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The Bears Den: October 18, 2010

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...a handy little link to watch Earl Bennett blow somebody up.

Dan Pompei wonders if Jay Cutler was asked to do too much yesterday.

David Haugh says the Bears were outmanned and outcoached.

Steve Rosenbloom airs it out in his newest blog entry after a tough loss.

Pompei and Brad Biggs quick reaction video right after the game.

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Quotes from Bears players immediately following the game last night.

Pompei says moving Chris Williams to LG was no help at all.

Rick Telander offers his thoughts on Cutler and the piling on of sacks.

Mike Mulligan lowers the boom on offensive coordinator Mike Martz.

Zack Bowman to have MRI early this week.

Five things Jeff Dickerson learned yesterday.

Dickerson also has a feature on the awesomeness of Devin Hester.

Jim Miller goes all out in his assesment of Cutler and the Bears.

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Such a time was yesterday, when a former WCG member went on a racist tirade in the Game Thread... Kev, Adam, and myself were all offline, and former member Stumpo lost his damn mind.  For those of you who flagged the comments, thank you.  For those of you who might not know how to flag a comment, or what that even means, here's the process:

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Remember, flagging a comment or post does not guarantee action by the site moderators, but it does easily bring things to our attention for review.  Also, if there is something on the site that needs immediate attention,  you can also email me, Adam, or Kev, as we all typically have instant access to the site via our mobile devices.  I didn't even know about that neanderthal Stumpo until I got an email about it, because I wasn't online all day yesterday.

And to close, please keep in mind if a troll or idiot starts running rampant in a thread, our request is to just flag it and move on, rather than engage with said idiot. 

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At the beginning

of the season I thought the over under for Sacks would be 60 (on pace for 72. SEVENTY TWO)…..Had no idea I was being generous…..

The Bears ran 12 times….TWELVE….and SEVEN of those were in the FIRST FREAKING QTR (from what Joniak and Thayer mentioned)……

Kinda of freaking sad that fans and meida “experts” know to run the ball with a little more frequency to help a bad and young oline…..

I just want to punch martz in the mouth….seriously…..

Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker......

- Jay Cutler on how he handles stress playing behind the O Line

by CloudyFuture on Oct 18, 2010 8:23 AM CDT reply actions  

It's hard to commit to the run

when you’re getting 2-3 yards a pop. Can’t convert on 2nd and 1 or 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1. It’s almost like, why show up and take the field. Pick your poison, Run the ball with no success or pass the ball with no success. How many times have the Bears made mediocre teams look like super bowl champs?

by Big Ike on Oct 18, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

However...

The Bears have hardly made much of a commitment to the run game this season; with the key word being commitment. They could be a 5-1 team if they had stuck to the run early. The defense may have been less tired at the end if the 3 and out passes were 3 and out runs.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMIE!...

by LostInSTL on Oct 18, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't see how this makes sense
The defense may have been less tired at the end if the 3 and out passes were 3 and out runs.

Both scenarios end up being three and outs. Same amount of time elapsed, and same amount of rest for the defense.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

but but

running game! defense!

bah.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 18, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

We rushed for 170 yards last week!!

How can you say we would have only gotten 2-3 yards a pop if you don’t actually commit? This week we run 12 times, 7 times in the first quarter and you’re ready to give up on it based on what exactly? Just remember, every time he touched the ball he’s one play away from breaking a 60 yarder.

The only time you’re guaranteed to not gain any yards running the ball is when you don’t run the ball.

Special teams are great, defense is pretty good, and it’s the same old, same old with the offense. I’ve seen enough of this team and coaching staff to know how this story ends.

by Skags on Oct 18, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

We rushed for 170 last week

Because most of us can spit further than Collins can throw and because Carolina barely knows how to play the run.

by Steven Schweickert on Oct 18, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

And more importantly..

the Hawks are second best in stopping the run.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Before that game

Carolina was pretty respectable against the run. I believe they were giving up 70 yards per game on the ground.

Yeah but it worked!

by Dils on Oct 18, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

According to what I pulled off PFR, before the Bears game they gave up 118 to the Giants, 95 to the Bucs, 120 to the Bengals and 121 to the Saints. Now as an accountant my math may be suspect, but that averages out to a smidge above 70.

by Steven Schweickert on Oct 18, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe he was trying to say

that if they went three and out with three runs it would take more time off the clock since the clock wouldn’t come to a stop like it would on three straight passes, if they all or even two of them were incomplete.
Either way more time would elapse if it was three straight runs, unless the three straight passes were all completed but they still came up short of the first down.

by dizzycubs on Oct 18, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

The clock isn't real time

Maybe, a big maybe, a few more seconds elapse in the process of being stuffed three consecutive times running versus three consecutive stops on passes. It’s a negligible difference either way. Now, if he was talking about the game time then it only makes a difference if the offense gets a first down or more.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

We oughta try this...

