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While I've done my fair share of them, I'm not the biggest fan of polls.  Sometimes they just seem to stifle conversation, and the results are usually predictable anyhow.  This one should be interesting though.

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Could you do a better job than any of the following people? Ted Phillips; Jerry Angelo; Lovie Smith.
Yes
408 votes
No
177 votes

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I said yes

Because I feel that I can work within my limitations, and acknowledge what I can’t do, and then ask for help.

I’m not certain they can.

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves

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by Kev H on Jan 19, 2010 5:44 PM CST reply actions  

I second that emotion!

I’m a big fan of his, and love his potential as a future NFL coach.

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Jan 19, 2010 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I was hoping

We’d at least try to contact him for the OC position. He just signed a 3 year extension w/ Stanford though, if I’m not mistaken.

Roll Tide... National Champs!!!

by Acreman20 on Jan 19, 2010 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Who cares?

You never know when a college coach will jump to the NFL. His brother is already successful as HC, I’d think he may come if given a decent contract. Cowher, Gruden, Harbaugh should be on the Bears list if Lovie fails again this season.

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Jan 19, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

100% Agree

Roll Tide... National Champs!!!

by Acreman20 on Jan 19, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I love that list of candidates.

I will trade you three pretzel's, two bologna sandwiches, and one Lovie Smith for your pudding.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 20, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

That is a great reason to say yes.

I feel the exact same way as Kev H. Humble yourself a little Lovie, you’re not doin to good right now with your blinders on.

I will trade you three pretzel's, two bologna sandwiches, and one Lovie Smith for your pudding.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 20, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Because the man

always tries to keep me down.

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves

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by Kev H on Jan 19, 2010 5:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Also

I’m at least as good at public speaking as any of those three.

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves

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by Kev H on Jan 19, 2010 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha

I liked your post about acknowledging what you can and cant’ do and asking for help. Something our FO obviously does not know how to do. Regarding the public speaking, I can’t disagree w/ that at all. Check out Ted Phillips wiki and read the last sentence. It explains everything that’s wrong w/ this franchise right now.

Roll Tide... National Champs!!!

by Acreman20 on Jan 19, 2010 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Ding, ding, ding!

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Jan 19, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm with you.

Except for the Madden franchise and the fantasy football team. I was 3rd in our league in FF. LOL.

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

by Ashley Czuba on Jan 19, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Ditto for me

You wrote exactly what I thought when voting just a second ago. Enjoy your greenness.

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Jan 19, 2010 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd

that’s the best no answere i’ve heard.

I will trade you three pretzel's, two bologna sandwiches, and one Lovie Smith for your pudding.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 20, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

ridiculous however voted yes, we have no idea what is happening behind scene! we are just crazy fans/writers.

by swinny on Jan 19, 2010 6:12 PM CST reply actions  

meant whoever voted yes!

by swinny on Jan 19, 2010 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

neither do they

there is no wizard behind any curtain

by No It All on Jan 19, 2010 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I said yes

Only because I would have the balls to do what is necessary. I don’t know what happens behind closed doors or the financial aspect of running a team, but I know when to call b.s and when someone isn’t doing there job, especially after having been given so much time to improve their job performance

by frenchbears113 on Jan 19, 2010 6:15 PM CST reply actions  

couldn't agree with you more.

feelings shouldn’t get in the way when it comes to business matters. Do your job or we will get someone to do it.

I will trade you three pretzel's, two bologna sandwiches, and one Lovie Smith for your pudding.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 20, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I honestly think the real question here is..

Could you do a better job than Virginia McCaskey/ the rest of the McCaskeys at owning and running a $1,000,000,000 business?

Roll Tide... National Champs!!!

by Acreman20 on Jan 19, 2010 6:23 PM CST reply actions  

Let me see hear..

run the beloved Chicago Bears + $1,000,000,000 = Hell freekin yeah!!! A good time would be had by all. When do i start?

I will trade you three pretzel's, two bologna sandwiches, and one Lovie Smith for your pudding.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 20, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Question...

How do I get into that sort of profession? I would do so much better than these buffoons.

@Acreman20: A smart person could do a better job. One who knows that in order to make money, you gotta invest in your product.

by MAY on Jan 19, 2010 6:31 PM CST reply actions  

you mean,

a smart person that could figure out how to use the reply button?

And I don’t think the Bears are having money trouble.

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by David Taylor on Jan 19, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

how could you do a worse job than angelo?

seriously. pick guys at random using mel kiper’s draft board. the results would be better.

by Hatchetm on Jan 19, 2010 7:36 PM CST reply actions  

My grandmother could do a much, much better job than Ted Phillips

And she doesn’t even know football. But she would be able to bring people in who do know football and have a successfull track record.

