Ugly Football Quick Recap: Redskins Outlast Bears
by Dane Noble on Oct 24, 2010 3:14 PM CDT
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At one point, it could have been said that neither the Chicago Bears nor the Washington Redskins wanted to take advantage of the other's mistakes. Well, the Bears found a way to force their will upon the Redskins, by turning the ball over on back-to-back-to-back-to-back possessions in the fourth quarter.
The defense looked good, but could not overcome the mistakes of the offense. Sound familiar Chicago fans?
Quick stats:
Jay Cutler: 26/ 40, 281 yds, 1 TD, 4 INTs
Forte/ Taylor: 13 carries/ 61 yds
Johnny Knox: 6 rec, 86 yds, 1 TD
Israel Idonije: 5 tackles, 1 sack, 2 pass deflections
Charles Tillman: 8 tackles
Offensive 3rd down conversions: 2/10
Turnovers: 6
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They are doing a very elaborate and convincing subterfuge
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
The 4 seed is a pretty powerful position.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 24, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
"My theory"
The Bears Refs just want to keep the conference race interesting.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Why stop there?
If Knox gets his head out of his third-point-of-contact and actually follows through on his routes, we aren’t discussing the refs. If Forte breaks away on a couple of runs, we aren’t talking about the refs. If, if, if.
21 points would be talked about, regardless.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
So many other things that Bears PLAYERS could have done that the refs don’t matter in the grand scheme of things.
Except that the Bears lost by 3 and just one of those calls....
not being thrown means a Bears win. I wouldn’t be complaining about refs for one mistake, and the Bears are in trouble, regardless. But this game, without truly poor officiating, is a Bears win. Period.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
are you serious?
the Bears didn’t deserve to win that game – they actually gave it away. Defensively, they played well, but good god man, did you watch Cutler today? did you see the offensive line? the turnovers?! the refs didn’t lose that game for the Bears … the goddamn Bears lost the game.
False.
Anytime your defense holds the opponent to 10 points AND scores a touchdown, you should win. No exceptions.
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Exactly....
This whole “we didn’t deserve to win” crap is just that. Crap. Deserve has nothing to do with it.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Deserve.
By blaming the refs you’re saying the Bears deserved to win the game.
Don't Blame the Refs.
That’s ridiculous.
Agreed that you should win with a defensive TD, but you don’t think a horrible offense can ruin that?
Remember 2005?
How can you blame the refs???
So, you didn't watch the game, then?
The Bears could definitely have dome more, and there is plenty of blame to go around. But ignoring the fact that, had the refs called the game correctly on a number of occations, the Bears would have won. Not might have, but would. Just look at the Cutler TD turned fumble, which was wrong for two reasons. 1) the ball broke the plane, which makes it a TD and the play is dead. And 2) forward progress had long been dead before the ball came out. Those 7 points alone win the game. Period.
That doesn’t exonerate the Bears Offense of it’s horrible play. Not in the least. But that is two different discussions. Did the Bears offense play horribly? Yep. But would the Bears have won if the refs had done their jobs correctly? Yes.
It’s really that simple.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 26, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed ... but
blaming refs and crying about it the entire thread says:
“we woulda won if those guys didn’t blow the calls …”
BS.
???
So if the Bears had just the 7 points from the Cutler TD turned fumble, the Bears wouldn’’t have won? By what math?
It’s a simple statement of fact. It doesn’t exonerate the offense of their issues. But the point is that it’s bad enough to try to overcome a horrid offensive effort without also trying to overcome horrid officiating.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 26, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
If not more
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
by GriggsBriggs on Oct 24, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
You're really going to talk about the refs
when they handed the Green Bay and Detroit games to the Bears? If not for that the Bears would be 2-4 right now.
Refs handed neither game to the Bears.
Johnson call was the right call (but a bad rule) and the GB game was GB being GB. Boneheaded mistakes by the Pack. Thanks for playing, sorry there are no parting gifts.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
they held peppers nearly every play
it could have been worse
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
Everybody holds Pep on every play
the refs aren’t going to call it.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 25, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought that I was the only one that thought the refs screwed us too.
Probably makeup calls from week 1
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
How?
Week one was a good call of a lousy rule. Doesn’t exactly relate to horrible calls of good rules, like forward progress and breaking the plane.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 26, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
i have never
seen worse officiating in a game in my life. we should have won this game by 3 touchdowns.