Run a watch on real-time for each defense and compare that to the “official” TOP.

by Steven Schweickert on Oct 18, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's about game time...

If the Bears take more time off the game clock, the opponents have less time on the game clock. 3 incomplete passes generally take less “real time” than 3 running plays and it is not negligible. It does add up both in real time and in game time.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!

"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"

by LostInSTL on Oct 18, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

After pass plays...

the clock stops, if the WR goes out of bounds or its incomplete; 2 reasons to go 3 and out. After run plays, the clock doesn’t stop, unless the RB goes out of bounds. If the Bears offense takes more time off the clock, then the Seattle offense gets less time on the field. When the Seattle offense spends less time on the field, the Bears defense spends less time on the field. Hope that answers the question.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!

"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"

by LostInSTL on Oct 18, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotcha

Over the course of the game, then yes you’re right. I was thinking more along the line of actual time on the bench resting the defense. This line of thinking goes back to running the football and playing good, solid defense. Too bad the Bears haven’t been able to run for like three years now.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm really disgusted by...

the lack of rushing attempts in general. Martz does know better and he didn’t do it. I postulated before the game that a rush first rush often mentality would save Cutler’s health and allow a struggling line to get some much needed success and confidence. I understand that Seattle has a good rush defense and poor pass defense, but sometimes it’s more about what you can do as a team than what you think the other team can’t do that makes the difference. This offense is flawed fundamentally and needs to get down to more fundamental football, like rushing, before it can go Martz crazy.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!

"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"

by LostInSTL on Oct 18, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Situational running too

Remember when they were in FG range on third and long? Cutler gets sacked and they have to punt. It could’ve been a different outcome if Gould gets 3 points. Martz is so in love with his passing offense, even if the line hasn’t been settled yet. Pure arrogance on his part.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

we still don't run enough.

the big gains will eventually come. but the running game has to warm up. most coaches will tell you stick with the run, even if it’s not going anywhere. you’re still getting defenses tired, even if it’s only breaking two three yarders.

You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.

by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 18, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly!

We ran it about 3 times and decided screw it.

(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...

by T.Moore on Oct 18, 2010 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

shocking.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 18, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Spot on.

With our prized QB coming back off his concussion, the SMART thing would have been to run. Sure we would have had lots of 3 and outs, we absolutely would have had bad field position, we would have failed to score lots of points – oh wait, that happened anyway.

Point is, we did nothing in play calling to discourage their blitzing. After the fiasco in NY every team will game plan the same way – blitz like crazy, disrupt the timing of the Martzfense. I’’m no genius, but I would do that certainly. You have to make the defense play defense. Seems to me we play defense on both sides of the ball.

Run the frikken ball – balance please.

If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 18, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

As mentioned

I am not asking to “get off the bus running” just increase the frequency of running the ball (hell I would be happy with 60 – 40 not 80 – 20)….Become a little more balanced to help a O line that is still “gelling” and that is young….

IMO there is no excuse to run the ball 7 times in the 1st qtr then only FOUR or FIVE times the rest of the game…..Pretty easy for a defense coordinator to just treat the run game as a joke knowing they are not going to run it…..

I wish the camera crews would get a shot of martz after a called run no matter the success because I know martz is greeting his teeth with disgust having to call a run play….

Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker......

- Jay Cutler on how he handles stress playing behind the O Line

by CloudyFuture on Oct 18, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe its just me

but why is anyone surprised by this?

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 18, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not surprised

but like I said yesterday guess I was hoping martz would reinvent himself….Though with Cutler he is passing more than anywhere else he heas been the last few season….. martz was around 65 – 35 pass in san fran and det….Seems martz is now like “oh shiny new toy…..LETS BREAK IT!”…..

Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker......

- Jay Cutler on how he handles stress playing behind the O Line

by CloudyFuture on Oct 18, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't expect a 69 year old man to change

If anything he was more likely to get stuck in his ways even further.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 18, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just

angers me further….Well when he is out of a job and back on NFLN with Tom Waddle going what happened to my coaching prospects I can laugh on the inside….

Should be interesting weds when the media can rip into martz and how martz responds…..Even though I know it will be the “well we were behind so had to pass” excuse…..

Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker......

- Jay Cutler on how he handles stress playing behind the O Line

by CloudyFuture on Oct 18, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Be like me:

enjoy this part of the season b/c I see ugly ahead.

And I’m not just talking about winter.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 18, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta admit I got my hopes up

Beginning of the season I thought 6 maybe 7 wins (8 if they got lucky)…..Got my hopes up after the dallas and green bay wins…..thought maybe they could get the 10 wins that Moon had them for…..

Plus I would like it if they won so I can rip into ESPN (especially trent dilfer who rips into Cutler even if Cutler throws for 300+ and 5 TDs)….

