Bears Interview Ken Zampese
by David Taylor on Jan 12, 2010 7:19 PM CST
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Jeremy Bates is headed to Seattle and Tom Clements is staying put in Green Bay. The Bears... are moving on.
Dan Pompei is now reporting that Ken Zampese, Bengals quarterbacks coach, has spent the day interviewing with Lovie Smith for the vacant offensive coordinator position. Find the complete write-up here.
Article highlights and more after the jump...
The 42-year old is regarded as an up and comer and he also has been considered for other offensive coordinator jobs over the last couple of years.
Zampese has spent seven seasons with the Bengals. Prior to that, he worked as an assistant on the Rams staff for Mike Martz with Smith. A separate league source said Martz, figuring his chances to become Bears offensive coordinator were limited, recommended Zampese to Smith. Martz also had recommended Zampese to Lewis.
Zampese's father Ernie Zampese is a longtime NFL assistant coach and offensive coordinator who worked for the Cowboys, Chargers, Rams and Patriots.
Coaching Career
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- University of San Diego 1989 (Secondary Coach)
- Cincinnati Bengals 2003-Present (quarterbacks coach)
- University of Southern California 1990-91 (graduate assistant secondary coach)
- Northern Arizona 1992-94 (wide receivers coach) 1995 (offensive coordinator)
- Miami University 1996-97 (passing game coordinator and quarterbacks coach)
- Philadelphia Eagles 1998 (offensive assistant)
- Green Bay Packers 1999 (offensive assistant)
- St. Louis Rams 2000 (offensive assistant) 2001 (wide receivers coach) 2002 (passing game coach)
What are your thoughts on this up-and-comer?
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zampese?
dont know much about this guy or what his philosophy may be.. the Bengals did have a nice blend of run and pass so that may be a start. but that last game against the jets carson palmer looked terrible!!!!!
Palmer didn't play
well all year. The Bengals ran all year long to a fault. Partly it was because they have a conservative coach, partly because they had an effective run game, and partly because Palmer couldn’t produce at all this year.
DEJESUS!!!
that probably had more to do with palmers recovering arm
more than playcalling
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jan 12, 2010 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
How long does Palmer get to blame his injuries?
One of these days, he has to stop sucking like Brady Quinn or we can stop pretending it’s 2005.
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
Is Vinny Del Negro fired yet?
How long does Cutler get to blame his WRs, or his O-line, or his coaches, or his defense?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jan 12, 2010 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The validity of your point does not dispute the validity of mine
:/
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
Is Vinny Del Negro fired yet?
Would be a good point....except...
Cutler didn’t look like this when he had…….
An Offensive Line
An established group of wide-outs
Real Coaches…..
Meanwhile, Palmer Has a running game, a decent line, a decent coaching staff, and a pretty good defense…….
And he still looked bad!
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 13, 2010 7:01 AM CST up reply actions
That's why they killed us this year
Their O-line man-handled our front four.
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
Yeah
well… killing the Bears isn’t exactly the challenge it used to be.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
So because....
Palmer had a good game against Chicago, his obvious issues aren’t valid? Our secondary was one of the worst in the NFL, and our defensive play calling was arguably the worst in the NFL. Rex Grossman had some great games, too. In fact, Rex was crucified for having a far better season in ’06 than Palmer had in ’09. Throwing out that he happened to have a good game against what was a poor defense (poor enough for most of us to consider it a travesty of justice that Smith still has a job) is like saying a cat was a good hunter because it caught a dead mouse.
The fact still remains.
Palmer severely underperformed while enjoying a solid line (something no one here has accredited to Chicago), a very good running game (same), a solid defense (again, same), and a very good coaching staff (our offensive staff got fired, and it wasn’t enough for most of us. Meanwhile, Lewis won Coach of the Year). And let’s not forget that Palmer was throwing to Ocho Cinco, Coles and Henry (though, tragically, only for the first half of the season).
I’d say Jay definitely was at a disadvantage in comparison.
