WCG Match-Up Post: Grades and Reviews for Week 6
It only took 6 weeks for Mad Mike to rear its ugly head. Last Sunday performance from a play calling perspective had to be one of the worst I have seen from a Bears offensive coordinator in all my time watching this team. After coming off the previous week successfully running the football, fans had to think that we would see a more balance attack with Jay Cutler coming back from a concussion. Instead we saw 39 to 14 pass run ratio in game that Seattle didn't pull away until 13:45 left in the fourth quarter. The two key plays last Sunday hands down was the inexcusable 7 step drop on their own 10 yard line that exposed Cutler to get sack and allow a safety to put Seattle up 3 points. The other play was another inexcusable 7 step drop that allows Cutler to get sack and knock the Bears out of field goal range, and prohibited the Bears from cutting the lead to one score.
My problem with this game and what has me concern is that Seattle wasn't doing anything special when it came to Blitzing and getting pressure. Re-watching this game, I got frustrated about Tice and Martz inability to adjust to the corner blitz. If you going to keep calling plays that require 7 step drops from the QB then at least give a RB or TE the assignment to pick up the blitzing corner instead of letting the man come scott free after the QB. Hopefully Tice and Martz are making this a point of emphasis during this week of practice, but you have to be concern about the offensive coaching staff not being to stop something so simple. Best believe they will face teams down the road that have more complex blitz schemes than what Seattle does.
He did a good job on Chris Clemons, but he and Webb continually crashed inside when it wasn't necessary. I have a little confidence in Omiyale picking this up during this week practices and walk thru.
I thought Williams played alright this past Sunday for someone that hasn't played left guard since College. My guess after Webb performance last Sunday is that they will shift Williams or Omiyale at right tackle for Sunday's game against the Redskins. If you ask me they should leave Williams at LG and start to build some continuity with this line. The reason why Williams was missing assignments on stunts was because of the lack of experience of him playing inside with Olin.
The Interior Line including Olin struggle with the inside stunts, but I also felt that Kreutz didn't have his best game diagnosing where the blitz's was coming from.
I honestly felt that Williams was alright in pass protection last Sunday. He showed me that he has the strength and enough lateral quickness to hold up in pass protection. He has to do a better job of picking up defensive lineman that are stunting inside, but that will come with Continuity.
Webb can develop into a future starting right tackle, but for right now he's just not ready. Too many times Webb was caught following the defensive lineman when he was stunting inside which allowed the cornerback a clear path to the QB. You would think a player would adjust to this on his own, but with it happening over and over again showed me that Webb is yet to give in to coaching. He also gets pushed back too much letting the defensive end get inside him while also not having his feet properly set. Tice should stick with this current group, but insert Shaffer back in at RT and let Webb sit and get the mental reps on the sidelines and in the film room.
Receivers need to do a better job of getting open, consistently catching the football, and also being able to run a hot route. It was a step up from the Giants game, but there is still room for improvement.
Bears Running Backs and Greg Olsen Grade D
Greg Olsen inability to get open last Sunday brought this grade down. There was one particular play where Olsen ran a seam route when he should have ran a hot route because his guy was blitzing. Forte and Taylor continue to be reliable catching out of the backfield, and Jay needs to start utilizing them more in the passing game.
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Anyone have a counter for how many times...
..the Bears hit Marshawn lynch at or behind the line of scrimmage and let him get 5 yards after?
I remember on one we had him for like a 7 yard loss and he turned it into a 1 yard gain.
What grade should we give our ability to tackle?
by PoopieDeLoopie on Oct 19, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I expected the D to be at a disadvantage playing a offense off a bye week,
that traded one of their primary receivers in Branch and added a running back around that time. The Bears didn’t have enough game tape on guys like Mike Williams and Deion Grant. At the same time the poor tackling was inexcusable.
by Dominique Blanton on Oct 19, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice write up.
Well done and spot on. Why did our tackles keep pinching toward the guards and allowing outside pressure? No one knows how to do their jobs on the line. That falls on guru #3 (4?) Tice. Let’s see ee have Marinelli the D line guru, Mike Tice the O-line guru, Mike Martz the offensive guru, and Dave Toub the only actual guru. Guess Tice is the 4th guru on this “great teaching” coaching staff. What a flipping joke. Of course it’s always nice to coach players with actual “talent” as compared to the bandages being put on the gaping flesh wounds that make up our line.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
+1,000,000...
The Bears “teaching” staff has had dubious results. While I don’t necessarily question their qualifications, I cannot say the results are commensurate with “guru” qualifications!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
The two 'inexcusables'
If just one of them doesn’t occur, at least holding all other points equal, the Bears might have been tied at the end of regulation.
Indeed, completely boneheaded and idiotic. With two running backs who could have got us positive yardage in EACH of those situations, the playcalling in those situations could turn out to be catastrophic for this season.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
I wonder how many of you got your coaching credentials at a corner bar?
