Notes, Scribbles, and Things Jotted Down: Panthers Edition
Over the past two games, the Chicago Bears have acquired just 165 yards passing, and thrown 6 interceptions, with no passing touchdowns.
Oh yeah, they're also in sole possession of first place in the NFC North, with a solid looking but scarily attained 4-1 record. Welcome to the 2010 NFL Season.
The Bears were able to get exactly what they needed this week. They were in dangerous territory--coming off a big loss, they were on the road against a hungry team. However, they set the tone early, and this game was over in the first quarter.
I will always take a 62 yard return to open a game. Always. D. Manning beasted on the three kickoff returns he got, averaging 44 yards with a long of 62.
Matt Forte turned it on early. Imagine this: getting the ball outside to him quickly on the little flips and tosses works. Running him up the middle doesn't. Wonder if we might see more of those types of plays.
That said, Collins had 16 passing attempts. 4 were interceptions, and 6 were completed. My question? Why did he have 16 attempts? Carolina had not yet proven they could really stop the run.
There was a lot of calling for Collins being benched before the game even started, and he did nothing to prove those folks wrong. He should not have started the second half. Many teams who got his three first quarter interceptions would have turned them, at least, into field goals. I'd look for Hanie to be the 2nd Quarterback for the rest of the season, with Collins behind him.
I mentioned this on the 4th quarter thread under the table, and someone pointed it out in the post game thread, but seriously, why was Jay Cutler's tshirt so ridiculously huge? Did he borrow it from Julius Peppers?
The new right end of the line seemed to perform alright. Perhaps this is the grouping we can push forward with over the next few weeks, so there's some form of cohesion going into the second half of the season.
There was a time, I dunno if you heard about it, that Julius Peppers played for the Panthers. He played inspired ball today, not hitting the sack column, but he got a quarterback hit, and talk about hitting the INT column. Tips it to himself turns around, dives and catches. I'll take that. Additionally he set the stage for...
IZZY! DaHamsta's, I believe, second favorite player blew up today. 3 sacks for 19 yards, FF. Part of the point of bringing Peppers in was to free up the other end, and that sure worked today.
The Panthers receivers were young, and so was their quarterback. The secondary didn't have too much to contend with today.
However, the ease with which the Panthers ran at first was worrisome. For now, I'm going to pretend the drive was just the Bears "seeing what was up", as it were.
Not to let it go unnoticed--the Panthers punted it nine times. Hester got 3 return attempts. I know you're saying "But Kev, those numbers don't match." To that I say, Hester's influence on punting strategy has obviously returned. The Panthers tried to kick away from him every time, including the one that 23 grabbed from over the sideline and brought back. If he hadn't tried to go cute on the punter, he probably would've had the touchdown.
ROBBIE FREAKIN' GOULD - Yeah, he kicked a career high 53 yard field goal--with a few yards to spare. No big deal, that's just how he rolls.
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In short, this was not the prettiest of games, but it was what the Bears needed. A road win that wasn't in danger, and sparks in a few places. Enjoy it today, because tomorrow starts preparation for an up and down Seahawks team that just got a new toy and is coming off the bye week.
Big thing there? Seahawks haven't won a road game. Yet.
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Couple more notes:
• As much as I like him, Tillman’s very close to being done, if he’s not already.
• As much as I can’t stand him, Josh Bullocks made a beast ST’s tackle that probably saved a TD.
• Corey Wootton made a really nice play, on his first ever NFL snap.
• People were praising Carolina’s kicking game, but line drives to both Hester and Knox?
• Why do players celebrate tackles and first downs when their team is losing, mightily.
• A month for Breast Cancer Awarness, and NFL players wearing pink? It’s not the 70’s anymore, people are pretty aware.
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Why hate on the breast cancer awareness?
I for one like it. Mad props to the guys willing to deck themselves out in pink and maybe looking a little silly vs those guys who are just too cool to wear any pink.
by lopey986 on Oct 11, 2010 9:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It's not just about awareness,
its about fundraising for research. I saw a scary stat the other day: 25 years ago, an average of 110 women died of breast cancer every day in America. Today, billions of dollars of research later (and 25 years of national “awareness”), an average of 110 women die every day of breast cancer.
