The Bears Den - 9/25/09
by ChiFan13 on Sep 25, 2009 12:00 AM CDT
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....where we're continuing the fight for the Park District to go away.
In The Den
670 The Score
Laurence Holmes wonders if the Bears can break out of the running slump this weekend.
ChicagoBears.com
The run-first mentality gives the Bears a boost.
Our defense can get even better, or so Larry says.
Chicago Now
Adewale Ogunleye blogeth! This time, he's answering a mailbag.
Chicago Sun-Times
The NFL fined Tyrone Carter for his hit on Greg Olsen.
Dah Mah Nah speaketh!
How else can Devin Aromashodu get involved?
More after the jump....
Chicago Tribune
Tillman isn't going to get in a war of words with T.J.
The Bears are remaining confident in their run game. I hope so....it's only been two weeks.
Daily Herald
The Bears are hoping to get the run game started against Seattle.
Hester will remain as a punt returner.
Alex Brown and Desmond Clark are back....sort of.
ESPN Chicago
Lance Briggs had some words for Housh.
Alex Brown sat out practice but is planning on playing on Sunday.
Sporting News
Our very own wiltfongjr has his Bears - Seahawks preview.
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hmm
Tight end Desmond Clark (cracked rib) was listed on the injury report that appears in the locker room as a "did not practice" early Thursday afternoon, but when the Bears took the field at 1:30 p.m., Clark was in full practice gear, including shoulder pads. He wasn’t moving at full speed, but it was an encouraging sign.
Someone is worried about there job?
Derreck Rose, you’ve gotta be flat-out kidding me. Double overtime! Triple overtime!
Am I alone in this?
Hester will remain as a punt returner.
Ugh. Think its time for ABH (Anyone But Hester)… run FORWARD!
Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave
Not entirely,
On the kick-off returns that was his most frustrating habit. It’s a little more understandable on punt returns, but no matter what, never run backwards. He does sometimes I swear, then I swear some more, and call the coaches and announcers names.
I would like to see him keep doing punt returns for at least the end of this year. Hopefully he will get back to form there and break a couple :)
Obviously, you missed yesterday's den when I brought this up
and brought all kinds of crap out!!!! I was actually referring to Lovie’s comments that he “is happy with everything he’s done” but it became a lonnnnnnnnng list of replies regarding Devin’s ability as a punt returner.
I think you give him one more game and if it’s the same thing we’ve seen for the last 18 games, you have to look at someone else just as you would any other player. I don’t mean a TD just positive yardage and no more bad decisions like catching it inside the 5 or letting it go between the 10 & 15 so it can be downed inside the 5. That seems to be his habit for the last year plus.
By the way, Allie, be prepared to be called a #$%^in’ Hester Hater. Apparently, after yesterday’s post, that’s a new club and I’m in it with you.
#$%^in’ Hester Hater! ;)
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 25, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions
F#&^(*$($&*&@#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
huh? oh, you’re right, we’ve already been through this.
i do agree with you that he has not been making great decisions on when to field the punts. i’m just willing to give him a little more time. as long as he doesn’t cause any major problems, til the end of the year.
I was going to reply to Allie's post with
ixnay on the ester-hay ashing-bay, but I wasn’t sure if anyone still understood “pig latin” from the old Stooges movies.
by BearFan611 on Sep 25, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I LOVE the Three Stooges
But that was waaaaay before my time…hell I think that was before my parents time lol
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
He's had bad judgement on when to field punts forever.
I remember way back in the good ol’ days, when Hester was in his “prime” and you and I were walking to school, with no shoes, uphill, both ways, that he used to do the same thing. The difference… the good was nixing the bad and memories were shorter when the touchdowns were there.
He also used to go East and West a lot, but he also used to find holes (that aren’t there now). He would be much better utilized as a KR, where he has room, and the vision to make those plays (IMO).
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 25, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Quit having opinions
and then backing them up with this stuff called logic. Before long you’ll begin to make “sense” and we can’t have any of that occurring. You’re treading on thin ice here people!!!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
She's sorry, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. Sorry! I'm sorry...
I’M NOT SORRY I took the money!!! MEEEHHHHHHH!!! AHahahaahah!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 25, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Another great movie!!
Hamburgers??
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
I've said the same exact thing (regarding KR vs. PR)
on two seperate occasions the last few days. Our coaching staff doesn’t seem to put people in the best positions to be successful.
Yeah... But you're a Hester Hater! :)
It’s not as if Manning wasn’t doing a good job though, or that Knox won’t. Nor is it that Hester won’t, or isn’t, doing that good of a job on punt returns.
But Hester’s brilliance (to me) is best suited where he can make those quick cuts and just fly by people when they get rooted for a split second. This happens when he has space – on KR’s, not when a guy is on him before he catches the ball. Thus causing him to have to run sideways and backwards a lot.