Though now I am a little torn cause I really do not want this coaching staff to return…

and Oh god martz running this offense in a Chicago winter….That should be some comedy gold……

Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker......

- Jay Cutler on how he handles stress playing behind the O Line

by CloudyFuture on Oct 18, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

If the gameplans, coaching, and pass-blocking

stay the same I tend to agree with you. If everything is similar this Sunday as it was yesterday, the ’Skins will hand the Bears their second straight loss.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I see no reason to believe

coaching will improve judging by the last 4 years of the Lovie Era. Or gameplanning judging by Martz’s 30 year NFL history and without those two this “pass blocking” thing has no shot either.

Don’t mean to be Debbie Downer, but this is going closer to how I thought it would when I said 5 wins on the season.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 18, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree

I never pick the bears to lose they will beat the. Skins

by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 18, 2010 10:52 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Both games I said they'd win

(Giants and Seachickens) are the ones they lost.

So, yeah.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 18, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

My point

is if they play badly and under-estimate the Skins like the Seadogs, they’ll lose.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate to say this

But these coaches may actually make adjustments
The bears did a good job against ware and Matthews I think they’ll slow down Orackpo

Martz needs to use shotgun if we wants to get
The ball deep so cutler can see someone free and either check it down or even run for some yards

2010 season I still believe!

Bear down!

by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 18, 2010 11:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I still believe too

Although, the shotgun doesn’t help when edge rushers come untouched.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

but it may save sacks and it allows cutler to see the field if he sees a corner showing blitz he can alert his line man that a guy maybe coming

by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 18, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm afraid

Cutler looks like a rookie QB after his weekly beating; incapable of making adjustments at the line, be a leader, and/or dump it off to his safety valve.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

So who is getting cut this week?...

Say what you will about JAs utter incompetence at drafting linemen, but these coaches are the problem, not the solution. I said repeatedly last week that the Bears should go run heavy until the blocking improves. Especially against poor offenses that probably won’t score much against this defense. Instead, Martz called a stupid pass only game, Tice couldn’t get his O-line to block anyone, and Smith couldn’t “encourage” his coaches or players to do the simplest of things. IMO, this falls on Lovie squarely. This team is actually less organized than in the last few seasons. The fundamentals of football are missing; blocking, tackling, passing, catching, and running. The fixes are simple; get back to basic fundamental football skills. Reduce the complexity and reduce the possibility for error. Then build the confidence and add complexity when the basics are solid. This is a team with talent, but without organization and a sense of purpose, this season will (and should) end badly for Lovie.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMIE!...

by LostInSTL on Oct 18, 2010 8:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Martz says

HAHAHAHAHA! Reduce the complexity of my offense ? You see this? This is a Super Bowl ring on my finger. What ? What hall of famers? They were hall of famers because of ME! kurt warner would still be bagging groceries if it wasnt for ME! I made him ! And john kitna ! And jt osullivan!

Seriously though I agree but I am not holding my breath on martz changing……I mean before the game martz told Zaidman they DIDNT HAVE to run more just execute HIS OFFENSE……

Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker......

- Jay Cutler on how he handles stress playing behind the O Line

by CloudyFuture on Oct 18, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

It might be time to go back to your old signature line......

I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said here. Don’t you wonder what Marinelli is thinking when he sees Martz doing this crap? Didn’t he fire Martz for this same stuff? The conversations between Lovie and Rod behind closed doors should be pretty interesting.

by BearFan611 on Oct 18, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

One can only imagine...

One thing Lovie didn’t say to Marinelli is:

“Have the CBs jam at the line and LBs undercut the slant route.” ;>P

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMIE!...

by LostInSTL on Oct 18, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

From Lovie and I quote,

“We did not play our best football today”. I throw up a little everytime constipated face opens his mouth. Even if we had pro bowlers at every position, under Lovie’s “leadership” we’ll find a way not play our best football.

by Big Ike on Oct 18, 2010 8:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Your hear him (Lovie) say stuff like that, and it makes you want to punch him in the face.

His deadpan cadence and blank expression gives me the impression he doesn’t get it or doesn’t know what to do. One or both are probably true.

We should send him to Headstart. Isn’t that the program where they send students to learn the basics to give them a leg up so they can achieve?? Would the take him?

If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 18, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Amen to that.

Lovie and Ditka are as different as different can get.

by Big Ike on Oct 18, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

So it be done

IT’S GREEN BAYBAY

A dozen for Devin baby

by suckmyditka on Oct 18, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

ew

it says green bay in there

i didn’t realize that

i will now commit seboku

A dozen for Devin baby

by suckmyditka on Oct 18, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Happy Birthday To The Coach

And to myself! :) It’s an honor to share the day with Da Coach himself.

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Oct 18, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

happy birthday!

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 18, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Oct 18, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

Thank you.

