Defensively Speaking
With the Bears new look offense getting most of the publicity, and not all of it good (the run game can get going any time now), I thought I'd look inside the numbers on the defensive side of the ball. Lovie Smith made a big splash this off-season announcing he would take over defensive play calling, but has it been effective so far? In a small sample size of just 3 games, it's still to early to tell, but we can start to see some tendencies starting to form.
Something I was pleasantly surprised about is the frequent and effective use of the blitz. And not just the obvious shoot the A gaps blitzes of years past, but he's brought DB's off the edge and LB's on some delay blitzes. He's doubled up on some blitz angles and he's utilized the plug the gap run blitzes on occasion too. I thought Lovie was going to fall back into his basic Tampa 2 philosophy, but he's mixed it up quite well so far. Not to say the Tampa 2 look is gone, Nick Roach had a nice pass breakup in the Seattle game, albeit with his back turned, but he was in the right place taking away deep middle in the zone.
Looking at the defensive numbers so far, the Bears rank;
12th in scoring defense at 18 points per game
9th in total yards allowed at 293.3
13th in rushing yards allowed at 94.7
12th in passing yards allowed at 198.7
2nd in sacks with 9 (3 teams are tied at #1 with 10, and Chicago is tied at #2)
24th in turnover ratio at -2
All except the sack numbers, the Bears aren't overly impressive in any category, but I looked deeper into the stats and found positive reasoning the Bears could be on their way to becoming the top 5 unit many of us predicted they would be. First the obvious, the turnover margin will fliparound soon, as that is a staple of any Lovie Smith defense. However I would like to see them wrap up before they go for the strip.
Looking at average yards per play the Bears rank 6th in the league at 4.7, in yards per pass play they rank 7th at 6.2, and in yards per rush attempt they rank 13th at 3.9. I'd like to see the yards per rush brought down, but overall I think your have to give positive marks to the defense as a whole. The defense held Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers to their worst games on the season thus far, and in the 3 games opposing QB's have a rating of 81.0.
The coaches can only do so much, it's up to the players to make plays. Tommie Harris had an active game against the Seahawks with 3 tackles, and he was getting a nice push up the middle. With his injury history I expected him to have a slow start on the year, but he looks to be rounding into shape. Zack Bowman led the team in tackles with 8 in Seattle, his physical presence is a nice change from Nate Vasher. Danieal Manning and Al Afalava look to be the right mix at safety, and I liked the way the linebacking unit stepped up last game.
If I was to give a letter grade to the defense so far (it looks like I am), I'm going with a solid B. Then again I guess we could blow up the Defense? Your thoughts?
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The tendency to play "bend but don't break."
Is starting to wear on me. We’ve had 4 field goals missed on us, but we’ve also come up with some sweet turnovers at key times. We still lack good solid fundamental tackling but this team plays with intensity. They may not win games for us but they keep us in games and give the offense the chances it needs. Now can we please find our run game?
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by Just Dave on Sep 29, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Night and day difference in passing yards allowed per game from last year.
Last year, we finished 30th in the league with 241.2 yards per game. And so far, as you pointed out, we are at 198.7. Huge difference, and especially considering we’ve faced Rodgers and Roethlisberger.
If we stay around that average for the entire year, we will finish where the Titans and Giants finished last year (9th and 8th respectively) in that category.
On a side note, last week, we beat the Steelers, and espn moved us up one whole position in their power rankings. Well, this week, we make it our second win in a row, in a tough Qwest Field atmosphere, and how many spots did we move up? Zero.
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by Dane Noble on Sep 29, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With all due respect
Power rankings in pro football are about as useless at tits on a boar.
Who cares what some idiot in Bristol, CT thinks?
by sabbath999 on Sep 29, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boars are the BOY piggies.
Just sayin’
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by Just Dave on Sep 29, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the packers beat the Rams
and move up…what a crock
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by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good read,
That was Nick Roache with the pass break-up in Seattle though wasn’t it. The play where the ball hit him in the back?
I for one have liked Lovie’s play calling, much better than Babich. I would just like to see our CB’s playing a little closer to the line of scrimmage in 3rd and short situations.
by Fridge72 on Sep 29, 2009 2:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Was it Roach?
