How Much Hope Do You Have Going Into the 2010 Season?
The heads that were going to roll have long since rolled, and while we will continue to look at my ranking of our off season needs on Thursday we have all got a fairly good idea of where our most glaring weaknesses are. We aren't getting a ton of push upfront, although it did look slightly better than last year. Al Afalava looks great, but a cover two defense requires two good safeties to properly function leaving us short one safety barring Manning's continued development. Finally, we've got an offensive line that is at best in transformation, and at worst rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Better play calling on both sides of the ball can help, but we're still going to have the same starting personal except for perhaps three or four players. With that said, what are your hopes for the Bears going into next season if your top four positions are addressed with quality mid-round draft picks?
It wouldn't be fair for me to ask everyone to look into the future and walk out onto a limb if I didn't ask the same of myself, so here is my armchair prediction of how things are going to look next season when the dust finally settles.
We're going to try work under the usual mode of operation and build through the draft primarily, with perhaps one mid-level FA pick up, likely in the secondary after cutting Josh Bullocks. I'm betting on us also going the value route and picking up either the best G or RT on the board in the third. With the way things have shaken out the last couple years, and the way the Bears generally do things I'll throw my money on RT as despite a lot of us here at WCG hoping and praying the brass at this point have shown zero indication of putting Omiyale at RT. Next round, I expect us to draft a good, but slightly too bulky corner that throws up a bad 40 time at the combine, and try to convert him over to Safety. Next round, I won't be surprised where they go, as the Bears like to go pure value in the 5th and later, but there will likely still be a decent quality road grader land mass type guard on the board which would be the correct call, followed by a lot of practice squad fodder.
Now then, just on general luck only one of the offensive line picks are going to pan out. However, I think Garza is still going to have a quality year and Beekman will get a chance to slowly start to shine at center about four games into the year. Omiyale won't be terrible at LG, but he won't be great. However, even the slight increase in performance building off the end of last year is enough to give us more performances like the Vikings than we saw this year.
Hester is going to see quite a few targets to begin the year, but look for this to slowly decline and his ST time to increase after Knox continues to develop and Manning finds more time starting at S when the fourth rounder doesn't pan out, at least not this fast.
The team looks good, with flashes of greatness and ends the season with a 10 and 6 record which is enough for a Wild Card berth, and after that the crystal ball gets cloudy.
Anyone else have any completely out of left field predictions to throw up about next season?
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Voted for flirting.....
But I think it’s nearly impossible to guess without knowing who’s coming in as coordinators.
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
The more I think about it...
the less that I really think the coordinators matter this coming year. They could help or hurt slightly, but it’s extremely unlikely they are going to install a completely new system no matter who is selected, specially with Lovie still calling the shots for the better or for the worse.
With Bates off the market, who was the one person I thought might actually make a drastic difference as he is definitely young OC —> HC material, I just don’t see anyone else making anything but an incremental increase or decrease.
I think the players are going to have a much larger influence, like if Pisa can stay on the field, if Manning can prove himself at S, if Bowman continues to improve, etc.
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I don't like Cutler
and I don’t think he can lead them above 8-8. It would be a very big surprise if he does.
And I think you have made that point completely clear.
Repeatedly. But thanks for reiterating.
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I'm pretty sure if you said this to Sizzle...
He’d stab you to death with a insulin needle…
Just saying.
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by Jacob Hayes on Jan 13, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
LMAO.
Awesome.
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by David Taylor on Jan 13, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
I have to take issue with that.....
Because as I see it, the Bears were a hugely different team with Ron Rivera as coordinator than with BB or Lovie. And I think that the number of threads on this site dedicated to the hiring process would tend to lend to my argument. And the same players were vastly different under those coaches. Vasher, Harris and Anderson have definitely been lesser beings. Manning, Bowman, Afalava, Anderson, Harrison, Williams and Roach would likely all see a lot more improvement under a guy like Rivera than under a guy like Lovie. Playcalling, remember, is just part of the job. I think Fewell could really help the team improve, especially in the secondary.