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Oct 18, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The league needs to get tough on players making helmet contact, or drivng players to the ground

From all the coverage i saw yesterday, I’m starting to wonder if guys are trying to take advantage of the concussion policy to knock guys out of the game. seeing that the slightest signs of head trauma mean you’re out for for the remainder of the contest, it’s not that hard to imagine. James Harrison should be made an example out of after yesterday’s villainous deeds.

You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.

by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 18, 2010 8:41 AM CDT reply actions  

It appears that the Bears are going backwards

Red Zone offense is terrible
3rd down conversions are a joke
You make a big investment in a QB and all you’re going to do is get him maimed for life.
O-line has no idea who to block.
Tackling was really poor.
Lovie/Martz were badly outcoached and I’m sure they’ll tell us that they will have to fix some things (again).
Thanks GB and MIN for underachieving!
Gonna be a long and painful year.

by Dirt Road on Oct 18, 2010 8:46 AM CDT reply actions  

I couldn't agree more...

Omiyale looked clueless

O-line has no idea who to block.

Thank god we have Tice to coach these guys up. If you want to send the right message fire Tice this week. If you REALLY want to send the right message fire Martz….

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Oct 18, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

We are just not a very good football team.

Mind y’all, we aren’t completely without hope (See: Carolina, Cleveland, Buffalo).

We got more pieces missin’ than a half empty puzzle box.

O-Line looks more like speeds bumps on a race track. They are an annoyance, but they won’t stop anyone for long.

Our secondary, specifically Mr. Tillman, can’t cover the rim of the toilet. Seriously, I think a one-legged war vet would be more effective.

Coaching – do we actually have any of those?

I am pessimistic this will get much better. The easiest part of our schedule is nearly over and it appears we may well end up 5-3 at the bye.

We may be in 1st Place, but this is the sorriest looking Division Leading team in the NFL.

If I’m Jay Cutler, I invest HEAVILY in long term disability insurance.

If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 18, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Our secondary, specifically Mr. Tillman, can’t cover the rim of the toilet. Seriously, I think a one-legged war vet would be more effective.

I get where you are going with the above statement, but be mindful there is a large military population active and otherwise on this site and that may not be the best picture to paint. I know it’s not spun to be in a negative way though. Other than that you’ve mad some very good points.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 18, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bear in mind

I’m a vet myself. As a former Marine, I can tell you most of the guys I know who have been permanently disfigured are tough as nails SOBs. Not one would take any offense.

I see your point, in our hypersensitive politically correct world that may seem “insensitive”, but most vets would laugh heartily and agree.

My underlying point about Tillman is that he showed no heart, and put forth less effort than is expected and required. A disabled vet he is not.

If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 18, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Understatement of the millennia
hypersensitive politically correct world

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's got nothing to do with PC-ness...

It’s the concept behind “Well, no one I know would be offended, therefore no one else should be.”

by Dane Noble on Oct 18, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sure

I understand how the perception works, but what gets me is the usage of synonymous words that don’t carry the same negative stigmas that other words do. I think we all know what words I’m talking about.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

PC-ness sounds a lot like penis. Heh heh....

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Oct 18, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Flagged

I’m officially offended! ;)

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well here is my rant...

After the crapfest i was watching I went over to comcast and saw a fan letter on there that made me snap…

Could we see the reason why Denver decided to get rid of Cutler? Orton would have won this game no doubt in my mind.

WTH!?!
Ok Kyle is starting to be more overrated in this city than even Alex Brown. If he was still here we wouldn’t be 4-2 in the lead of our division (maybe for now). He wouldn’t get all the yards he’s getting at Denver since our O-line aka. Line of big fluffy pillows can’t block a damn kitten. KO would look as good as Campbell from the Raiders if he is still here. Now while Denver’s O-line isnt great its miles ahead of our line.

We had a bad QB we run the ball, Cutler comes back and we are right back to passing every down. “We are playing from behind” BULL!!! This is why I was skeptical of Martz….He DOESN’T Protect our QB, he KNOWS the line isn’t doing anything and STILL does 7 step drops! When your QB is getting drilled on a consistent basis you RUN THE BALL period. I dont care if it doesn’t work you just RUN when better the losing or gaining 2 yards are carry than the QB getting a concussion again…

The line of large Pillows oh ho…They like i said can’t block a kitten thats right 1 kitten. Angelo is a goddamn idiot! Look at the Colts as soon as they drafted Peyton they surrounded him with so much talent a O-line a running game good coaches the works. And eventually Peyton became so damn good that he can make a once no name player look good. Angelo we traded for Cutler and put him in the shitstorm that we already have he alone doesn’t adressing the line years ago would help.

During the game Peppers did not once get a holding call his way? Thats a 1st since it seemed like he was being held all game. Good game from seattle. But this organisation and that letter pissed me off.

