Hiring Coordinators: Perception Vs. Reality
The last few weeks haven't been very good from a P.R. standpoint for the Bears. They've been painted as a bride jilted at the alter, time and time again. The perception through the media, and even here on WCG has been that Jerry Angelo, Ted Phillips, and Lovie Smith are searching for a coaching staff with no plan what so ever. And that they are on their, what is it now, fourth or fifth choice? That could be the case, and I'm sure the Negative Nancy's will be out in force lambasting the coaching search (or lack thereof!), but if you look deeper into the hunt what do we really see?
Yes the Bears are giving the "due diligence" speech. And yes, I'm just as sick of it as most of you are, but I really doubt these guys are lying about their process. They must have a plan, and even with as slow as it seems, they will stick to their plan.
Perception #1 - The Bears lost out on their #1 choice for offensive coordinator, Jeremy Bates.
But the Reality is: Bates was their initial target because USC was finished playing and they even were as far as having an interview scheduled to meet with Bates. But. As soon as Pete Carroll jumped to Seattle, Bates had his "in" back to the NFL, and in a coaching environment he was comfortable with. Bad Luck Bears.
Had Carroll not left USC, who knows what could have come out of the Bates interview. Bates wanted to get back to the pros, and with the familiarity and friendship he has with Jay Cutler, he very well could have been hired.
Perception #2 - The Bears were thwarted in an attempt to interview their second choice for offensive coordinator, Tom Clements.
But the Reality is: The Bears reached out to Green Bay because they lost in the wildcard round of the playoffs, which is the rules of the NFL. They had to wait until the Packers were done. They denied the interview so the Bears moved on.
Perception #3 - The Bears interviewed their third choice in Ken Zampese of the Bengals.
But the Reality is: The Bears had to wait for the Bengals to be eliminated from playoff contention before asking permission to interview Zampese. And I'm sure they'd rather explore possibilities with Clements (since he has been around the NFC North) first. But that doesn't necessarily make him a better choice. Had they talked to Zampese before inquiring about Clements really makes no difference.
Perception #4 -The Bears lost out of a chance to hire Perry Fewell for defensive coordinator.
But the Reality is: Ok, I'll give you this one... Reports were he was weighing offers from both the Giants and Bears. And while there were no specific contract numbers that were floated out there, my guess is New York had a better offer on the table.
But in thinking about which job would have better forwarded the career of Perry Fewell, you have to think he made the right choice. Working in a different system than the Tampa 2 will only make Fewell that much more of an attractive head coaching candidate when he receives another opportunity. It was the right decision for his future.
Perception #5 - The Bears are putting the cart before the offensive horse by interviewing and hiring position coaches before hiring an offensive coordinator.
But the Reality is: Positions coaches teach technique. Getting off the line and into your pattern as a tight end is the same in any offense. The routes are more or less the same. Foot and hand placement in blocking varies little from coach to coach. Even if the Bears bring in an offensive coordinator that favors a zone blocking scheme, it's still man up blocking, the o-line will just get to their reads in a different way.
Mike Tice was a great hire, he was available, he and the Bears saw a great fit, and they got it done.
Perception #6 - Interviewing Rod Chudzinski for O.C. makes him the fourth option.
But the Reality is: The Bears had to wait until San Diego was eliminated from the playoffs to even seek permission to talk with him. Had S.D. not lost to the Jets he never would have interviewed when he did. For all we know he tops their wish list.
Perception #7 - Mike Martz is the fall back plan if no one wants to come to Chicago.
But the Reality is: This is a tough call, because I've seen conflicting reports on whether they have or haven't reached out to Martz, or whether they have or haven't spoken to Martz about becoming O.C. I'll tell you this though, if the Bears end up hiring Martz and give us the B.S. about him being their top candidate all along then we should all picket Halas Hall. I'm sure he's a name they have in mind, but I really hope it doesn't come down to Martz.
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I read a great article
On Chudinski by David Haugh (link) he sounds like he’d be a great fit. I hope the Bears pull the trigger on him.
"My ficas tree could call plays better than Ron Turner." - My Dad
yes
why did they let him leave the building without a deal?
Make Jim Harbaugh Assistant Head coach
and let him take over next year!
Marinelli is Ass't HC already
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Make em ALL assistant HC's.