Additionally, Lovie has little to nothing to do with the offense on this team (as evidenced by he constant insistence that “we get off the bus running.” Apparently Ron Turner didn’t get the memo.) and the offense could change pretty dramatically, depending on who is hired as coordinator. I was concerned after Weis and Bates were of the market so quickly, but I do like the Shula idea, and Zampese is another coach I find interesting, Even Martz always stands a chance of learning from his mistakes in Detroit and San Fransisco and applying them to the things he did right in St Louis, thus coming out as a reasonable OC, in the least. I’m not saying he will, but there are plenty of sportswriters making the case that he might be the best guy to turn this around quickly. Still leaves me a bit frigid, though.
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
I don't drasticallly disagree with anything you said...
But Lovie is still picking the coaches, so they are going to fit the philosophy he picks. He also make the final game day decisions of who starts and who doesn’t.
With said, coaches can make some kind of impact, but how much? How many of the games this year do you think different coaches could have helped change a L to a W? I’d be hard pressed to name one. The biggest change during the season for the better was when we started shifting the offensive line, and when we got DA on the field. Both of those were Lovie decisions.
Also, we hired one of the premiere defensive line coaches last year, and our defensive line also saw very modest improvement.
Don’t expect big changes in the defense as long as Lovie is here, and while a new person picking the plays will be fantastic, unless he installs a whole new system we’re still going to be looking at a lot of the same plays.
I don’t see the OC/DC having more than a one game effect one way or another a piece. Granted, that’d get us to 9-7 this year, but it doesn’t get us to the 11+ wins a season that we want to see.
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The biggest change during the season for the better was when we started shifting the offensive line, and when we got DA on the field. Both of those were Lovie decisions.
Don’t get me started >_<
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if everything stays as it is. Bears Offense will be better
but I can see our D going either way, if it gets better (not asking top 5, like top 15) then we can get to the playoffs via Wild Card. (my gut says D gets better because of Urlacher and addition of a real DC maybe?)
… but if it gets worse we may win 6 games.
that’s just my gut and it may be way off, a lot depends on the draft, but last years actual draft didn’t work out so hot seeing as there wasn’t that many minutes given to them (iglesias, jarron gilbert, henry melton, dj moore, and marcus freeman) besides knox and al afalava (why is payne in the doghouse?)
for our offense to be really successful we need to go and fix the OL for real, Jerry Angelo knows this, we know this, and Cutler and Forte definitely know this.
I think we need another RB late in the draft unless someone drops to us, still keep khalil bell, give him a shot behind a better OL.
I don’t even want to touch FA
If you want to crown em...
breaking news
just read on chicago sports that the bears interviewed Ken Zampese QB coach of the bengals for the OC position on a recommendation from martz!! go figure!!
I posted the links on the other 2 Coordinater threads
if anyone is interested. By links i mean the tribune article and his bio.
I was working on it...
I’m just a slow thinker. ;)
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by David Taylor on Jan 12, 2010 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
Another season flirting with .500
I say we go 6-10. It’s a shame, really. We have such a talented team, but horrible owner, GM, and head coach. And we probably won’t give guys like Moore and Gilbert a chance…again.
The only time the Mets win is in the offseason.
Unfortunately that might be pretty accurate
Until we clean house, and get rid of Jerry and Lovie, we may be flirting with .500 for a while. They’ve definately held us back, plus we’re in a pretty tough division.
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
voted for wild card
but i also said that we’d win the division this year so who really knows. i think it depends on the coordinators.
Go Ahead and Crown 'em!
Its the start of the offseason. Looking forward i will only allow myself to look forward with Navy and Orange glasses and massive amounts of Bear-Ade until lovie crushes my heart again a quarter of the way into the season. So while i may actually dream, i am going to!
WOOT SUPER BOWL BOUND BABY!!!!!
Sorry for jacking your spot, bro!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
LOL
No worries. Like I told Kev, breaking news comes before random offseason musings any day.
As they say, cool story bro. Even if I’m not sure that I like the guy.