Not agreeing/disagreeing with either you or David, but there is always a different point of view out there. There is another group, National Breast Cancer Coalition, who are aggressively fighting not to raise money or awareness, but to use the exsisting technology and research to actually cure and/or find an end to breast cancer. In other words, they’re saying that it’s either time to sh*t or to get off the pot.
Cure...
That’s progression that I’ll stand firmly behind. And it’s not as if I’m totally against making people aware (even if I think the majority of people are now) or the research that comes with it. I just find issue that an NFL season is 16 games, and 1/4 of those are with players dressed in pink. It’s not the only disease that people should to be aware of.
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
not to mention
couldn’t all that money being spent on Pink equipment, be donated directly to the cause?
by jimribs on Oct 11, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great Point,
I’m all for the awareness and the research, but the ad campaign must be incredibly expensive.
At the end,
the pink equipment is auctioned off for charity, usually signed by the player that wore them.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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by Ashley Czuba on Oct 11, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
+1 I don't wanna say it gets on my nerves
but, a whole month in pink? maybe a game or something, but what about other cancers, or AIDS awareness… either you’re all in, or you’re not…IMO
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 11, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Wearing pink does not seem to bother the players
but a few little men here seem to find it intimidating. Weak.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Oct 11, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
like the Bears
last week
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 11, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
The Bears wore pink last week
but Jay didn’t. Thus why he was concussed. Karma.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Oct 11, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
there was an article written about
none of the bears wearing pink, could be wrong though
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 11, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I would think so
Given that Greg Olsen is a crazy huge breast cancer awareness supporter. Plus I saw them wearing pink.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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You got me
It states that Cutler and the Oline didn’t wear pink, I can’t speak to anyone else
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 11, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
During the beginning of the game
they showed Julius wearing a pink headband and other Bears had some too on the sidelines.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Oct 11, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought Peppers had a black headband on.
During the coin toss. I could be wrong.
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty positive it was pink.
Can’t prove it though, I can’t find video.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Oct 11, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
It matters not.
But I’ll look it up on Game Rewind tomorrow. It’s down during live (MNF) broadcasts.
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
or a dead on response to an ignorant comment
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Oct 11, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you are being a bit hyperbolic.
Assumption: It does not bother the players
Generalization: A few people here find it intimidating.
Borderline insulting: A few little men here.
For the record,
I wear pink all the time.
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm wearing pink underwear as we speak.
For awareness.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Pink and brown
is not an attractive combo.
by Arbusto on Oct 11, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually,
pink and brown is a popular color combo… lol
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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by Ashley Czuba on Oct 11, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
many of you are aware of my pink G string
…the tequila brought on the revelation
"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott
by Maelvampyre on Oct 11, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Fail
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 11, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't get "awareness" campaigns
Who’s not aware that cancer exists, or that it and any other disease is bad?
I don’t mind the pink in the slightest, but I’d rather the money be spent going towards research looking for a cure. It’s because of these big campaigns that often a lot of fundraisers don’t raise much money for the actual research but to cover the costs of the advertising (next time a telemarketer calls you saying they’re raising money for some cause or another, ask what % of your donation goes towards the actual cause, it’s going to be low).
PS. The ribbon logo behind the nfl logo on officials’ hats looks like the old school patriots logo (when not seen up close).
My husband said the same thing about the old-school pats logo!
I agreed after he pointed it out, but I’m kinda surprised to see someone else comment on it independently.
I need a new signature.
I said this up higher,
but the pink equipment is auctioned off and the money goes to the charities… so the money is going toward research… and hopefully more of it because people spend more money for their favorite team’s players’ autographs/gear.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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by Ashley Czuba on Oct 11, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Totally agree.
Had a conversation about this the other day with a couple of my buddies. I’m all for awareness and fund-raising for breast cancer, but all the pink gear is a little much IMO. Especially for the entire month of October.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
it's about political correctness at this point
"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott
by Maelvampyre on Oct 11, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
dumb comment
since when is raising money to fight breast cancer political correctness?
