Chicago Bears Coordinator Watch: Day 25 (Open Thread)
Perry Fewell was interviewed for Defensive Coordinator in Chicago, but decided to go in another direction. Since then, the only name attached to a potential Bears DC hire was Rod Marinelli, and that was him mentioning himself.
I questioned before why the Offensive Coordinator position was generating all of the attention, and most people that replied seemed to suggest it was simply because of the way 2009 ended. Still, both Coordinator positions are open, but only the OC position is garnering any interviews.
Sean Jensen seems to think the OC process is coming to an end, and even leaves open the possibility of a mystery candidate being in the mix. We'll see how the Rodgers/ Martz interviews play out. Dan Pompei thinks that Martz is the leader of the pack.
As always, keep your eyes and ears open for any movement... we may very well see some action from Halas Hall this weekend.
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Oh noes!
Surely Lovie isn’t contemplating being the DC himself again??
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
The reality is, it probably doesn't really matter who is "named" the DC
Because as long as Lovie is in Chicago, we’ll be running his beloved Tampa 2.
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
thats why noone talks or cares about who is DC
All the attention goes to OC because the offense might actually change next year.
by Ryan21 on Jan 30, 2010 6:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
won't happen..
Management won’t let him be the DC after this past seasons debacle lol
by Pretender85 on Jan 31, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
doesnt mean that he hires a DC for anything more than to fill a void
and still run it himself
Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou
WHAT THE?
I’m a die hard fan of the Bears and have been so mad since Lovie decided to fire the wrong Ron. I always thought Turner was a terrible coach and play caller all QB’s under him look bad look at the history in ints. Orton threw for less ints. than Cutler this year funny. Since the Bears fired Rivera their D has not lived up to their stadards funny. I just have one thing to say to Lovie is to lose your old ways and develope new ones because teams figured you out the Tampa 2 doesn’t work. Also, his friends that have coached with him in the past are not doeing that well or just the ones that are availible.
Well Lovie
will tell you that cover 2 teams not only made the playoffs but deep into the playoffs (vikes, and colts) so the cover 2 is still a Super Bowl defense……
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 30, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
That's what people conveniently choose to ignore
It’s not dated, nor is it an ineffective scheme. The Bears players/coaches haven’t been up to par for three years now. A better name for their version of the defense is a attacking, one-gap 4-3 system.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
If you have the "quality" players
you can run the scheme (any scheme really)….Problem is the Bears D players at this point are not that great (outside of Briggs)……
Another thing to note (from reading/stories on the defenses) is that the vikings and colts have “tweaked” their cover 2 schemes and implemented other aspects to improve on it….the Bears have not…..Not yet anyways…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 30, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
It’s the stubbornness of thinking you can simply slot in “X” to replace Urlacher – when the Mike position in our scheme is based around unique Urlacher’s mobility to get into that zone sitting just in front of the safeties – that surprised me this past season. Hillenmeyer may have the intelligence and experience to call the defensive plays from there, but he lacks the sheer athleticism. Williams seems to have the athleticism but lacks the experience and game nous. There must have been a way to adjust the scheme to the players?
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
"I don’t care if Belichick wins twenty Super Bowls. He’s an asshole." - Da Coach
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
briggs?
What did Briggs do this year to indicate that he should be omitted from the group of “not that great”? All this year did was to show how much they missed Urlacher on the defensive side of the ball. Briggs was simply the best available player on a weak defensive team. Nothing more. He didn’t show the ability to motivate or carry the defense on his shoulders. I agree with Spongie and his observations concerning the Mike.
"I am not an animal!" - Merrick
that is true, to a point, but when Urlacher went out we lost our leader on defense
I was hoping that Briggs would step up but he didnt. He was the best player on the field but when the opportunity for him to Lead the defense came he didnt do it.
when we lost Urlacher
it showed even more how important Mike Brown was to the defense as well. Urlacher and Brown were the leaders of the defenese in many ways
Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou
those teams have something the Bears dont
high octane offenses
Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou
That was a great read.
Thanks for the link and that would be great if things don’t come together this upcoming season. Rivera was a great player and a great DC for us. He has learned the 3-4 scheme in San Diego and has only gotten smarter as a coach. If things don’t work out for us next season, it sounds like he would love to come back. I would love for that to happen.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 30, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
i dont know if I agree 100%
Erik Kramer was not bad under him. Turner was only able to coach what he was handed by Lovie and the gang of misfits. Turner is not the one who decided Orlando Pace should be run out there for far too long. Turner didnt decide that we didnt need a WR with experience. I am also sure Turner was told to throw the ball 4:1 verse running the ball. It is not Turner’s fault that Cutler felt the need to try and press some passes where there was nothing open. The hate on Turner is hilarious IMHO. He was nothing more than a mercy killing to save face by Lovie, who is the true problem.
Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou
biggs
also mentioned that martz is the leader but anything can happen….though I do not know if he was just repeating Pompeis feel on it or if it was his reaction……
Pompei and Biggs also think the search is pretty much done for the OC…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
take a shot
id take a shot at rodgers…good balance of run and pass… plus a good opportunity for an OC job.. i respect martz but no more retreads.. lets try someone new and rodgers also has worked with favre who has a similar style to cutler and is not afraid to get in someones face if they screw up!!
I agree
not to mention that rogers come from a similar offensive system that Cutler is some what familiar with while martz offensive scheme might be completely foreign to Cutler and could take more than one season for that offense to click…..and that is time Lovie and Angelo do not have….which probably means martz will be the hire….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 30, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
Jim Zorn is now off the table as well.
He was hired to replace the Ravens’ QB coach, who we also didn’t hire.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
Where's the proof?
There might be a mystery candidate the club is exploring.
Why disclose or make aware of other candidates, but not a mystery one?
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
All right I confess,
it’s me. I haven’t granted an interview yet but my phone keeps ringing off the hook and my agent is driving me nuts. But given the shaky job security at Halas Hall I really need to be careful about leaving my current job as a teacher so I am carefully weighing my options. I’ll let you know when I come to a decision.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Being a teacher...
you are already one step ahead of RT.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 30, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Recent Zaidman Tweets:
It’s OK if you don’t like Martz, but tell me who else you would rather have that is available right now. Don’t be negative to be negative.
No guarantee Martz equals success for Bears, but tough to argue the Bears trying to hire the most accomplished candidate available
I find it hard to believe the possible addition of Martz to a staff that already includes Tice would make the Bears offense worse
I believe OC will happen very soon. Sense of urgency is high.
@ZachZaidman what happened to Rogers I thought he interviewed well. Is he out of the running?→No. He’s still in the mix.
@ZachZaidman Sun-Times website reporting Martz flew down to TN to meet with Cutler today—>Good. Time to get familiar
@ZachZaidman Cutler may not have choice in matter. He did in the beginning, but now down to select few→His input does matter
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
Thanks for the update
With Tice and Martz, it’s like the Yin-yang theory. Hopefully, they can balance each other out and make this offense tick.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Thats an interesting thought....
wonder who would call the overall Offensive game plan if they do go with Tice as run coordinator and martz as passing coordinator…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 30, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
I cannot recall a report
of Cutler meeting with Rogers anywhere….I know he interviewed but that was only with Angelo and Lovie…..Think that might mean something….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 30, 2010 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
Rogers...
Bears, Cutler Huddle With Rogers
Rogers actually did meet with Cutler. Link above…….
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
I've seen Martz in action...
down here in STL. I just do not see his mentality/philosophy working well with Cutler. Nor do I see the personnel on this roster to execute Martz’s offensive philosophy. The o-line is slow off the LOS and doesn’t hold their blocks well. Cutler is not a Warner-style, timing, in-the-pocket passer. The WRs do not run great routes, adjust their routes well, aggressively fight for the ball, or read defensive alignments well. The only thing that works in Martz’s style is Forte, who I often compare to Westbrook or a Faulk-type understudy. I guess the Bears could have a major change in personnel or add a number of FAs, but that doesn’t seem likely. Unless Martz has a drastic change of personality, he’ll end up as more of a cancer than a cure!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
If Martz fails and we have another bad year...
Then Lovie will be let go and we’ll have a high draft pick for ’11.
by boondock_saint812 on Jan 30, 2010 9:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Lovie's ace in the hole for DC? Bob Babich!!!
After all, he has DC experience, right? And he’s spent the past season watching the master.
oooohh.....is that an aneurysm I feel coming on?
God, I hope you’re joking…..
Some days it's not worth chewing through the restraints - T-Train.
Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity. And I am not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.
It doesn't matter...
who coordinates the offense or defense. Being a Bears fan these days is like a prison sentence. One more year and we get our pardon from the death by Lovie injection.
by Big Ike on Jan 30, 2010 10:44 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
What's the rush?
Our Bears will find their man (I hope it’s Mike Martz) before March 4.
So why are you guys peeing in your knickers?
What the !@#?
