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The Quotable Bears - Week Three

This week, I was at least able to watch the last 45 seconds of this game. I paid attention to the game during work and listened to Joniak for a good part of it. Here's what I know after this game:

- Jay Cutler's stat line looked good, but I know it doesn't tell the full story. Was his interception awful? Was Cutler hampered by another poorly-called game on Ron Turner's part?

- Matt Forte was better, but still not terrific.

- Johnny Knox = still a good fantasy pickup.

- I still have a huge man-crush on Lance Briggs.

Even with all of that, I have some questions:

- The times I was listening to Joniak, it sounded like Ron Turner struggled at times to call good plays. This true?

- How did Forte look? Did he get some decent runs, or just a bunch of 1- and 2-yarders?

- Why does our defense continually make stupid penalties?

- Speaking of defense, how was Seneca freaking Wallace able to carve up our D?

Anyways, let's get on with it.

Star-divide

Lovie on the game:

"Every win that I've ever been a part of is pretty. This says a lot about our team. When you're down and things are going against you, they kept fighting. That's what good teams do."

Lovie on his gameplan:

"You have to take what they are giving you, and that's what we're going to do. There's nothing wrong with the pass. I'd like to be known as a running team that can pass the ball."

Lovie on Roach's performance:

"It's tough when you go to your third linebacker, but Nick Roach stepped in and did a super job of getting the calls (and getting) us in the right spots."

Cutler on his pass to Hester:

"Any time you can get Devin Hester one-on-one, it works."

Cutler on Hester:

"He's shown me something since I first got here. When I first got here, they said he didn't know the playbook, he couldn't get in and out of cuts, [and] he had trouble catching the ball. All that has been false since Day One -- since I first arrived here. He's worked as hard, if not harder, than anybody in that room to get ready for this season."

Cutler on coming through in the clutch:

"I pride myself in that. I want the ball in those situations. Fourth quarters we have to play our best, and I think we are right now."

Cutler on Qwest Field:

"It's loud. This is a tough place to play. ... The crowd really gets into it, and the defense feeds off it."

Hester on his touchdown:

"It was basically a slant call. We knew that we could get them on a quick slant, so we took advantage of it. Jay [Cutler] threw a great ball, the offensive line held up, and we got it into the end zone."

Hester on the win:

"It's tough, Seattle is a good team. We just showed today that we're capable of playing all four quarters. Coming out of Pittsburgh, and going to play in this tough environment and coming out with a win, that was pretty big for us today."

Olsen on the game:

"Our hats off to our defense for creating turnovers, holding them on key plays, holding them to field goals and bad field position. They played really well."

Olsen on Qwest Field:

"It's an extremely difficult place to play. You do the best job you can. I think for the most part even though we had a couple of penalties here and there, we did a good job lessening the impact of the noise."

Nick Roach on the win:

"It's huge. It's huge at any time, coming far away from home, being down at one point and then being able to be on top in the end. It's just huge."

Nick Roach on the 4th-and-2 play:

"We were bringing a little bit of pressure, and I knew I had (Jones) man-to-man, wherever he went.  As soon as I saw him fly out, I try to chase him the best I could. Luckily, it was a bad throw.

"I feel comfortable. I think the guys trust me. They trust anybody that shows they're calm under that kind of pressure."

Hunter Hillenmeyer on his injury:

"I kept getting hit in the same spot. I wasn't effective out there."

Adewale on Qwest Field:

"This crowd noise is the loudest in the NFL by far. Nowhere else is even close."

Adewale on the halftime talk:

"You know coach [Smith] talked about that [turnovers] at halftime. He talked about how it's a momentum builder, and a confidence builder. We hadn't had any turnovers, and the first drive [to start the second half], we did it. That was good for our defense to get the wheels turning."

Briggs on T.J. Houshmandzadeh being mostly absent:

"I think our defensive backs did a good job. I don't know how many yards he had, but our defensive backs did the talking with the way we played."

Manning on whether T.J. was talking in his ear:

"He didn't say anything. I think it was 95 to 5 the other way."

T.J. Houshmandzadeh on whether Briggs won the battle today:

"Of course he did because they won. But I was open all game. They just didn't throw me the ball."

T.J. Houshmandzadeh on his trash talk:

"The question was asked why I didn't come to Chicago. All I said was the Bears didn't holler at me and maybe they didn't think I was good enough. That's it. I don't think it was a big deal." [ChiFan13 edit: BS]

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by topdoggkyle on Sep 27, 2009 10:50 PM CDT reply actions  

You mean Douchemandzadeh?!?
“Of course he did because they won. But I was open all game. They (Wallace) just didn’t throw me the ball.”

