The Bears Den: October 14, 2010
You need to play with supreme confidence, or else you'll lose again, and then losing becomes a habit.-Joe Paterno
Larry Mayer's most recent Chalk Talk on the team's official site.
Here's a video with Cutler discussing his approach to Seahawks game...
...Followed by David Haugh's commentary on said video.
Dan Pompei has his take on the Chris Williams/OL news.
WCG still rocks Twitter--you should too!
Bears players give the thumbs up for the Union to dismantle should the need arise.
Hey Lester, Rick Morrissey says that he does care.
Dez Clark speaks up on his absence from Mike Martz's game plan.
John 'Moon' Mullin points out that the defense is getting its swagger back.
Moon also has a great story on Pete Carroll's influence on his new team.
Kevin Seifert tries to figure out if the Bears are for real.
Mike Tice a bit testy with reporters when asked questions about Chris Williams.
Matt Stafford slowly coming around, and could be back this week.
Bonus link: Moon's experience at the greatest WS game ever played; don't miss this one.
Bonus link II: Doug Farrar has a labor update for us; great read.
Bonus link III: Mike and Tom take on the topic of football legalise.
Hey, here's a video of Brett Favre getting hit in the nuts:
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Favre hit in the nuts = hilarious
Has anyone seen the new Viking Helmet making its way around?? That is funny as well.
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
the video
is nearly identical to Hans Moleman’s “Man Gets hit in Groin” film. Jeez who knew so many Simpsons references could be made this week on WCG.
This movie's got EVERYTHING!
Don't worry Boys, we'll weather this storm of approval, and come out as hated as ever.
The best part is
no one helped Favre out!
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 14, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
he should really wear a cup...lmao
"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon
It is funny...
but I say he’s milking it a bit. Come on Brett it ain’t that big, don’t make me call that chick from the Jets, she knows….
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 14, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
To be fair...
The further they hang from the body, the less protection you have.
And at Favre’s age… Well, he may have some knee knockers there.
Thanks to Deadspin
Everyone knows.
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by David Taylor on Oct 14, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Well I don't know and don't want to
cause I didn’t go to deadspin to find out.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 14, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
But you do know
you just don’t KNOW. Ya know.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
I know and I'm cool with it.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 14, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
After seeing his photos on Deadspin I now understand why he wants to have his own shower, seperate from the other players.
by BigGeorgeTX on Oct 14, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
And why he wears the number 4
(I heard that on the radio yesterday – funny stuff)
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by David Taylor on Oct 14, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 14, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Favre's wife had a statement earlier today
“Brett meant to send them to me…but you know Brett, the text was intercepted”
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
by ThorCo on Oct 14, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
awesome.
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by David Taylor on Oct 14, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
By the power of grayskull you are green.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 14, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for He man reference
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
Great.
Now we get to hear Chilly talk about Favre’s groin again. #douchechills
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by David Taylor on Oct 14, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm scared to click.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
It’s just a press conference of Chilly talking about Favre’s groin.
by boondock_saint812 on Oct 14, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Still scared...
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Added three bonus links at the end there,
that were not part of the original Den. Make sure to check thos out as well!
Morrissey has a job to do
He’s looking to nit pick the team in his town. He says;
Initially, it centered on whether they were a good team. Now the discussion has swerved to: ‘’Who cares whether they’re good or not? They’re 4-1!‘’ Well, you should care. If excellence doesn’t matter, we might as well pack 70,000-seat stadiums to watch Pop Warner games.
Aside from a lockdown defense, it’s ridiculous to say we’ve seen much in the way of excellence out of this team.
Is he expecting the ‘85 Bears? He says the D is playing lockdown defense (that’s pretty good), Cutler looked damn good in a couple games there. The running game was leaned on heavily and was stellar last week. The special teams looks ridiculous, besides Hester and Manning, Gould’s leg is strong like mule.
So I still don’t care what the critics say. The Bears are 4-1, and I’m enjoying winning football. If I wanted to see pretty football I’d go to the practices and watch them execute against the scout team.
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 14, 2010 8:48 AM CDT reply actions
The offensive stats are a little skewed anyway
Given that Collins was playing for Carolina on Sunday.
"I've been big ever since I was little." William Perry
by StewieGrifins on Oct 14, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, take away that game,
and the game in New Jersey, and things look a lot better.
But, why take away part of the season? It happened, so we have to factor it into perspective.
Oh, I agree completely.
I’m just saying you can’t judge them TOO harshly. If Cutler was playing Sunday, the passing numbers wouldn’t have been nearly as abominable as they were.
That being said, the rushing numbers might not have been there if that were the case and they were throwing it every play.
"I've been big ever since I was little." William Perry
by StewieGrifins on Oct 14, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Why exactly...
do people have to “strive for excellence” when watching football? Can’t we just be entertained?