Thanks for the link and that would be great if things don’t come together this upcoming season. Rivera was a great player and a great DC for us. He has learned the 3-4 scheme in San Diego and has only gotten smarter as a coach. If things don’t work out for us next season, it sounds like he would love to come back. I would love for that to happen.
by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Jan 30, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Bears fan 4-ever?
If Your a true fan, why would you say “that would be great if things don’t come together this season”? That’s the most insane thing I’ve heard from someone that claims to be a fan. WHOEVER they hire I want it to work out because I love the BEARS. True fans will root for the Bears through thick and thin and not root for their failure!
Bear Down!
From the Suntimes today
Vikings quarterbacks coach Kevin Rogers remains a strong candidate after impressing many within the organization, even though sources claim Martz is coach Lovie Smith’s top choice. Another source called the process ‘’complicated,’’ fanning speculation that there might be a level of disagreement between Smith and general manager Jerry Angelo on the subject of Martz……
Rogers, who interviewed Thursday at Halas Hall, one day before Martz, is a proponent of the West Coast offense, which is what Cutler has played his entire pro career. Since former Bears offensive coordinator Ron Turner ran a similar system, the team’s personnel might better fit Rogers’ schemes, which may be a factor in Rogers’ favor in what looks like a two-horse race……
Martz’s offense employs more deep drops, meaning the right tackle must be the equivalent of a left tackle. Do the Bears have two starting left-tackle candidates on their roster? Until former first-round pick Chris Williams moved from right tackle to left late in the season, it didn’t appear that the Bears had one…….
Reducing Cutler’s league-high 26 interceptions is a top priority for the new coordinator.
It has been reported on the score, CTL, and ESPN1000 that Lovie hired shea and he failed. So Angelo, at the behest of the mccaskeys, forced ron turner upon Lovie…..IIRC it was reported on the score at the end of 08 Lovie wanted to fire turner but Angelo said if he fired turner that babich also must be fired….Lovie balked and turner stayed….
Now I think what you have here is Lovie wanting “his guy” martz and Angelo knowing that his job is also on the line giving his input on who should be next but last time Angelo gave his vote it was for turner….So now there is a I guess you can say animosity on this situation….
Cutler my be the deciding factor….But I get the feeling that Lovie wants martz no matter what Cutler says…..
Now I think it is pretty obvious that regardless that martz being the more qualified candidate do the Bears have the personnel to run his offense….IMO they do not especially along the o line….Lovie and Angelo do not have time…..Although I guess Lovie could come back at the end of the season and say “we did not have the personnel to run our offense” as yet another excuse to stay should they endure another losing season and praying for one more shot…..Heck maybe thats why he wants martz….It gives him another excuse should they have another losing season….
And if “toning down” Cutler is a priority for the Bears and given that martz offenses avg around 22 – 23 INTs WITHOUT “gunslinger” QBs one can only imagine how many INTs Cutler would throw in martz’s offense…
While rogers maybe “green” as an OC and not as qualified the Bears at least would be running an offense that is not completely foreign to Cutler and the rest of the Bears offensive players…..and that those players might be better suited to win right away than having to learn a completely new system and hope to win…..
So I guess it comes down to who has more clout or say in the matter….Lovie cause he picks his coaches ? Angelo cause his job is on the line ? Cutler because he will be running the offense next season ? Will they come together and agree on a person collectively?
So in saying all that it all comes down to this….This organization is a mess in its current state…..
Note: Though lately Cutler seems to be getting hammered in the media about his involvement with the OC hire. Even though aikman was in on norv turner being hired and big ben saved his OC job this year even though management wanted to fire him. Bears might have taken some power away from Cutler…..
My bet is martz is hired tonight thanks to Lovie pushing for him (according to various insiders around the internets)….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
Good post
I agree with most of your points.
Another consideration for you though: What do Ted and the McCaskey’s want?
Answer: They want asses in the seats, cars in the parking lots and beer and brats in the bellies.
Who is more likely to give them that?
The guy who ran probably the highest powered, most entertaining offense of his generation coupled with the ultimate gun slinger? Or, another QB coach turned OC who runs the same west coast offense we have been seeing for years?
Right. Martz will sell tickets and if he succeeds with Cutler it’ll be the Greatest Show on Mud and if he fails, they’ll all be gone anyway.
Ah good point
It is thought that mike mccaskey forced turner upon Angelo and Lovie….I can see them siding with Lovie on martz…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 31, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like this could be the 1st time Lovie and JA disagree
Could their perfect marriage be falling apart?