Way to call out your QB, who (for a backup) had a really good game. What a tool! This makes me even more glad that JA didn’t sign him and his overpriced ego.

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by David Taylor on Sep 28, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

In case you were wondering...

the pick wasn’t too bad. Cutler kind of floated one to Knox, who jumped to get it and tipped it to the defender. Forte is still running hard, he’s just not getting lanes. He did have a few 5 and 6 yarders, and the 10 yarder. AP had an 8 or 9 yarder too. The running game is slowly coming along. Kind of.

by Cosmis on Sep 27, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Cutler got hit on the throw a bit.

Derreck Rose, you’ve gotta be flat-out kidding me. Double overtime! Triple overtime!- Chuck wack on crack

by SoulEater7 on Sep 27, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Concerns about our O-Line

another week and another awful performance we cant set up run of there are no lanes open, and it seemed cutler was rushed to throw the ball every time. There are some major things we need to get fixed in that O-line to be consider a playoff team.

by Man G on Sep 27, 2009 11:23 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree...

…if the O-Lone doesn’t get it together and quick, these late wins will become…well, I’m sure you get it. Chris Williams gets burned ALOT! Pace can hold his own against decent pass rushers, but truly premier speed guys run around him. I think Forte is suffering from a severe lack of effective blocking. Please don’t get me wrong; the lanes open up; sporadically. So Forte gets stopped as much by the good guys (us) as by the bad guys. Because the line sporadically opens lanes, we end up running on 3rd and this, or 3rd and that. The result is often a punt. And with a less confident and mobile QB, the protection would look worse than it does.
Of all of the concerns we had coming into 2009 (Wrs, DBs), and even with the decimation of our LBing corp, I honestly think the line is a bigger concern.

Getcha Beernuts Ready!

by Fly1965 on Sep 28, 2009 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah..

The one pick he threw was off his back foot because he was getting pressured by 2 guys and didn’t have time to wrap it up and take the sack..otherwise yes, our Oline held in the 2nd half, but the first half they looked terribad.

by Pretender85 on Sep 28, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

He also got hit on the throw

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Sep 28, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Peterson has looked better than Forte..

Why is probably another question, as each back has specific plays called for them. It did seem like Peterson hit the holes with more spark and went out looking to maul, while Forte seems a little tentative – it could be that the opposing D’s are really keying on Forte, or that his running style hasn’t meshed yet with the new O-line personnel. The Bears need to fix this, because teams better than Seattle would have but the bears down 21-0 today while the offense figured it out, and we will not win consistently without more potent opening series. This is on Turner to fix from a play-calling standpoint. Two straight runs followed by a pass were unbelievably predictable, and then the decision to kick a risky 53 yard field goal not only broke momentum, but gave back the great field position that Knox got us on the opening kickoff. However, I think everyone should be pleased with being 2-1 right now.. very pleased. Let’s get to 3-1 and spend the bye week figuring out how to rush (and tackle runningbacks).

by DisCUBbobulated on Sep 27, 2009 11:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I also think...

AP came in later in the game, which helped his cause. I watched Wolfe get stacked up for a loss, and before I could really finish the fit I was throwing at what a ridiculous call it was having him run up the middle, he ran for 11 yards on an identical play. I honestly feel like we lack consistency in the blocking.

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by Fly1965 on Sep 28, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bears: still a work in progress.

The end result of what I saw today was obviously good, but Turner stuck out the most to me as the main culprit for what shouldn’t have been a close game. Why exactly was Wolfe in there for a crucial late-game 3 and 1 play? It literally looked like he was scared to run in-between the tackles. No screen passes or draw plays to speak of either (not good when the line still needs work). I’m not sure why Seattle’s defense wasn’t tested deep either with all our speed on the outside. On a different note, Jay’s untimely turnovers helped attribute to a 6 point halftime deficit, but he certainly made up for it in the 2nd half with some clutch passes to Hester and Olsen.

Cutler on Hester:

“He’s shown me something since I first got here. When I first got here, they said he didn’t know the playbook, he couldn’t get in and out of cuts, [and] he had trouble catching the ball. All that has been false since Day One — since I first arrived here. He’s worked as hard, if not harder, than anybody in that room to get ready for this season.”