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 18, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
I like Norm Chow
he seems good with quarterbakcs
I like Meatballs
they seem to go good with spaghetti.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Jan 13, 2010 7:15 AM CST up reply actions
i like buns and breast
they taste good with a couple of beers.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jan 13, 2010 7:19 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Billick is a bigger douche than Martz. I wonder how Cutler and Billick would get along, considering Billick has been calling Cutler “Jeff George” all year long.
by boondock_saint812 on Jan 12, 2010 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
When did he call him Jeff George?
If he did then yeah i geuss that is a no go. He used to be a master at Offense and i don’t remember him being as much of a divisive force as Martz was.
Crap. Well it was an idea.
I’m running out of ideas. I’m not sure about zampese. I like carson but he only really had that one stellar year.
I agree completely
He made a complete * of himself the last game he called.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Billick is no master of offense
Hhe was the OC for one of the best offenses in NFl history, the 1998 Vikings. They of course had great players like Cris Carter, Randy Moss, Robert Smith and Randall Cunningham.
In his almost decade as the HC in Baltimore, his offenses mostly sucked.
During at least two broadcats that I can think, plus on NFL Network several times.
by boondock_saint812 on Jan 12, 2010 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
is it really that unfair?
exceptionally talented… hasn’t won anything and now bounced around a couple teams.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
it is.
Jeff George was a pocket passer that had a history of injuries and bitching at coaches on the sidelines(which got him suspended and traded by June Jones). he was also pretty much a bust when the Colts gave up on him, whereas Cutler was coming off a probowl season and was (still is) considered an up and coming star at QB.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jan 13, 2010 7:51 AM CST up reply actions
Meh
I just felt it was commentary meant to entertain and get attention by being outlandish. Nothing malicious.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Well
Since ESPN and everyone else compares Jeff George to Cutler. I guess thats correct. since ESPN guys like TRENT DILFER!!! Have no idea what they are talking about.
The only thing more annoying than
over the top commentary for entertainment?
People looking for that commentary as a reason to get upset.
Seriously, Jay’s a big boy. He can handle mean old Brian saying things about him.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
You think our O-line was bad...
when Jeff George was in Indy, their O-line was twice as bad. That dude used to get his ass kicked every other play. Cutler is no Jeff George, he has way more talent.
Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 13, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
He does a good job
On the Coors Light commercials :-)
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Jan 13, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
don't know much about him
but I don’t have any issues based on what I’ve seen out of Cincy.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
My only question is...
He hasn’t exactly made Carson Palmer look fantastic the last few years.
I wonder how much of that is Palmer still suffering after his brutal injury, and how much of that is Zampese.
Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com
you tracking Lane Kiffin to USC?
Maybe we can pull Monte before he goes with his son.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jan 12, 2010 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
...
That sounds like an absolutely terrible idea for everyone involved.
Lane Kiffin, who has looked good but committed a ton of violations is going to go to a school already under investigation, as well as burning a bridge in the process?
Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com
Not so much...
They need someone squeaky clean if they are going to go on probation, Kiffin definitely isn’t that. I’m not even a big college football fan, but Kiffin committed more violations in his first year of coaching than any coach I’ve ever heard of.
Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com
Jon Kitna
Apparently had success under Zampese. I’m beginning to think that if the Bears bring Martz or Zampese they’re going to trade Cutler for Kitna.
by boondock_saint812 on Jan 12, 2010 7:38 PM CST reply actions
Never heard of this guy.
But if we can get Fewell and a good OC, we might have a shot at .500.
The only time the Mets win is in the offseason.
Ha ha ha
But if we can get Fewell and a good OC, we might have a shot at .500.
Quote of the day.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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We'd be lucky to get Fewell at this point.