And just to keep pestering you,
Category————————— No.—————- NFL Rank
Off yards per game -————280.8———————27
Points per game——————18.4——————- T-22
First downs per game———-14.8———————- 27
Third down pct.——————- 21———————— 32
Passing yards per game——182.2——————— 24
Passer rating———————-74.8———————- 22
Rushing yards per game—— 98.6———————- 23
Giveaways—————————28————————20
I think by Giveaways
You meant penalties. Though Collins was capable of throwing that many picks if they kept him in.
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by StewieGrifins on Oct 14, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
That Giant game has these numbers skewed...
And Collins not functioning at all has these numbers off. Then where are the defensive rankings or the special teams rankings?
Here’s the stat that I’m most excited about.
NFC NORTH
1 – Bears 4-1
2 – Packers 3-2
3 – Vikings 1-3
4 – Lions 1-4
And this one isn’t bad either:
Best Record in the NFL
Bears 4-1
Falcons 4-1
Jets 4-1
Ravens 4-1
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 14, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
maybe Rick Morrissey should move to Seattle?
where people will care what he thinks.
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 14, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Radio Notes
Biggs on the Score in the morning
- Did not hear anything about Cutler passing independent test but Bears holding him out. Finds that hard to believe
- Thinks Martz was told to run more by Smith to help protect Cutler when he comes back
- Seen games this season where Martz ran a few times then just flipped the switch and just went pretty much aired it out
- Talks about how the Bears Offense were ranked 31st in aikmen rankings (aikmen rankings is something that Lovie would use in the past to show how good the D was / is)
- Bears Offense pretty good between 20s but is garbage in the redzone and WORSE in goal to go situations
- O being dragged down in the aikmen rankings by that and also 3rd down, running football and protecting the QB
- Defense is ranked 3rd in the aikmen rankings
- As a team they are ranked 24th though and talk about if it was possible if that was the team really is a slightly below average team
- But hey the Bears are 4 – 1 and no one in Chicago media thought that possible
- Bears have to hope Cutler is not spooked after getting injury. Thinks that is what happened to grossman
- If CWilliams comes back Bears will have to find a place for him on the line
- Team was please on how Webb played at RT
- Louis was ok before the injury so up to Tice on how to assemble the line
- Tice wants younger O line since they have upside and can improve from week to week. Older Vets you know what you are going to get from week to week
- Will be interesting to see what they do with the line not only now but when everyone is healthy
- Bears should expect to see tons of marshawn lynch
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Zaidman in the afternoon on the Score
- Bears pass O was worst he had seen in car but never thought car was in the game
- Thinks people are overly pessimistic on the Bears
- Not true that Cutler was cleared last week. If he was he would of been out there
- Starts talking about OLine but McNeil interrupts and calls the O line BAD and laughs. Zaidman calls it a work in progress
- Every week a new O Line so they can not get any continuity on the Line
- McNeil interupts again and says CWilliams should sit as he did nothing when he was in and does not think he is any good
- Zaidman states they are trying their best to put O Line they can win with
- McNeil thinks protection was better without CWilliams (even with the 9 sack game)
- sea good running D will not run for 200+. So might have to air it out
- When Bears get off to fast start and have lead at halftime they are 38 – 6
- sea has good Special Teams as well so that will most likely be a wash
- Knox / DManning top 2 returners since 2008
- sea has struggled on road
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JD on ESPN 1000 at night
- Garza out for Sun and perhaps a few weeks longer
- Had clip of Tice saying; Going to find the 5 best guys to establish to win with. Establish some of the younger guys. Wants continuity on the line
- Tice on CWilliams: Great knee bender. At this stage of his career thinks CWilliams is a better run blocker than pass blocker. Knows CWilliams does not want to hear that but that is what he sees. Thats why he is moving inside
- JD STUNNED Tice said that. Also STUNNED that Omiyale who had bad game (from what he saw) is staying at LT and CWilliams is moving inside
- Izzy had great game and finished his pressures something Anderson could not do.
- Wooten was OK but thinks Grant has to get some time to see what he can do
- Goal line back still up in the air as Bears are 0 for 9 (6 runs 3 passes) from 1 yard line and in
- Should be interesting to see how DA and Cutler mesh again. Cutler likes DA as his favorite target history shows that
- sea just like Bears have made tons of changes to roster and not played well on the road
- Briggs did not practice but not serious ankle injury. Tillman has a calf injury.
- Wright did some light running which is encouraging
- Not buying what Martz is selling on why Clark is not playing (need KDavis for ST). KDavis and DClark have nothing to do with eachother
- Should be Clark over Manu as Manu was horrific once again even if he had 1 good block (afternoon saloon says 2). JD states Manu still horrible
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Zaidman at night
- Cutler suffered concussion at some point of the 2nd QTR does not remember when
- Hanie was not officially named #2 Lovie refused to answer questions on that
- Martz mentioned how big CWilliams is and might be best suited inside but no official word on where he will line up
- Doesnt know how good O line is are can be due to injuries
- Bernstein likes CWilliams to LG cause it is them FINALLY admitting mistakes
- EWilliams Webb played well so want to keep them in there
- Martz clip saying: I really like Clark but not in because he does not play ST. So need KDavis activated. Clark still listed as #2 HB
- Reporter asked carroll if he was over confident (ie licking their chops) about sea Dline facing Bears OLine. Reply was no reason to feel over confident at this time in sea
Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker......