Great quote on Jay praising Devin with his hard work; it’s starting to pay dividends on offense.

With everything said, the Bears were very fortunate to come away with a win in a very hostile environment against a wounded team. I’m glad they have the Lions next week followed by a bye week. The offense needs to gel a little more in the running game, cause this ain’t going to cut it. If they can’t get it together up front, then I propose Turner implement some sort of spread or 4 WR set (Olsen as one of them) in order to be more effective utilizing their speed and create mismatches.

Standout players-

Briggs- man amongst men
Roach- solid overall play
Olsen- finally getting open
Hester- speed kills
Bennett- showing more consistency
Tillman- yet another FF

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Sep 27, 2009 11:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Also...

Knox deserves an honorable mention. The dude will be an elite WR by the time it’s all said and done!

Getcha Beernuts Ready!

by Fly1965 on Sep 28, 2009 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely

He made a nice play on his TD run.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Sep 28, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

...and his returns.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Sep 28, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Answers:

1) I think Jay looked good. The pass for Knox was a bit high, Knox bounced it straight up with his fingers and it came down in the arms of the Seahawks. Throw was too high, but seriously, I think a missed throw or two is totally worth what we’re getting out of Cutler.

2) Turner’s play calling is interesting. It’s not going to win any awards or anything, but I don’t hate on Lovie and Ron like a lot of folks. It’s not an easy job, and he’s going to have to learn how to use an offense that can be pass-happy when it needs to be. The real challenge will be in not being one-dimensional and getting 2-3 picks a game.

3) Forte was pretty bottled up. A couple nice moves outside, but down the middle, it was 1s and 2s all day.

4) I think a lot of it is down to playing in Seattle.

5) Because Wallace and run and shift, but most of our rushers are fast only in a straight line. They would have KILLED Hasselbeck, but Wallace can move. There were a few times that he’d get touched and grabbed, but he’s quicker than I expected.

Overall, a W. I was pissed that Favre pulled that game out of his azz, but at least we’re not tied with the Lions. Dunno how many more heart attack games I can take though, lol.

by Virto on Sep 27, 2009 11:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Wallace...

… played a pretty good game I thought. I agree totally with your point #5 – I think the Dline would have sacked Matt several times.

by SC Dave on Sep 28, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

O-line

Here is my question. Are the o-line problems scheme or personal? If there scheme is that on turner. If there personal, what players? Also, ideas on actions to correct?

by Jhitt81 on Sep 28, 2009 12:17 AM CDT reply actions  

I think it's personal

They running the same run plays from last year, the difference is just personel. You have two new Tackles that’s known as Pass Blockers in Williams and Pace. Graza has never been known to be the toughest run blocker in years past. Then you have a Tackle trying to play LG who lacks the fundamentals and technique to play the position. Our best run blocking Lineman is on the bench in Beekman, and I just don’t get how the coaches can just give Omiyale his job based off his contract.

by Dominique Blanton on Sep 28, 2009 2:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hear, hear!

Omiyale has been disappointing, at best.

by SC Dave on Sep 28, 2009 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

Garza was rated as one of the best run-blocking guards in the NFL.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Sep 28, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Garza graded out as one of the best if not the best run blocker on the Bears O line

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Sep 28, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Olin isn't doing much in the run game either.

Unless you count missing blocks. And getting pushed around.

You can't believe everything you read on the internet, that's how World War One got started.

by Ditkavsworld on Sep 28, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hate to say it,

but your right. Olin Kreutz has not looked good at all.

by rdent4hof on Sep 29, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Matt Forte was better, but still not terrific.

No. Mattt Forte was shit. Shit on a wooden stick.

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 28, 2009 2:38 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm a big fan of Forte's but I have to agree with you regarding yesterday's game.

Granted, the o-line sucks, but he does look tentative and he’s doing a lot of “skipping” into the hole. I’m still of the opinion that our blocking schemes aren’t very good because they don’t cause any spacing and bunch everyone up at the hole so the backs don’t really have choices. Jiggetts made a comment on the Comcast postgame show that our pulling guards run flat to the line of scrimmage where they should be getting more depth and coming up to hit the defenders. He mentioned that when you’re running parallel to the line, you can’t get leverage so everyone just piles up and the back has no options.

He also said that our linemen seem to do more “catch blocking” on running plays, rather than getting low and under the pads of the D-linemen to drive them off the ball. Interesting points from a former offensive lineman.

by BearFan611 on Sep 28, 2009 6:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's not the o-line

Forte just blows.