PS; Sorry for the cursing

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by T.Moore on Oct 18, 2010 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

If it was orton

in this offense he would be DEAD already (the very lest IR for the season)…..Cant argue the fact that orton has improved his play with the talent around him but with this offense no one can save themselves from martz pass happy offense with the worst O Line in the history of the NFL…..

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by CloudyFuture on Oct 18, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't remember seeing any holding calls against the Hawks.

And I do remember thinking at least a couple were warranted. But that’s clearly not why the Hawks won.

by oripunk3485 on Oct 18, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Notice to NFL punters.

Two reasons not to kick to Devin Hester.

1. He’s going to run it back for a TD.
2. Earl Bennet is going to turn you into inside out boy.

Sincerely,

 Jon Ryan

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 18, 2010 9:04 AM CDT reply actions  

I saw that, was close to being a penalty but...

Jimmy Crack Corn….

I’m just glad he’s blocking. He should teach the Oline how to do it.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 18, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hester for OL Coach.

If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 18, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Couldn't hurt anything

I’m mean really could the line be any worse?

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 18, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

His head wasn't behind on the block

no penalty… and a sweet hit

One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 18, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't understand the Bennett block.

I guess blind siding a punter 10 yards away from the returner and with no hope of catching him makes you feel like a man, but that was a bitch hit if I ever saw one. What would be nice is if you don’t run sideways away from the defenders when you catch a 9 yard pass and need 1 more yard for a first down just to avoid getting hit, pathetic.

by lopey986 on Oct 18, 2010 9:19 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Whats wrong with the block

The punter’s part of the team to.

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by T.Moore on Oct 18, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

That punter will be more aware next time he's trying to tackle the return man...

He learned a valuable lesson and should be thanking Bennett for that lickin’ he put on him.

by Da Sassage on Oct 18, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

That falls under the category of “Funny but true”

If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 18, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm
a punter 10 yards away from the returner and with no hope of catching him

The punter had an angle on Hester.

by Dane Noble on Oct 18, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's very true and you can see that in the link that was posted.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 18, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

How many times...

had the punter disrupted a runback…you have to take out the punter if you have to, he is fairgame….

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by bearsfn9 on Oct 18, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought the same thing

he was pursuing the play

One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 18, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever

that was the closest thing to a highlight play on either side yesterday.

I don’t blame people for getting excited about it.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 18, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

There was nothing wrong with that block.

It was legal and he solidified the TD. You sound pathetic for defending a Seahawks punter who already made a statement about how it was a legal hit. Zip it.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Oct 18, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

-1,000,000

If you seriously have a problem with a perfectly legal block on the punter, then you should stop watching football and take up a hobby like basket-weaving or knitting. Like someone else said, Hester could’ve had another TD or two this season if not for the punter.

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by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you're not allowed to get hit legally

because you’re not paying attention to what’s going on around you, then I would just run to the endzone with my eyes closed all game…

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by Ashley Czuba on Oct 18, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

From SI's "Snap Judgements"
The Bears’ three-point loss to a Seattle team that had dropped both of its previous road games by 17 points should provide a little smelling salt beneath the nose of the Chicago fandom. This is not a Bears team that’s good enough to overcome its glaring pass-protection problem. The returning Jay Cutler absorbed another six sacks (giving him 15 in his last six quarters of play) on Sunday, and at this rate, he’ll be in a body cast by Thanksgiving.
That said, Cutler continues to hold the ball too long at times and is still making some questionable throws as he runs for his life out there.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/10/17/week6.snaps/1.html#ixzz12ijVsTsk

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by Allie on Oct 18, 2010 9:27 AM CDT reply actions  

And Dave too.

If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 18, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

This would actually have to exist to be a problem
This is not a Bears team that’s good enough to overcome its glaring pass-protection problem.

pass protection is something the coaching staff talks about, something the media harps on and something the offensive line claims to have the skill to do – they just have to execute it. I don’t think this so called “pass protection” exists here in Chicago.

This is like searching for Bigfoot or a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. I don’t think this is actually something the Bears know how to do let alone know what it is. Pass protection is filed under running game perhaps … we don’t have one of those either.

by junkhorse on Oct 18, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

cutler

Had a bad view of the game but he looked inaccurate as hell, with at least a couple dropped picks. Not much going right on this team.

by mike b on Oct 18, 2010 10:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

He clearly wasn't sharp

Don’t know if he was hesitant, rusty or maybe rushed back.

by Arbusto on Oct 18, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

rushed back with a horrible game plan

no support and playing in an eerily quiet stadium.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 18, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

And shell-shocked

When edge rushers come in untouched it will shake any QBs confidence.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup.

He has shown deadly accuracy at times this season, but yesterday, he was all over the place.

by Dane Noble on Oct 18, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

"That said, Cutler continues to hold the ball too long at times and is still making some questionable throws as he runs for his life out there."

That’s funny because if the Bears would have won, would those same people be giving Cutler credit for keeping his team in striking distance by standing firm in the pocket and not throwing any INTs? I doubt it.