At the beginning of the game our pass/run ratio was more balanced, why didn’t they stick to it? We fell behind and the running game was getting no yards. Why run to the outside? Maybe because there was no where to run inside. Why because we have 1 second stringer and 4 third stringers playing on the offensive line. To run up the middle our 200lb. running backs would not only have to push through 290 Dlinemen and 250 Linebacker but also our 300lb O-linemen. Just who do you think those guys are? For a balanced attack to work you need to get at least 4 yards per carry so you don’t have to face 3rd and long. Here is what your asking for….run 1st and 2nd down for a total of 3 yards then a short pass on 3rd down then punt on 4th and short. 3 & out ad nausea. And we average about 10 pts. Per game thanks to our Special Teams and Defense We lose the rest of our schedule by average scores or 10-14 and at the end of the season we can all take heart in having a good defense. A 4-12 season would give us some good draft choices but first Phillips, Angelo, and Lovie have to go and once they are replaced everyone else has to go. And I mean everyone. Rebuild the team from the top down and wait 5 years to see if we hired the right replacement team.
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 19, 2010 10:36 PM CDT reply actions
Preach it!
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 19, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
What Lester said....
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 20, 2010 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Completely disagree with your assessment on the run pass ratio thing
Just because it doesn’t work on a few carries you don’t give up and go away from the game plan. Did you notice Lynch ypc? 3.1 is that great? no, put they kept giving him the rock to set up the play action passes which helped bring the lb’s and Mike Willaims one on one coverage all day and made him look all pro. Their play action passing worked because they stuck with the run and didn’t give up. We gave up and became one dimensional and when they didn’t have to worry about us running anymore then they teed off with no fear of the run.
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
Some drives have to be sacrificed to set up later drives
especially with this offense. That is why field position is so important and we lost that battle as well.
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
You can run the ball all day behind this line and no one will fear it
You don’t have to load the box with 8 guys to stop our running attack 6 will do leaving little open for your “play action pass”. We don’t have a power runner, our guys are not going to break tackles for extra yardage they are going to continue to get 1 or 2 yards per carry and rarely break a big one which will mean 3 and out over and over and over. If we could average 3 yds a carry we would have easily won that game the attack was balanced at the beginning of the game it just didn’t work. How many times have we failed to score from the 1 yard line this year? There is an up side to your plan is it will guarantee Angelo and Lovie will be gone next year and Jay will live to play another year.
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 20, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't need to "power run"
Just mix it up a little bit. Run some sweeps. Some counters. Occasionally go power. Work in the Screen. The Slant. Short, quick passes underneath the defense. The same things that kill our defense will generally kill most defenses if run correctly. I haven’t seen a corner route run in the red zone yet this season. What about those little QB head fakes during a run that freeze the secondary? Or maybe bootlegging it a little bit more? There are so many options for an NFL style offense to run that it’s a bloody shame that it seems like the same 3 or 4 plays are being run ad nauseum.
News Flash---This Just In
Fat arse beer guzzling armchaired QB’s discover Rick Mirer gained some weight bleached his hair and reentered the NFLas Jay Cutler please give us Kyle Orton back so that we can lose with some dignity!!
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 19, 2010 10:48 PM CDT reply actions
He looked great last week didn't he??
next..and how is he in the red zone this year?? ugly
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
I think you "got" the point
still a lot of kyle backers keep showing up with memory loss as to how bad he sucked when he was here. You can point out his winning record here and I’ll point you to a Defense with Mike Brown that actually won those games not Kyle.
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 20, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Flash Foward
2011 Jay Cutler rooting for the Bears from his wheelchair!!
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 19, 2010 10:50 PM CDT reply actions
Haven't several other posters already done the same write up?
I mean really, we get it, people don’t like Mike Martz. Just the same, no offense is going to succeed behind this offensive line unless the individual match ups allow it. This was a front page worthy article?
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
I like Mike Martz
we just don’t have the personnel to run his system.
with the right personnel Ron Turner could do a good job.
I like Lovie Smith good defensive coach very effective with a ball control Offensive.
I hate Jerry Angelo’s personnel strategy and I think it will take years for this team to recover from his incompetence.
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 19, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
BeerCub, if you actually read through the post and click on the links that I provided for you, then you
would see that this is not a bash Mike Martz post. Actually if you read the title of the posts you would understand that.
by Dominique Blanton on Oct 20, 2010 3:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention the "Grades posts" has been your thing this season
Some have been copying that.
How about "Hot reads easier in Martz system when you have a legit #1 WR"
or maybe “Jay Cutler holding the ball too long because he doesn’t trust his WR’s to get to the spot he is suppose to throw the ball to ahead of the DB’s”
How about “We need to dump Robbie Gould and get a kicker who can make 60yd FG’s”
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 19, 2010 11:00 PM CDT reply actions
How can you be so sure it's the receivers who are in the wrong place and not Cutler looking to the wrong place?