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 28, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Come on....

if you combined the genes of Gale Sayers, Jim Brown, Walter Paytong, and Barry Sanders and produced a kid, even he couldn’t find a hole behind this line.

by BearFan611 on Sep 28, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

right

the same former players saying its the line apparently know less than you.

by mike b on Sep 28, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who are the former players?

I hadn’t heard about this, so I’m genuinely curious.

But honestly, I think it’s both sides at fault. Forte looks a step slower to me.

by jake1823 on Sep 28, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

jim miller, vasher, jiggets, tom waddle

pretty much every player on any post game i have watched.

by mike b on Sep 28, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought you meant formers players

as in players from last year or the year before. Although, that makes no sense, considering it’s a revamped line.

I need more coffee.

by jake1823 on Sep 28, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'd imagine

most people would take that over your dumb ass any day.

by mike b on Sep 28, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

great comeback

now, crawl back in your hole

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 28, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

my hole. where i don’t pump gas. but keep talking shit.

by mike b on Sep 28, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have two eyes, thank you

and you must be blind if you can’t see this guy hits the hole like a log on concrete. he doesn’t cut, he can’t break tackles, and he can’t punch it in from the goal line.

But, sure. it’s all the line’s fault. Because Tom Waddle said so.

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 28, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

lmao

Dude, if you can’t see that our OL was horrible yesterday, you need to get your eyes check. I took a looksie on DVR and the line = bad.

Was Forte maybe not hitting holes like he used to? Yes. Is it all his fault or is it because he sucks? No.

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Sep 28, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe we could

all pitch in, and get some contacts for him?

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Sep 28, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

whatever

i see Adrian peterson and Wolfe able to squeeze between the tackles and get some yards. Forte has no passion when he hits that hole. Screw him! he sucks.

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 28, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now now...

AP and GW have success because of Forte and you know it.

You can't believe everything you read on the internet, that's how World War One got started.

by Ditkavsworld on Sep 29, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

not sure there’s much behind the eyes though.

by mike b on Sep 28, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.........

Seems like you could write the book on knee-jerk reactions. Are you really giving up on Forte?

Inability to run the football = 70% O Line + 30% Forte

Forte looks tentative, but have you really seen holes that he is missing?

Let’s not forget that with this corps of receivers (they’ve done ok), a receiving threat out of the backfield is critical and forte is just that.

"If you're scared, go buy a dog" - Stacey King

by Hack on Sep 28, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

to clarify

I’m not down on our receivers, I’ve been impressed with hester, bennett, knox, and olsen (to some degree).

Cutler is doing a great job of going through his progression and distributing the ball to several different guys, Forte is a big part of this.

"If you're scared, go buy a dog" - Stacey King

by Hack on Sep 28, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't give me that!

Garrett Wolfe can be a receiving threat out of the backfield. it doesn’t take alot to catch the ball out of the flats.

Forte sucks. he’s holding our offense from reaching it’s full potential.

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 28, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

dude

give it up
Population of people wanting to talk/hear about Forte “sucking” = you

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Sep 28, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you see Bradley's TD catch?

If not, here’s a LINK (#4) for you.

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by David Taylor on Sep 28, 2009 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jeez!

that man is jesus in a red jersey.

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 28, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Watch it now!

Don’t make me pull your “I <3 Bradley” card again! ;)

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Sep 28, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

IMO

Forte caught some crucial passes. Our line seemed to run backwards. ALOT! No screens. The O-Line needs to be on a wooden stick with the RBs. Again, IMO.

Getcha Beernuts Ready!

by Fly1965 on Sep 28, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think they need

To run to the outside more. They did a couple times and it seemed to work but then they went back to running up the middle.It’s coming along but slowly. I hope it comes on soon.

by Sam Householder on Sep 28, 2009 7:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah but...

to do that, the Tackles need to hold up. Otherwise, it ends up being a tackle for loss. Chris Williams is struggling hard! Pace is strong, but slow.

Getcha Beernuts Ready!

by Fly1965 on Sep 28, 2009 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the story of the game to me

is the development of our WRs. Knox is playing well and deserves the love but to me Devin Hester has impressed me the most this season. It’s not just the fact that he scored that TD, it’s the catches that he is making.

