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The Bears Den: October 21, 2010

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...where we will be forced to root for the Packers this weekend.

Mike Martz speaks up for the first time since the loss to Seattle

GM Jerry Angelo sits down with Larry Mayer for his weekly Q/A.

Mike Tice is quite the wordsmith in this article from Sean Jensen.

Jensen also said that the "bend but don't break" defense needs a rest.

Follow WCG on Twitter... it provides more protection than the Bears OL.

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Matt Bowen weighs in on the NFL's decision to crack down on violent hits.

The Sexy Beast says he expects boos in return to Chicago, but has good memories

Jay Cutler says that audibles are not necessary in the Martzfense.

Roberto Garza had been playing with a significant injury the last three weeks.

Detroit QB Stafford on schedule to return Halloween from Peppersitis.

Green Bay LB Clay Matthews to return this Sunday against the Vikings.

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Bear down Chicago!
Give it up for the boys in blue, USAF

by Jonathan Thompson on Oct 21, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry

I can’t help but think the title of the den says something about rooting for the Packers. never.

whether or not Green Bay people understand enough about football to realize the rivalry, or not, I hate them, and will never “root” for the Packers.

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 21, 2010 8:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Why would we want the packers to win?

They are currently a game behind us, whereas Minnesota is a game and a half. I’d rather have Minnesota win especially since we still play them twice and the bears can control their own destiny by beating them both times.

by lopey986 on Oct 21, 2010 9:03 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I'd rather see Minny lose this week to the Pack,

and the North being a two-team battle between us and GB, rather than the three of us all potentially getting buched up together.

Minny could very well end up being 3-6 by the second time they play GB, which would undoubtedly have them missing the playoffs this year.

by Dane Noble on Oct 21, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

We hate Brett Favre.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Oct 21, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

All 4 inches of him.

But I’m for whatever gives the Bears the best chance of winning the North. I’d rather see GB and Minny each with 3 wins than GB with 4, cuz I think GB is a better team.

So… (urp)… go Minny?

by oripunk3485 on Oct 21, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol
All 4 inches of him.

by rdent4hof on Oct 22, 2010 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

rather the queens

Lose every game they can, cause this bears team doesn’t look like it can beat them once, let alone twice.

by mike b on Oct 21, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also, a comparative strength of schedule:

Vikes have this remaining after GB 1:

Cards, Bears, GB, Skins, Bills, Eags

The Pack have this:

Jets, Boys, MN, Falcons, Niners,

Both have:

Bears, Pats, Giants, Lions.

The Vikes have gimmes in Cards and Bills, the Pack have a gimme in the Niners. Other than that… which schedule would you prefer not to face?

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.

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by Robert Rence on Oct 21, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I appreciate the respect.

But I can in no way endorse rooting for the Packers. If it had been the Pack against the 18 – 0 Pats, I would’ve rooted for the Pats

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.

Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

by Robert Rence on Oct 21, 2010 9:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Um yeah ...
“On the field,” Tice said, “they don’t speak because they’re not positive they know what they know what they think they know that they know, and unfortunately, if they would just believe themselves, they’d be right, nine out of 10 times.”

What? The whole Tice article reads like this … no wonder the offensive line looks like a bunch of cerebral leprechaun’s out there – they have no idea what the hell they’re supposed to be doing and neither does the guy coaching them.

I’m sure Tice is a decent coach, but c’mon. This group of guys are just flat out bad and it seems as if Tice as well as Martz is just confusing the hell out of them that when they get on the field they have no idea what to do.

by junkhorse on Oct 21, 2010 9:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Well...

There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don’t know we don’t know.

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.

Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

by Robert Rence on Oct 21, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent...

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!

"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"

by LostInSTL on Oct 21, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lol

it’s pretty well known that Tice is a good line coach, and his play mean, call people out attitude really should set well with most Bears fans, since that’s the primary anti-Lovie complaint I see…but the man is not an English major, that much is for certain.

I think he has very limited talent on the OL. It’s either too young/inexpeienced, or too old and slow.

by Virto on Oct 21, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

^

that should read “sit well with most Bears fans”

Mah Inglish r gud

by Virto on Oct 21, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kreutz is the only old guy

The rest are green beyond words. No communication on your home field is a bad pre-cursor for when they play on the road, especially domes. Minny’s defense will kill Cutler when they play up there.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 21, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

From the Martz article on the team's site; on the safety that was
"Not putting them in that position when you’re backed up is the other issue," Martz said. "What we thought was a safe protection, they gave us a blitz that we hadn’t seen before and they got us.

"We could have run the ball as well, and that is part of the issue too. We have to be smarter about those kinds of things. We were in good shape in that game and that put us in a bit of arrears."

Not “they got us” and not “that put us in arrears”

You got us, with your playcall and you put us in arrears. Come on Martz, accountability.

by rdent4hof on Oct 21, 2010 10:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Idk if anyone saw this a week ago

But Link Goes Pop

^ Pete Prisco analyzes why OLines all across the NFL are struggling.

Bear down Chicago!
Give it up for the boys in blue, USAF

by Jonathan Thompson on Oct 21, 2010 10:20 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I know I'm gonna get "Rex'd" for this...

But the more I listen to him, the more I actually like Mark Schlereth.

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by David Taylor on Oct 21, 2010 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

He was awesome on the topic of the big hit.

I think it would be incredible if on Sunday every team agreed that for the first two series they go completely no contact. Just let each team run one in for a TD while the opposing defenses just sit back. Send the message.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Oct 21, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

His stance on the big/illegal hits and the fining and suspension of players was amazing when I heard it on SC and Mike and Mike. As much hate as he gets around here, he earned some points in my book with the fire and passion he put into that argument.

WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!

by Acreman20 on Oct 21, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't suppose there's a link to his rant this week?

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.

Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

by Robert Rence on Oct 21, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ask and you shall

Receive

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Oct 21, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks a bunch.

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.

Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

by Robert Rence on Oct 21, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah I won't mess with you

I liked him a bit more this week. The less he talks about Cutler the more I like him.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 21, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

My question

And to be fair, I never really paid much attention to him before, but was he saying a lot of invalid stuff? Or just stuff that we (as Bears’ fans) didn’t want to hear?

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by David Taylor on Oct 21, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly I think he was saying stuff we didn't want to hear.

When he talked about anything else other than the Bears he sounded somewhat knowledgeable and intelligent, then he’s say something dumb about Cutler and BANG he’s a douche.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 21, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually smudgers, you get a wreck

I saw the same thing and I whole heartedly agreed with everything he said (on THAT subject).

by rdent4hof on Oct 22, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

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