Maybe… if I get confirmation I’ll edit my post…
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 29, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exhibit A
Went back and watched the last series again on Rewind to make sure. Pass was intended for Carlson (89) and bounced off Roach (53). Pic below shows a second or two after the ball ricocheted of his back.

If desired, this post/photo can be deleted. Just added for clarification.
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by smudgers on Sep 29, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I went back and checked it last night too
thanks for looking out
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 30, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem.
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by smudgers on Sep 30, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bears defense has improved by two grade levels
from D+ last season to B+/ A – now.
The pass rush is so much better, like D to A – grade. Quarterbacks are running for their life and they gotta be good to make plays against this defense line. Just ok isn’t gonna cut it anymore like the past two seasons against our defense. They just gotta stuff the run which is where there is room for improvement. Those running backs are slicing up the middle and with Urlacher out, the D Line needs to really be stronger. But I am coming to close to changing my Oso Monstar of Midway profile description, I have not gotten over the sacking of Ron Rivera. But I gotta admit that under Marinelli this D Line is improved with a new groove.
The Ghost of Ron Rivera haunts the Windy City...
by Oso Monstar of Midway on Sep 29, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I gave them a C ( would have gone with C+/B- but it wasn't an option) only because I don't think they've been outstanding, but
I do believe they are performing better than last year due to the increased pressure they are putting on the QB. They’re tendancy to give up 3rd downs on short slants is still troubling and I don’t understand why, after 5 years, they can’t figure out how to fix that flaw in the scheme.
by BearFan611 on Sep 29, 2009 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
true dat i give them a B now
The Ghost of Ron Rivera haunts the Windy City...
by Oso Monstar of Midway on Sep 29, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
An A cause.....
<stro That pick by Briggs did it for me
by payton#34 on Sep 29, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going with a B as well.
They’re not dominant in any one category (minus sacks), but they’re not getting destroyed in one either. A lot of times you see teams that defend against the rush extremely well, but get torched through the air at the will of opposing QB. We are above average against the rush and, more surprisingly, the pass.
I like what they are doing, especially with key players out and against good QB’s (minus Wallace).
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by smudgers on Sep 29, 2009 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually, you could argue that they made Wallace look better than either Rogers or Roethlisberger.
That’s not a good trend, come to think of it……
by BearFan611 on Sep 29, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wallace
was under constant pressure. A less mobile QB would have been sacked a lot more than Wallace was.
Still I see what you mean and was thinking about that last night when I was re-watching some of the game. I wonder, just speculation, if at times when you have that many non-starters in a game if they don’t play inspired sometimes. A few #2’s that are looking for their shot to become a #1.
Just a theory, and Wallace looked improved over last year as far as decision making and accuracy.
by Fridge72 on Sep 29, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Replacements (Seattle style)?!?
Matt Hasselbeck: This doesn’t change anything Wallace! I’m still an All-Pro quarterback with a Superbowl appearance. You’ll never be anything more than a replacement player.
Seneca Wallace: Yeah. Yeah, I can live with that.
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by smudgers on Sep 29, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right, Hasselback probably would have been sacked several times, but then again,
he might have completed even more throws in the open areas of the Cover 2. I just happened to look at the box scores of the last 3 games and Wallace actually passed for more yards than either of the other 2 opponents according to the Bears website.
by BearFan611 on Sep 29, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had our share of bench players
Our only starting linebacker is Briggs.
by payton#34 on Sep 29, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If "blow up" means ridding ourselves
of three prohibitively expensive players who haven’t conributed all that much to our defense’s success (I gave them a B) anyway, then I say…well, you know.
I actually like our secondary play thus far. We’re blitzing a lot – Payne and Briggs in particular – and they (except Vasher!) have managed not to give up too many big plays. They’ve played smart, if not exactly inspiring, football. Now I would like to see them eventually take a risk a jump a short route now and then…but I do have a vivid memory of the last time that happened. It was also Nate Vasher’s last time on the field.
I’m intrigued by Roach. Clearly, he’s got very good speed, and he can hit. Has anyone seen what he looks like getting off of blocks? Where did this guy come from, anyway?
