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The Bears Den - 9/4/09

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....where a cancelled class equals heading up to northern MN.

In The Den

670 The Score

Laurence Holmes detailed why you should have watched last night. 

ChicagoBears.com

Detailing the #3 WR race. 

Chicago Sun-Times

Brad Biggs predicts the Bears' practice squad. 

Projecting the Bears' roster: Part II.

Projecting the Bears' roster: Part III.

Chicago Tribune

David Haugh finally agrees that Johnny Knox should make the 53-man roster. 

Here's some impressions of the first half of last night's game.

Ted Phillips responds to Yahoo's low ranking.

Israel Idonije: "My new weight feels good."

Steve Rosenbloom's running commentary for the game.

Star-divide

Daily Herald

Bob LeGere's final 53. 

A couple of Bears are helping to unveil a new field for a Chicago HS.

The Bears awarded their weekly honor to the Maine East HC.

Last night was the last chance for backups to make a statement.

ESPN Chicago

Jeff Dickerson has a mini-rant on the Soldier Field turf. 

Zackary Bowman had a grand entrance last night.

Charles Tillman probably won't play versus the Packers.

NBC5 Chicago

Devin Aromashodu gave the Bears' coaches flowers. No joke.

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That flowers thing

Has been denied by teammates on Twitter: “Devin Aromushado is my hotel roomate and trust me he did not send flowers. If he was that kinda guy I wud have known 1st!” and then later: “@FMines89 they tried to say he sent lovie flowers to make the team”

by Sam Householder on Sep 4, 2009 1:02 AM CDT reply actions  

The flowers thing didn't bother

so much as the brutal comments about our WRs. I mean… ouch.

by Loathie Smith on Sep 4, 2009 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Wow.

Seriously Eammon Brennan, feel free to take a long walk off a short pier. you irrelevant %^$&.

by Fridge72 on Sep 4, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jason Davis just got cut

per his Twitter account

"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB

by icarr0331 on Sep 4, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Dan Buenning

"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB

by icarr0331 on Sep 4, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Donovan Raiola

Linkers To Biggs quick blog hit, says bears may be keeping Lance Louis

"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB

by icarr0331 on Sep 4, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Joe Clermond nest to get axed

Per Biggs says he may return on Practice Squad

"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB

by icarr0331 on Sep 4, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

*NEXT

"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB

by icarr0331 on Sep 4, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

That sucks about Peanut

We really need him back. But I’d rather that he’d wait until he’s feeling 100 percent (or at least close to it) before he comes back. He does us no good if he comes back gimpy or tries to hard to nurse the injury and ends up hurting something else.

We do face some pretty talented passing attacks in the first two months. I think our pressure from the front four will be able to help the secondary considerably, especially against some struggling o-lines this preaseason (Pitt, Seattle, Detroit, Cincy). But if you look at the receiving corps that we’re going up with to start the year….ouch. So much of our season is going to come down to how those guys in the secondary pan out. And obviously Tillman’s a big part of that.

by Doc's Sports Predictions Guy on Sep 4, 2009 1:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Yep. Would much rather have him 100%

Than, not be ready for Jennings and Driver… who’ll toast him.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Sep 4, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha - good call

BTW, there was nothing about that Blount punch last night that was not awesome. I don’t want to start a long discussion about it in here, but that’s my take. Just hilarious. (Got a little out of control after that while trying to go into the stands.)

I want to see a Peanut vs. Blount fight with the winner taking on Michael Westbrook.

by Doc's Sports Predictions Guy on Sep 4, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

The comments about Soldier Field are absolutely true...

the field is a disgrace. It’s embarassing from it’s “Starship Enterprise landed on Soldier Field” look to a playing surface that isn’t fit for a Pop Warner game. It shows the total hypocracy of “the city that works” b.s. (and before anyone asks I am a born and raised Chicagoan) that our politicians try to pass off to people. It’s also an indictment of the McCaskeys and one of the reasons for their ranking in that poll the other day. It’s absolutely ridiculous that a city like Chicago doesn’t have a retractable dome so we could host a Super Bowl and have one of the modern artificial surfaces so the different type of events that the park district insist on having don’t endanger the athletes.

The so-called purists who say “football was meant to be played outside and on real grass” forget that Walter Payton and the ‘85 Bear teams played on the crappy Astro-turf surface. The reality is that if we blow a chance at the playoffs or lose a playoff game because of a slip on some ice or being unable to hold onto the ball because of below zero temperatures, we’ll all be screaming for somebody’s head.