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.500 if lucky
Let’s face it untli Lovie and Angelo are given their walking papers I don’t see much positive. As of now J.A & Lovie are still picking the players and calling the shots and we know what there expertise has produced. I’ve been a Bear fan since ’62 and am very discouraged with the organization.
Also, about the secondary situation...
I think D.J. Moore would make a quality free safety. If that actually happened, we would have a ballhawk FS and a hard-hitting rin stopper SS in Afalava.
The only time the Mets win is in the offseason.
Always important to stop the rin.
:P
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That might be a good idea
But whatever they do, the Bears need to stop playing musicle chairs and settle on a FS.
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
fighting for the wild card
I think the defense rebounds and has a lot better year than this past season., This alone will enable the Bears to be competetive in every game. Primarily because of much improved defensive line play. The offensive line is troubling. My only reason for optimism is the slow consumption of a six pack of beer.
"I am not an animal!" - Merrick
Weird.
My pessimism is usually enhanced by a 6 pack of beer.
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He said "slow consumption"...
My (all kinds of isms….) are usually enhanced by a 6 pack of readily consumed beer.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
It's precarious
…all it takes is one beer drinking pessimist to push me in that direction when it comes to a Smith-coached Bears team.
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by Maelvampyre on Jan 12, 2010 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
It's a little early...
to say. Lots of pieces to add. Still, unless some FA miracles and a draft day like no other, I expect more of the same. The OC/DC hires, IMHO, will most likely be underwhelming and with Lovie lulling us all through another lost season, i just don’t have much if any faith the Bears will move past third best in the NFC North, let alone contend for the playoffs.
When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!
I am thinking fighting for a Wild Card
The Vikings are a veteran team, sort of the like the Bears in ’06 a bit, and their o-line could fall apart and who knows about Favre. Their receivers and backs are young but both lines are kind of old (I think) and that could be bad. The biggest problem for the Bears is the Packers though, they are a young team and are going to be good for a while!
OK I just double checked
And I am pretty wrong about the Vikes o-line. The left side is kind of old (Hutch is in his 9th year and McKinnie his 8th) but the other side is super young (their C is in his 2nd yr, Loadholt is a rook and Herrera his 6th). But the Williams wall is kind of old and so are Winfield and Leber.
by GallopingGhost on Jan 12, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
Is it too late to fire Lovie?
Cowher and Gruden are still available, and couldn’t possibly do worse than Smith.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Fighting for wildcard
You know Turner is a nucklehead for not just letting Cutler rip it the way he did in Denver let the young gun roll out of the pocket and look for the open recievers also the defense shoud be better if we pull in the Buffalo coach which is an upgrade due to the fact that he runs a stout secondary scheme.
I voted "fighting"
We’ll either be fighting for a wildcard or a top 10 draft pick. You have to figure the wild card teams will come from the NFC North and East. We play the East next year so if we win some of those we could have good tie-breakers. And if we stumble we can easily rack up the losses.
I can't believe that so many people voted for "Wild Card" and "Division Champs"
We get wrecked all year, and as the fresh memories of bad play start to become hazy, our minds start to think “Hey, we’re not that bad!” Maybe this player or that one will improve, and maybe the new coordinators will get this thing humming again…"
I think that Lovie has said “We’re close” so many times that some of you are starting to believe it. That, or there are a lot of Cubs fans voting on this poll (I’m one of them). Do us a favor and keep the “Wait til next year” eternal optimism for the Bleed Cubbie Blue blog, will ya?
Most of us voted "fighting", doesn't mean we'll win that fight
If fighting mean not mathematically eliminated then we were “fighting” for a wild card til the last 4-5 weeks this year.
I Don't have anything to add to this thread but i thought it would be cool if i posted in the subject line too, that way Dane can't give me any flack like he used to for me not replying to individual threads. Sorry /rant off.
Geez buddy. Can't you get your shiat straight?
I mean, really, pull it together.
They got everything here from a diddled-eyed joe to damned if I know.
voted for flirting
mostly because i’m an optimist… but my gut says we’re more likely to be in 4th than 1st.
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And do it in a circular movement!
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Jan 13, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
I see them in contention for a Wild Card spot.
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