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Hey all. It's a pre-game Friday here. Keep an eye out around lunchtime for Five Questions with Big  Blue View, this afternoon for the game preview, and always here for any breaking news.

Smith always holds players accountable - Yeah, ok. So Orlando Pace kept playing why?

Chicago Bears' Tommie Harris talks about benching vs. Green Bay Packers - He's saying more of the right things, having chosen not to take the Devin Aromashodu path.

Bears' Hester on right path - A path of TOTAL DOMINATION. Or at least, above average play.

Follow WCG on Twitter. If you don't, we'll have Chris Harris and Julius Peppers come over and practice tackling with you. Which, while I realize that would be cool to have them come over, it wouldn't be as cool when they rupture all your internal organs because your normal human body can't handle it.

Star-divide

Defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli has put his stamp on Chicago Bears - If you get the stamp on your left hand, you can get back in the bar without paying the cover again..

Chicago Bears: Chicago Bears cornerback Zack Bowman takes high road on getting benched Monday night - Sorta. Again, better than DA

VIDEO: Urlacher wants Bears to stay 'hungry' - Perhaps they should eat some honey, or steal sandwiches from pick-a-nick baskets.

Bears' Angelo: Playing time has 'got to be earned' - Unless you're given a big contract. Then you're allowed to fail for a while until you get hurt, or someone else's job comes up on the line.

In the calm of his hands - This team is chill. And getting the job done.

Harris, Smith sure can play dodge y'all - I'll be honest, I didn't read this one. 

Lesson so far: There are no easy pickings - Well, we do get to play the Bills

Chicago Bears defensive tackle Tommie Harris doesn't want trade; sources say he's likely to play Sunday. - Hopefully it was the shot in the arm he needs. This game could be a chance to show that he's got his head on right.

Rookie OL Webb getting his chance - He's big. Can Tice make him good?

Coughlin, Giants look for answers - Let's not give them the confidence they need.

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Where Kev H is above posting the daily quote

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 1, 2010 8:19 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Bears Den

where the reviewers of the games are actually watching this year.

by jimribs on Oct 1, 2010 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

You want a quote?

Here you go, from the 1995 classic “Showgirls”:

There’s always someone younger and hungrier coming down the stairs after you.

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

Writer at windycitygridiron.com {-/-} http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Oct 1, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

ahh Jesse Spano

your feminist views changed radically when you were cast as a stripper.

by jimribs on Oct 1, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 1, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

and my

view of Saved by the Bell was never the same again. And I wasn’t complaining.

by Virto on Oct 1, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I own all of the original Saved By the Bell and The College Years.

But not the new class. It blows. And not Good Morning, Miss Bliss, because I’ve never actually seen them in a store.

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

Writer at windycitygridiron.com {-/-} http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Oct 1, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

one of those shows

I was embarassed to watch, yet still did.

by jimribs on Oct 1, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

nice...

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 1, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bears Den...

where are internal organs are safe, so long as Peppers and Harris are miles away.

Kev- you made my morning with that line.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 1, 2010 8:25 AM CDT reply actions  

we all remember what happened the

last time DA bears payed the g men on a sunday night .

Devin hester had a spectacular return.

107 yards i beleive

by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 1, 2010 8:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Now Lovie wants to be "tough"

on under-performing players. He says benching Tommy isn’t personal, he’s just not performing as well as we’d like. Where was this zero tolerence approach when Grossman was stinking up the joint?

by Big Ike on Oct 1, 2010 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

and where was this approach when...

Mark Anderson was handed the DE job over Alex Brown
Thomas Jones was behind Benson
Rashied Davis was dropping passes like they were hot potatoes
Jason McKie was stopped at 30 inches when they needed a yard

It’s a good thing he’s finally taking this approach but to try to make us believe it’s always been that way….

As the wisest man once said “Who ya crappin’?”

by BearFan611 on Oct 1, 2010 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rex is our quarterback

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 1, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

He has made more moves

than Jauron did through all those years, but that isn’t say much anything

by jimribs on Oct 1, 2010 9:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Fixed this.
Defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli has put his stamp on Chicago Bears – If you get the stamp on your left hand, you can get back in the bar without paying the cover covering anyone again..

Seriously, love the wins, but our secondary needs to start doing something PRE-catch to go with the awesome POST-catch hits and strips.

by Brendan Hess on Oct 1, 2010 9:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh

You mean they’re not suppose to let the WR’s and TE’s catch the ball?

by Digs D-League on Oct 1, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

ha

Too true.

Plus, I think they’ve all gotten (not just our defense, but defensive players in general) too in love with the big hit and lost the art of tackling. I mean, hits are awesome but I’d rather see the guy get stopped than just whacked.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 1, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly...

Whacking the guy so hard his helmet pops off is a thing, but sometimes, preventing that first down is kinda critical too. Just a bit.

by Steven Schweickert on Oct 1, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone else but me a little nervous about Sunday Night?

I don’t think we want to wake the sleeping Giants. They do have the second highest paid QB in the league (tongue is in cheek).

