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Jay Cutler and Concussions- This Wasn't His First

A story that perhaps slipped through the cracks in the last couple of days, it appears that the concussion suffered by Jay Cutler in the first half of the game against the Giants two weeks ago wasn't his first, despite him claiming it was.  Here's a link to Cutler's claim. (pops)

But, according to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune, this was not Cutler's first concussion.  Biggs pulled some infomation from the way-back machine, and said this:

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Cutler denied having previous concussions, but a Nov. 13, 2004, story in the Tennessean said he suffered three concussions playing at Vanderbilt. He suffered another in the Broncos' 2006 season finale at San Francisco, making the hit against the Giants — and he's not positive it came on the final sack by nickel cornerback Aaron Ross that knocked his head into the turf — Cutler's fifth known concussion.

I'm no doctor, but I know that a fifth concussion is potentially a lot more significant than a first.  Here's hoping even more that MIke Tice and Mike Martz can get the offensive line shored up.

Update: Here's a link to an article about the rash of injuires in Week 17 of 2006. Of note: 

And Denver's Jay Cutler was knocked out of the Broncos' game with San Francisco after being hit in the head. He returned later and led his team on a game-tying touchdown drive but the 49ers won 26-23 in overtime, knocking the Broncos from the playoffs.

 

Update #2: And here's a link to an ESPN recap of the Georgia-Vanderbilt game on October 18th, 2003, which mentions Cutler being out a series due to concussion:

Vanderbilt drove to the Georgia 23 in the opening minutes of the fourth quarter, but backup quarterback Stephen Bright, with starter Jay Cutler out for a series with a concussion, missed receiver Brandon Smith with a pass on fourth-and-3.

(Helmet-tip to lopey in the FanShot section)

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I'm a tad bit skeptical of Biggs' report,

he gives no link to the previous articles or direct quotes from them. He just mentions they exist without providing the evidence.

by Mike Mueller on Oct 14, 2010 2:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Ouch...

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 14, 2010 2:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Noooo!!

I’d heard a few days ago that he’d had one at Vandy (the players said they’d figured it out by his symptoms in the huddle) and that he’d had one at the Broncos, but I hadn’t heard a figure of THREE at Vandy.

I love the idea of having a cannon armed, tough QB who doesn’t want to miss any playing time, but I hope for Cutler’s sake they don’t let him rush back.

Honestly, if that’s no 5, he should consider retiring, but somehow I get the feeling he’d rather risk permanent dementia than give up playing.

I need a new signature.

by juperee on Oct 14, 2010 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Hah

I came in here ready to comment and be like way to rip off my fanshot! And then saw the hat tip after the jump, thanks.

That being said I wonder what kind of info they have anyway, maybe old injury reports that list cutler with a concussion or something. I do vaguely remember him suffering one in the 06 finale with denver though I just know it didn’t get a lot of press since the playoffs were getting all the attention.

by lopey986 on Oct 14, 2010 2:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeah, I wanted to just promote yours,

but I needed to get the links and quotes and such in there too.

by Dane Noble on Oct 14, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the problem

I’ve been looking for more info for a little bit now, and part of it is that even 5, 6 years ago, concussions weren’t as big a deal. So there’s some times where maybe he left a game for a minute, but he came back.

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by Kev H on Oct 14, 2010 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's an article from Vandy

but it says he missed only one series with a “mild concussion.”

Linked, for what it’s worth

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by juperee on Oct 14, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's update #2 above

except different source. Thanks for the extra confirmation

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by Kev H on Oct 14, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the one i remembered from last week, about a different Vandy game.

It sounds kinda unofficial though:


In 2003, when Cutler was at Vanderbilt, he didn’t reveal a concussion he suffered Sept. 20, 2003, against TCU. The coaching staff didn’t know, but his teammates sure did because he was calling wrong plays in the huddle.

link

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by juperee on Oct 14, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm

They have no source to back that up, really.

And why are new englanders so mad about Jay Cutler?

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by Kev H on Oct 14, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

In reading the rest of this article

It’s obvious they dont’ know what they’re talking about.

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by Kev H on Oct 14, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Specifically:
Yes, you’re putting the fate of your offense in quarterback Todd Collins, an aging Chester Taylor and an inexperienced fullback in Eddie Williams, but at least it’s better than an underachieving, concussed Jay Cutler.

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by Kev H on Oct 14, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed. One could argue that many, many things would be better than

putting the fate of the offense in quarterback Todd Collins.