I’m not saying it is the case, but it amazes me that nobody ever wants to blame any miscommunication on the QB. It’s as if someone came down and annointed Cutler as perfect no matter what the circumstances. This isn’t a knock on Cutler, because I do think he’s talented, but he has still yet to prove that he’s a great QB in the NFL. Please don’t spout off his “Pro Bowl” year because he still didn’t have a winning team that year either and you can go through a junk pile of QB’s (or any position for that matter) who were “elected” to a Pro Bowl once in their careers and most people wouldn’t even recognize their names.
No, I’m not a Cutler hater but I am a realist and until he proves that he can be consistant and get us to the playoffs, it’s still just potential. I’m not saying he can do it by himself or that he should be expected to do it with this O-line unless they all of a sudden “get it”, but I get tired of everyone assuming the receivers are always the ones that are at fault when there is miscommunication. Unless some of the people on this site are actually on the Bears coaching staff and have access to coaches films and know exactly where each player should be, we don’t know who messed up.
Because he apparently got his coaching credentials at the corner bar.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
I stand corrected.....
on another note, have we ever received the winners for the pick-em games for the two weeks we had that program……I know, either tomorrow or the day after that.
I'm not even allowed to win....
and I still want to know the results. And more importantly, the prize!
But tomorrow for sure. Or the next day….
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
or maybe he is just as clueless as some of the contributing writers around here.
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 20, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually have coaching credentials but...
Just because none of us are in the NFL doesn’t mean we don’t have opinions that are legitimate.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
so do I
but back when I coached the “Head Slap” was still legal.
my credentials don’t look like much next Martz’s, or Lovie’s or everyone else actually coaching for the Bears right now and I don’t think yours do either.
You can only coach players, you can’t play for them not to mention you can’t bestow talent where it doesn’t exist.
Our guys on offense are just winning their individual battles and that includes the receivers, linemen, running backs, and QB. and thats both physical and mental.
Everyone knows its easier to Pass when you can run, and easier to run when you can pass. What if you can’t do either? Perhaps it would be better to run the ball more, go for field position and hope your D and ST’s can win for you.
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 20, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh and I agree completely.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
we don't really know because we only see what they give us on TV
We don’t see the game film the coaches do, we don’t have a copy of the playbook, we don’t hear whats going on in the huddle, we don’t know the 35 calls Kreutz can make for blocking schemes. We don’t see the game from Jay’s point of view (looking between a bunch of massive guys trying to flatten you) fact is we only know a fraction of whats really going on, we just know that whatever it is its not working.
We have a relatively inexperienced receiving corp working a new offense.
we have a QB working with his 3rd OC in 3 years.
has anyone noticed that Jay is not trowing INT’s like last year? even if you add in 2 or 3 close calls. Is taking a sack better than throwing an INT? Is it better to hold the ball and hope you get a chance to make a play or throw it away quick if you don’t see anything?
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 20, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed - 62bearsthe best
"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott
Agreed that jay is holding the ball too long
he has to take part of the blame. Not sure alot of the plays being sent in have a guy running a short route though..no one to throw to quick with a 7 step drop.
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
If Sean Payton took a salary cut last season
to get a DC that he wanted and got them a SB win, why doesn’t Lovie Dobbie, Mad Mike Martz and Jerry Airhead Angelo (along with Ted “The Legend” Phillips) have their own salary cut so we can get Logan Mankins?
re: continuity on the line
Do folks think its better to keep trodding out this sad o-line as-is? I do think continuity will help them…but I also don’t think Webb is ready for prime-time at all (not his fault…he’s a rookie 7th round pick). Would we be better served making one more overhaul (Williams back to LT, Omiyale back to RT, slide Louis back in at a guard spot) and keeping them all there (until Garza returns), or should we stay the course with the current line?
If we had a new coaching staff
They would most likely run the ball a lot because its active rather than reactive.
But, there is no next year for these guys, its win now or join the unemployment line.
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 20, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree on all the hot route talk
but does anyone really know if they are allowed to defer their original route in Martz offense or if this is something Cutler should be communicating to the wr/te at the line depending on his read of the defense? This would be a great article if we want to take an in depth look at the Martz offense and Cutler’s ability to defer at the line.
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
totally agree w/ the grades...
The play calling was definitely the worst I’ve seen so far this year. As I said in other posts, I just dont understand why Martz continues to call 5-7 step drop plays time and time again when he knows the O-line cant block for that long for the play to develop. He very rarely calls short pass plays or screens, but when he does, they seem to work most of the time. Now I’m one of those guys that wants a more “balanced attack”…but it doesnt hafta be 50/50 ratio. You gotta keep the defense honest. 80/20 is pretty predictable, especially when half of your running plays were in the 1st quarter…
Can I suggest a new grade? How about EF for epic fail?
sometimes giving someone a F is just not good enough.
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 20, 2010 1:10 PM CDT reply actions

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