Matt Forte under the knife
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 21, 2010 8:36 AM CST
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This kind of came out of nowhere. Matt Forte had knee surgery. Here is the link from the Chicago Tribune.
The clean-up procedure followed a post-season MRI. Forte sprained the medial collateral ligament in his knee during the Bears' 25-19 victory at Seattle in Week 3, but it is unclear if the surgery stems from that specific injury.
As always, as soon as we get any more info, we'll be sure to pass it along.
Also in the same article the Trib is reporting that Brad Maynard had his hip scoped.
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Do have to wonder...
how much of a role that the week three injury played in Forte’s production this season?
Despite the gawdawful line play, would he/ could he have been “shiftier” in finding holes?
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I Have To Agree Smudgers.
Did our crack coaching staff not realize something was wrong with Matt Forte all season? And why did Matt Forte play hurt? Did he tell anybody his knee was whacked? I guess I have a lot of questions in my mind regarding this situation and how it affected the team.
They only know
as much as Forte leads them to believe. His case is one I would have to side with the coaches and management.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
you have to wonder?
smudgers, A knee injury in a running back, you don’t have to wonder.
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by Maelvampyre on Jan 21, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
it is unclear if the surgery stems from that specific injury.
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by David Taylor on Jan 21, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Whoops.
I’ve been tough on him for not creating more yards in spite of the bad line play. He always seemed to get happy feet at the line, and not willing to hit a hole hard. But if he was playing with injuries that were this bad all year, he looks more like a trooper.
I wonder how these injuries would affect things like burst through the hole, and making cuts? Any thoughts?
they would make a huge difference
I think he showed a lot of courage for even trying.
"I am not an animal!" - Merrick
by Maelvampyre on Jan 21, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
You have to respect his effort
If nothing else, the man played 13 games hurt. Not just dinged up, but hurt enough to need surgery post season. Forte may not be #34’s heir, but he’s the kind of player I want on the Bears; smart, well spoken, hard working and team focused. We need more players like Forte.
Props to Matt for sucking it up, and enduring the whispers that he was a one year wonder.
Especially since the Bears would have probably rotated AP and Garrett Wolfe in his place. I’m pretty sure that he wasn’t fooling the defenses though, since they were teeing up on Cutler all season. A stupid risk for the team to take though, especially after the season, for all intents and purposes, was over .
I just hope they keep him and not decide to trade him and then he goes somewhere else and tears it up. I hate seeing that. It seems like every team in the NFL has former bears on the team and they all do pretty good. Its crazy how a different offense can do that. If Forte played hurt he did a great job playing hurt. He still didnt do that bad this year. Yeah he didnt hit the holes and finish runs but he did have close to 950 yards which isnt that bad. Hopefully he can heal up for this next season of dreams. I’d keep him over Peterson because he doesnt have that tendency to fumble.
well...
at least we know he’s tough. Played all season with a partially torn calf muscle and 13 games with a sprained mcl. Lets just hope this stuff doesn’t linger. Maybe if we had a capable back up he wouldn’t have to put his body on the line.
Space Mountain on Three; One, Two, Three, Space Mountain!
I was thinking the same thing about toughness.
The jury is still out on Bell. From the little bit I saw of him last year, he is more than capable. Too bad Lovie waits till he’s backed in a corner to play young talent. Many other teams would have had the kid out there sooner.
There's shampoo for that.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 21, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
I really
wanted to see DJ Moore in action
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by BearNecessities on Jan 21, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
Towards the end of the season...
Lovie had the perfect opportunity to play him?
There's shampoo for that.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 21, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
he saw some special teams action
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 21, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
Same thing goes for Iglesias in the last couple of games
only special teams. It would have been nice to see what kind of routes he ran and if he could catch the ball…unless the Bears coaching staff doesn’t think those two things are important at the WR postiton.
Should've been more specific
at his natural position. Agreed about Iglesias. He looked good to me in pre-season, why not?
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by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 21, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
Problem with that
I know a player has to start somewhere, but i wonder if maybe sometimes that is part of the problem. if DJ Moore can run down the field and tackle, that doesn’t make him a great shut down corner. that means he can run straight and tackle. something all Defensive players should be able to do.
Putting him in Game time situations when our season is shot, that would give us a great snapshot at his ability to make real time decisions that don’t cost us anything.