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Oct 11, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Since we all get it, and also because when one bucks a PC movement
…you get remarks like yours.
"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott
I'll see your non-PC comment, and raise you an even less PC comment.
I don’t give to the American Cancer Society (which is the one the NFL is teamed up with) for two reasons:
1. They grant money to Planned Parenthood. If I wanted to give my money to Planned Parenthood, I would write PP a check, not the American Cancer Society.
2. They spend a horrifying 20% of their intake on fundraising. That’s This, coupled with their operating expenses, earns them a One Star rating for organizational efficiency from Charity Navigator. One Star is: “Fails to meet industry standards and performs well below most charities in its Cause.” The only way they get an overall three star rating is because their tremendous size and growth brings up their average. (Link pops)
They spend very little of their Billion dollars raised annually on actual cancer research. There are better ways to help fight cancer.
And spending one fourth of the regular season in pink is too much. How about one game?
Maelvampyre and David Taylor, I’m on your side.
I need a new signature.
by juperee on Oct 11, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
oops
Should have deleted “That’s” in point number 2. But it’s over two hundred million bucks in fundraising expenses annually.
I need a new signature.
It's not unlike the United Way
UW is really pushed on employees of (major world telecom company, haha, I’m on a work IP) and if I recall correctly, they’re a for-profit company.
How does that work? I give you money so you can all make money, while giving away the leftovers to help people as an excuse to ask for more money. Once, a guest speaker for UW was one of my executives. She spoke of how great UW was, and how UW sent her son to summer camp. This is a six-figure exec, whose son has no disabilities or medical conditions, but went to summer camp for free…but I can barely make my rent.
I’m a big fan of spending the money on the research for the cure or treatment, not the printing of flyers to ask for more money.
Yep, United Way is a big culprit.
They take a big cut and filter down the rest to smaller charities, some of which aren’t very charitable or might even be objectionable to some donors.
I am attending my mandatory UW session at (large defense contractor) this Wednesday.
But I do love the “Charity Navigator” website. They help you find which charities are the real deal and which ones are wasteful.
I need a new signature.
Exactly
David Taylor’s post had one note too many. It’s not as if a cure has been found, so until there is a cure, keep the pressure on.
Kudos to the players, shame on you, Taylor.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Oct 11, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Smudgers wouldn't tolerate that behavior.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Haha.
Unlike Favre, I’m going soft in my old age.
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Then shame on me.
I just don’t think there should be an entire month dedicated to the awareness!
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
*an entire NFL month
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
How about an entire NFL month
where the awareness is towards different kinds of cancer each week or the top illnesses in the united states/ world? That would be alright with me but I’m cool with the breast cancer awareness.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Oct 11, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Considering that all the players are males and the audience is mostly male
Why not have a game with powder blue for prostate cancer awareness?
Kudos to Susan Komen, but I’m also starting to get tired of breast cancer being the “IT” cancer. I also like the HIV/AIDS awareness idea. Now we just need one more disease. Brain cancer? (especially with all the concussions?)
by wennington4 on Oct 12, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Fail, again
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 11, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
don't be so hard on yourself
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Oct 11, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
With a predominately male viewership
I wish they spent that time encouraging MEN to go to the doctor. Prostate Cancer is bad too. And so many men I know are afraid of the doctor. I wish the NFL used their pulpit to counter that fear.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Oct 11, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's a good one!
But what will we wear?
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
How about
“we’re #1” foam fingers covered with a latex glove?
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
by Pete Dixon on Oct 11, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
This deserves green!
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
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Or instead of that
I wish they’d embrace the purple campaign to stop bullying.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
if you visit the dailynorseman, you'll find plenty of purple
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 11, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
This should be bigger than team loyalty
Homophobia and general d#ckish behavior is killing people. And instead of talking about how much we all love boobies, professional sports leagues could do something about it.
But they don’t (and if they do, it goes in the opposite direction).
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
PROCTOBER!!!!!!
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 12, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
That wasn't Wooten's first snap
he was in earlier while Peppers got more air into his helmet.
That was just the first time the announcers saw him.
Didn't know that.
Good catch.