Management better be ready to battle the Giants for this guy in the upcoming week.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jan 12, 2010 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
I will be extremely pissed.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jan 12, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
Add me to the list
If the Bears lose out on Fewell they’re going into next season with one hand tied behind their back. He’s the goods.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Ok i got your new coach
I will coach the offense for chicago but i want 3 mil and i wanna call my own plays…LOL
I've got a new guy should be in the OC mix...
current St. Louis Rams asst. HC/QB coach….Dick Curl.
by boondock_saint812 on Jan 12, 2010 8:38 PM CST reply actions
I really hope you're kidding....
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 13, 2010 7:06 AM CST up reply actions
Of course I'm kidding
But that would some funny sh*t to hear the game announcers say Dick Curl throughout a game.
by boondock_saint812 on Jan 13, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions
HA
nice….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 13, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
that's funny
Dick Curl has them getting good penetration.
Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 13, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
lets keep this goin
Dick Curl sure knows how to score.
Dick Curl loves goin deep.
Dick Curl is a stud.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jan 13, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
lmao
Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 13, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
this is what I live for
Dick Curl sure knows how to open up holes.
Dick Curl know where ball should land.
Everybody on this offense needs Dick Curl.
Nobody rec’d the bible or the declaration of independence. Those turned out swell.
-Ifuwanna
by KtownBear on Jan 13, 2010 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
just for that i updated my sig
Dick Curl coached the Dragons by the way.
Every picture I see of Gaines Adams, it looks like he blowing angry kisses.
-The last thing Ktown said to close out the decade.
by ifuwannacrownem on Jan 13, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
I have to give it a shot...
Dick Curl really has the respect of the guys in the locker room?
Associate Writer - WindyCityGridiron.com
How 'bout...
Dick Curl enjoys a good steak and likes to play the banjo. FTW?!?
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Jan 13, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
Dick enjoys curling up next to a fire with a good book?
by boondock_saint812 on Jan 13, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
Because ownership sux and the fan base will turn on you at the first sign of 9-7.
As much as I hate to admit it, this fan base is in contention with Philly for the toughest in football. We love our team and hate or coaches. The fan base will shred a coach or a QB within seconds.
As much as I hate to admit it, the fan base is as much a reason that good coaches and good QBs don’t consider Chicago as the ownership is.
Just sayin……..
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 13, 2010 7:09 AM CST up reply actions
Not to say it's
occasionally not out of line,but I am getting sick of the “What have you done for me lately?” attitude that seems to plague Chicago fans,well sports fans in general.
Despite what many people think,outside of Belicheck,not every coach can go 10-6 throughout their tenure. So yes, I agree with you my friend.
You're being very Un-Dude right now.
by IslandBoodler87 on Jan 13, 2010 8:01 AM CST up reply actions
The reason "we" are being tough on our teams, is that ownership throughout Chicago hasn't been...
The people who have owned the franchises in Chicago have been happy with the status quo and because of that, outside of the 6 Bulls championships, the 2nd or 3rd biggest market in the country (depending on the sport) has long been the butt of jokes regarding our lack of success.
The Cubs are going on their second century without a title, the White Sox have one in the last 100 years or so, the Blackhawks are closing in on 50 years since their last Stanley Cup, and the Bears have exactly 2 in the last 60+. Even the Bulls let things completely fall apart after MJ left and don’t seem to be anywhere close to getting back into contention. At least the Blackhawks are on the right path, but that was only since the old owner died and his son brought a no nonsense executive in (John McDonough) who won’t settle for mediocrity.
The thing I do get aggravated with are the stupid fans who jump either on or off a bandwagon without any real knowledge or thought, but after spending the better part of my life as a Cubs/Bears/Blackhawk fan, I want to see the fans put pressure on the players, coaches, and especially ownership to give us what we deserve.
As far as players not wanting to come here, I couldn’t disagree more. Most of them and their agents know that if you come to Chicago and help your team become a contender, you are a “god” in this town for life. Just look at the ‘85 Bears, they all are still revered here as if it were yesterday and that was A QUARTER OF A CENTURY ago! The great Bulls teams can still get a free meal anywhere in this town, the Blackhawks of the ’60s are worshipped, Hell, even the ’69 and ’84 Cubs, who didn’t win anything, are considered to be icons.