I’m with you, although this Knox kid could be pretty special – I just hope they aren’t going to hamper his ability in the passing game by putting too much on him in the return game. Kind of the opposite of the Hester experiment. Time will tell.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 25, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly, as I've said many times here
Hester’s talent is outrunning angles with his speed, not making people miss in close quarters. That’s one reason we haven’t seen him do anything really special from scrimmage or if he catches the ball in traffic. Despite my new designation (Hester Hater), I really am impressed with his progression as a WR and he is at his best on the outside, not in the slot as some have suggested.
To me the guys who might have the most ability to return punts and make people miss with their moves are Garrett Wolfe and Earl Bennett. I would move Hester back to KR duty and one of those two to PR (probably Wolfe, assuming he can catch punts).
Me no like Wolfe!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 25, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
%&*#Wolfe Hater!!!!
Overall, I’m not a big fan either, but for the purpose we were discussing he might be worth a shot.
On another subject I was going to comment about the Briggs column regarding Aromashadu getting involved by saying I’d rather see him activated than Rashied, but after yesterday I don’t think @#%ing Hester Hater & @#%ing Rashied Hater will fit on my business card.
Ha!
Like a hypothetical fungus, the Droppapotamus is growing on me… In the role that he’s in, that is. He’s made some plays on ST’s and I seem him as extremely useful in that capacity.
Although, I still don’t like him and think he’s a cotton headed ninny muggins!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 25, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
It’s also good to point out the Garret Wolfe made an appearance in this movie… Link’ers to that.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Sep 25, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
damn, dub H
i think we’ve all been through all of these arguments before but i guess it gives us something to do. since hester, knox and bennett appear to be enough for cutler in the passing game i think we have to stick with rashied for his ST’s play. remember, he was a CB at one point and he does a good job of getting downfield and making a tackle.
He's best suited for kick returns
because he doesn’t have to think as much. The guy is dumb as a goddamn brick, so having to make split-second decisions on a punt return with a gunner flying at him doesn’t exactly play to his strengths.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
and Tyrone Carter's inanity further convinces me of his unsportsmanlike intentions
“Unreal,” Carter told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. “They said I led with the crown of my helmet. I watched the play over and over again, and I hit him in the shoulder. I didn’t hit him in the head.”
neither the fact that he hit him in the shoulder nor that he did not hit him in the head address whether or not he led with the crown of his helmet.
Lol.
Maybe he is still dazed…
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec (wreck) comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
Just because it can be done on Madden NFL does not automatically make it a viable option in real life.
probably a preexisting condition...
I would like to discuss your sig though. There is inherent truth to your statement, video games are not capable of accounting for the infinite possibilities that exist in real life.
However your sig seems to acknowledge that you do see Madden as having some value as a fairly accurate simulation of NFL football. “automatically” and “viable option” still leaves room for an enlightenment.
Also I acknowledge because I am really good at Madden my Bears might do better than the real ones occasionally. [i credit that fact for helping me maintain relative sanity during the “______ is the QB of our future” era.]
So yeah Hester out of the wildcat (the play that does exist in the Chicago Bears playbook [somewhere…please find it RON] referred to in the past as the ‘Cane formation, Forte in wildcat is called Cajun] might not lead to Hester leading the league in rushing TDs like it does in madden. Nonetheless, I think they need to try several different plays out of these formations in actual game time to figure out which ones they can use successfully… ie i think developing these plays designed to get the ball in Hester’s hands is worth the investment of 3-4 plays a game, especially if we can ever get a lead to sit on. Maybe a reverse play or something. It kind of angers and amazes me that in his 4th year in the league the Bears still have not thought of a more creative way to get Hester the ball than returning.
and to end with this gem: according to Madden Franchise mode Tim Tebow will be drafted by the 49ers and will be the league MVP in his second season.
I'm of the mind
that Tebow ends up being the next Ryan Leaf
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
by BearNecessities on Sep 26, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Tebow will be a legit NFL superstar
if you have the option to buy or sell i cannot understand selling on T
I like his skills and everything
i just dont see him not wanting to be a QB, and i dont see that working out real well, being used as a reggie bush type.
i dont think it translates into NFL prowess…. i have been wrong before.
I believe he’d do well in a Viking offensive set, kind of a spread fast football, maybe
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
by BearNecessities on Sep 26, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
FB/TE nonsense
he will be starting QB in the NFL. if i cared enough i’d say i would almost bet my life on.
Just not a good one...
I say JaMarcus Russell/Vince Young 2.0. The cutesy running QB crap from the college level doesn’t translate too well. The wildcat thing is also cute, but it is not an offense, just a small subset of plays. A mobile QB is one thing, but no team has the guts to put together an offense where the main running threat is the highest paid player on the team!
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
Jamarcus Russell isn't a running qb.
He’s just lousy. I’m a Gator fan and I love Tebow, but I’m not sure that his game is going to translate on the next level. If Urban starts running some pro-style sets for him it will help. With NFL teams starting to run the spread again though, you never know.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
wonder how well tebow will do running against nfl lb's
may not look so awesome then like he does when he is running amok against opposing defenses now.
i would like to see him do well though, just sayin.
by reefermadness3 on Sep 26, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
you and i shall pick this discussion up next year, when the raiders/rams/lions/bucs are looking for a new QB
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
by BearNecessities on Sep 26, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
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