Do the Bears need to hire a coordinator soon?
As we enter yet another week of Chicago Coordinator Watch 2010, the mood of Bears fandom is starting to get tense. We've had several candidates come through for the offensive side of the ball, and depending who you ask, we've either snubbed or been snubbed. The Bears have really only announced one true person they've wanted for the defensive side, and, well, he's in NY.
Is it imperative to sign someone for at least one of these positions soon? Let us know, and read my thoughts below.
I personally don't believe they need to hire anyone right away. Bringing someone in just to bring them in will only lead to disaster.
That said, it is important that they at least show that they're working a little harder towards finding people. I'd like to think that the lack of news coming out about defensive coordinators isn't bad, but news about it tends to leak pretty easily in the 21st century. The fact that we don't hear anything suggests one of two things to me--they're targeting someone on the Colts or Saints, or they have no idea what they want. I hope it's not the latter.
As far as offensive coordinators go, they've seen several people come through now, and don't seem to have liked them (or the people didn't like the situation--much more likely.) To that regard, I do think they should bring the offensive person in pretty soon. Learning a new offense is going to take much more time for the players, especially with so many young guys, whereas whoever comes in on defense is going to run a pretty familiar scheme, with their own personal tweaks here and there.
So we'll see how it goes. It's a tough time to be a Bears fan, with so much uncertainty, and what seems to be a lot of ill will coming from the fan base towards the organization, but remember--at least we're not owned by Al Davis.
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In my mind
every one knows that this coaching staff is on the “hot seat” if they do not win this season….Lovie will have finally run out of excuses (though he could say that Jerry failed him. Something he sort of hinted at late this season)…..
My problem with the “coordinator search” is that they are only interviewing one candidate a week and thats it…..Granted they might be “doing their homework” and looking at everyone but you would think that after what 3 weeks that they would have at the very least interviewed more than 2 people at this point……Thats where my frustration for this search comes from…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
Does a Bear shit in the woods?
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
In this case... he shits on himself
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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…and then he asks the rabbit next to him, “Hey, when you take a crap, does it stick to your fur?” “No,” replies the rabbit, so the bear picks him up and uses him to wipe with.
My bad, thought it was joke hour…..
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Hahaha
I literally lol’d. :]
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by Ashley Czuba on Jan 26, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
here you go
The image of stability will be very difficult to achieve for the current Bears coaching staff and front office. The cat is out of the bag, as it were. I don’t think that hiring a coordinator will affect the stability of the team either way, at least for the next 12 months. Winning is the only thing that will contribute to stability.
"I am not an animal!" - Merrick
I truly feel that if they bring in the right coordinators,
they will win more games and even make it to the playoffs; thus, more stability will be achieved. I am not a big Lovie fan, but I am a die hard Bears fan. So when it comes down to it, I just want to see them win whether its with Lovie or not. The right coordinators imo will make all the difference in the world. I cant even express how happy I am to see Ron Turner gone. Imo, he was the biggest reason for losing this past season and seasons in the past. We would have never made it to the SB if it wasn’t for our defense. I wouldn’t even want him coaching my son’s H.S. football team. Lovie didn’t do us any favors either I know, but get the right coordinators in here and they will have success.
Round and round ya go, where ya stop only Homie knows..spin your dumb ass!!! Homie D. Clown
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 25, 2010 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah but here is the question
If the we pick up a good OC and halfway through the season maybe we are in the top 15 in Offense do they fire him just like they did to our boy is SD??? Its seems like our team thrives on our offense to suck so that our D looks like the legs of the team doing all the work. Just a thought though. They wont fire our OC if they are doing a good job until the end of the season.