Last week against Pittsburgh, he made the biggest catch of the game on 3rd down in the 4th qtr. He’s dropped one pass all season, and has made great catches all year. Is he a #1? Who cares. All I know is that he’s the goods right now and he’s making a lot of his critics look real bad.

by Dils on Sep 28, 2009 7:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I would have to agree with you on this

Devin Hester, more then he ever has, actually looks and plays like a wide receiver, even a number 1 wide receiver. He has had some serious productive plays when he has had the oppurtunity. The nice catch over the shoulders in Lambeau, the stiff arm to charles woodson for 12 yards lol. The clutch 3rd down catch in the Steelers game. The go ahead T.D on the slant yesterday. The nice reverse..before it got called back lol.

Call me crazy but ladies and gents, Devin Hester has finally arrived. He is our #1 receiver and you can tell how confident he is now.

by Chitownproduct on Sep 28, 2009 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good points

also, the play that Hester made earlier where he stretched for the first down was huge. It’s getting lost in the game winning TD, but it showed his maturation as a WR and an offensive player by knowing exactly where the markers were and not being denied in getting there.

This might actually get rid of the “*&^ing Hester Hater” tag that I was stuck with last week.

by BearFan611 on Sep 28, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice, i didnt get a chance to see the game but i listened to it on the interent.

Being aware of the first down marker just strenghtens the fact he has come into his own.
I have a feeling Hester has earned a certain status with Cutler now, expect him to become his new Brandon Marshall lol.

by Chitownproduct on Sep 28, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

This game (at least the first half) was extremely tough to listen to.

I did the same, then watched the replay last night. Love Joniak’s call, but jeebus it was stressful to “ride blind” on this one.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Sep 28, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

i feel you smudgers

when i heard about the 3rd and 19 3rd down conversion by Jones when Peanut didn’t wrap up I almost ripped my headphones off and tossed it into my monitor.

by Chitownproduct on Sep 29, 2009 2:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

you'll always be double H to me

he didn’t really have a chance to prove you right or wrong on PR’s though. he only got to touch one i think. hopefully the lions will have to punt a little more next week.

by genetic on Sep 28, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed,

It is exactly the type of catches that Hester is making, that are going to get him to #1 status. The expectations for Hester were that he was going to out run all opposing DB’s down the sideline and be our burner.

All off-season us fans on this site stressed about what we were going to do about a possession receiver. Apparently we had him all along and didn’t even know it. Hester’s clutch catches this year have sealed his #1 status, as far as I’m concerned.

Hester and our burner Knox have been the biggest bright side of the season so far.

by Fridge72 on Sep 28, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

You sure?

I think he should be put back to a PR full-time. J/K! I’m so tired of hearing people say he’s more valuable there than WR; there’s nothing more valuable than having a game-winning TD catch.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Sep 28, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

O-line

Where is Beekman? Can managment just let the guy play ? He has the punch and technique, not just a leaner like Omiyale (with his contract)… On 1 play Forte just blasted into Williams, and if his O lineman can’t get out of the way or create some running lanes then that’s what they desearve…

by Shanemach on Sep 28, 2009 8:20 AM CDT reply actions  

I miss Beekman too,

I understand that there are three new players on this line and it takes a while for an O-line to gel. Despite Omiyale’s size advantage, Beekman really grew on me last year.

The fact that Omiyale’s contract is bigger could certainly be a reason that he is in there over Beekman, as sad as that is. I wonder though if: Omiyale could be in there learning to play guard because, coaches know that Beekman likely will be our starting center soon and hopefully Omiyale will have learned the guard position by then and fully gelled with the rest of the line?

In a year, two at the most, it is likely that Beekman and Omiyale will be on the line together.

by Fridge72 on Sep 28, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Beekman is in fact, the future at Center.....

then the Bears better start drafting guards, I know Omiyale is only 26, but I can’t see him being the future over there.

"If you're scared, go buy a dog" - Stacey King

by Hack on Sep 28, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Omiyale needs to gain 40 lbs.

or he’ll get pushed around all game.

by McRipper on Sep 28, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is a big guy

and seems fairly quick for his size. I wonder if he will pan out if he learns better guard technique. He doesn’t seem to get low and drive, I wonder how long it takes to really move from tackle to guard? Plus the whole line gelling.

by Fridge72 on Sep 29, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Bears,

will definitely have to do some more drafting on the offensive line next year. It will be difficult with the recent trend of a run on O-line in the first round. That usually seems to only pertain to Tackles, but we might need one of those too.