Again, if ownership were as passionate about winning and being the best as “we” are, this conversation wouldn’t be happening.
God for life....
And the converse argument for that is “Good Rex, Bad Rex”. If you don’t perform to the level expected very quickly, the Chicago fan base will chew you up and spit you out. I’ve lived in five major sports markets (Detroit, Dallas, Phoenix, New York, and Chicago) and Chicago is by far and away the most vicious fan base I have ever seen. Not to say that some of it isn’t deserved. But it seems like the fans and media in the Chicago area are almost as anxious to tear apart their organizations as they are to cheer them. I was born and raised in the area, and I was thrilled to get a chance to come back. But I will never get over how fickle the Chicago fan base is……..
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 15, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
I am OK with this
Sounds like he is respected around the league, hasn’t gotten his chance yet but shows promise. He’s done well w/ Palmer so I would say it’s worth taking a chance on him.
by Sam Householder on Jan 12, 2010 8:57 PM CST reply actions
OK... just analyzing this in terms of QB production
Cincinnati Bengals 2003-Present (quarterbacks coach)
In 2003, Jon Kitna had the best season of his entire career with 26 TDs (career high), and 15 INTs (career low for a full season). When Martz had Kitna in Detroit, he threw for over 4,000 yards in back-to-back seasons, but threw more INTs than TDs.
From 2004-Present, Carson Palmer has been one of the best passers in the NFL, and was voted to the Pro Bowl twice (’05 & ’06). He threw 32 TDs and only 12 INTs in 2005, with a QB rating of 101.1.
St. Louis Rams 2000 (offensive assistant) 2001 (wide receivers coach) 2002 (passing game coach)
I don’t think I really need to highlight the accomplishments of Mike Martz and “The Greatest Show on Turf.” It speaks for itself. In 2002, Marc Bulger took over for the injured Kurt Warner in mid season (his first playing opportunity in the NFL), and went 6-1 with 14 TDs to 6 INTs and a 101.5 QB rating. The Rams started off 0-5 that year, and finished 7-9 because of Bulger’s performance.
Green Bay Packers 1999 (offensive assistant)
1999 was a lame duck transition year for the Packers, as Holmgren left for Seattle and Ray Rhodes became the Head Coach for one short season, before being replaced by Mike Sherman. Rhodes brought Zampese with him from Philadelphia to Green Bay. The Pack went 8-8, but the offense still finished # 10, after being #6 overall the previous year. Favre had 22 TDs to 23 INTs.
Philadelphia Eagles 1998 (offensive assistant)
This was an ugly 3-13 season, that got Ray Rhodes fired, and landed Andy Reid in his current spot as HC of the Eagles. The offense ranked 30th with Bobby Hoying, Koy Detmer, and Rodney Peete all starting at QB. Reid should thank Rhodes for getting him a high enough pick to draft Donovan McNabb.
Miami University 1996-97 (passing game coordinator and quarterbacks coach)
I couldn’t tell you a darn thing about Miami football that season, but Miami is known for it’s “Cradle of Coaches.” Paul Brown, Woody Hayes, Ara Parseghian, Weeb Ewbank, Bo Schembechler, Jim Tressel, Sid Gillman, Ron Zook, John Harbaugh, and Sean Payton have all coached there.
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"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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From 2004-Present, Carson Palmer has been one of the best passers in the NFL
disagree.
How good do you have to be to be considered “one of the best”? I’d say somewhere in the top 10 minimum, since there’s 32 teams. But over the past 3 years, Palmer has been around the middle of the pack in terms of passer rating.
Due to injury? Maybe. But it’s hard to give credit to Zampese for developing Palmer when he was great almost from the start and has become mediocre.
DEJESUS!!!
Fine... disagree.