does it matter
im not really sure it matters who they hire this year, whoever it is has to know there is a very good chance its a one year gig, im not positive if the bears win the sb that they wont clean house from Phillips down. So i dont think its important to hire right away for that reason. But with the personality of cutler you better get someone he can at least be on board with or this next season could be unBEARable. I think angelo and smith tried to save their jobs by blaming the offense all around, dont get me wrong they deserved some of the blame. But to be as bad as they were only to clean house on offense is stupid, this bought them one chance to turn it around but now nobody wants to be tied to this firecracker of a team right now. N big name coach wants a one year gig and a younger guy doesnt want to be the scapegoat if it goes bad. IMHO after this year is done and gone with lovie the next coach of the bears is none other than Cowher mark my words, and with him will come defense and a balanced offense with some balls!!!!!! OR i might just have diarreha of the mouth lol
I don't think we really have to worry
to much about the Coordinator search until a couple of weeks past the superbowl. I really think that a position coach would be interested in a first time OC or DC job. Remember Lovie isn’t really a lame duck and if the team has success they most surely will get at least a second season. As to the OC spot i really think there will be a couple good position coaches that i would like the team to interview. I personally would rather them take their time and do there due diligence then rush to one of Lovie’s friends. Also the (arguably) best two offensive teams position coaches are still available.
Yep, Clyde Christensen from Indy..I just don't think he would come here.
I would be happier than hell if they managed to land him, I just dont think they can. I wouldn’t be mad if they hired Hue Jackson. He would be way better than RT imho.
Round and round ya go, where ya stop only Homie knows..spin your dumb ass!!! Homie D. Clown
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 25, 2010 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed... why would Christensen leave
Peyton Manning, the best quarterback in the league with talent coming out of his @$$ for a sub par line and receiving corps.
Maybe he has aspirations
to do something more than just that. I mean really what is he doing? Manning is a pro bowl QB and it doesn’t look like Moore is going anywhere. If he came to chicago he wopuld be able to mold a young QB himself. He would be able to prove that he actually had something to do with Manning.
To answere the post, I am an impatient person..
but i dont care how long it takes as long as they get the right guys. I think that will improve stability.
Round and round ya go, where ya stop only Homie knows..spin your dumb ass!!! Homie D. Clown
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 25, 2010 11:12 PM CST reply actions
the stability ship has sailed
It is like a wobbly 3 legged barstool. JA, Lovie and Phillips are the legs. At this point each coordinator is just 1 cocktail napkin to place under the Lovie leg of the barstool.
No
But if they don’t have both picked within 2 maybe 3 weeks of the SB then they really had no clue what they were going to do after firing Turner. If they’re looking at people still coaching then they have plenty of time to do background on them now and interview later. If they wiff on whoever they’re waiting for then…well, that will pretty much say everything.
No need to rush
I do not see the need to rush into hiring an OC yet since the offseason just started and other teams are still playing at this point. Maybe they are just interviewing all possible candidates and deciding all possibilities like if they want a run first offense or a pass first offense and other issues. So at this point, I am not worried yet. I don’t see the Bears org. making a final decision until towards the end of Feb. 2010.
Mark Brown
WISH
I just wish everyone would stop with the coach hating. Maybe if Lovie was signed for the next 5-7 years, then we would have some stability. Look at examples set by other teams like the Steelers, Eagles and teams of old like Bears with Papa Halas, Cowboys with Landry. They are well established teams because they just didn’t get rid of head coaches so easily. I say take the time to hire OC and DC and extend Lovie for another 5-7 yrs. That is where your stability must start.
Mark Brown
I don't know Mcbchild,
I think that Bears fans in general take a wait and see approach to their team. We are generally a patient lot. With all our sports teams come to think of it. Sox and Cubs fans endured untold years of disappointment, with the latter famous for the “Wait til next year” mentality.
Think about it. How would a Philly fan react to the last few years? Would they have shown the patience we’ve had with Lovie? Our Bears have shown a fundamental decline in talent level and the inability to harness what talent we have every year for the past . Come to think of it, this year is the first year I’ve really been down on Lovie. I’d convinced myself that the disappointing years after the SB loss were bad because of injuries or luck.
No more. My patience has worn thin. The inability of the coaching staff to admit that we are anything but contenders just angers me a whole lot. I don’t want to hear how “we’re close” anymore, because I’ve seen with my own eyes the way our team is playing and I don’t believe it.
I hope that Lovie makes me eat my words, and next year we are winners. But I wouldn’t bet on it.
If he’d been kind enough to put that first, I could have stopped reading there and then.
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"I don’t care if Belichick wins twenty Super Bowls. He’s an asshole." - Da Coach
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
Take your time....