It's almost basketball like in its brazenness
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
Can anyone find video of this? I was getting a snack I'd really like to see it
Vic Koenning is my homeboy.
by pygreg on Oct 24, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This ones on Jay
Those picks were uncalled for, he zoned in on Knox who disappointed.
Lovie should have challenege the cutler fumble because that was a td
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
not all of them were on jay
heck, 3 of them the receivers coulda made a play
(did tht just rhyme?whoa)
True, but the problem I have with Jay
is that when he is going to a receiver, he KNOWS he’s going to a receiver, no matter if they seem open or not. And because he stares them down, everyone else tends to figure out who he’s going to as well.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Makes me think this offense is too complicated
gotta know where you’re going b/c you throw to spots.
whole thing is strange. i miss the west coast offense, i think.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
True
But at some point this is going to become a habit, if it hasn’t already.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Nice job on the SF FO...
They can still win the division…?
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 24, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Their owner even guaranteed it a week loss or two ago, i think…
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
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I'm not one to generally.....
complain about refs. I’m usually one to say that the Bears shouldn’t have been in a position for the game to rest on the refs. But a 21 point differential is ridiculous. Period.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 3:19 PM CDT reply actions
Oooh, I can do Glen Beck math!
The three points we lost by, multiplied by 7 points for each td (and PAT) they represent = 21!
by Arbusto on Oct 24, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
For the holy trinity.
of ditka, halas, and butkus. 7(3). it has to be!
No, I do remember T-Train’s math somewhere in the gamethread…
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 24, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
That sounds more like Arbusto math to me.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
21.
Cutler crossed the plane. Refs waited til after the defensive td 2 plays later to suddenly decide to throw the delay penalty. and Halls TD should have been called back because of Hainesworths block on Webb that resulted in a Webb PF.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Um.
Maybe we have very different standards for what qualifies as “bad officiating”.
In a pig pile, they get those wrong all the time. Jay manages not to fumble and we get another chance, no one gives a shit about the sneak working or not.
The flag was a little late on that one (and that rule is one of the most annoying) but not any later than I’ve seen it before.
And its always ALWAYS the second guy who gets flagged on a play like that.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
On the Cutler TD, they.....
showed the replay down both lines, and it is clear and easy to see down both lines. So neither of the refs saw it? and that isn’t bad officiating to you?
And while it is always the second guy, it wasn’t like the Hainesworth shot was subtle. Missing it was egregious at best.
Most delay penalties get whistled dead before the play, not after the defense has scored a TD.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously?
“I saw it on my slo-mo zoomed in HD screen, how did the refs miss it in that pile of 300lb men”!
Those plays ALWAYS get missed. And Jay fumbled. Thats on Jay not the refs.
I’ve seen delay of games called later than that one and while its ANNOYING to have the wind sucked out of you after such a big play, thats the rule.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Jay fumbled....
after breaking the plane. That’s not a fumble, that’s a TD. He extended the ball the way he was supposed to, and the play should have been over then. The play was clear from both sidelines, period. excuse the bad officiating, if you want. I just wish Virginia would shell out some Snyder Ref money once in a while for a win, too.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
you were on the sideline? You saw it?
Hope you sucker punched Martz while you were there.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Funny.
I only wish. ;)
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
blame Lovie
he challenged Bennett’s non-TD, we lost momentum on the drive – he should have challenged Cutler’s TD/fumble but couldn’t because he just bombed the previous challenge.
Why couldn't he challenge the TD/fumble?
Don’ t you get two challenges a game? I know that he’d just lost one on the previous play, but it’s obvious that scoring that TD changes the course of the game.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Oct 24, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
False.
He could have challenged, just didn’t.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
And, just because you've seen...
refs screw up before doesn’t make it OK for refs to screw up again. what kind of argument is that? “Eh, it’s OK. They have screwed that one up before.” I wish my boss would have that attitude.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You're calling it the worst of all time
I’m saying “meh, par for the course”.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I'd say that if it were just a call.
but there were a number of calls that did, not could have but did, directly give the game to the ’Skins. One is a common mistake, two is bad but forgivable. But this was atrocious.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The bears played like hot garbage
blaming the refs for being in bad positions, depending on someone ELSE to make a play is how you get beat in this league.
so rail on the refs if you want. i’ll stew over the fact that the bears are maybe even worse than i expected.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Oct 24, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Don't get me wrong, Allie.