But… try QBing your team to a winning record when you’re averaging a mere 3.6 and 3.7 ypc like the Bengals did in ’07 and ’08. This year they found a running game again and swept their division.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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You are aware that Forte
is avg 3.8 yards a carry for the last 2 seasons….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 13, 2010 6:59 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
My thoughts exactly.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Jan 13, 2010 7:17 AM CST up reply actions
But this year
they swept their division because of their running game and defense, not because of their qb play. The games they lost were because when they desperately needed a play from their qb they couldn’t ever get it (except when they playedthe Bears).
I think you need to look at qb play in isolation when evaluated a qb. Thinking W-L equated to qb play is why we kept treading water with Orton and Grossman for so long.
DEJESUS!!!
Great
because Carson Palmer has really progressed since coming to the NFL (sarcasm). Carson Palmer has gotten worse almost every year since he came into the NFL. He had a nice second year bump, but then seems to get worse every year.
Some of it (or all of it) could be due to injury, but I don’t like the idea of handing over the offense to a guy whose claim to fame is that it might not have been all his fault that Palmer hasn’t progressed AT ALL under his tuteledge.
The only reason this guy is up for consideration is that :
1. Nobody else wants him
—that means he’s be cheap
—that means he’d take a lame duck job
2. Lovie has worked with him before
How about we bring in someone who has done a great job as an OC or a position coach before we bring in someone who has never been an Offensive Coordinator on any level and biggest accomplishment is NOT developing Carson Palmer.
DEJESUS!!!
Well
How about we bring in someone who has done a great job as an OC or a position coach before we bring in someone who has never been an Offensive Coordinator on any level and biggest accomplishment is NOT developing Carson Palmer.
None of them would want to come. As for Carson, at least his wife is hot.
John Ramsdell: QB Coach San Diego
Chargers team bio
And BTW, it really pisses me off seeing Ron Rivera, Don Johnson, and Steven Wilks on that coaching staff.
John Ramsdell’s resume reflects excellence in developing young QBs. In 2006, his first year working with Philip Rivers, he had a Pro Bowl season, passing for more than 3,500 yards and 23 touchdowns as the Chargers went 14-2 and won the AFC West.
Ramsdell had similar success in St. Louis with Kurt Warner, a two-time NFL MVP and three-time Pro Bowler who took the Rams to two Super Bowls, including a win over Tennessee in Super Bowl XXXIV. Warner’s successor, Marc Bulger, also benefited from working with Ramsdell as he passed for a then career-high 3,964 yards and 21 touchdowns in 2004.
Ramsdell spent a total of 11 seasons with the Rams and was the only position coach to work with them during each of their first 11 seasons in St. Louis. As quarterbacks coach, he saw the Rams lead the league in passing for three straight years (1999-2001) and they never ranked any lower than fifth in passing offense.
Ramsdell’s resume includes 19 seasons as a coach on the collegiate level, including 12 at the University of Oregon. The Ducks played in four bowl games, including the 1995 Rose Bowl, during his stint.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Wow,
Not only do I keep realizing how bad letting Rivera walk hurt us, but man Wilks and Johnson were underrated. Harris had his first two Pro-Bowl years under Johnson and Wilks coached a secondary that had a ton of INTs, INTs that have been dropping since his departure.
by Sam Householder on Jan 13, 2010 12:26 AM CST up reply actions
Nice one SackMan
I didn’t even think about him but he has done a good job with Rivers. I wonder if the beef between Rivers and Cutler would efect that?
he would make too much sense...
just like I said about Mike Shula.
I will trade you three pretzel's, two bologna sanwiches, and one Lovie Smith for your pudding.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 13, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
So glad we kept Lovie
and sacrificed Turner.
This is working SO WELL!! Sigh.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Ken Zampese deserves a chance
His father, Ernie Zampese,worked under Don Coryell who led that awesome Chargers aerial assault in the 70s and led the Cowboys to their Super Bowl wins in the 90s. That combined with Mike Martz’s offense holds real potential.
Why are all the comments "capped" out?
Don’t know much about him, but he has the pedigree to succeed as an OC. If he can actually get the group to succeed is an entirely different story.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Did that fix it?