Every single new hire. Then we’ll get some quality guys!!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Chud
Has anyone heard how the interview with Chud went? I’ve haven’t been able to find anything.
by boondock_saint812 on Jan 22, 2010 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
Me neither
and it’s rather disturbing to hear nothing at this point. Maybe they hired him, but out of respect for Gaines funeral they’re waiting until tomorrow.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
It's driving me crazy.
I want to hear that it at least went very well for crying out loud. Haven’t heard anything about a DC either, no names…nothing? What are they like the CIA or something? Bad question, not intelligent enough.
Round and round ya go, where ya stop only Homie knows..spin your dumb ass!!! Homie D. Clown
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 22, 2010 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
Excellent job.
I love it when people debunk the common wisdom as thoroughly as you have.
Here’s my question (and sorry if you’ve answered it before and I’ve missed it)…
Why are you against Martz? You seem to be big on Williams at LT, which to me is one of the bigger needs for his system, along with a pass-catching RB, which the Bears also have in Forte.
I'm not really against Martz...
But if he was the choice he should have been hired by now. I’m old school and still like to run the ball and play action and hit the TE!
I’d like to see Chud hired
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 22, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
just one thing
Not sure I agrre that position coaches won’t clash with an OC or DC if they weren’t hired by him. A lot of prep work in football combines technique with strategy. Your position coaches run the film studies with their players, and alot of times thats where strategy and technique are critiqued together, often times the DC or OC isn’t in those film seesions. Being on a different page than your coordinator is bad news. Not saying that WILL happen in Chicago, but I’ve seen it happen first hand on other teams.
just to play Devil's advocate
then why keep on the WR and RB coach to work with the new OC?
I see your point though, but usually the OC will work his system around the philospohy of the HC.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 22, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
playing the devil's advocate....
My turn to play devil’s advocate…..Different schemes often require different techniques, which are coached by position coaches. For example, an OC who wants to use a zone blocking run scheme, which uses smaller, faster offensive linemen, like the one used in Denver ill have problems with a more contemporary line coach, like Tice, who is more into the large, Pace/McKinnie style mauling linemen. One or the other could adjust. but you would think that allowing the OC to hire a line coach more “in tune” with his philosophies would make for a better team.
As to your question, I’m not exactly sure why Spencer or Drake were kept on. Drake has actually done a fine job coaching up the receivers this season, but is the same coach who oversaw such a horrid performance by so many Bear receivers since he came on in ‘04. And I, for one, am not impressed with Spencer. This is the guy who coached Benson, Thomas Jones, Peterson, Forte, Wolfe, Kevin Jones, Anthony Thomas, Jason McKie, Kahlil Bell and JD Runnels without a single Pro-Bowl performance from the lot. TJ and Benson have since found success elsewhere. I haven’t seen anything that leads me to believe that Spencer and Drake shouldn’t have exited with the rest of the offensive staff.
As far as OC working their system around the HC, that kind of works, but in the case of Lovie Smith, there is no offensive system other than “we get off the bus running”, which was a complete farce.
Other than that one point, though, I agree with the rest of the article completely. It amazes me how often people seem to think interview order indicates the level of interest. That’s just silly, especially with the playoffs still unfolding.
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
maybe they didnt fire the rb or wr coach yet
Because they will if the oc don’t want them.ithe the new oc wants to bring in his own guys I don’t think the bears will not hire someone in order to keep Spencer and Drake.
by Ryan21 on Jan 22, 2010 3:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
actually I could see lovie saying...
I could see Lovie saying we want you but….
If you live in Chicago you are a bears fan, if you move from chicago you stay a bears fan, if you move to chicago you will be a bears fan.
The reality is
that the sequence of interviews does not necessarily indicate preference. And even if a candidate leaves without a contract doesn’t mean he left without an offer.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson
"More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Honestly.....
….. I gotta say I don’t want Mike Martz either and heres why . His systems don’t work for out door teams , he’s a pass happy freak and we’re a running football team and the league has caught up to his version of the run and shoot . Oh and did I mention hes a pass happy guy and I like our traditional pound the ball down your throat offense !? I’m with with Chud is the best OC canidate thus far . He worked wonders with a down right bad Cleveland offense so just think what he could do with us .
And by the way , hey Wilt its me Forte22 from SportingNews.com . Love this site thanks for the heads up on it !!!!!
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 22, 2010 1:49 PM CST reply actions
Welcome!!!
You’ll see alot of familar faces over here from sporting news!
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 22, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, welcome.