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Celebrating first downs
is out of control. These guys(Roy Williams etc.) enthusiastically celebrate first downs, even when losing by three scores or more. I guess when your team is not doing well, first downs feel like touchdowns to you.
Michael Crabtree
did it every time he touched the ball yesterday
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 11, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Michael Crabtree is a child.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 11, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
so is his coach
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Oct 11, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
good one
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 11, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Pink's pulling double duty
The pink is also part the NFL’s marketing push to grab a larger female audience. So gear in a “girlie” color that also happens to be the symbol for awareness of breast cancer = win-win.
The fools don’t realize they just have to consult GG on how to turn a woman into a football fan.
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Is my mind a'goin on me or am I watchin you jibber jabber like some sorta jibberty box. Jibber Jabber on! Jibber Jabber on! -- Early Cuyler
The fools don’t realize they just have to consult GG on how to turn a woman into a football fan.
Yes, but how is GG going to personally and individually romance every woman out there? The man’s gotta sleep, sometime!
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
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GG better not be
romancing ANY other women out there… or else there’ll be trouble… Lol.
No… really. :P
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by Ashley Czuba on Oct 11, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Definitely NOT happening
It was a miracle I did it once and I think that will stand.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Oct 12, 2010 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I think so too. :P
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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by Ashley Czuba on Oct 13, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Ditto Dave!
The guy is makin several million a year, but when he makes a tackle he dances around like he just discovered Penicillin!?!?
pbanachi
My thoughts:
- Izzy finally stepped up and delivered what we needed on the line – someone to take the sacks from the pressure that Peppers was delivering.
- Nice work on the INTs by Urlacher and Peppers, but come on guys, you got shown up by an Illini D-Lineman on Saturday. At least run it back for a TD or something. Yes, I’m being facetious.
- Forte finally had an “Eff you, I’m making this my play” type of play. He finally looked really really good with a little space.
- Bench Collins last Saturday. That is all.
- Clausen looked mildly overwhelmed. And you know what you have in Moore, at this point it couldn’t hurt them to put their other rook Pike in at QB for a game or two.
- But Pike would’ve been drilled by Izzy too.
- Briggs going down is scary, but hopefully he’s back next week.
- So much for all that NFC North QB depth? Stafford, shoulder, Cutler, concussion, Rodgers, concussion, Favre,
shame and overcompensationsuspension pending. And we go to Hill, Flynn,QuinnCollins, and T-Jack. Mother of Ditka.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 11, 2010 8:47 AM CDT reply actions
I really didn't have a problem with the number of pass attempts...
when Martz’, who I’ve been critical of in the past, started passing the game was never really in doubt. Obviously, I had a real problem with the way Collins played and he should have never started the 2nd half, but they are still trying to find a decent O-line combination and you have to see how they can pass block. A game like this where we could run when we needed to was the perfect situation to test those guys in the trenches. No one could have possibly thought Collins would be as bad as he was but I think the strategy was sound.
Funny as hell quote from Morrissey.....lmao
Collins looked as if he were 38, hadn’t started an NFL game in three years and was waiting for someone with an oilcan to wander by. Oh, wait.
He finished with a passer rating of 6.2, which isn’t easy. You get a 25.7 just for having a heartbeat. He called it the worst performance of his career. He might be right.
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
some of my thoughts...
-Izzy stepped his game up! Glad to see him do well. He’s a solid DE w/ 8+ sack potential
-Collins is bad. He definitely looked his age that whole game. His best plays were handing the ball off to Forte/Taylor. Vote for Hanie if Cutler cant go next game!
-O-line looked better, especially run blocking. Webb and Williams had some pretty good blocks during Forte’s TD runs.
-D. Manning has played very well at safety so far this year. I think he’s been overshadowed by Peppers, Urlacher, Briggs…but I wanted to give him props.
-Why was Dez Clark NOT active? This mind boggled me, especially since they knew they were gonna get off the bus running. I guess they are really impressed w/ Olsen and Manu’s blocking ability…
Manumaleuna deserves some props.
He blocked very well Sunday.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Oct 11, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I threw up in my mouth a little bit reading that...
…and knowing that it was true…
true..
