looking at the tape, the Bears shutdown the short passing game and the front 4 gave Rodgers no time to throw so the Packers offense was ineffective. The Packers front 7 blitzed the running lanes and they also gave Cutler no time to throw so he got flustered and threw picks. The defensive front 7’s just basically dominated the game.

by FavreSucks on Sep 15, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Without a doubt defensive lines dominated.

There are things you can do to take some of the pressure off your qb, screen passes to Forte. He is an excellent receiver.

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Sep 16, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hub Arkush summed it up correctly

A. The Bears are dreadful at wide receiver.

B. The consequence is that opposing defenses shall focus on double-teaming Greg Olsen and neutralizing the Matt Forte running game. Which is precisely what Dom Capers and Green Bay did.

In the assessment of Arkush - colored by the input of NFC front office personnel he has spoken to -

A. Devin Hester is what he is at wide receiver, and the potential for him to improve from what he already is doing is not there.

B. Earl Bennett is bad…on any other decent team he would be fighting for the 5th receiver job.

C. Joaquin Iglesias is not ready yet for the NFL.

D. Johnny Knox has the best potential and ability to contribute of all the Bear receivers….BUT, he is a longer-term work in progress

"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)

by BLou on Sep 15, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I just watched the INTs again...

On NFL.com

For a professional QB as accurate as Jay Cutler normally is, and for a QB who has a very good command of his new playbook… one has to wonder how his passes looked so off target. Cutler took some risks with many of his throws, as he’ll often do… he’s a gunslinger. But here’s the my overall judgement.

INT #1: Dez Clark was on the outside, and the safeties were on the inside. The throw went right into the direction of the safeties toward the hash, 5 yards short and 5 yards inside of Clark. Was Clark supposed to finish a post route that he gave up on? Or, was Cutler way off target?

INT #2: Johnny Jolly makes a helluva play for a D-lineman. Cutler and the Bears right side of the line are partially at fault for tipping the play to Jolly. Jolly wasn’t fooled all. If Johnny Knox manages to stay in bounds and score a TD on the bomb that preceded it… it’s a whole different game.

INT #3: Which brings me back to Knox… on this interception, Knox is clearly running the wrong route, as he turns in toward the post, while the throw ends a good 7 yards behind him at the outer hash mark.

INT #4: Johnny Knox, once again, gives up on the short slant, and allows Al Harris to jump the pass. Even worse, he gives up so badly, that he falls down. If he stuck his route, and keeps his body in front of Harris, it’s likely not intercepted, and maybe pass interference.

Another play that’s not on the reel: the TD pass that Dez Clark dropped in the back of the endzone, because he didn’t finished his route. When he turned to look back at Jay, the ball was surprisingly in the air and, he reached and dropped it.

A quality receiver, on the same page as his QB, would not have made those mistakes. The receiver would be where his QB expects him to be.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Sep 15, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The first Knox INT (#3) was probably the most obvious blown route

Charles Robinson on Yahoo Sports also said that Cutler was audibling out of run plays into pass plays. It looks like the Packers were definately coming out looking to stop the pass first…

by JimmyMack on Sep 15, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully Turner learned his lesson

Never abandon the run especially in a tight game like that one. Their one and only touchdown came off when they ran the ball to set up the TD pass to Hester. Also Hester had a good game, but he should have had a even better game if Cutler was looking more his way.

by NiqueBears on Sep 15, 2009 10:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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