And if they did fail, she’d let ’em go within a reasonable amount of time, and find someone who could get the job done!

"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon

by JimmyMack on Jan 19, 2010 7:48 PM CST reply actions  

apes and shakespeare

They say that if you fill a room full of chimpanzees and give them computers with word processing software and enough time, they will compose literary works to rival Shakespeare. Ever the optimist, I think that if you gave Bigfoot Phillips, J Angelo and Snuffy Smith enough time and darts to throw at a draft board, they would make us all proud.
The thing is, none of us is immortal and we don’t have time to wait for the current Bears administration to do a better job than they have.
I voted no, by the way. I don’t think any single person can, but you have to be able to put a staff together that can help you achieve good results more often than not. The really good franchises in recent history are examples of that.

"I am not an animal!" - Merrick

by Maelvampyre on Jan 19, 2010 7:49 PM CST reply actions  

Lovie, Angelo, and Phillips are all idiots.

But still, I’m quite sure they know much more about football and buisness management and all that than any of us. Not trying to insult anyone, but that’s what they do for a living. I don’t approve of the job they are doing, but I voted no.

The only time the Mets win is in the offseason.

by GouldisGold on Jan 19, 2010 7:56 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I could keep a better, more open relationship with fans and media

Than any of them do but I am not confident in my ability to perform their job. it’s easy as a fan to sit there and say “oh well I would have done that totally differently” but when it comes to it, could you? I don’t know all the details but I am sure every move is pretty well calculated. Could I draft better? Maybe in the first round but probably not any better in the later rounds, do I know that? No I don’t and I am not sure I would do better.

But yeah, as Acreman said, I am no professional and there is no way I could do their job as well as them.

Now Ron Turner on the other hand…as my Dad said “My ficas tree could call better plays than Turner.”

by Sam Householder on Jan 19, 2010 8:03 PM CST reply actions  

What a......

Waste of space for this idiotic poll. How about talking about how some organizations such as Miami (Nolan) and Buffalo (Gailey) wasting little time in hiring coaches and once again, Lovie, Angelo and Phillips are asleep at the wheel.
Boy, how I would love to see our fans grow some and boycott some games at home next year and embarass those Mckaskeys! WAKE UP! Bears fans, we will not field a consistently competitive team until LOVIE and ANGELO are long gone!

by BearsLV on Jan 19, 2010 8:59 PM CST reply actions  

I somewhat agree with your post (though not necessarily the confrontational tone)

but I don’t think anyone’s being a crazy fan if they voted yes…because trading Thomas Jones, Chris Harris, and abandoning Ron Rivera and Wade Wilson went against everything that defines common sense.

The average fan on the street probably would’ve never made the above decisions…and that’s the infuriating thing about this Bears front office…so boycott’s maybe necessary.

by MetalGearPeaceWalker on Jan 19, 2010 9:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm...
We will not field a consistently competitive team

Whether we boycott or not. I don’t know about you but I live nowhere near Chicago so when the team I’ve loved for years comes within a decent driving distance of where I live, I tend to want to see them play, whether they’re competitive or not.

Roll Tide... National Champs!!!

by Acreman20 on Jan 19, 2010 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Just making a statement.....

Acreman20, I have been watching/going to Bears games since the late 70’s, Being a former Chicagoan but now living in Vegas, thank god for Directv. I went to SF this year…ugly loss…. but would jump on any chance out west when the Bears our scheduled here. But come on…. how do us hardcore fans, especially those fortunate enough to have season tickets at Soldier Field make a statement to this organization that we are fed up with mediocre coaching. Would love to see 20 to 30,000 empty seats on just one home game to send a message. I know it’s not realistic, such as this idiotic poll, I’m just dam frustrated at this coach searching process… GO BEARS!

by BearsLV on Jan 19, 2010 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I understand what you're saying

And the fact that it’s unrealistic. You’re not the only one frustrated w/ the coach search I promise you that. I was at the ATL game, though we lost, and there’s not too many things that compare to watching your beloved team play live in front of your eyes.