Yeah but it worked!

by Dils on Oct 18, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whats worse the O-line

Or Tommie’s Uselessness.

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by T.Moore on Oct 18, 2010 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

I think it's catergorized as 1a and 1b...

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 18, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

The O-line, hands down.

Tommie’s only one player, his lack of presence can at least be addressed by subbing him out. The O-line is a super-pile of 5 individual piles of uselessness. The left side looked particularly awful to me yesterday.

by oripunk3485 on Oct 18, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mulligan's last line may have been his best
In the new era of accountability, maybe benching the offensive coordinator for a week might help.

by rdent4hof on Oct 18, 2010 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

On Twitter this morning

Mike & Mike posed the question of how to describe your NFL team in 5 words. My entry:

“Can’t stop blitz or slant”

Thoughts?

by torch on Oct 18, 2010 9:50 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Mine?

Pass, Pass, Sack, ow, Jay?

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by Allie on Oct 18, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mine...

Bears first place Packers not.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 18, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which would mean “humiliation” soon thereafter.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
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by Spongie on Oct 18, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't matter if the Divison sucks or not.

The AFC south was garbage for years, does that take away from the Colts teams that won the division when it was down? So the only time we should be happy to be in first is if the division is more competative?

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 18, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

do not compare the Colts

who have clearly dominated in recent years to a Bears team that barely wins. You think the Vikes are going to be sleepy the rest of the year? That the Packers won’t overcome injuries?

we have a chance at winning this division, but so do both of those teams. we play like we’ve been playing and we’re no better than either of them. (we suck actually – that’s the truth). and yet, you’re content with another year of Lovie Smith.

by junkhorse on Oct 18, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I will use whatever comparison I want I'm allowed,

and if you actually read and understood my point I wouldn’t have to write this. Every team in our division have a chance to win it that’s not breaking news. I was trying to post in the spirit of the Mike and Mike Tweet format they were talking about on the radio, and I’m sorry I wasn’t all “Our o-line sucks, the coaches suck, fire everybody and the ball boy.” Or “God why can’t Jerry Angelo draft anybody that is good, I wish Kyle Orton was here.”

Garbage all of it. We all know Jerry hasn’t been the most successful GM at Drafting but not a damn one of you was complaining when some of his draft pics who are still on the team were winning. All I’m saying is find something else to harp on or I don’t know be more creative then “run the ball more” “fire everybody” “Martz is fat”.

The Vikings have all the talent in the world and right now they are 2-3, will they play better this year, maybe I don’t know. Will the Packers overcome the injuries? I don’t know we didn’t last year after Lach went down and Forte’s nagging knee injury.

you’re content with another year of Lovie Smith

Show me where I said that. I’ll hang up and wait for your answer.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 18, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh, it's Monday and I'm in a mood I think.

I won’t wish for losses just to get a coach fired, to each his own.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 18, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't wish for losses

but I do wish for consistency … I was convinced this team would win games it shouldn’t and lose games it shouldn’t. so far, that’s held true.

by junkhorse on Oct 18, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s the day after the night before and we’re all, justifiably, in a mood.

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by Spongie on Oct 18, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Newsflash

He’s probably in anyways—he’s got a year of contract, and there’s a solid possibility of a lack of football for part or all of a season.

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by Kev H on Oct 18, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just a question here...

How much fault does Lovie bear for the sucky O-line? I think it’s safe to say that accounts for 90% of the team’s current problems.

by oripunk3485 on Oct 18, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

A chunk of the problems?

Definitely.

But there are other problems on this team too. And not just this year the Lovie Era has had the same problems. (Poor secondary, lack of technical soundness in tackling, playing for the strip instead of the stop)

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 18, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm content with

another year of Lovie! :]

(I just love stirring up conversation with my optimism… muahahaha)

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by Ashley Czuba on Oct 18, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey quit laughing and get an avatar.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 19, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mine...

can’t block
can’t pass rush
can’t run
can’t stop a runner for a loss (4-5 times yesterday a Bear had his mitts on a Hawk runner but failed to bring him down)
can return kick/punts with the best of them.

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by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

5 words or less?

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 18, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

My bad

I thought it said 5 points…

Suck, sucks, sucky, suckier, suckiest. Better?

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by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why did Martz continue to call 4 receiver sets in long yardage situations?

The uncovered tackles were getting absolutely DESTROYED by the blitz every time that went to 4 receivers and 1 back. Martz kept going back to the same crap. You know, you can get 7-12 yards with 3 receivers, 1 TE, and a RB.