Manu did block better during the Panthers game and I hope he continues to block well, but im still not sold. I’d rather have Dez on the field than Manu. Just my opinion…lol
Bout Time!
Five games into the season and Manny finally looked like his only place was on the scout team :(
pbanachi
Webb and Williams had some pretty good blocks during Forte’s TD runs.
…although both his runs were to the other side, the second one being the one where he bounced to the outside because there wasn’t anything open in the middle.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
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If I ever wanted Lovie Smith fired it is for crap like this.
Bears coach Lovie Smith said quarterback Todd Collins ‘’did some good things.’’
What flipping game was he watching!!??!! He needs to shut up after the game. Better to have people think you are a quiet idiot than open your mouth and prove them right.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
absolutely.
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
It's like he's coaching little league and wants everyone to feel good about themselves.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
"Lovie is our Head Cosch"
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 11, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Question
What specific benefit would come from Lovie blasting Collins in the media? Please name one way in which the performance of the team would actually be helped if Lovie came out and said how much Collins sucked. Enlighten me.
He doesn't have to say anything.
And if he was asked what he thought how about being tactfully truthful. We we’re disappointed in Todd’s performance but we realize anyone can have a bad game… No he bold face lies and tries to put a pretty little ribbon on it and hopes it’ll go away. How would it help the team? They’d know they better put up on the field. Lovie won’t cover for bad play.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
by Just Dave on Oct 11, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The organization
has always been about playing nice. That’s not likely to change.
That said, Collins did hand the ball to Forte for two scores, those qualify as “good things.” So really, Lovie isn’t WRONG, per say…hehe.
per se. per se.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
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I caught it
later on, but couldn’t edit the post. I don’t get to work until 10am and hadn’t had my coffee yet, cut me some slack.
Don’t mind me, I’m just trying to drive myself crazy doing stuff like this…..
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
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He did hand off the ball well.
Better than Jimmy Clausen…
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 11, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Come on
You seriously think that Lovie actually believes Collins “did some good things?” He is obviously not being truthful, because Lovie doesn’t usually publicly evaluate players. He pulled the guy during the game, he obviously didn’t think he was doing too many “good things.”
Get on Lovie if you want for not being truthful with fans/media, but do not call him an “idiot” because he said this
Cutler's huge shirt
was cracking me up, I know he’s a little chubby, but that shirt made him look like Homer in the moomoo.
At least Cutler coversup his chubby, unlike Brett Favre who emails it to a cheerleader.
BTW Brett, not very impressive.
I was digging his swanky new sideburns.
I was surprised to see him throwing pregame but sweet bajebus what an arm.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
perhaps it was to hide an injury we were not told about
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by Maelvampyre on Oct 11, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
He looked shellshocked from the get go.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
OH YOU SOOOOOO WENT THERE!!!!!!!!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
would you expect any less?
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm just glad it's just not me. Just saying.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
exactly.
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
NFL should start putting prints of needles on their helmets
during an entire nfl month, to heighten awareness!
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 11, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
haha
+1
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
And it would at least
fit closer into the demographic of the game. Marketing breast cancer awareness in the NFL doesn’t exactly reach the best target audience.
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
agree
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 11, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
The NFL's "best" target market has been in the mature stage for decades.
They have been very aggressive in expanding their apparel line to include fashion savvy woman’s wear with Alyssa Milano’s “Touch” line. The breast cancer awareness campaign is a part of their marketing strategy.
If this is results in our wives and girlfriends embracing pro football and becoming an active part of the fan base then it’s a win-win.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
I actually just ordered my lady
one of these alyssa milano hockey shirts. They appear to be nice. And they’re hot.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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Props to your lady for being an early adopter!
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Yes.
I am very pleased that she is committing to the Indian.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 12, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Women are smarter than that!
They aren’t going to embrace the game because some marketing person puts a pink ribbon behind the shield and some players wear pink socks. And I really hope that the NFL’s not using breast cancer to gain female followers.
And sure, females watch the sport… but what’s the main demographic?
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be an epic fail
using breast cancer to gain female followers.