I’m completely with you on the team. Playing like hot garbage was very generous. I’m just saying that the Bears didn’t need to play against the Refs and the Redskins.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed, this was just a bad game
From both teams, they were just less bad.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
The worst part....
was I went to the Pitt/Miami game at that time and the brain dead line judge down there ruled Big Ben had scored at the goal line despite:
A) Big Ben’s back was turned to him, making it impossible to see the football
B) Ben didn’t have the ball
Meanwhile, Cutler sticks the ball out plain in sight of the two retards as line judges and they don’t see a thing. And Lovie’s just as brain dead, how does one not challenge a turnover/potential score?
This↑
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy crap! I saw that and was just blown away
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
That was a TD
Plain as freakin day. The only time I blame the refs is in the NBA. But this is a poorly called game
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
I don't see it that way
1st TD attempt: Bennet didn’t quite get it in before he was down. No TD.
2nd TD attempt: Cutler clearly breaks the plane for the TD; refs call it a fumble and give it to the skins. Bears staff compounds problem by not challenging. ROBBED 7 points.
3rd TD attempt: Interception is run back in for obvious TD. Then Refs call it back for Skins delay of game. Totally sucks, but they were within the sucky rule that allows a team (Skins) to benefit from its own mistake.
Other assorted crap is imaginary penalty on Webb and other little calls and non calls. But the cutler non-TD is concrete and would have won us the game.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
I never said anything about Bennett.
That was clearly not a TD.
I agree that the delay was the right call. I just question why the play was run, then. That is a play that should have been whistled dead at the snap. But the ref waited for the play to finish before calling it. I think it’s poor officiating and it hurt momentum.
I listed the actual third play above.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, i see what you mean now.
Refs waited til after the defensive td 2 plays later to suddenly decide to throw the delay penalty
The phrasing of that sentence confused me at first (making me think you were confused) but i know what you mean. And then you’re saying -7 Bears, where we lost the Cutler TD, then -7 bears where we lost the defensive TD, and then +7 Skins where they should have been called back for Haynesworth/Webb.
So if you do that math, it’s 21 points misery for us. But in reality, it wouldn’t have been cumulative if the refs did the right thing; the cutler TD would have prevented the defensive TD situation from occurring. But who cares? The refs sucked almost as much as both teams did.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
This is the second game the other team has benefitted from something like that
Remember the Seahawks fumble that happened after a false start call last week?
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
by GriggsBriggs on Oct 24, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
yea wtf
losing is bad but when it’s the refs making bad calls it makes it so much worse
by Staleystan595455 on Oct 24, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The bills/ravens game is on cbs right now. 8 seconds left.
Bills have the ball. 31 to 34, Ravens lead.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
50 yd attempt
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
is good! It's a tie!!
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
In my best Townie voice...
“We suck again.”
Seriously, as bad as today was, it’s still only one game. Gotta try to stay positive or this year’s going to feel WAY longer than it actually is.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
If this were the first time they looked like crap
I’d go with you on the “its one game” mantra.
But the Bears look like crap every game. And before they managed to overcome it because they didn’t make dumb mistakes, but that didn’t work today.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
This is true.
Just don’t want to give up yet. As bad as we’ve looked, the rest of the North has looked just as bad. There is still a chance.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
"the Bears look like crap every game"
Really? Naww. They looked great in Dallas, decent against GB, and decent against the Lions.
Against the Panthers everyone except Collins looked good… So i don’t get where you’re comming from when you say they look like crap every game.
They have proven they can win, and find ways to win. They just have to put everything together and do it.
13. It's a magic number
Damn woke up half an hour ago
I have a hangover and this doesn’t make it any better. Fuck. I dont know what to say. Lovie should drill into these guys during the bye week or else hes out. As for today go Vikings (shoots self in head).
48 minutes of intensity
Water, and lots of it, is the secret remedy.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
That sounds like you’re giving him a recipe for soup. Not that you shouldn’t. Just sayin’.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
I usually drink coke.
Don’t think it helps at all for a hangover, but it tastes damn good with one.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
Jupe's correct
Hangovers are caused by your brain being dehydrated. If you’ve got a heavy night of drinking planned, make sure you drink a lot of water before you hit the hay. Stay away from caffiene and salt and you’ll be better soon.
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
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by Robert Rence on Oct 24, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
When I go back to my hotel room knowing I'm going to regret my beverage decisions the next day,
…I fill up all the little hotel room plastic cups with water and put them by the bed so I can suck them down all night.
I’m right as rain at 6am and ready to do bizzness!