Our guys stills have some things to prove, but I believe we are headed in the right direction.

Do the Giants have a pass rush?

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 1, 2010 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

The Giants

Have a very solid front four.

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

Writer at windycitygridiron.com {-/-} http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Oct 1, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's starting to look

like one of those seasons where every game comes down to the last few minutes, so every game seems scary to me.

by jimribs on Oct 1, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not worried at all.

The Giants D isn’t any better than Dallas or Green Bay.

by boondock_saint812 on Oct 1, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

A pass rush is about ALL the Giants have

their secondary is sorta slow and their LBs miss Pierce a lot.

But their down 4 is full of talent.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 1, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Strange Product of the Week?

Gotta love the enthusiasm, but burnt toast taste, yummo!?!

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by David Taylor on Oct 1, 2010 9:57 AM CDT reply actions  

I wants me one....

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Oct 1, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I want one with Ditka on it.

So I can finally know the answer to the eternal question:’ Could Ditka toast bread so hot, that even he couldn’t appear on it?’

Don't worry Boys, we'll weather this storm of approval, and come out as hated as ever.

by BabylonDon on Oct 1, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's funny...

I hope that Eli doesn’t have one. I’d hate to see him making Bears toast for three hours Sunday evening.

What's that? Ah -- Playoffs? Don't talk about -- playoffs?! You kidding me?! Playoffs?! - Jim Mora

by Scully85 on Oct 1, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Burns on one go?

NICE.

The last 3 toasters I’ve tried are all like “safety toasters” and don’t even look browned until the 3rd go around.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 1, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Was this gift

given to all the Bears defensive backs?

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 1, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I really hope Tommie can be effective once again.

Maybe his trade value goes up.

You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.

by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 1, 2010 9:58 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

ESPN

I love the current picture on ESPN’s NFL homepage.

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Jay looks calm and cool (considering our OL I don’t see how). And then we have Eli..who looks like he’s about this shit himself.

by boondock_saint812 on Oct 1, 2010 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Fail!

…who looks like he’s about to shit himself.

by boondock_saint812 on Oct 1, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eli is severly overrated

hasn’t been a guy who rode the cottails of a sibling like that since Casey Urlacher

by jimribs on Oct 1, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's a good QB...

even back when he was at Ole Miss, he has always done well in the right situations. He is a classic pro-style pocket passer with a good instincts, and actually pretty accurate. Eli is also very intelligent.

His downfall is that he is only an average passer, and struggles when he doesn’t have time in the pocket to digest and deliver.

by Dane Noble on Oct 1, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

being a good passer

is kinda important in that “quarterback” position they’ve installed in the NFL.

by jimribs on Oct 1, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I always thought that he's benefited

from the type of receivers he’s had. Accurate is one thing, having Buress, Toomer, and David Tyree make great catches is another. I think if his name was Eli Smith and played in Cleveland, we’d look at him differently. The one thing I don’t like about him and think isn’t spoke about enough is his demeanor. Maybe it’s just how he looks but they talk about Jay’s body language, Eli’s is worse to me.

Yeah but it worked!

by Dils on Oct 1, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let's be honest

Tyree made ONE great catch, and then was cut shortly thereafter

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 1, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah but point is that it

was a great catch, not so much a great throw by Manning.

Yeah but it worked!

by Dils on Oct 1, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe the throw wasn't great

but getting out of that sack and making ANYTHING happen was pretty ballsy

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 1, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets be honest that drive down the field in the SB

was one of the greatest ever. he is about a top 10 QB in the league right now.

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 2, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

See, I agree. He's average/above average.

Like not one you’re constantly clamoring about replacing. But, with my experience with giants fans here (on BBW), and elsewhere, it seems that they’re unrealistic on number 10. Out of that QB class of 04, he’s still the worst of the 3.

Which means that… he’s in the top half of QB’s in the NFL right now, and thus, pretty average insofar as quarterbacks go. I do agree though that he’s been masked by having a power running game and a solid defense, and the ability to make most plays with his arm. Carrying an offense? I’m not sold on Eli for that reason.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Oct 1, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Being the worst of that 3 isn't bad.

I’d probably put him ahead of Rivers though, mostly because Rivers reminds me of every guy I’ve ever hated.

I think Eli gets a LOT more crap than he deserves. Put him in any other city and he’s a king.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 1, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, it's not that bad.

Because all three of them are in the top half of the league in my book. But, maybe we just have very different view on how he’s perceived.

I tend to pooh-pooh him because he’s rather inaccurate, a bit slow in making decisions, a statue in the pocket… and that for quite a few years, he was only a DECENT qb with an above average surrounding cast. Like, Mark Sanchez. He’s playing at a better level now than he ever has, but… I don’t really know that in other situations, in other cities, he would have performed like he did in new york… (i mean, he would have done well in SD too, i think) but, really, that year… i don’t know exactly what the cardinals were thinking (well, the bidwell’s aren’t that good at that), but, if eli did happen to land in arizona in 2004… how would you feel about his chances there?

see, i smell bust at that point in the time…

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Oct 1, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I heard an interview with one of the NY writers earlier in the week and he said Eli as actually playing pretty well and that 3 of his 5 picks were right off the hands of his receivers and not his fault. I think he gets a bad rap because of who his brother is.