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by juperee on Oct 14, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's easy to hate him

when the perceived aura/persona of him is that he’s a punk without truly caring about the game he’s playing. You know, his non-chalant facial expressions and what not.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 14, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup, but it's definitely the one i read last week.

I wanted to include the link because I said (above) that I had heard about one at Vandy, one at Broncos.

And yes, the rest of his “article” is pretty snarky.

As far as why new englanders are so mad about Jay Cutler, maybe it’s because they wish they had a pro quarterback who’s tough as nails and doesn’t have a girly haircut. Or snuggle baby goats.

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by juperee on Oct 14, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I should say

besides the two updates I added.

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by Kev H on Oct 14, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

cutler

Didn’t know that about the previous concussions. I read either in the Trib or in the new media guide that he never missed a start until last Sun. We do need this guy out there to be successful on offense and play at a high level.

by walterfan34 on Oct 14, 2010 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Some of these

concussion articles make me nervous. The articles almost make it sound like you are guaranteed dimentia if you’ve had more than one. I’ve definitely had a few, wonder what treatments are available for us non-professional athletes.

I’m glad that this has become a bigger deal. It should lead to better treatment for youth athletes and everyone else that suffers a concussion.

by Fridge72 on Oct 14, 2010 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm starting to think I got one in high school

I was having the game of my life- 2 TDs, 1 Int, 10 or so catches with over 100 yards. I got knocked silly out of bounds, blacked out, and came to a few moments later. It really is kind of scary when the brain gets knocked around in your cranium like a pinball.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 14, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

sounds like a good game though,

I think I’ve had three definite and two maybes, My brain seems to be functioning alright now. I got hit in the head in Clearwater around 1998 or so, it was spring break related and so unbelievably stupid I’m not sure I want to say what I did. I used to joke that it cost me 3 IQ points, wonder now if it really did.

by Fridge72 on Oct 14, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crazy stuff happens while partying

While I didn’t hit my head, I fell down a flight of stairs once….screwed up my knee a bit. I’d agree that a few points are shaved off from the wear and tear as we get older.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 14, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

July 4th, 2009

Got out of a hot tub and stepped on a glass, cut 2 tendons and a nerve and had surgery. Foot’s still messed up. Pretty sure everybody has some kind of story.

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by Acreman20 on Oct 14, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's right, with the stories,

we do. Most specifically in terms of this discussion we’re talking about head injuries. They are a bigger issue than they used to be. It’s a good thing.

by Fridge72 on Oct 14, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Three documented concussions

One which rendered me unconscious. Two days in the hospital. To this day I get random ringing headaches and have trouble remembering things. But I could also blame that on alcohol. 6 of one 1/2 a dozen of the other.

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by Just Dave on Oct 14, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ditto.

I’ve had multiple concussions. Don’t get headaches though, and short term memory is a n issue .. but like you say, could have have been all the ganja and alcohol and drugs and head-banging at metal bashes ….

by Wally&Mac on Oct 15, 2010 3:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yikes!

Just one concussion here during a rugby game… don’t know if the other team’s girl kicked me in the head while I was down (they were known for playing dirty), or if I just hit my head… the doctor thought I fractured my skull, luckily just a concussion…!

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by Ashley Czuba on Oct 15, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brutal accident

At a friends bachelor party in Rancho Mirage, a different friend put my finger back into place after I dislocated it badly.

How long did it take to get full motion back?

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 14, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've had 5 diagnosed concussions too

Let me tell all y’all, they get much harder to come back from each time. After my fifth diagnosed one (and I’d guess I’ve had 2 or 3 more) I was unable to hold down solid food for two weeks and my hands weren’t steady for days.
I really hope Jay is 100% fine, because if not I’d rather lose a couple games.

/please draft a few o-linemen

by wennington4 on Oct 15, 2010 1:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Injury stories...

I think a lot of injury stories start out with… we started drinking Tequila…

What were they thinking?

by touchdown bears on Oct 15, 2010 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

And they usually end with

“Luckily my neck broke my fall.”

Or is that just me?

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 15, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've had 2 concussions, 11 months apart, both requiring hospitalization.

No lingering effects. None. Zilch. Zero. Zippo. Nada. NUTH-ING. Not a thing. Nil. Naught. Nix. Negatory good buddy. Blank. Diddly-squat. Goose-egg. Nope.

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by Pete Dixon on Oct 15, 2010 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

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