Roll Tide... National Champs!!!

by Acreman20 on Jan 19, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Seems like such a wasted year

with a Pro Bowl QB and an OC that never played to his strength’s. That’s where a true leader of a head coach would of stepped up and changed things up. Lovie doesn’t have it and we are stuck with him for most likely two more seasons. Just hoping he surrounds himself with coordinators who are competent, inovative in thier playcalling and think out of the box. I thought they would of jumped on Martz. Ther must be so much more dirt to that theory…. Marinelli axed him in Detroit… Hmm. All it takes is one great assistant at a coordinator position to turn things around and make Lovie look like the second coming… Well, time will tell, I sure can’t wait. Good nite ladies and gentlemen!

by BearsLV on Jan 19, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure

but waiting it out until the most successful coaches become available makes perfect sense. The Colts, Saints, and Vikes all have coaches the Bears should be interested in. At this point, I’m not interested in any re-tread coaches. Martz and others aren’t going anywhere.

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Jan 19, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree about good coaches being out there but can't see the Vikings letting us interview any of theirs

Saints, possibly, but they may still be mad at us for beating them the last few years. Indy would probably let us interview any coaches below coordinator.

by SaintCee on Jan 19, 2010 11:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Most likely yes

The Vikes are unlikely to allow any coaches to talk with the Bears, but if they’re not under contract it makes them available without permission.

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Jan 20, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I voted yes.

I could do better than Ted Phillips. I’m a business owner, have my degree in finance, have a passion for the sport, and could whip this billion dollar business into a multi-billion dollar winning cash cow.

Where do I submit my resume again?

by ChiLobo#23 on Jan 19, 2010 10:04 PM CST reply actions  

i would have nothing to bitch about.

Haha. I’m sure a lot of others feel the same way! :P

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

by Ashley Czuba on Jan 19, 2010 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I couldn't do it

I like to watch football but running the team is WAY beyond me.

The power play is still f**king clown shoes

Everybody...HIT SOMEBODY! ~ the Chicago Rush are back in April 2010

by HappyHuman on Jan 19, 2010 10:21 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I think this is a trick question.

I can’t answer because I’m not exactly sure what Ted Phillips does.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Jan 19, 2010 10:35 PM CST reply actions  

lmao...

Im thinking, oh i dont know…golf.

I will trade you three pretzel's, two bologna sandwiches, and one Lovie Smith for your pudding.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 19, 2010 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm thinking I can do anything vague

and undefined better than anyone else. I am a government employee.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Jan 19, 2010 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I can do that job then.

Any room for someone so bad they should have a handicap past maximum?

by Steven Schweickert on Jan 20, 2010 7:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't have the time to answere this right now,

but it was very entertaining to read everyone’s response.

I will trade you three pretzel's, two bologna sandwiches, and one Lovie Smith for your pudding.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 19, 2010 10:38 PM CST reply actions  

I voted no

Because well ive never experienced any job or have any job experience in running a business or franchise, and second if i fail just like the 3 i wouldnt want to be hated by hundreds of thousands if not millions of fans

by BEARSFAN19 on Jan 19, 2010 10:42 PM CST reply actions  

I voted yes because..

who knows, I’ve never been given the chance, and why would I be a downer about my own possible abilities?

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal Graves

I want and/or need followers. http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Jan 19, 2010 11:13 PM CST reply actions  

I voted yes because

executives move from industry to industry all the time. Core competencies in managing a business are basically the same. I feel that I could document how I’ve been more successful in running my business and doing my job than they have been at theirs, in fact, if I had the number of failures that they’ve shown the last 3 years in a row and if my area of responsibility was as much in disarray as theirs seems to be, I would have been fired already. Given those circumstances and a reasonable learning curve regarding the nuances of that business, yes, I believe I could do a better job.

by BearFan611 on Jan 20, 2010 12:28 AM CST reply actions  

yeah, hell if i had their track record and

owned my own business, i would’ve fired myself by now.

I will trade you three pretzel's, two bologna sandwiches, and one Lovie Smith for your pudding.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 20, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

No but possibly

Better than Phillips? I would have to see the job description.

First thing I would do is what I have heard from Bill Gates, and I think he does alright for himself. Surround yourself with people smarter than yourself. I would hire the best football mind available and immediately.

As for better than Lovie and Angelo, most likely not, I have never been a part of a professional team nor coached at anywhere near their level. Although the drafting by throwing darts as suggested above, might be a start.

by TheMan1 on Jan 20, 2010 7:49 AM CST reply actions  

I guess it's nice...

to feel superior to others by admitting your hypothetical shortcomings. However, the poll as stated is probably not the billion dollar question. None of us are paid the exorbitant salaries that these geniuses are being paid. By that measure, they must be willing to bear the responsibility/criticism that is inherent to these positions. Saying, “Well if you think it’s so easy, then why don’t you do it” is childish and petty. I guarantee that I personally would be willing to put forth my best effort for the kind of money JA or Phillips are getting. I would also admit when I made mistakes. Those 2 qualifications put me (and many other Bears fans) ahead of JA and Phillips to begin with. Besides, none of these guys are actually writing the contracts or combing them for fine print. They hire people to do it for them. They are quite literally figureheads who delegate their work. Sounds like a great gig to me. I’d be willing to bet that most of the fans on this site could “accept” that kind of money and be able to delegate the responsibility to the people who actually perform the work.