The thing I’m most concerned with is our lack of penetration from the tackles. Despite what you’re saying about Tommie, I didn’t see much this game except some sideline to sideline pursuit. For the most part, he continued to be stalemated as readily as the first two games. Granted, the effort is appreciated, but I don’t need Tommie Harris to be Chris Zorich. I need him to be Tommie Harris: getting upfield, disrupting plays in the backfield, and getting to the quarterback. It’s not all on Tommie, either. Other than Anthony Adams, I haven’t seen much from the interior.
The guys that I’ve loved watching are Afalava and Briggs. Those guys are just serious hitters, and Al’s been pretty good in coverage as well.
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by MPG on Sep 29, 2009 2:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If we can stop the run and run the football, we can take this all the way to NFC Championship game
forcing teams to give up on run and pass more will give our D line and D backs the keys to the playoffs, especially the pic offs. Getting our run game going real solid will help Cutler dominate with the play action.
The Ghost of Ron Rivera haunts the Windy City...
by Oso Monstar of Midway on Sep 29, 2009 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Cornerbacks
The only problem I have with the defense is the cornerbacks playing five to seven yards off on key passing downs. Other then that Lovie and Marineli is putting this defense in a position to make plays. Just imagine if number 54 never gotten injured in the opener.
by NiqueBears on Sep 29, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Vasher
I would give the D a solid B as well. I think we are better without Vasher and Hillenmeyer and I dont think either one does the job for us. Since Vasher is getting paid to do so much but he isnt contributing anything on the field, maybe he can get paid to provide the upkeep for the field. He can figure out a way to improve our landscaping issues because our field looks horrible!!!
by dp4 on Sep 29, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on Vasher.
The coaches realize that Vasher is a definate vulnerability in pass coverage. They like Hillenmeyer because of his experience and leadership, though. It will be interesting to see if they put HH back in there after he recovers from the rib injury and sit Williams.
by JimmyMack on Sep 29, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vasher would stumble and the chalk line machine would blow by him and end up in the stands.
It would just cause more work. Just let him trip over the wires on the sidelines he can’t do any damage there..
by Syndor on Sep 29, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one moment
We’ve had defensive success (defined here as won the game) against two teams who are 1-2. The team we lost to is 2-1.
"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur
by Maelvampyre on Sep 29, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I gave the Bears D a grade of C, by the way – with the understanding that we don’t have enough of a sample for a proper assessment yet.
"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur
by Maelvampyre on Sep 29, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roster moves.
I saw earlier that DeAngelo Smith is being cut. The move is being made to open up a spot to sign a LB.
by boondock_saint812 on Sep 29, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting,
I still don’t see them signing Brooks. Maybe they are looking for someone for special teams if they are anticipating Roache and/or Williams to be starting. HH has played some special teams for us too.
by Fridge72 on Sep 29, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McClover is coming back
We’re out of LB’s to play special teams so Darrell McClover is coming back.
by MuleTrain on Sep 29, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting,
Designated special teamer.
by Fridge72 on Sep 29, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that reminds me of something I saw during last week's game
on one of the kick/punt coverages, they showed an end zone angle from behind the Bears kicking team. The tackle was made on the left sideline and there were 2 players running at the ball carrier. One of the players was Adrian Peterson and the other a #58 who I didn’t recognize. This #58 ran past AP like he was standing still to get the ball carrier out of bounds. That was Tim Shaw. It was a pretty impressive display of speed for a LB.
by BearFan611 on Sep 29, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know
anything about Tim Shaw, looking at his stats, listed at 6’1" 236lbs and only 25 years old. I’ll bet he is a beast.
by Fridge72 on Sep 29, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they could try him
at RB, think he is good going in between the tackles?
by Fridge72 on Sep 29, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely
a shoe-in for FB if RB doesnt work out
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by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't hurt
us at this point. Not that I want to give up on Forte. The more we mix it up and show different looks in the running game the sooner we get it going again. Hope they run some more plays with AP too, he picks up the blitz better than any other back we have. IMO
by Fridge72 on Sep 29, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm...
2nd in sacks with 9 (3 teams are tied at #1 with 10, and Chicago is tied at #2)
If you are behind 3 teams, you are not 2nd. You are 4th.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 29, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
this
is why you never do math in public
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by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It depends on how you look at it.