The idea that the Bears are in trouble because it’s taking so long to hire coordinators is funny. The Bears should be thorough, not swift. If they hire bad coordinators quickly, how is that good? Speed of hire has little to nothing to do with anything. Still teams left playing, and I’m not seeing any surefire coaches that the bears missed out on. In fact, the most stable coach out there (other than Nolan, who was never going to come to Chicago) was signed by Chicago (Tice).
Not that I have any confidence that this administration will hire anyone useful as far as coordinators go, especially after considering recent history. Consider, if you will, that this was the same brain trust that thought letting Rivera get away was a good idea, and the very same think-tank that was once high on Ron Turner and favored Bob Babich over the aforementioned Rivera. But even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while, as evidenced by Rivera’s hiring in the first place. Maybe lightning can strike twice. I wouldn’t be completely stunned…….but I’m not holding my breath, either.
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 25, 2010 11:45 PM CST reply actions
See my post below. Thorough is one thing.
Looking like you have no other options after the Fewell decision and having a lot of talented offensive minds shuffle in and out with no sign of direction is another.
so how does it look that way?
is it because the media says it does or you have and inside track as to whats going on in the Halas Hall office so you know?
You are correct, I don't know the inner workings of Halas Hall.
But this site is 90% about speculation, and that’s what I’m doing. :-) I hope that they are quietly doing the right things, and everyone in the industry knows what we don’t. However, right now I’m frustrated, and I’m combining that with the track record of Lovie, Jerry, Ted, and Virginia to base my assumptions.
Other Options
I think it might be an option to bring in an OC that is familiar with some sort of wildcat formation that can utilize Forte/Wolfe or Forte/Hester that can also pass. This will extend the time the Bears offense is on the field while keeping the defense fresh. Heck, call Brian Billick is still avail. for the DC. He took Baltimore to the super bowl on defense alone and Helped the vikings as an assist coach get to the playoffs six of the seven seasons there under Dennis Green.
Mark Brown
He's an offensive guy
Not a DC…
"My ficas tree could call plays better than Ron Turner." - My Dad
by Sam Householder on Jan 26, 2010 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
We traded for the first legitimate QB since Jim McMahon...
…and you’re advocating the wildcat, which (a) we’re pathetic at, and (b) takes out our best offensive player?
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"I don’t care if Belichick wins twenty Super Bowls. He’s an asshole." - Da Coach
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
Wildcat... no thanks
That’s for teams that have no passing game… usually because of the quarterback. this is not the case with the Bears.
No
Because they need to get it right and I’d rather that they are able to interview everyone they want to look at than to rush into it just b/c fans and media think it’s taking a long time. That being said I have a feeling they want to look at the Colts staff because what staff in the NFL has more people connected to Lovie and/or JA on it, most likely at least. At least this is my hope.
"My ficas tree could call plays better than Ron Turner." - My Dad
by Sam Householder on Jan 26, 2010 12:06 AM CST reply actions
I voted yes...
For a front office and coaching staff with so much on the line, they need to be moving decisively this offseason. If you are trying to attract quality people, you have to inspire confidence by showing you are taking decisive, well thought-out steps to improve your team. If the Bears want to do it right and take time interviewing multiple people to make sure they get the right guy, fine. But the way it has looked so far is that the FO has no idea what is going on.
First of all, Lovie’s defensive philosophy is set. He is going to bring in a cover-2 guy. He knows who these people are and HE SHOULD HAVE a short list of people he wants for the job. My guess is all along his list had one name on it (Fewell) and that dude hopped on a different train. If Lovie and Jerry wanted to interview someone who is currently on, say, the Colts who run a similar scheme then why not release a statement saying something like:
“We are committed to finding the best possible candidate for the Coordinator positions. We intend to work in a professional and methodical manner and interview the best minds for the job, including candidates who may still be coaching into the playoffs. For this reason, unless something unexpected happens, we do not intend to make a decision until sometime after the end of the NFL post-season.”
There, that would do three things:
#1. Cover Lovie and JA’s a**es.
#2. Give the guys you’ve already interviewed confidence that the reason not to feel insulted that they have neither received an offer or rejection yet is because the organization is just following a preset plan.
#3. Give us, the fans, some hope that someone with a clue is just waiting for the right guy in the near future.
Instead, our organization looks unprofessional in addition to inept, and no one wants to work with us in the end.