The power play is still f**king clown shoes
Everybody...HIT SOMEBODY! ~ the Chicago Rush are back in April 2010
Here at WCG, we close tags like Lovie Smith closes games.
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
Is Vinny Del Negro fired yet?
If we get this guy, I hope he will be nothing like Ron Turner.
As long as his coaching and play calling is different from Ron Turner’s, it will should be a positive step in the right direction imo. I will say that Lester’s post about Mike Shula was great. I would have really liked to see him come in an interview for the position, although I knew it wouldn’t happen only because it makes sense.
Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 12, 2010 10:19 PM CST reply actions
Wanted:
A coach to coordinate an offense for 1 year under hotseated/lame-duck head coach with sub-average defense and medicore talent outside of QB.
Gee… why is no one lining up to take this job??
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
You hit it right on the nose.
It almost turns into a boom or bust scenario. You are assuring yourself of not getting the strongest candidate,. The only one crazy enough to take the job is someone who: A) doesn’t care about the risk, or B) is desperate. So we’ll en up having to go with some 25 year old who’s only been the assistant-of-the-assistant OC at a DII school, who may be a genius, but is more likely going to be scared s**tless the first time he gets the cold icy stare of a 300lb lineman. Or we’ll get a burned out has-been desperately seeking a way to get back into the NFL and prove the game hasn’t passed him by despite having burned too many bridges in the past.
We are so BOLD tonight!!!
BOLD IN OUR PREDICTIONS – BOLD IN OUR TYPEFACE!
BOLD BOLD BOOOOOOLLLLLDDD!!!!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
To me this says something about Lovie and the organiztion
Frankly, I want the HC to be someone that other coaches want to work under. I’d like a coach whose “boys” are more impressive than Bob Babich.
If the NFL represented a bar fight, who does Lovie have to back him up when he hits on some other dudes lady?
Question:
Why get Martz’s QB coach when we can just get Martz instead?
Please. Jay Cutler isn’t that fragile. Go get Martz, or go get someone from a different system. It really is that simple.
by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Jan 13, 2010 2:18 AM CST reply actions
Martz is a very talented offensive coach.
And he’s very unemployed in the NFL.
Those two facts contradict each other. Usually there’s a reason for that.
Whats with all the bolding!!!!!!
AHHHH
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
Cutler is set to interview Zampese today
Coach Lovie Smith interviewed Cincinnati quarterbacks coach Ken Zampese for the offensive coordinator position on Tuesday and he’s expected to meet with Cutler today.
If Cutler approves then it sounds like he is the hire…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
aikman
stated that he “talked” to norv turner before he was hired by jimmy johnson for the OC for the cowboys….he liked what he heard and when johnson asked if he should pick him up aikman gave the “OK”….That story in the above article….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 13, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
I'd read that as a continuation interview from yesterday
Just this time Cutler will be present. I don’t think it would be just Cutler talking to him, not the entire time anyway.
Holy cow!
Word out of Packerland is that general manager Ted Thompson was willing to let Clements go, but coach Mike McCarthy hit the roof at the very idea and put the kibosh on it.
Damn. We all wish McCarthy wasn’t sensible like his boss.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
You call that BOLD?
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Jan 13, 2010 8:06 AM CST up reply actions
Fan-F'n-Tastic!!!
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Jan 13, 2010 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
JIMMY!!! = Bold
Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 13, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
You know at first I was OK
with this but then I thought was with Lovie fascination with martz offense….
Why a martz type offense why not go to one of the shanahan guys that run the offense that Cutler was successful in and is comfortable with……
Guess that makes to much sense….
Course zampese has been under bratkowski the last few years and wonder if he mixed and match those 2 offenses….But then bengal fans want bratkowski gone now….some of them think the zampese should be OC but who knows……Guess after he talks to Cutler today and he gives the ok eh….dunno….
I am surprisingly meh on this…
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
I'm not excited by it either
mostly because i don’t see any drastic improvement regardless of who we land to coordinate either side.
unless we land some super-talented pieces in the draft…. oh…. wait.