The way wilt has it is not incorrect.
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec (wreck) comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
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by Dane Noble on Sep 29, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wrong.
It IS incorrect.
You cannot be in 2nd place if there are three teams in front of you. Similarly, if Tiger Woods shoots 10 under, three others shoot 9 under, and Phil Mickelson shoots 8 under, Michelson doesn’t finish in 3rd. He finishes in 5th.
In terms are sacks, there are three teams tied for 1st, and then the bears are tied with others for 4th.
It really isn’t difficult.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 30, 2009 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why does it matter...
couldn’t he have said “the second most”. That is mathematically and semantically accurate.
Is the point somehow diminished?
Did he miscount the number of sacks?
If you have to note such egregious errors in the future, save them for a golf blog. Maybe the minutia necessary to separate golfers is useful, but it adds nothing but drivel here!
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
by LostInSTL on Sep 30, 2009 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I notice there are a lot of ticky tacky people around here
with all the FAILS, and looking for spelling errors …
Who cares… if they feel better about themselves by doing that then so be it…
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 30, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it informed the discussion...
or had some good Freudian comic value than fine. But it adds nothing to the discussion.
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
by LostInSTL on Sep 30, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's big low's MO.
He loves to pop in and tell people how they are wrong, and rarely ever offers anything more.
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec (wreck) comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
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by Dane Noble on Sep 30, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FYI
The wifey just said she “faxerrated” something. I blame this on you! ;)
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by smudgers on Sep 30, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its pretty clear
We’re not rocket scientists here.
"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur
by Maelvampyre on Sep 30, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that's not entirely true...
I’m a rocket scientists.
Ok I’m not but I had you going there for a second.
You can't believe everything you read on the internet, that's how World War One got started.
by Ditkavsworld on Sep 30, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but did you...
Stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night???
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Sep 30, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually did.
Ok I didn’t.
I have to stop lying to you guys. I’m sorry.
You can't believe everything you read on the internet, that's how World War One got started.
by Ditkavsworld on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you mean "rocket surgeons"?.....or should that be "brain scientists"???????
by BearFan611 on Sep 30, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was alwasy a fan of the rocket surgeons.
You can't believe everything you read on the internet, that's how World War One got started.
by Ditkavsworld on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I am a scientist!!!
just not in rocketry!
However, I am no freakin’ genius either. Scientist is just a job title after all.
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
by LostInSTL on Sep 30, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of like custodian is just as job title. :)
You can't believe everything you read on the internet, that's how World War One got started.
by Ditkavsworld on Sep 30, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dude: Uh, uh, papers, um, just papers, uh, you know, uh, my papers, business papers.
Cop: And what do you do, sir?
The Dude: I’m unemployed.
by rdent4hof on Oct 1, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My grade...
I would argue that until this team learns to a) tackle people, and b) cover people, it will never again be a top 5 defense.
The tackling has been atrocious, and the secondary has only been slightly better. They have avoided the deep play (for the most part), but teams can pick apart this secondary by throwing underneath the 10 yard cushions being given to opposing receivers.
So I would grade this defense with a C, at best.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 29, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The defense has been OK considering...
the injuries. Not great and not bad. The LBs and DBs are not tackling well (except Afalava) for whatever reason. The coverage has been below average, but balanced by above average D-line play. The problem is, they have yet to dominate any team defensively. The Packers were the only good offense they’ve played and they struggle to be good. Come on, it was Seneca Freakin Wallace, not Drew Brees. And let’s face it the Steelers are not playing well and cannot run.
Say what you want about the injuries because the Seahawks had plenty of their own. The issue comes down to this:
The Tampa2 is set up to be successful by limiting the big play and taking the ball away. Until the Bears start causing fumbles and find a new “interceptor”, they will be maddeningly average. IMO, the only thing that can elevate the pay of this defense is for the offense to be able to run the ball consistently. When the O can run and rest the D, they will be sharper and find a smaller list of plays to defend.
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
by LostInSTL on Sep 30, 2009 7:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Seneca Freakin Wallace!!
Yeah, but he’s not that bad, there are a handful of teams that would love to have him on their team, he’s not a typical #2…
I agree the Bears need to start getting some turnovers, the D will take a step up once that happens
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 30, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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