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 11, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I DO NOT believe for a minute
that the NFL is using a non-profit to expand viewership, no. The NFL gives back in many ways: NFL Charities, NFL United Way, youth programs…the list goes on. This one just happens to be gender specific, an audience that the NFL is trying to grow, and it becomes self-perpetuating.
The main demographic for the loyal NFL fan is 63% male aged 25 to 54, income 25k to 75k, 83% white, with a HS to some college education.
I didn’t mean for my post to come across as cynical and apologize if it did.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
it didn't, and even if it had...
you wouldn’t have to apologize for it.
However, for getting such amazing seats yesterday and not getting the pics up yet…
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Guilty!
Tried to send out some stuff while at the game and was absolutely blinded by the sun (or possibly Dane’s Ditka sweatervest) to where I couldn’t even see my phone screen. Reception was iffy at best and finally my battery died.
But Kendra took a bunch with her little camera, nothing that’s going to make the cover of SI or anything, and I’ll load them up in a day or so. I don’t want to overwhelm everyone with too much incredibleness this early in the week.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
As a female who is a rabid NFL fan
I don’t want stuff that is supposedly “targeting” me, and I don’t appreciate the implication that women who don’t like football the way it is will be lured in by pink ribbons and a token female sideline reporter for every station.
I myself don’t want a pink jersey, or one with sparkles. I don’t mind that they make them available to others, because it’s not in my face when I want to watch 6 hours of football. But more chick-targeted coverage make me ill.
Chicks who love football love it for FOOTBALL, not gossipy crap, WAGs, or pink gimmicks. And we like hard hits, not wussy “Don’t mess up Tom Brady’s hairdo” rules.
Sheesh.
I need a new signature.
Just wait for my article tomorrow.
I can hardly wait for your response….
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
AMEN SISTA!
We share the feelings of pink jerseys… although you’re a little nicer about it than I. Haha. But I want hard hits, fights, etc. Dirty, gritty, football… not pink, frilly cheerleaders.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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by Ashley Czuba on Oct 11, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Think this is how my ex feels about the game.
I made her LOVE the Bears. Now I feel like she just follows the game to impress dudes with names like Urlacher, Steltz, Knox and Gould. You are obvioulsy a true fan b/c you’re on the blog. Same w/ HB and Allie. Nothing better than a female that’s devoted to the cause through good and bad.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
Yes.
Besides I HATE pink jerseys etc… if you’re going to buy Bears memorabilia, buy the TEAM’S COLORS!! Argh…
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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by Ashley Czuba on Oct 11, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to respectfully disagree.
Who loves boobs more than we?
Colt's fan friend - "This is our dog, we named her after Peyton Manning."
Boondocksaints812 - "You named her Bitch?!? Did you train her to lie down when you run towards her too?"
Men get breast cancer too!!
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
Editor/Writer for WindyCityGridiron.com
by Ashley Czuba on Oct 11, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Out of all people diagnosed with breast cancer, less than 1% are men.
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by David Taylor on Oct 11, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
this guy
is a warrior, he doesn’t care who he texts or how many photo messages he slings all over the field, this guy just loves the “game” -Jon Gruden on the recent Favre rumors.
by jimribs on Oct 11, 2010 9:45 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
used to have a lot of respect for 'chuckie'...still think he would be a great coach for us
but enough with the ‘photo’ sucking of farve already….the guy is a joke now…an egomaniac that cant get enough of himself…I hope the rumors are true and his wife dumps his ass and takes half his money….
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
The funniest thing is everyone who is taking this seriously!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
not to change the subject, but...
is today the day we find out who won the “Pick ’em” from last week?
One thing I haven't seen mentioned anywhere was the play of Edwin Williams.
I had to search the roster for this kid. I thought he did a very serviceable job at guard.
He certainly looked better than Frank the stank.
“Lovie is our Head Coach”
“Lovie gets off the bus humming”
Izzy benefits greatly from the Freak that is Julius Peppers.
Todd Collins doesn’t suck, if he sucked he might be useful, if he blows he still could be used on the leaves. If we filled the #10 uniform full of excrement, stood it in the backfield and used a stick to attach the ball to hand it off to the backs – that would approximate his ability.
My 21 year old daughter has greater arm strength than Collins and can throw a tighter spiral.