1 RB takes the right side, the TE takes the left. You neutralize the outside blitzers and hope 1 of your 3 receivers gets open. If not, then the RB and TE can release for a dump off and maybe they break a tackle for the 1st. Is that so hard?

by Mike Mueller on Oct 18, 2010 9:54 AM CDT reply actions  

What I didn't get

was how it sure looked as if the tackles were told to block down inside, instead of taking the edge rusher(s). It’s like Martz/Tice weren’t accounting for them in their gameplan. Rediculous and utterly disappointing to say the least.

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by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Geez Pompei

You didn’t ride Cutler hard enough without the douchey Perez Hilton-ish remarks about the quality of his girlfriend’s celebrity?

Lame. And I don’t care if he’s dating The Situation. Just write about the football game

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by BabylonDon on Oct 18, 2010 9:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Saw that too

and agree. Kind of a trend with these sports writers, especially the dudes. They always gotta throw some cheezy paparazzi-esque comment in there as if that’s what we’re hoping to read about. Rob Dibble did that all the time as he swirled the drain towards worse and worse sports analyst gigs this past decade. I just want to ask whether these guys are pining to work for E! or if they should just be happy to write about the game and what happens on the field (or court, or rink). I’d really prefer the latter.

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by iowaBear on Oct 18, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well to be fair

I saw part of Van Wilder: Freshman Year this weekend, and that movie was terrible. And she was in it. I’m not saying she made it terrible. I’m inferring it.

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by Kev H on Oct 18, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would use the fact that 'Van Wilder' has become a series of movies

as proof that god does not exist.

But truly, did you read how Pompei threw her into the column? It was a weird, uneccessary, mean-girl snarky comment. Of all the things that could be said about the hellaciously bad football game that Cutler had just played (survived) it was just baseless. A cheap shot, when there were so many legitiamte things to be said.

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by BabylonDon on Oct 18, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tom Waddle

Did anybody see Waddle rip the shit out of the offensive line on NFL network? He said in his 35+ years of football since pee-wee, he’s never seen a line as bad as the Bears on pass protection. He went off about the whole team really. It was awesome to see and hear a Bear fan actually rip this team on national tv.

by McRipper on Oct 18, 2010 10:09 AM CDT reply actions  

From the teams site
With Cutler under center, the Bears have now failed to convert their last 22 third-down opportunities, a streak that dates back to the second quarter of a Week 3 win over Green Bay. They entered the game ranked last in the NFL in third downs, and have converted just 3 of 40 in their last three contests.

That sucks!

“POP” How’s that spleen? lol

by rdent4hof on Oct 18, 2010 10:19 AM CDT reply actions  

I thought they coverted one late

It was when they were 0-9 in third down conversions.

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by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

You might be thinking of Taylor's 4th and 1 run, I know I thought of that one too

Otherwise it was Knox and Bennett falling the wrong way.

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by SaintCee on Oct 18, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Impressive.

You get a gold star. Can you pass block?

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by Pete Dixon on Oct 18, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love how Lovie is speaking like John Madden all of the sudden!

“When you don’t play well it starts with the head football coach.”
“Whether you throw it or run the ball, you just want production and we weren’t able to get enough production from either one.”

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Oct 18, 2010 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh and

This team is overall playing like the team I thought we were getting at the beginning of the season. I stand by my original 8-8 prediction. No 3rd down converting, can’t block, can’t move the ball really. I don’t want to see this team in the playoffs.

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Oct 18, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

8 wins would be optimistic

I think. With the schedule remaining, we maybe have 2 good chances for wins (Detroit and Buffalo), maybe a mediocre chance to beat the Vikes once and Redskins next week, slim-and-none chance of beating the Pack at Lambeau and the Dolphins in Miami, and absolutely NO CHANCE to beat the other teams (Pats, Jets).

Four more wins would be somewhat impressive with the way this team is going.

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by iowaBear on Oct 18, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

what makes you still believe we have a GOOD chance to beat DET?

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 18, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I agree they can mos def beat us

but honestly, and even though it seems like it was years ago that we played it, we could have won that first game by two touchdowns. We really outplayed them the whole game from top to bottom, but we characteristically were our own worst enemies. So, I’d still say we’ve got a good chance to beat them, but recognize we can lose to them fairly easily.

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by iowaBear on Oct 18, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think there are 4 more winnasble games on the schedule

Whether or not we’ll actually be coached in a position to win or we will actually win is a whole other thing. Redskins, Detroit, Vikings at Soldier Field are all winnable.

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Oct 18, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotcha

and agreed. And happy b-day! You don’t look a day over 25!

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by iowaBear on Oct 18, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha thanks

I’m 23 so I hope I don’t look over 25.

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Oct 18, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

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by Ashley Czuba on Oct 18, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want to see this team in the playoffs!

Go Bears!

(Unless you mean you don’t want to see us play like this once we get in the playoffs… then okay, yeah… haha)

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by Ashley Czuba on Oct 18, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's exactly what I mean.

Playoff teams usually have good defenses, good defenses get sacks. It could turn into the Giants game if the Bears showed up in the playoffs like this!