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
Not just dehydration,
but a lack of vitamins in the system. Milk will help cure a hangover much faster than water.
Sprite. And a dip cone from Dairy Queen.
And a handful of Tylenol before bed.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Oct 24, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Not tylenol, bro!
That’s acetaminophen, which is a bit of a challenge for your liver even under normal circumstances. Combined with excess alcohol intake, and you are really putting your liver thru the wringer and can damage it permanently.
Take Ibuprofen or aspirin if you have more than 2 drinks. Srsly.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
UGH! I hate those hangovers where at first you think you're hungover
and then you realize you’re actually still drunk.
(LOL! listen to me talkin’ like I’m still in engineering school)
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
if denver wins today
we’ll have a whole slew of them over here bashing cutler.
frankly i’m tired of the denver fans doing it, because they’re in no better shape than us. Hell, they’re in worse shape cause they wasted those 1st rounders we gave them.
I got a funny feeling they wont be around ...
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
Why, does every loss make you want to talk to Broncos fans?
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
I don't think they are missing Jay Cutler too much
Despite the sorry team that they have.
48 minutes of intensity
yup, he's got 0 yds, 0 TDs, 1 Int. Worth -1 pts on Yahoo FF.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
As someone who lives in Denver...
but roots for the Bears, I don’t think you have to worry about Donkeys fans coming over here today. I think they have 59 reasons to stay away.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Oct 24, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Schadenfreude is a delicious thing. It makes our own situation that little bit more bearable.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~
someone asked
why landry leads the league in tackles as a safety
its because he can play in the box…. HIS CORNERS CAN COVER enough
I hate the rain. Rain falls in this world, too. When your heart is in chaos, the sky becomes clouded. When you are sad, rain falls so terribly easily. Can you understand, the horror of being pelted by rain in this solitary world? If only to stop that rain, I shall lend you any strength. If you trust in me, I will let no rain fall in this world, trust me. You are not fighting alone.
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Oct 24, 2010 3:28 PM CDT reply actions
im glad they gonna legalize bud
soon
least i’ll have something to look forward too
I hate the rain. Rain falls in this world, too. When your heart is in chaos, the sky becomes clouded. When you are sad, rain falls so terribly easily. Can you understand, the horror of being pelted by rain in this solitary world? If only to stop that rain, I shall lend you any strength. If you trust in me, I will let no rain fall in this world, trust me. You are not fighting alone.
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Oct 24, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions
Bill Brady
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
by GriggsBriggs on Oct 24, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
its close in denver
but i dont drink @ ditka
so i need something to hold me over since the bears arent playing football this season
I hate the rain. Rain falls in this world, too. When your heart is in chaos, the sky becomes clouded. When you are sad, rain falls so terribly easily. Can you understand, the horror of being pelted by rain in this solitary world? If only to stop that rain, I shall lend you any strength. If you trust in me, I will let no rain fall in this world, trust me. You are not fighting alone.
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Oct 25, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Can we stop talking about how everything is OK because....
we were 4-2 yet? The Bears started 3-0, true enough. But they are 1-3 over the past 4, and I’m thinking it’s time to put away the 4-3 argument.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 3:34 PM CDT reply actions
thought we
In Chicago were all being too hard?
by mike b on Oct 24, 2010 3:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd Get Used to it
Because I fully expect that on January 3 the Bears brass will march out and give the 4-1 start as the reason the coaching staff is returning. I know this organization well enough to know they’ll cop out and use that as an excuse to bring them back and not own up to the fact that it’s the labor dispute that really edged them to keep the staff. 1 more year of this crap.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Oct 25, 2010 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm assuming he's talking about California, where Im based
Prop 19 will do the trick
48 minutes of intensity
Fortunately, I live in Alaska. :)
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
The 6th turnover of a half should just trigger a forfeit
I had to listen to most of the second half on the radio. Poor Thayer just seemed ready to suit up and go in at guard.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
Yup, of all the teams to be talking shit to us
they really cant say anything.
48 minutes of intensity
how the hell did they do that in the first 6 minutes of the game??
That might be worth checking out on NFL Rewind.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
Why do you hold onto the Orton grudge so much?
Can’t both teams suck or succeed independantly?
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
It’s the stream of Denver trolls that we had over here, whining about Cutler dumping them. They deserve everything that’s happening to them, frankly.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
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I'm usually on both MHR and WCG
And I hardly see any cross over anymore. Maybe a year ago, but I don’t see it much at all anymore. We really don’t need any SB Nation sites going at each other.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Oct 25, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I hardly see any cross over anymore.