We have our win and our first place. Well done.
But, can someone wake up Mr. Angelo – I believe he’s asleep at the wheel, again.
Could we call Jeff Garcia?
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 11, 2010 9:49 AM CDT reply actions
Is your daughter single?
Because that’s marriage material, right there. I’ll do the laundry and cooking if she can win the game. :)
LOL - yes single.
I have shotgun standing by.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 11, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
We all knew Izzy was awesome
He just has that non stop, never die, never give up, 110% attitude..if we hade a 53 man roster of Izzy we would win the Super Bowl every year, the guy has heart.
by Chitownproduct on Oct 11, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Not wanting to be too harsh on Collins but....
WTF? I had to ask the questions:
- Where the hell was Hanie after interception #3 (or 2 or even 1)?
- Wouldn’t LeFevour have been an upgrade?
- Didn’t I see this patch on Todd Collins uni?

There is no "Off Position" for the Genius Switch - David Letterman
Sports are odd
after berating and bashing him verbally and asking for his removal, I couldn’t help but actually feel kinda bad for the guy. Yeah sure he gets paid a lot of cash, but looking at his face you couldn’t help but notice the “god I suck” look on his face.
In the post-game
interview, he came out and said, basically “I totally sucked.” I forget exactly how he worded it, but he didn’t use the lame “there were some plays I wish we could have back” crap that you usually hear.
I think he’s a poor fit for this offense, but he’s not without some class.
I wish he would have given a couple of excuses
- what do you expect when I’m running the scout team and pretending I’m Clausen?
- it was a sea of pink out there and I was confused…nothing but pink!
- they didn’t teach the 1/2 step drop at Michigan
- the combination of the heat and unseasonable wind currents caused my balls to float
There is no "Off Position" for the Genius Switch - David Letterman
by The_Phoenix on Oct 11, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
the combination of the heat and unseasonable wind currents caused my balls to float
When I first read that, I took it to mean his testicles and was wondering how that would have been possible …what?
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
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izzy has played well all this year
the problem is, the push from the DTs has been non-existent. thus, QBs flushed from the outside (izzy, peppers) get to move up in the pocket and avoid the pass rush. if we get any real pressure from the middle (can we get a hot tub time machine and get the 2006 tommie harris back here?), our front four will start really weaking havoc.
Game thoughts
-Collins was epically bad. He overthrew wide open receivers on back-to-back plays. Wow.
-The Panthers are really bad too. Their rush defense is also really bad. But before I give that all the credit for yesterdays run performance by us, I’ll say that perhaps this will give the team confidence running the ball going forward.
-Is it possible that we have two defensive player of the year candidates in Peppers and Urlacher?
-I’m still not sold on the Bears: Winning with your backup is great, but we suck on 3rd down and still can’t get 1 yard when that’s all we need. A good team would have beat us yesterday we just got lucky that we played one of the worst teams in the league.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Oct 11, 2010 11:06 AM CDT reply actions
to us, yes it's possible to have 2 DPOY candidates
but to MSM…it’s still Polamalu…fail
i feel like Seattle and WSH can hand us a loss, especially if we continue going 0-whatever on goal to go situations
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 11, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
Washington is a “frisky” team, good coach and QB but not overloaded with talent, they just give everyone tough games. I think realistically 6-2 going into the bye will be a great first half, could be 5-3 but that is probably still better than I thought. The more we win early is good because our November/December is brutal!
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Oct 11, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
personally I hope
we can eek out 5 wins before the bye, and then rest up, and hopefully play up to the competition in the winter, while some of those teams will be battling injuries, and god willing, we have some semblance of an Oline by then
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 11, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish, but....
Matt Forte turned it on early. Imagine this-getting the ball outside to him quickly on the little flips and tosses works. Running him up the middle doesn’t.
Wonder if we might see more of those types of plays.
Probably not :(
by I Have Bearsititis on Oct 11, 2010 11:32 AM CDT reply actions
Notes
I was at the game yesterday.
Bears fans took up approximately 30 percent of the stadium and were very vocal.
Peppers booed every time his name was announced.