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Oct 18, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Real quick here

Can someone tell me the jist of how the tackles were asked to block down by double-teaming Seattle’s DTs all game long? To me, this was the biggest coaching blunder this season by Martz/Tice.

-D. Manning’s return should’ve stood; the only thing I saw was a great block by Wilson.

-Forte once again showed us that he’s not a tough inside runner. It makes me wonder why Martz didn’t call his TD play more than once?

-Pass rush was awful versus a bad pass-blocking line. Is this one of those Pepper’s takes a day off?

-Cutler had no time to throw those deep patterns…please see my first snippet.

-Plenty of holes in the much-maligned cover-2….please see second snippet.

-I’m finally admitting that I was wrong about Hester. He probably should’ve stayed as a returner and part-time WR.

-Briggs was missed. It sure seemed like the weakside was open all day for Lynch and Forsett to run through.

-Lost the field position badly, and a huge reason why they lost the game. What’s his face (Sea punter) had a stellar game pinning the Bears offense inside their twenty all game long.

Kudos to Bennett for making my and my friends’ day for his crushing block against the aforementioned punter on Hester’s TD (we didn’t think the Bears would recover the onside Gould is not a very good squib, onside, or any other specialized kick kicker).

-Tommie Harris still sucks. I’m surprised he’s still on the team opposed to Anderson.

All in all, it was another uninspired performance in a season filled with them.

This team plays well with a chip on their shoulder, and plays horribly when recognition is thrown their way. How about the entire team go through verbalization training everyday…..“we suck, and we’re not respected. Nor are we a good team.” Rinse and repeat!

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by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 10:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Briggs

I didn’t see the game but the few highlights I saw showed Seattle running away from Izzy’s side. I was very proud of Izzy until I realized they were just working over a weakness at lb. I am still proud of Izzy but I now I understand what was happening.

Holding on Peppers… again I didn’t see it but I have noticed the same issue with holding on James Harrison. Some players get no love from the officials.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 18, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

40 passes didn't work

because either a) Cutler couldn’t recognize the blitz, b) the line didn’t slide or fan block to the blitzers side, c) Martz simply called the wrong pass plays

Seattle held Forte to 11 yards on 8 carries. They play the run tough.

Cutler wasn’t very accurate.

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 18, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

im sure this time next season we wouldnt even be having this conversation
o line would have gotten it together
receivers used to running the routes
jay throwing on time to the right places
hopefully

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by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Oct 23, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

What I don't understand

Remember the Cowboys game and how Cutler was able to hit the quick outlet when under duress from the blitz? What happened Sunday. Isn’t the rule to throw to to the area from where the blitz originated? Except Sunday there was no receiver in that area. Total failure by coaches and players.

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by phastphil on Oct 18, 2010 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Over-confidence breeds failure

This team has consistently shown when the chips are down they perform well. On the contrary, they’re nothing short of awful when expectations are high.

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by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why in the name of Ditka...

were both Omi and Webb blocking down to help the guards with their assignments, but kept leaving the outside defensive rushers basically untouched throughout the game? I can understand if it happend once or twice, but it happend more than 5 times and there seemed to me no adjustment at all to stop it.

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Oct 18, 2010 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

For reals

It’s like they didn’t even glance to see a guy standing over their outside shoulders.

Or the assumed they had more help than they did.

by Arbusto on Oct 18, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha.

And because it will get edited, here’s the current text:

• 2010-2011
On October 17th, in a game against the Chicago Bears, he was absolutely blown up by Earl Bennett, a mediocre wide receiver. It was highly embarrassing for Ryan, one of the more storied tough men in NFL history.

by Dane Noble on Oct 18, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Who dubbed him "one of the most storied tough men in NFL history?"

I’m guessing someone just made it up, since on wiki people can just make up random stuff.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Total Amateur Writing too...

I used way too many commas in that first sentence.

by celerysalt on Oct 18, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Slight revision to your great update
On October 17th, in a game against the Chicago Bears, he was absolutely blown up by Earl Bennett, a mediocre wide receiver (cause that’s how the Chicago Bears like them). It was highly embarrassing for Ryan, one of the more storied tough men in NFL history.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 18, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Oct 18, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well done sir.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 18, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Almost 2pm CST

And still up.

You have made my day.

by Arbusto on Oct 18, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who would be constantly checking it?

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

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by Kev H on Oct 18, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't.

I just saw when this was posted here. And realized it’d been up a while. I figured a Wiki editor or somebody would be alerted at some point.

It’s still up that way.

by Arbusto on Oct 18, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

On the line

Most of the sacks came from not blocking someone rather than getting beat one on one, hopefully this means that improvement can happen.

by DaHamsta on Oct 18, 2010 2:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I watched the Waterboy last night

The Mud Dogs O-line is better than ours.

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by T.Moore on Oct 18, 2010 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

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