Good riddance.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
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season over
Win next week, finish out 3-5 at best.
Hey Lovie, maybe challenge the obvious play. Terrible team, terrible organization. Still looking for a franchise qb.
by mike b on Oct 24, 2010 3:39 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
hey bro
You ever watch the bears before this year? The bears don’t recover from things like this under Lovie. Find me 3 bears wins after Buffalo that you can believe in. Thanks thug life.
by mike b on Oct 24, 2010 6:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Haha nice use of racism. I like it
both Vikings games, the Lions, the Pack, and the Eagles. Bank on it bruh
13. It's a magic number
dont bother responding
If you’re just going to waste peoples time. Both asinine statements.
by mike b on Oct 24, 2010 7:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Excuse meh.
You asked me a question i answered you.
Don’t ask me questions if you don’t want me to reply. Hahaha
13. It's a magic number
Cutlet needs to get his **** together.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Then he should purchase some
They are nice in situations like this.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Question
Which is more frustrating?
A. Watching Cutler without time to throw
B. Watching Cutler with time to throw
by KyCubsFan on Oct 24, 2010 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Without time.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
In other news, Tom Brady has turned into a total pansy with that haircut.
Anybody notice that he’s getting more effeminate as Gisele gets more masculine? It’s kinda creepy.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
So I was only able to see a few plays...
a good WCG recap would be greatly appreciated. Can someone please explain the DJ Moore INT that was/wasn’t a TD and the Cutler TD/fumble at the goal line? Why didn’t stupid Lovie challenge the call?
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
Moore's 2nd pick
was nullified by a delay of game on WSH.
And Jay tried to sneak on the goal line but was called a fumble not a TD. DIdn’t challenge b/c they had JUST challenged the play before on a Bennent catch everyone thought was a TD but was down at the one.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Did the Bears still have a challenge left?...
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
technically
but you’re looking at a 4 point game late 3Q and going to blow yet another TO on a maybe call?
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I thought it was an easy TD...
from the few replays I saw at the bar for a few seconds. What a suck ass way to lose!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
agreed.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I can count the number of times
I’ve seen a call overturned like that. When did he fumble? Did he still completely have the ball when he crossed the plane? Did the ball actually break the plane?
Taken in a vacuum, sure. But in the game? Hard to say for sure.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I didn't think it was a touchdown.
Of course, unlike the Bears replay decision-makers, I looked at the play.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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See I don't think we can blame Lovie for making the first challenge
because Cutler validated Lovie having to challenge to Bennett play by fumbling the ball on the next play. If Lovvie had more confidence in his offense scoring at the goaline then maybe he doesn’t challenge the Bennett play. So when the Cutler fumble happens, Lovie was hesitant to challenge the 2nd play because he didn’t want to blow all of his challenges and it was close.
Yeah but it worked!
by Dils on Oct 24, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with this completely.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 24, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Another possible factor in the non-challenge
is if the staff in the booth didn’t make a strong and fast recommendation to challenge. We don’t know what (if anything) they told Lovie.
There, I just defended Lovie. A little bit.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
Man, I left at the end of the
first half, had to take my son home…was hopeful when I left….what a result to come back to….
that was frustrating.
could they really not see the replay where cutler scored and it was ruled a fumble, which was shown multiple times on tv before the redskins next snap? dont they hire people simply to decided whether or not it would be a good idea to challenge a play? fire them.
2 plays later, refs made the right call on the delay of game (although a little late), but the bears still got hosed.
they finally started running more shorter routes, but im convinced neither knox or hester have any idea how to run a route of less than 15 yards. aromashodu and bennett need to see the ball more if they continue that trend.
when you force 6 fumbles, please recover more than one of them.
6 turnovers…
OK...
so why the 4 INTs? WRs quitting on routes or not being there or Jay slinging into tight windows or desperation throws with the d-line closing in?
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
Well, it's like this.
Things were going along pretty well there in the garden of Eden. And then Adam and Eve ate apple, and it’s been pretty much downhill ever since.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
First the earth cooled...
and then the dinosaurs came…
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
by LostInSTL on Oct 24, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I definitely picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
Do you like watching wrestling, Billy?
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Oct 24, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Half and half
Jay had some awful passes, but Knox quit on a route and Hester (?) let the CB jump the route and didn’t come back for the ball.
It was a whole day of ugly ugly offense on both sides.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Denver losing 31-0 to the Raiders?
