Numbers Tell the Tale; a Horrific Tale

I’m just saying statistically he isn’t playing bad, unlike last year.

and OK Jay Cutler is not Peyton Manning, but who is.

Manning is allowed to call play audibles, protection, routes etc. From what we hear Cutler is allowed none of those just hope his players recognize and do what they are supposed to…. and it seems they are not.

Haugh said on CTL there was a SMALL chance of martz getting fired if the offense does not improve before / by the bye week…..

it was a simple hypothetical question.

since this coaching/FO staff basically new it was win now or you’re gone, why would you choose an OC that has a system that notoriously takes more than a season to pick up fully. I know the people will come out who will say look at improvement with Kitna and Alex Smith but neither of those teams produced a winning record in that first season. That’s not Martz’ fault and those teams, like our Bears, had a lot of weaknesses so to expect a complete turnaround in one season was unrealistic at the very least.

I made this comment when the choice was made that I thought it was a bad decision based on this fact. To me, a team who is rebuilding and doesn’t expect to contend for a couple of years is where Martz’ system is better suited. Even though I really was tired of Turner and Hiesand, if I were Lovie, under the circumstances, I would have kept them on for another year and give Cutler the benefit of having the same system for two consecutive years and I’ve always felt that would give them the best chance to contend for the NFC North title this year.

THIS DOESN’T MEAN I THINK TURNER IS A BETTER OC THAN MARTZ!!! Again, I just think that under the circumstances it would have been the better route to take if the “win now” claims that Bears’ ownership made after the season are true.

Lovie dumped Ron Rivera then he got rid of Thomas Jones and gave away Chris Harris for awhile then he dumped Alex Brown, these were all good players who could have helped the Bears and instead hires his cronies (Archuletta, Pace) who let him down all the time.

He is stubborn as a mule. If we had a better coach we could have done a whole lot better.

I expect better than a tad over .500 win %. Maybe its just me but with the most historic franchise, revenue, and time we should be a better football team. Lovie is the head coach and 500 doesn’t cut it in my opinion. Also the steady decline is more than a bit alarming.

The first 3 years are fine, but then he takes a team, who was one of the youngest in the NFL at the time, from SB appearance to a losing record with essentially same group. Then he misses the playoffs again because his team and players were unprepared for the last game of the season against the Texans who had nothing to play for. The following year they make one of the biggest off-season moves in the history of the NFL by getting Cutler and, don’t forget signing Orlando Pace (who I would have to think Lovie had a lot of input on)and actually went backwards. Throw in some of the decisions regarding his coaching staff (Rivera, Babich, Lovie as DC) and former players (Archuletta and Pace) and I think the bashing has merit.

His 2 playoff appearances were with teams that were largely built around players from Mark Hatley and Dick Jauron but since Lovie signed his new deal and has had more say in the overall team, they have regressed. Let me stress that I am not absolving Angelo for poor personnel decisions in any way but we can’t let Lovie slide in this area either. This year, obviously, still has to play itself out but with what’s happened the last 3 weeks, it’s starting to go the other way. Hopefully, they can turn it back around against Washington and Buffalo.

In 6 full seasons Lovie has 2 playoff births

Berths. If he did become a father twice during the playffs, though, that might explain (if not excuse) his performance as a head coach.

If Jerry goes, it should also renew the interest of the fan base in this team.

My guess is even if the effects aren’t physical, the mental has to be playing a little bit. Knowing you are going to get pummeled about every other play by some 300+ dude can’t be settling on the nerves.

i posted elsewhere here in WCG that i simply could not believe that Martz got stupid overnight, and that includes his schemes. like JM said, you’ve got to have the right personnel and clearly we are lacking a working O line. what is possible is that we have found out that Martz is a scheme based Offensive Coordinator, and not a results based OC. meaning that he is a slave to his own schemes and finds it really hard to adapt to the talent he has to work with. i think most coaches are that way at times.