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Jan 22, 2010 5:04 AM CST up reply actions
There you have it,
Maybe the whole team had sprains, Maybe Lovie and Angelo have sprains(brain sprains). Forte is just NOT an elite back even when 100%
Not elite, but good
Well above the norm in this league
Agreed.
He doesn’t have the greatest yards per carry or the fastest finishing speed once he does break through. But he’s a pretty darn good asset to have in the passing game, both catching and blocking. He’s also pretty good at holding on to the ball. I think he’s a great all-around back.
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by David Taylor on Jan 21, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Lets not beat him up
so much. After last year everyone was all about matt forte, now because of one bad season (by everybody) all I hear is matt forte isnt an elite back. No shit really? Just how many ‘elite’ backs are out there? maybe 5? you dont have to be an elite player to be successful and productive. We need a better O-line, period. Then Forte can have better opportunities to gain positive yards. Chris Johnson wouldnt even be able to gain yards with a pathetic line as ours.
I agree. You may be able to find RBs with better rushing skills,
But if you take him as a whole package, he brings you a great mix of rushing, speed, hands, blitz pickup, route running, and football smarts. There aren’t too many Jack Of All Trades RBs with the skillset of Forte. He may not be AP, but he’s a really good back who does what’s asked of him.
wow...
What a trooper to play all season with a bum knee and to get the yardage he did get with a bum knee and shotty line play is quite impressive..name one elite back that can (or would) play an entire season with a hurt knee. um yeah i didnt think you could. Forte has work ethic and he may be a lot more elite than expected knowing what we know now.
Bring back our honey bears...sick and tired of hearing about the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and the bars they go work at when they quit. cold weather + cheerleaders in skimpy outfits = lots of fun
Not an elite back, but an elite player.
Forte playing for three months hurt, tying Hester for second on the team in receptions, and being a stout blocker prove the Forte is an elite all-around player, though not necessarily an elite back. He is absolutely above average, and I will take Forte over 90% of the backs in this league because of his versatility, endurance, and guts. Dude’s a beast, and I’m tired of people knocking a guy that gives it his all every down.
the bears are mind-numbing
jones hurt, no backup brought in
forte hurt, no backup brought in
wolfe hurt, we bring in an undrafted rookie
you missed AP hurt no back up brought in
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This isn't bad news, it's good news
I’d be more worried about his ability for this league if he wasn’t injured. The surgery wasn’t “major,” but just a clean-up procedure that should help him get 100% healthy for ’10.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
That's what I took out of the report
a minor clean up, no worries
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 21, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
Not a doctor,
but I thought that the clean up scopes, were to remove scar tissue from previous injuries or cartilage damage? Has Forte had surgery or injury before?
Elite Backs ?
RODGER CRAIG:: Going through the backfield Rodger was average at best. As a reciever out of the backfield and as for yardage after catch, he was awesome. Power runner, so-so. Open field, great. Forte looks a lot like Rodger when he started his career. Maybe thats the proper way to use Matt along with a good power fullback.
never thought of it..
but he does remind me a lot of Craig.
There's shampoo for that.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 21, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
along with a good power fullback.
Someone reminiscent of Tom Rathman or Brad Muster!
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Both great players.
Really miss Brad Muster.
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by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 21, 2010 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
I'll buy that.
But being compared to Rodger Craig isn’t really saying much. The Niners won because of such weapons as Montana, Rice, Clark, and later on Young and Rice alone was good for about 10 wins.
I would say that it speaks volumes about him being really good
not elite though.
There's shampoo for that.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 21, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
A good thing !!
The nice thing about Rodger was the way that Bill Walsh used his talents. Fake hand offs on end arounds and slants allowed Montana more time to find his targets. Rodger was the unknown factor in almost all of the plays that he was involved in. Plus rodger was a real good blocker. He was a master at check blocking and slipping through the line to recieve his pass. Once into the secondary he was hell on wheels. For the most part Montana was at his best doing 15 to 20 yarders and let his recievers go for it. With the right personel Walsh showed the league how to run the West coast offence which I think was the best when run correctly. How long were the Niners in the top 4 teams in the league? The reason that they were so good in their era was that Bill Walsh took the time to TEACH his offence how to play his way.
Roger Craig hit the hole like a beast
His high knees made defenders think twice before they went low on him.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 21, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
Forte needs help whether or not he is an elite back or just really good.
Two back system is what I am screaming. Seems like when Bell finally settled in to play some, Forte was gaining better yardage than at any time earlier in the season. Yes, I know that the OL was playing better, but you have to give Bell some credit for Forte’s success towards the end of the season. I say we bring in CT to share the responsibilities with Forte, and then keep Bell as back up.