I remember what the expectations of Eddie Payton were when he played a short time for the Bears. Not that he was a great player by any standard, but being Walter’s brother, he had no shot at all.

by BearFan611 on Oct 1, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

found this funny because my wife says essentially the same thing. she has mentioned to me before that if she could punch him in the face she would do so. for some reason that really, really cracks me up.

I’d probably put him ahead of Rivers though, mostly because Rivers reminds me of every guy I’ve ever hated.

by reefermadness3 on Oct 1, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

the mannings

could be the smartest rocket scientists on earth, but their accents makes them sound like hillwilliams.

by jimribs on Oct 1, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I remember very well the day I was judged by my accent,

and it is not a very strong accent at all…

I had just met the hiring manager, and was getting ready to interview for a job. After a couple of minutes of small talk (and watching him seem disgusted by the way I spoke), he mysteriously had an emergency phone call, and would have to reschedule the interview. Of course, he never called back.

It was very hurtful to me at the time, as I was a young manager trying to get my foot into the corporate world, and I wondered if I was always going to encounter that challenge.

Fortunately, he was in a very small minority, and I have had nothing but success in my profession since then; we can only hope that we continue to grow into a culture that is more open and accepting of others who may not look and sound exactly like we do.

by Dane Noble on Oct 1, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

in all honesty

If i had judged them based on the fact they play a sport for a team I don’t like (which people do routinely on these things) would that be a better reason? I have friends and family with southern accents, I give the occasional grief, but I don’t have any ill-will towards someone based on how they talk, look, or smell.

by jimribs on Oct 1, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

…would that be a better reason?

I don’t follow… a better reason for what?

by Dane Noble on Oct 1, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m glad you’re such a great human
we all are.

I have no idea what that means, or how to respond to it. Perhaps you could provide a bit of clarity.

by Dane Noble on Oct 1, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh god!

You have one me those crazy louisiana bostonian accents, don’t you?

You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.

by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 1, 2010 11:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hahaha.

I dated a gal from south Louisiana in college, and her parents both had the cajun/new yorker accent thing going.

Very weird indeed.

by Dane Noble on Oct 1, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

You should go back and kick his ass

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 1, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Webb's got the genes!

Give him a shot.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Oct 1, 2010 10:33 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

A story that's kinda gotten lost this week...

Is anyone aware of how good of a year Knox is having? Yes we need to get him in the endzone but he has quietly gotten better each week. I know it’s still early but he on pace for a 1200+ yard season.

Yeah but it worked!

by Dils on Oct 1, 2010 11:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Another story that's been lost..

is Mannely’s record setting game last week. 192

by boondock_saint812 on Oct 1, 2010 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Another Lost Story

What a year Brad Maynard is having. I have been a fan of the Maynard for a long time. I think that he is a fantastic punter. I wish that he would get more credit. I think that he has only shanked 1 this year that I saw. He did a great job vs. the pack. This was a sick game for him. Not so hot vs. Dallas, But hey every one has a bad game here and there

PS. Eli Manning’s face looks like he is pooping when he makes a bad throw.

In the words of John Madden," If the receiver catches the ball in the end zone it results in a touchdown".

Go Bears
Big Tone
D- Town MN

by fatherkrime on Oct 1, 2010 11:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Both Maynard and Robbie have upped their game.

But how about that kid punting for GB. He’s got a major leg (and subsequently outkicked his coverage.)

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Oct 1, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ball State's Greatest NFL Player!

Maynard FTW!

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Oct 1, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes. Deep in the playbook. The QB sneak:

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Oct 1, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Goal Line Options

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Oct 1, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

rec

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 1, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

?

Must be your computer.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Oct 1, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

DaHamstra going crazy right now..

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Oct 1, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

If he’s the only one that can read the play selection, he’s the only one suited for goal line duty, Mini-Me size be damned!

by Steven Schweickert on Oct 1, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Oct 1, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

As long as he can get in

Maybe that’s why Forte seems to be allergic to the endzone.

by DaHamsta on Oct 1, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 2, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another lost story...

Everybody knows how Tomlin looks like Omar Epps. Nobody talks about how Lovie looks like Paul Mooney.

You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.

by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 1, 2010 12:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

paul mooney!!!

negrodamus had some funny lines back a few years ago.

by reefermadness3 on Oct 1, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chappelle's Show was the best sketch show ever.

I’m hoping Nick Swardson’s new show will be half as funny. If it is, I’ll be happy.

WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!

by Acreman20 on Oct 1, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love Nick Swardson's stuff.

And everything in the commercials looks totally absurd. Can’t wait.

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

Writer at windycitygridiron.com {-/-} http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Oct 2, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Big fan of Swardson's as well.

The show looks extremely retarded, I’m looking forward to it. Ya shit’s weak!!!

WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!

by Acreman20 on Oct 2, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is the guy from Grandma’s boy right? if so I agree

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 2, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

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