I have to disagree, though. I really don’t buy into the “we’re a running team” philosophy anymore. I’d be happy with a 65/35 pass/run ratio, provided it’s designed to the strengths of our personnel.
That said, Martz does scare me.
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The reason they don't want to hire Martz
probably comes down to money and power. I think both Lovie and Jerry are worried that Martz will be a lot of trouble and make power grabs and bad PR. I also think owners want a cheaper up and coming OC than a retread.
Sorry Kev I’m kinda oldschool so reverse that ratio and its good for me . Not to mention the weather wouldn’t allow us to pass that much . I like running to set up the pass rather than the reverse . But we do agree on one thing …. Martz scares the he!! out of me !!!!!!!
And Wilt I’ve noticed alot of the SN crew over here where we belong !
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 22, 2010 2:00 PM CST reply actions
It's ok.
I have no problem with that philosophy, I just don’t think we’re built for it. I prefer balanced, but the league seems pass happy.
In a perfect world, I’d love something like what the Saints do—They have the threat of both, and if you commit to one, they’ll like slap you in the face with the other.
That being said, I never ever expect to see that in Chicago, until there’s an overall regime change. (Ownership down)
P.S. Use the reply button—-everyone will yell at you :P
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the weather only affects 3-4 games
Most of the time not even that many. Our grass might make it harder than the weather. Still don’t want Martz and we need a better running game. 2 of 3 of the teams that are left are a pass fist offense with Min. being very good with both.
by Ryan21 on Jan 22, 2010 4:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
+1
when I read his name was in the hat I got excited.
Why Picket?
I want Chudinski but if it comes to Martz, the guy can get the job done, hes just a jerk. Guess what most coaches are.
Great read, it’s about time someone realized the media doesn’t always know what the hell they’re talking about. Why cry about Fewell? what the hell has he done. If the Bears signed him, most of you would be talking crap like’ “here we go getting another nonproven guy”. If Bates was here, I’m sure it would be the same. Relax, it seems they are doing what they can.
As for Def., I’d love to have ol Herm Edwards.
Fewell....
Actually, if they weren’t going to fire Smith, and if his scheme was going to remain, I think Fewell was the best option available. But that doesn’t make him the only option, and I’d like to see the Bears interview staffers from the Jets, Saints, Colts and Vikings before committing to a DC or an OC………
I’m in no rush to see the Bears jump on someone just to shut up all the “why don’t we have the jobs filled yet?” crowd. Let’s face it, the best teams generally have the best staffs, and there are 4 teams still playing.
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
terry boers on WSCR has peeps...
who told him (supposedly) that lovie wanted to hire martz immediately. JA said no dice. So lovie is now looking at all other options. after all the interviews are done, lovie will make his pitch to JA and the decision will be made. could still be martz.
very easy to beleive
Theres only 1 problem with Martz, I like running the ball and with him I’m sure it would be pass 1st. That only ok because we have Cutler
not okay
Jay Cutler is not Peyton Manning, Lovie Smith is not Bill Bellichick, and the Bears don’t play in a dome. We gotta run that rock.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Jan 22, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
good point
very good, I only ment “ok” in its lowest sense… if that count for anything
can we pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaasssseee
Stop bringing in former head caoches who sucked. Martz has been bad with his last 2 tries and ruined the one team he was good with. Our d-line still sucked and Lovie is well on his way to being a below .500 coach. We need some young blood in our coaching staff. Someone who hasn’t lost more games than they have won. We missed out on the one good coach from the nfc north, Holmegren.
by Ryan21 on Jan 22, 2010 4:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
When was the last time we brought in a former head coach?
My recollection has the team bringing in primarily — if not exclusively — assistants. Tice is the exception but you can’t say he’s a failure yet! He hasn’t even started working…
by shawndgoldman on Jan 22, 2010 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
Sometimes
great assistant coaches are horrible head coaches – just sayin.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
Good Post....
There are 4 teams worth of coaches that can’t even be spoken with, yet, and somehow people place a level of interest based on when a interview is conducted? Great post! Spot on!
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
As others have stated,
great post.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
Perception is reality
At the moment, they’re the same in the Bears’ world.
Perception: Incompetence- fans believe they can do just a good of job as the current brass is doing.
Realty: Incompetence- they haven’t done anything to dismiss the idea yet…please see Lovie’s quote about coaches wanting to come to Chicago.
Hopefully this changes in the next week or so.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
No chance incompetence transforms into competence in a week (or so).