There's shampoo for that.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 21, 2010 11:12 AM CST reply actions
we have a two-back system
forte and mckie.
“shut yer mouth!” — da coach.
should've been more specific H, shared responsibility between two HB's.
Now i will just be quiet, Ditka. lol
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by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 21, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing lights a fire under a starter,
like a back-up coming in and producing. 100% on a two back attack.
What about the superstar...
Kevin Jones? I believe he signed a 2 year contract so we get one more year of him. That is of course if he is healthy next year. I think Taylor can be a starter in this league and will seek out a team that will let him do just that.
Forte
Bell
Jones
Wolfe
"When all is said and done, more is said than done" - Lou Holtz
by vinny numero uno on Jan 21, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
a few of us said
That he looked injured, during the course of the season.
That he had surgery comes as no surprise.
I voted yes, and I believe Forte will come back strong.
Go Bears!
"I am not an animal!" - Merrick
The Jets have proven
that our front office is a bunch of tards and can’t recognize talen such as Thomas Jones
jets also proved
what we already knew.. TJ was a good back and benson was a bum yet they still ran well together..think if we had TJ and Forte how that would pan out for us.
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This isn't that surprising
It’s a fairly normal surgery for players to have and it’s been reported he played injured most of this last year.
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by Sam Householder on Jan 21, 2010 3:20 PM CST reply actions
Are You Kidding Me ???????
Sorry but we were the " Two Back System " pioneers . Thomas Jones and Ced Benson were our 1-2 punch . The Jets and a few other teams took our idea and improved apon it . But rest assured it was ours first .
As for Matt Forte not being elite …… name me a few backs that have his skill set . A back that has good running skills , good ball skills to catch the ball no matter where you line him up , is an outstanding blocker when called apon and possess the instincts that he does . When you start naming these guys you’ll find out that he is in fact an elite talent when healthy . He may not have the speed or quicks but his knowledge of the game and his smarts in general make up for it ( kinda like Emmitt Smith , a tough SOB with well rounded skills ) .
As for this AP ( the Vikings AP that is ) is the elite back sorry again wrong answer . An elite back dosn’t turn the ball over like he does . He fumbles , and losses them , more than any other player at his position . Is he a dominiate runner , yes . Is he elite in my mind no because his glaring weakness has killed his team at points . When I think elite I think Walter Payton , Jim Brown , Barry Sanders ect… .
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 22, 2010 12:20 AM CST reply actions
I'd take
a Chris Johnson, Thomas Jones, or Jonathan Stewart over Adrian Peterson ANY day.
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by BearNecessities on Jan 22, 2010 5:07 AM CST up reply actions
I dont know about Johnathan Stewart.
But I would take Steven jackson, CJ and TJ over Peterson. None of which dont seem to drop the ball as much.
TJ is the most underrated back in the NFL now.
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by David Taylor on Jan 22, 2010 7:30 AM CST up reply actions
You whore!
How dare you spend time with another website!! I feel so used….
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
lol.
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by David Taylor on Jan 22, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
OK but if ever catch you hanging out at that skanky Acme Packing Company
we’re through!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
fair enough.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Jan 25, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
specially that site.
Makes my heart hurt.
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I want and/or need followers. http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers
There are some good fans there.
But don’t worry, I do like it here way better. If that’s any consolation. ;)
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by David Taylor on Jan 22, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
No, most definitely not.
I really hope Brees makes their secondary look like my high school’s team.
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I can't help but feel
that the statement that we were the two back system pioneers feels very wrong. Unless you’re counting like crazy wayback in the day. Then I’ll agree.
I would not, however, say that TJ and Cedric Benson were the first two-back system, nor did anyone ever want to try to copy that.
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What I was saying ........
…… is we made the two back system work better than anyone in the league at the time and numerous teams ( Jets & Panthers to name a few ) followed our lead and went to this system . As for the first issue not they were not the very first in history to do the two back stuff , but we did bring it back into the spotlight .
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 22, 2010 3:58 PM CST reply actions
2 back system ?
Try 1970’s—Shula—Kick—Czonka == the Fins. Watch those films, take notes and apply. Don’t forget the O line that made it all work.
Like I said not the first in history but we brought it back into the spotlight .
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 23, 2010 12:17 PM CST reply actions
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