When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!

by LostInSTL on Jan 20, 2010 7:54 AM CST reply actions  

Childish? Not at all.

Taken as it’s stated, there’s an overwhelming group of fans that honestly believe they could do the job better than the “buffoons” that do it for a living.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Jan 20, 2010 7:59 AM CST up reply actions  

and that's very sad and delusional

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Jan 20, 2010 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Sadder than this?

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Jan 20, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

How about this upset little guy/girl?

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Jan 20, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh stop!

Both of you! My wittle heart can’t take the sad puppies anymore!!!

Lol.

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

by Ashley Czuba on Jan 20, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

sorry.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Jan 20, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sorry...

Muwahhhhh!

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Jan 20, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

too funny dude,

just doesn’t get any sadder than that

I will trade you three pretzel's, two bologna sandwiches, and one Lovie Smith for your pudding.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 20, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I think your first post was the saddest of them all

On the contrary, these puppies look like they’re part of a young street gang from the upper west side.

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Jan 20, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Aw! I just want

to take them all home with me!

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

by Ashley Czuba on Jan 20, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Delusion is the hallmark...

of being a fan(atic)! And damn helpful for us these days. And the sad puppy faces are exactly why I now have 2 dogs, a cat, 7 frogs, and a rat! My wife and kids are suckers for that crap, and I am too stupid to say no!

When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!!!

by LostInSTL on Jan 21, 2010 7:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Well...

since I’ve never coached at any level higher than high school, I’m sure I don’t have the offensive or defensive mind to be a play caller at the NFL level… and since my only “scouting” experience (besides Madden) is in the limited internet research I do every NFL offseason to prepare myself to write about the NFL draft from a Bears perspective, I’m sure doing either of those jobs would be a bit dificult.

But being the man in charge of finding the coaches to lead the team and finding the GM to pick the players, I’m sure I wouldn’t do any worse than the current knucklehead running the show.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 20, 2010 8:48 AM CST reply actions  

I think you're right about this...

Not to put words in anyone’s mouth, but those of us who feel we could do a better job aren’t necessarily saying we’d be better “x’s & o’s” guys tomorrow or have a better handle on the all of the players in the NFL and college right off the bat, but my feeling is that we feel we could do a better job of managing the circumstances that they find themselves in.

Ted Phillips was an accountant before he came to the Bears (okay, bad example). The new CEO of General Motors came from the communication industry. John McDonough started out as a marketing department “gopher” with the Cubs and didn’t know anymore about hockey than most fans when he took over the Blackhawks. My point is that if you have proven managerial skills, they can translate to any industry and the concepts of running a business whether it’s a small, mom & pop company or a billion dollar franchise are essentially the same. Get people who know their business in the most important postions and hold everyone, including yourself, accountable to do their jobs effectively and, more often than not, you’d be successful.

That’s where the Bears’ organization falls short. Lovie hasn’t developed players or coaches and can’t admit when he’s made mistakes (Terry Shea, the notable exception), Angelo either can’t judge talent or his scouting department is terrible or his coaching staff can’t develop the players or put them into the best positions, Whatever the case, he’s not holding himself or them accountable enough to make the necessary moves. Phillips is either letting the McCaskey’s or Angelo/Lovie sway him into not acting on anything. Again, not doing his job by letting the people beneath him continue to not perform and not managing upward the way all good executives do.

I don’t think anyone is saying that any jerk off the street could do a better job, but I also don’t think you can go to the other extreme and say that just because we’re not in those positions that somebody outside of that field couldn’t outperform them.

by BearFan611 on Jan 20, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

well said

That’s why I think I could do at least as good a job as Phillips

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 20, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Admittedly?

Probably not, but I know multiple people who can.

by Pretender85 on Jan 20, 2010 9:30 AM CST reply actions  

Yes.

I can sit on my duff and wait for 6 o’clock to roll around with the best of them.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Jan 20, 2010 11:29 AM CST reply actions  

I can run a team pretty damn well on Madden.

So I’m already more qualified than these morons.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

I can't stand band-wagoner fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Jan 20, 2010 11:08 PM CST reply actions  

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