Unless we move Omiyale back to tackle, it will be easier for us to get a guard as there will be more talent at that position available in later rounds. I think we’re going to have to draft some D-line as well, with no first round pick it will be tough.

Let’s hope Jerry does as well again as I think he did this year.

by Fridge72 on Sep 29, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmm

“He’s shown me something since I first got here. When I first got here, they said he didn’t know the playbook, he couldn’t get in and out of cuts, [and] he had trouble catching the ball. All that has been false since Day One — since I first arrived here. He’s worked as hard, if not harder, than anybody in that room to get ready for this season.”
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I wonder who “they” are? Hope he’s talking about the media and not the coaches. I really can’t take another week of the press running with “Jay is a schmuck”…

by jake1823 on Sep 28, 2009 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Giving Rashied Davis some love...

I can’t believe I am shouting out some props for Rashied Davis, but here goes.

He had another monster game as gunner on special teams. Perfect, no, but the closing speed of a gunner to a return man means they will miss some times… having said that, Davis is really putting together a great season at a critical and mostly overlooked position.

I admit the guy horrifies me as a wideout… he couldn’t catch a cold in a truckload of dirty Kleenex… but he is sure earning his keep on special teams.

Another overlooked but critical play in yesterday’s game was William’s recovery of the fumble… quick reaction, he jumped on it and held onto it… most of the time when an OL jumps on a ball the rock squirts out the side, but CW held onto it. Now if he could only learn how to run block.

by sabbath999 on Sep 28, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Davis

What I saw were good returns by Seattle all day. He actually badly missed the returner on one kickoff, allowing a substantial gain. I think he needs to be cut so Aroma can get some playing time. Toub needs to get the STS in order, because they’re a shell of what they used to be.

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by propheteer on Sep 28, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ayanbadejo

ST unit suffered tremendously when he left. The Bears were greaton both sides of ST when he was here, not just returns. I can’t blame the Bears for not signing him because of his contract demands, but damn, he is missed.

by McRipper on Sep 28, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

And what's he doing

as a defensive player on the Ravens??? (legit question)

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by BearNecessities on Sep 28, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

??

He’s playing defense for the Ravens? I didn’t know that. Everytime I watch the Ravens, I never see him on D.

by McRipper on Sep 29, 2009 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I couldnt find any stats on him either

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by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

This year

15 Tackles, 1 sack, 1 int, and a PD

by ddub101 on Sep 29, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Ravens

were willing to meet his contract demands just for a special teams ace.

by Fridge72 on Sep 29, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course

It was CW’s missed block that caused Jay to fumble the ball!

But at least he made the best out of a bad situation.

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Sep 28, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the missed block on the fumble

Came from Cutler’s blind side, and either Pace or Olsen (who I believe was blocking on the play) got beat bad.

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by Hack on Sep 28, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

pretty sure Olsen

missed the block, but i think that was the negative when we drafted him… he wasn’t a blocker… which leads to why Michael Gaines isn’t being used yet

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by BearNecessities on Sep 28, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did anyone watch the pregame for SNF?

Tony Dungy was talking about how impressed he was with Cutler and how great he looked the last couple of weeks. It still burns me that he said what he did right after we got Cutler, but it was nice to see him admit that Cutler has looked good recently.

That being said, he couldn’t leave well enough alone and went on to say that the a former Bucs LB will probably be getting a call from the Bears very soon. How will another weakside LB help the Bears? It’s not Briggs that is hurt now. In a couple of weeks, we will have Pisa back, and it doesn’t seem that HH was that hurt. The Bears will not be signing Brooks unless Briggs goes down, and if that happens, the injury bug is just out to destroy the Bears this year.

by ddub101 on Sep 28, 2009 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Dude

Don’t ever use those words about a certain person going down. We don’t need jinxes.

by sabbath999 on Sep 28, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't he also push for Marvin Harrison in Chicago?

How’d that work out?

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by David Taylor on Sep 28, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Garza graded out as one of the best if not the best run blocker on the Bears O line

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Sep 28, 2009 11:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Good game.

Good late-game play by Cutler, glad he’s working out for you guys. Also impressed by the play of the backup, Roach. Most impressive was Hester, showing that he can be a pretty good receiver and not just a special teams beast; great grabs by him.

If our slump should miraculously reverse itself and we can reclaim our division, hope to see you all again in the playoffs.

by Anticitizen_One on Sep 29, 2009 6:11 AM CDT reply actions  

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