Sorry for the long rant, but the only reason Chicago should be considered the “Second City” is because of population and not because we’re willing to settle for second best.

by BearFan611 on Sep 4, 2009 7:10 AM CDT reply actions  

the opposition plays on the same field

i would say a slip on the ice or a fumble is more likely to strike the unfamiliar opponent and so turns out to be an advantage. i’m not saying they couldn’t make some improvements but the day the bears play in a dome is the day i find a real football team to root for.

by genetic on Sep 4, 2009 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

So you're saying you want the field to make up for the Bears shortcomings in generating turnovers?

AND that you wish for an increased likelihood of player injuries? That’s just plain foolish. Yeah, I guess opposing team fumbles might be a result of the turf, but that’s not worth affecting someone’s career. Lastly, if playing in a dome threatens your being a fan of the Bears… then I got nothin’.

by Loathie Smith on Sep 4, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's been stated over and over

That fake turf is bad for our linemen, specifically Tommy Harris, now while i realize that he won’t be our lineman forever, sometimes the real grass is the best grass

throw some new sod down, but thats about all that needs to be done

i also think Superbowls should be played in the elements like the NFC/AFC championship games are.

it shouldn’t be the arguement of wanting the field to make up for something, but to provide the real aspect of the game. astro turf and domes… it all just makes it so fake now.

play out in the snow on a muddy field…thats how the game was meant to be played. it’s football not dancing with the stars

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Sep 4, 2009 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

An increased likelyhood in injuries?

Seriously?

Our field gets battered over the course of a season, and by November and December, it’s largely spray painted dirt between the hashes and the 20s. It’s not much different than the other natural cold weather playing surfaces out there. But, show me some relevant statistical information on how the natural playing surface is a greater threat to players health than the artificial surfaces which tend to also be unkind to cleats and ankles and knees. Until information like that can be provided, this discussion should not continue in this thread.

Some of our players also get hurt in training camp and at Lake Forest… as do other teams players on their practice fields (natural or artificial). The odds are the same across the board.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Sep 4, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Turf obviously worse

“A study by Livesay, et al. of peak torque and rotational stiffness found the highest torques were created by a grass shoe-FieldTurf interaction 2006. Lowest torques were obtained on natural grass fields. A proper combination of artificial turf shoes and synthetic grass led to intermediate torques.”

Basically: turf is worse for athletes and causes an increased rate of muscle trauma.

by Doc's Sports Predictions Guy on Sep 4, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you. That's what I figured.

The Bears field, even in “dirt” condition late in the year, is more forgiving.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Sep 4, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going to concede to Sack and Doc

for making an unfounded and reactionary post, but I’m not sold on the the lady with oversized ovaries’ initial comment.

by Loathie Smith on Sep 4, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks necessities and sack

and where did i say i had a “wish for an increased likelihood of player injuries”? you mean because it could be icy? it’s not like there’s going to be a frozen creek in the middle of the field or something.

by genetic on Sep 4, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

and by the way

if you like that indoors stuff, stick to a pussy sport like basketball.

by genetic on Sep 4, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree,

The field is a joke and has been for years.

by Fridge72 on Sep 4, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Was great to see Bowman get a pick right away last night!

Not so great to see him leave with cramps. He needs to be able to play 4 QTRs in Green Bay.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Sep 4, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Was listening to McNeil's show today

and he was talking about how the water tables near Lake Michigan have been blamed for the poor field conditions, but hiring an expert like the “Sod father” would possibly solve the issue. McNeil said that it has been an ongoing issue between the McCaskey’s and the park district about poneying up the “big money” to get the proper expert to fix the turf problems.

by big-al on Sep 4, 2009 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Eammon Brennan
But when all is said and done, it really doesn’t matter which Bears wideouts make the cut. They’re all horrible.

Wow dude, you may want to come up with some facts to prove they’re horrible. Try a little creativity as well, not some overused term.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Sep 4, 2009 12:52 PM CDT reply actions  

What was

Chicago’s ranking in the Yahoo poll? Didn’t say in the story.

by Doc's Sports Predictions Guy on Sep 4, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Lol...

What a circus.

Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec (wreck) comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.

by Dane Noble on Sep 6, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

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