On the offensive side, even Martz is getting impatient. Whether his threat to walk is taken seriously or not, it doesn’t bode well if your last option for coordinator reluctantly accepts the job because he feels the organization disrespected him in any way.
I’m pretty sure this sounds like rambling. Sorry, my thoughts are usually coherent…
I have a theory.....
I have thought from the beginning that Lovie is looking to poach a DC from Indy, but has to wait until after the post-season. Lovie is committed to the Cover-2 scheme, and nobody in the league runs it better than Indy, so it only makes sense that Smith would be looking to bring in somebody from that staff to DC. I also think he has his eyes on someone from either Minnesota, Indy or New Orleans for the OC spot. Whether he can get that person remains to be seen.
There has been conflicting reports that Carmichael may want an OC position in which he would be the play caller (Sean Payton calls the plays for NO), and Joe Lombardi might be ready to step up to the OC spot as well. Chicaog could end up being attractive to Carmichael, as it could be a quick route to a HC job if the defense underperforms (again) and The offense flourishes under him.
I know, It’s just speculation, but by the same token, I’d kinda be a bit miffed if the Bears hired a gamble without at least pursuing some options from these teams. Decisively does not necessarily mean quickly. Jumping on the first thing with a pulse that is willing to accept an offer is not decisive……it’s stupid. But I agree that once the candidates are all interviewed, then Chicago should be making an announcement with a quickness. I want decisiveness, too. I just want it to be deliberate as well.
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 26, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
I agree, though, to some extent, with....
your thoughts on the statement issue. But, to be fair, NFL teams are infamously paranoid and famously secretive. Also, issuing a statement like that is kinda like issuing a statement saying “Dogs will chase cats.” Effectively the statement would be stating the obvious, as interviewing candidates on playoff teams is a overwhelmingly common, and logical, practice in any league.
Also, the Bears have been interviewing , or set their eyes to interview playoff coaches each week (Zampese, Chud, Hue). So it’s fairly obvious that playoff coaches are in Lovie’s headlights. From what I understand, Fewell wasn’t made an offer here, which tells me Lovie had more interviews in mind.
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 26, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
OK, I see where you are going with this now.
I guess the upcoming season is Make or Break for Lovie, so it makes sense he’d go for broke and look to hire some of the guys you mentioned. I just hope that if those options don’t work out we haven’t burned our bridges with some of the less attractive options.
Why would anyone be a co-ordinator for a coach that will likely be fired at years end?
That’s the gist of the problem. Only unknowns and desperate retreads need apply.
While I hope they are waiting to pluck a SB coach
Something in my gut tells me otherwise. But here is to hoping.
I honestly think it doesnt matter...
On one hand…the longer you wait to hire an OC, the more of a laughing stock the Bears are in the NFL. Then again, I dont think they care about who they hire…just look at the last few they tried to nab up.
And the other hand, the quicker you hire an OC, the faster the spotlight is off them and the Bears organization. Which is why I think right now, they will take anyone thats “capable” to call plays (which could be your next door neighbor).
Does it matter? no. both hands are full of poop (Lovie and JA).
This is Chicago
no matter what the Bears do, the media in their endless efforts to sell papers, register blogers, and gain ratings will find a way to question any move they make. Thus, the thousands of people who let the media tell them what to think will believe there unstable, true or not.
I said "No"
Mostly because, while I’m impatient like many others, I want us to find the right person. It might take a while, and there are still others to interview (from the Colts or Saints) and it’s okay to take their time when making a decision like this – especially bc they’re kind of on the hot seat this season.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
at this point it seems to me
on the offensive side of the ball, they only want t guy who will run 1st ask questions later and then pass. I love old school smash mouth football but its not too many of those types of oc’s around the league anymore.
I know most of you don’t like it but I think Martz may be a good fit. Although Chub was who I wantted.
On def. Lovie wants a puppet imo
I wanted the Chud also.
I want a system that is dynamic and attacking. Also one that will fully realize Cutler’s skills. A SD like offense would’ve been amazing. Hopefully we’ll end up with a system like that. Maybe we’re waiting on a Saints OC candidate?
I also don’t mind Martz.






