- Jay Cutler on how he handles stress playing behind the O Line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 14, 2010 9:02 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Thanks for the updates.
JD is clueless when compared to our very own Lester.
by Mike Mueller on Oct 14, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hey that hurts....
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 14, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Bernstein likes CWilliams to LG cause it is them FINALLY admitting mistakes
Ya buddy, That’s a great reason to like that move.
Bernstein oozes negativity..
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
agreed
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 14, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
McNeil is a moron
that is why he can’t ever hold down a job, trainwreck..
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
Morrissey
The Bears are moving Williams from left tackle to left guard, which has a whiff of desperation to it. But how could a 4-1 team be desperate?
You said they were desperate Morrissey and I disagree. The notion, that moving a versatile first round pick to another position on the offensive line is desperate, is ridiculous.
If you wanted to say “promoting a practice squad guy to starting line up is desperate”… Then fine, I can jive with that. But having Williams in the line up, not desperate at all, IMHO. In fact, I say it’s proactive approach to fixing this line.
Once again proving the local Chicago media being dumbasses (outside of Zaidman, Moon, Jensen)
Chris Williams is an average to good lineman. Frank Omiyale has been decent at LT. Good vs. GB & Dallas, bad against NYG, and OK vs. Carolina. He should stay there. Webb has been good and has lots of potential. The best place for C.Will to come back to is at Left Guard considering there is a gaping hole their now that Garza is getting a scope. We all know the offensive line is the weak link on the Bears right now. The coaches know that too, so it makes perfect sense to try out new guys and new combinations to improve their performance.
by Mike Mueller on Oct 14, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Well I've seen Omi at LG
So no thanks.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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We are a fan base that saw John St. Clair play LT
Omiyale is fine staying at tackle.
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 14, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Hahaha
Excellent point. I’m not sure my point came across. I was agreeing with Mike that I’m good with Omi staying at tackle because I’ve seen him at guard.
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His skills set is that of a tackle
Williams can go either way.
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 14, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Williams can go either way.
Bear Nation should be pleased to hear that.
I knew someone would jump on that one
Well played…
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 14, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
oh man
st. clair looked like an all-pro compared to some of the piss-poor off linemen in recent years; thomas metcalf and qasim mitchell are two that come to mind.
good lawdy was that mitchell guy the worst. even the other linemen at the time used to yell at him on the sidelines for f’ing up all the time.
by reefermadness3 on Oct 14, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Sacks given up during the Giants game.
Sack #1 Manu gave up sack to Osi
Sack #2 Garza blown up by Canty. I don’t even think Garza got a hand on him.
Sack #3 Manu once again giving up the sack.
Sack #4 Olsen giving up the sack to Osi.
Sack #5 Actually had some protection but took too long for play to develop. Cutler ran out.
Sack #6 Tuck got the sack but Osi’s pressure forced Jay to step up. I’m guessing Jay is concussed by this point. I guess that one’s on Shaffer.
Sack #7 Cofield blew by Kruetz and Louis.
Sack #8 Sack given up by Omiyale to Osi.
Sack #9 Blitzing CB Ross untouched for the sack to end Cutlers day.
And sack #10 Tuck takes down Hanie.
I thought it would be a good idea to see who gave up what and where the line broke down. Well, the entire line sucked as well as the tight ends staying in to block. They all pretty much blew there assignment on every play.
by boondock_saint812 on Oct 14, 2010 9:43 AM CDT reply actions
Three of the first four are on the TE's....
that is sad espcially since Manu is a “blocking TE”. G-Reg whiffed hard in his attmept but we all know he is a glorified receiver even if the Bears won’t admit it.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 14, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm still waiting to see the blocking madness that is supposed to be Manu.
And still wondering why Clark, a good blocker and receiver, isn’t even dressing on Sundays.
by oripunk3485 on Oct 14, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I think this is why Martz is taking a lot of the blame for the failures
His play design, protection schemes called for the TEs to be the main blocker on the Def End in a lot of cases. Osi vs. Manu is an obvious mismatch. Osi vs. Olsen is comical in its absurdity. If I’m laying blame for all the sacks, and there’s a lot of blame to go around, I go Offensive Line & TEs first because they didn’t get it done, Martz 2nd for putting guys in bad spots, and Cutler 3rd for holding the ball and making poor reads/decisions.
by Mike Mueller on Oct 14, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Lets see
Sack 1- A TE not on the line
Sack 2-Garza no longer playing
Sack 3-Manu again, not on th line
Sack 5-Like you said, he had time
Sack 6-Shaffer is no longer playing
Sack 7-Louis replaced by Edwin Williams though Kreutz seemed to have more fault, miscommunication seemed to play a role
Sack 8-Cutler had an okay amount of time
Sack 9-A CB blitz, line should have picked it up but not really a blocking problem
Sack 10-Hanie is in
It was bad, but improvement is possible and happened against the Panthers.
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