A Bears fan in front of me sang “Bear Down,” loudly after the first TD
Peppers putting his finger to his lips and shh’ing the crowd was hilarious
Saw several Bears fans in the end zone seats including a Ditka look a like
Panthers fans were more excited about the halftime regional mascot game then the actual game. Big props to my alma mater, the Elon Phoenix, for representing.
Collins was awful
Briggs gave the thumbs up when walking off the field, seemed ok.
My buddy asked if Urlacher still played for the Bears…he then destroyed DeAngelo Williams on a run.
It was hot and there were a lot of empty seats after halftime, terrible fan base.
Go Bears!
by JimMcMahon's Headband on Oct 11, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions
Crazy wasn't it?
I’ll put some pics up later. Where were your seats? Maybe you can show everybody which pixel you are. ;)
You’re right. Fans were very late getting to the game and very early to leave. I did notice Briggs spent a lot of time on the training table late. Worked on Lach some, too. Two trainers had him behind some equipment tables and were holding up towels while he dropped his pants. Wrapped his lower torso with a bandage and he seemed fine.
Something I thought was pretty cool was when Lovie came to the sidelines right before kickoff and a bunch of us were yelling “Lovie!”, he acknowledged us and flashed this huge smile. Our section went wild and then he immediately changed his expression back to his stoic game face. It was as if he was well aware of his reputation and was making a little game of it with us.
On a side note, Matt Toeaina’s arms should have their own zip code.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Seats
I was in 235, below the Miller Light Suite, great seat and completely in the shade!
When we were walking in, around 1240, there were a ton of people still tailgating and no one seemed to be in any hurry to leave. Definitely pathetic to see a third of the stadium empty at kick off.
Hope you enjoyed the game as much as I did. First time I’ve seen the Bears defeat the Panthers in Carolina.
by JimMcMahon's Headband on Oct 11, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Then you must have been at the game in '08, too:
Manning had the punt block for a TD and we were up….17-3….and then blew it. Brandon McGowan broke his arm, the Olsen twins…it got creepy yesterday when we were up 17-3.
It was really cool being that close to the players. Unfortunately most of the game took place on the South end of the field. For those that recognize the awesomeness of Patrick Mannelly, I could have held a casual conversation with him (and Gould and Maynard) throughout the afternoon.
It’s no surprise to me as to why these guys are so good at what they do. If they’re not on the field, they’re practicing.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Pitiful QB performance.
I never want to see Todd Collins in a Bear uniform again.’
Not even on the sidelines……definitely not on the field.
I was screaming at the TV after pick #2 for Hanie.
But no, Lovie and Mike had to stick with him.
Any other decent team and we lose – it’s just fortunate that Carolina is pretty terrible.
Don't you think
that its possible that Martz and Lovie know just how terrible Carolina is, and therefore they allowed Todd to stay in the game to see if he might correct some issues? Maybe he makes some kind of progress, and at least if he is needed as the season progresses the coaches would have a better idea of his abilities?
Collins was a pivotal part of the offense
For Carolina.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 11, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to admit that I expected more from Collins
considering how he played against us as a Redskin.
He was out and we pulled him back in, just in time for the final preseason game. He looked good playing against 3rd stringers most of whom got cut. He has had very limited reps with the first team.
I wonder why they are so reluctant to put Hanie in. What do they know that we don’t?
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 11, 2010 1:47 PM CDT reply actions
Bears number 3 in this weeks power rankings
impressive considering the mainstream football media isnt giving us much credit for 4-1, and we are ahead of some pretty good football teams. Looking good guys.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 11, 2010 2:33 PM CDT reply actions
here
link found it a bit strange myself.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 11, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh. Bleacher Report.
I thought you had meant something real, and not from a social networking garbage site.
We can't afford to write off Seattle though, not that i think we are
But Hasselback is one of those old school Pros and the team is so up and down, you kind of never know what you will get with them. I hope Jay is back next week, if not then I’ll be seriously worried.
by Chitownproduct on Oct 11, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Head over and read the game thread at Cat scratch fever
There is some pretty funny stuff in there..“Judas Peppers”
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
Scary an understatement!
The Ohio St. #2’s could have played the Kittens and given them a good game :(
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