"My ficas tree could call plays better than Ron Turner." - My Dad
by GallopingGhost on Jan 31, 2010 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Good update
but this line is a stretch….
Heck maybe thats why he wants martz….It gives him another excuse should they have another losing season….
Why would Lovie want to set himself up for another failure? He’s trying to right the ship, not sink it.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Just spouting
frustration on my part…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 31, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
Media - All OC
Why hasn’t there been any discussion about DC candidates in the media lately? Besides the obvious that there’s been no real activity with regards to a DC – what’s up?
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
Accoring to Pompei and Biggs on CTL
Fewell was on top of Lovies list but when he went to the giants there were no readily available candidates…….So they decided to focus on the OC first then focus on DC…..
The only real news concerning the DC is that marinilli saying he would be DC if Lovie asked…and Dickerson saying on ESPN 1000 that Hoke might be a DC candidate because he has had experience as a DC when he was the DC at FL……
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 31, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
Are the Bears fit for the spread offense?
With 0 talented WR’s (my apologies to Aromashodu.) The Bears don’t have the personnel to play 3-4 WR’s deep over the course of a game. And without 1st or 2nd round picks, they may not be able to even address the need. (Signing TO would be the worst mistake ever..)
Did you guys read this latest post on PFT?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/31/smith-has-wanted-martz-from-day-one/
Wow for the longest time i thought they were just doing there due diligence, but i geuss not. These 2 guys are clownes(JA and LS) and need to be ran out of town. The horrid condition of this team is a shame and will only continue on until we get them out of here. WHAT A JOKE!
Was just about to post this
Looks like martz will be hired tonight I guess….Unless Cutler speaks up and says rogers….even then I think Lovie will force martz down Cutlers throat…..
martz might be more qualified but the Bears do not have the personnel to run his offense….and its not like that FA and draft picks are going to appear out of thin air….
If martz is hired Im thinking 5-11 or 6-10 with 25-30 INTs for Cutler….
Gotta love the current state of the Bears…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 31, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Ops made a mistake
not if martz is hired WHEN…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 31, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
So here is my question.
Will Cutler be a able to rebound from another 25+ int year, or will his confidence just be shattered?
Dunno
but I dont think Lovie might care cause after that he is gone…Unless he convinces the mccaskeys that he did not have the proper personnel to run the new offense….which could happen since he sort of hinted at not having the proper personnel to win towards the end of this season…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 31, 2010 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Oh one thing will be for sure
the NFL “experts” will start calling Cutler a bust/Coach killer/the new jeff george/etc after calling him the next big thing…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 31, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Mortensen on ESPN
states the Bears will offer the job to martz today….
Another suppose Bears insider from another chat/forum (he/she is supposedly trusted there. They knew the Bears offered a trade for Cutler and what package I guess before the trade happened, Lovie being safe after the vikings win, training camp cuts, among other things I guess) is saying that the Bears have offered martz the job and are working on a 2 year contract…..
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
God damnit.
This sucks. Seriously, I have heard all the merits, pros-cons, but seriously unless he changes his formula and goes with a more run-oriented attack I do not see this working out well for the Bears.
I expect steps back for OIsen and Forte and I bet by week 8 Cutler takes a shot at the play-calling.
"My ficas tree could call plays better than Ron Turner." - My Dad
by GallopingGhost on Jan 31, 2010 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
this completely sucks
i see nothing but down hill from here.
Sxrew that the bears suck, next. GO BLACKHAWKS! Spring training starts in February and Arena Football is coming back too. YAY!!!!!!!!!
by pierzynskirules on Jan 31, 2010 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
ok wait a second I'm a little confused
WHY would they offer Martz a 2 yr contract when the HC only has a yr left. If it doesnt work out and they clean house the next HC is going to want to pick their own OC and they’ll need to pay off Martz. Just doesnt make any sense to me.
Incorrect
Lovie has 2 years left 2010 and 2011….IF Lovie does not make the playoffs everyone assumes he will be fired….Thus most people assume that the Bears can not win since they have many holes and do not have the players to win next year…..So many people equate that to Lame duck season in 2010 should they not win….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 31, 2010 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
Another note
no coach will sign a 1 year deal….Pompei thinks that one reason bates chose to go to seattle is that Bears told him they would only offer him a 2 year deal and he got 3 or 4 yrs in seattle….
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...."
- Jay Cutler to Ron Turner during the season
by CloudyFuture on Jan 31, 2010 10:00 PM CST up reply actions

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