Defenses hate those quick hitters, it negates their pass rush, and can wear down a defense by forcing them to pursue.

That was something our offensive coordinator in high school always used to preach, and it is certainly true on all levels. Make the big guys work on the DL.

I think Turner doesn’t get enough credit when the offense is successful, and obviously gets blasted when it stagnats.

Personally I just feel the Bears faced two very good run defenses, so I’m not concerned with Forte (or the run blocking of the O-Line)… his breakout is coming.

IMO they only faced one very tough run-defense. After providing some film on their defense, the Packers don’t have a good one. The Bears were at a great disadvantage, as everyone here has discussed, because they had no idea of their tendencies.

fine, ur right. i’ll give turner some credit. i still hate him though, he’s dumb and short. thats all im leaving this one straight up immature.

You hit it on the screws. If this gameplan were implemented in week one to nullify that blitz we would be 2-0 right now. Not sure why Turner didn’t adjust at halftime of the GB game but it worked against the Steelers 3-4 defense. I have to believe we are going to see the run game be much more effective this week.

The Bears have caused 16 negative yard plays through two games. That is 2nd in the league.

Generally I tend to not like a majority of his game calling but I wanna give him a year with Cutler before I totally bury him.

Turner’s history after a decent game plan has been to lay an egg in the next game, so I hope he can break that pattern. I’ll feel better about him then.

The way they used the quick passes to take advantage of Pittsburg consistant blitzing was a pretty good idea. 3-4 defenses are very hard to run against because you have two extra athletic linebackers on the field. I think we could have ran on the Packers front 7 if they pounded up the middle like Benson did last sunday.

Even IF Ron Turner called a good game, his time has come get out of town. Isn’t he PAID to call a good game? How often does that happen? Over the course of an entire game – rarely. The best drives the Bears have had over the past 2 or 3 seasons is when the QB’s headset is on the blink. He may call a good play occasionally, but more often than not, is far too predicable, which leads to failure, punts and field goals.

No ones on his jock, he just called a good game…

Apparently you’re a Ron Turner apologist?

If you remember, the explanation you refer to was explained at a Monday press conference that Griese supposed called to clarify his statement. This is a guy who was not comfortable with the press – I highly doubt the press conference was his idea – this came from the coaches (Lovie, or the dillweed himself) to protect the OC.

As for the one explanation to substantiate my position, that is one example that comes to mind. I seem to recall another late last year, but can’t pin down specifics.

As for being a “troll”, I just found this blog – seems entertaining enough… Here’s another that is worth reviewing…

http://fireronturner.net/

enjoy.

he was too conservative on the final dive IMO but it got the job done. Besides that it was a well coached game on both sides.

but I have to give him some credit for the game plan last week. I still call into question his in-game play-calling and I still do not understand his offensive philosophy, if there even is one. He is starting to do what having Cutler and poor run blocking forces him to do, throw quick. I do think Turner has designed some creative offensive sets and added a few wrinkles that could work well. My biggest questions are about his strategy and adjustments during the games. IMO, he sometimes outsmarts himself. It’s like the opposite of reverse psychology if that makes any sense.

To his credit, I think the offensive assistants do a poor job of assessing talent and struggle to develop players; ultimately making his OC duties more challenging.

I’m not really talking about the players as much as the blocking schemes. Maybe it’s just me, but our screen plays never seem to set up well because the blockers don’t seem to get in front of them consistently or very well. Also, it seems like the space created by other teams blocking schemes seem to give backs more room to make decisions and hit a hole, whereas our running plays always seem to have everyone jammed up in the same area with no spacing at all. I know a lot of people will say it’s the players, but even when we go through changes in personnel, like this year (with 60% new starters), it seems to still look the same. In a previous post, I referenced the NFL Network showing the Bears/Steelers game of ’95 and the blocking looked different with more spacing and Turner was the OC then.

I believe the O-line coach under Wannstedt was Tony Wise who coached with him at Dallas during the early 90’s and did a great job there as well. Our current guy, Harry Heistand, came with Turner from Illinoi and before that had no pro experience. I haven’t been impressed with the staff that Lovie has assembled prior to Marinelli, because he always seem to go for college coaches without benefit of dealing with players and schemes at this level. Just saying……