Blah. Blah something about coaching making the drastic difference in average talent.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Agreed
It doesn’t matter who’s coaching if the Bears can’t land a couple of productive starters in free-agency and the draft (FS, RT, G, and reliable backup RB).
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Add
DT and DE IMO as well….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 13, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
I think we're good at DT
and DE should be better with another year of Rod’s mentoring (I’m hoping anyways).
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
finally filling the FS void would be awesome
and getting another running back (hopefully one who’s prime talent is offense not STs) would be sweet.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Sure
remember rod was the biggest free agent signing for the Bears last season cause the D line was going to get like 50 sacks….
But there have been some times when coaching changes have turned it around (capers this year for one)…and I do think that there is talent on the offense but the o line is brutal especially on the right side….
Well heres hoping that he is a better play caller than turner at least….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 13, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
pretty huge difference, imho
between our defense and caper’s effect.
the packers have spent picks & time on their defense and finally found a scheme to fit.
we’re married to a scheme and players who don’t seem to get a long at all.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Sadly thats true....
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 13, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
I think our draft needs can be met if...
1. Focus on our needs and not best player available at positions we don’t need
2. Don’t draft projects
3. Actually use the drafted players and not have them ride pine until the end of the season(Iglesis, Melton, Gilbert etc.)
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Jan 13, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
that does piss me off about Lovie,
it takes him way too long to play any of our rooks. Last season he did a WR, but that is only because he had to..no other choice.
Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 13, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Do you trust Angelo
to do any of those things?
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 13, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
I'll put the blame for #1 & #2 on JA
But #3 has to fall on the coaching staff.
And to answer your question directly…no not really.
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Jan 13, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Nope..
I cant stand Angelo, but i do have to give him credit for his 3rd round on in drafts. If only he could do that with his 1st and 2nd, oh wait…we have no 1st or 2nd. UGHH!!!
Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 13, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Everything is speculation until next season though.
They could suck and be worse than they are this year, or they just might make a run for the division. I picked them to go 12-4 this past season, boy was i wrong. Very very few people said that they would struggle to even be .500 and that is exactly what happend. I cant stand the way the organization is run at all just like many of you, but maybe, just maybe they end up better than any of us think.
Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 13, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
and they do
and we’re stuck with lovie for another couple years because you can’t fire a coach after he gets 12 wins.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
catch 22 huh, cant win for losing. lol
Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 13, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
reminds me of 2001
when most thought there was no jauron could win and would be fired at the end of 01 only to win 13 games….That set the Bears back 2 years…..
with the Bears luck it probably happens again….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 13, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
that was the luckiest season i ever remember..
Mike Brown was a beast that year.
Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 13, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
Ya
that was nice…..
I remember watching the san fran game and turning it off in the third….friend called me up and started talking about the game and how The Bears won and I was like ya right….put it on ESPNews right away to see the highlights…..
Then the cle game happened and I stuck with it longer but turned it off with like 2 mins left in the game thinking there was no way in the world they could win that….like 15 mins after I turned it I went online to read the trib articles on the game seeing what the team would say about the game….and the front page of the sports section was “BEARS WIN IN MIRACLE GAME!”…..
I kicked myself after that and vowed to never turn off a game again unless its a blow out….like the games this year….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 13, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
I never turn off a game.
Wow, there were some tough ones to sit through this year. Almost like water boarding i imagine.
Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 13, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
even hanie confused:
Just got back from Mexico with the wifey and the roomies, C steltz and lindsay loo…was a lil cooler than normal but lots of fun
Now sittin in Mississippi, still wondering who our OC will be in Chi? Figured we’d have it figured out by time I got back from Mexico…hmm?
@calebhanie12
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Maybe he thought
bates would be signed by now lol…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 13, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Here's a name...
Bill Callahan. Currently the asst. HC/Offensive line coach with the Jets. He has play calling experience.
by boondock_saint812 on Jan 13, 2010 11:58 AM CST reply actions
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