There simply is not more than meets the eye.
I meant
more about coaches being hired than the “reality” of the team’s current state.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
agreed
And we need to ask ourselves: do the Bears have an OC or DC yet. No. Did they put themselves at a disadvantage by keeping a coach who is joined at the hip to the 4-3, and who is on thin ice with regard to his job? Yes. I don’t see it as being a “Negative Nancy” but neither is it a Pollyanna viewpoint either. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.
"I am not an animal!" - Merrick
Catch 22 on the candidates for OC.
Christensen is my #1 favorite candidate to become our new OC. We would have to wait possibly more than two weeks to interview him if Indy’s game goes the way I think it will. I really like Chud from what I have read and would definitely welcome him as our new OC if that were to happen. My fear is that if we wait to hire Christensen and for some reason he doesn’t want to come here, we offend Chud and lose out on both. I am by no means saying that is going to happen, it just wouldn’t surprise me with this organization. This site would be jumpin then!!!
Round and round ya go, where ya stop only Homie knows..spin your dumb ass!!! Homie D. Clown
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 22, 2010 4:39 PM CST reply actions
Yep, that is hilarious.
You sir are correct. Maybe neither of them want to come here for all I know. I guess at least Chud showed up for the interview. Maybe just for a one night stand. lol
Well, we always have our back up plan that everyone is excited about, Martz.
Wait…wait…APPLAUSE ANYONE…That’s right, just throw bricks..not money. lol
Round and round ya go, where ya stop only Homie knows..spin your dumb ass!!! Homie D. Clown
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 22, 2010 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
The whole thing is just a reminder
for me that it takes two sides to have a deal.
No one is going to take a lateral move with no security, and our personnel needs someone with experience.
Eventually the job’ll get filled, but I’m not expecting it to be someone anyone knows/likes. The political/financial reasons for keeping the structure intact aside, it has really damaged the football side of the organization.
Meh.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
I don't even care if it is an up and comer really,
as long as whoever it is does a good job. I can’t stand Ron Turner, I haven’t liked him since the first time he was with us. Imo, chances are really good that whoever they bring in will do a better job than him. I am still hopefull that we can land quality coordinators even with the security issue. Both coordinators are likely to sign multi-year contracts with incentives, so I don’t buy into that as much as a lot of other people. The Bears ownership are known for being cheep, so lets just hope for the best anyhow. I couldn’t agree with you more about your last sentence, you hit the nail right on the head.
Round and round ya go, where ya stop only Homie knows..spin your dumb ass!!! Homie D. Clown
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 22, 2010 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
I just hope it hasn't damaged it too bad.
Round and round ya go, where ya stop only Homie knows..spin your dumb ass!!! Homie D. Clown
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 22, 2010 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
Good Post
Your time line approach to which assistance are available is terrific. Unless you’re a mind reader nobody really knows what the Bears front office priorities are for new hires. Mostly just speculation.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
Good stuff!
I absolutely agree with you on Tice. Though I thought the hiring of Tice was unusual, I was certainly not against it. IMHO, I think he makes the OC job more attractive!
If the Bears were gonna hire Martz, I believe it would’ve happened by now. That’s my hope anyway (fingers & toes crossing).
Whether
they were the number 1 or 5 ranked candidate for the Bears, the fact remains the Bears couldn’t even get Bates in for an interview, and Fewell took a different position. The reason for both, presumably, is when the Bears decided to keep Lovie and Angelo on a win or else short leash this year, they also were putting any potential coordinators/position coaches on that short leash.
Unless one of the new coordinators does a stellar job, but overall the team flounders, the coordinators will leave when Lovie leaves. Anyone who replaces Lovie is going to want their own staff.
The Bears openings are not attractive ones. They could have been if they cleared house and let someone start over, but as is no good coach is going to leave a position of security and success to take a job where they are immediately on the hot seat.
The only reason Tice came here is Del Rio might be in as hot a seat as Lovie, plus Jacksonville is a crappy franchise in a crappy city.
DEJESUS!!!
i suspect
the mccaskeys want coordinators who could be lovie’s replacement.
It's a Catch-22
Many coordinators might consider the postions attractive, due to the possibility of promotion to HC in one or two years.
However, if they perform well enough to truly merit consideration for the HC job, they may in fact improve the offense/defense/team enough for Lovie to be kept on longer.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 23, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions

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