Seriously? Holy shit! And I had to start Orton on my FF team because Manning is in a bye week.,
Ouch.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
I drafted Ortan AND Rivers.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
well that means he'll be slinging it all game.. I have him too but Roddy White has carried my team
by frenchbears113 on Oct 24, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Me too! I have Orton in right now,
I figured one week wouldnt hurt, and hey, he’s been putting up pretty good numbers so far.
OOOPS!
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
I drafted Orton AND Rivers.
traded Orton yesterday – to a guys whose only QB not on a bye this week was Vince Young. Haha.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
Longtime lurker, rare poster
My thoughts:
- I’m tired of Jay’s lazy throws. I’m also tired of our receivers not always fighting for the ball.
- For whatever reason, Forte isn’t playing well enough to start. Chester has earned more touches.
- No complaints about the defense. They tighten up as the game goes along. But Peanut is done, I’m sorry to say.
- I like Lovie as a person and a coach. That being said, I’m ready for the Lovie era to be over.
- I live in Vikings Country. I’m rooting for the Pack tonight.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Oct 24, 2010 4:17 PM CDT reply actions
we're all tired of those throws. I want the Jay that threw with conviction back in Denver
by frenchbears113 on Oct 24, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
he does. when he can set his feet.
what i think you’re asking is not to throw deep when your feet aren’t set.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 25, 2010 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I live in Vikings Country, too.
I’m rooting for whichever defense is playing at the time. Maximum Sacks!! Big Tackles!!
I wouldn’t mind a good game for Longwell, as he’s my fantasy kicker today while Vinatieri is on a bye.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
Agree, go defenses....
a 3-3 tie sounds good….
by David in Maine on Oct 24, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Deanna Favre has released a press statement.
"Those pictures Brett sent to that woman were meant for me… but you know Brett… they were intercepted."
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
by NorthStarr on Oct 24, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
I suspect
that posting that over at DN would get me banned. lol.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
you're probably right...
do it anyway…lol
by David in Maine on Oct 24, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Brett did nothing wrong
And his tears cure cancer, AIDS, dropsy and West Nile Virus. Just ask the Norsemen.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Oct 24, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't he invent the wheel, as well? :D
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
Post it.
We’ve seen it before. Favre can be a d-bag? Since when?!?!
by Jepp The Viking on Oct 24, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
So what about the O-line?...
how did they play all game?
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
they just lay there and took it.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
Looked OK after a rocky start
Cutler had quite a bit of time from the 2nd Quarter onward.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
but was that really an O line improvement
or more because they started running and throwing short passes?
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
Could be both
Although I really doubt they improved that much, I just meant they looked OK, not great, but workable.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
They actually tightened up a bit in the 2nd half
But for the most part, it wasn’t much of an improvement.
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
by GriggsBriggs on Oct 24, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
When the line got better
Knox got stupid.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 25, 2010 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Well If the packers win, they are tied with us record wise
So I’m rooting for the purple people eaters. I just wish the bears would have taken care of business so that I would have been able to root for a natural catastophe in the Vikings pack game.
48 minutes of intensity
by dsenchi on Oct 24, 2010 4:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I just want to say
I hate myself for not starting Lee Evans today. 3 TDs on 6 receptions?! What the crap!
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
In terms of quality, much of the league is a giant dumpster fire.
There a few truly good teams out there. I’m watching one, the Patriots, right now.
I don’t think the Lions are out of it. Not by a longshot.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Oct 24, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Holey Breesus...
the Browns beat the Saints in NO. Cutler were’n’t the only one to throw 4 INTs at home today.
I gotta watch that one later on in rewind.
FOr now, I think a nap is in order so I can be ready for tonight’s matchup.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
The Skins won because..
Why the skins won? they won because they did what the Bears should have done on offseason: get rid of the coaching staff, call Shanahan and reinforce the offensive line.
by Claudio Oliveira on Oct 24, 2010 4:58 PM CDT reply actions
Hey
Not here to spread salt in wounds or anything, its just not my way. I want to talk about C. Taylor and his impact on your offense. I watched the game today and was sadly reminded how good CT can be in crucial spots and how much my Vikes miss him. What are your guys’ thoughts about him? Should he play more? Dare I say start?
by Jepp The Viking on Oct 24, 2010 5:01 PM CDT reply actions
yeah, you can say that
The topic comes up on and off around here.
There’s a high number of people who certainly want to see him on 3rd down situations.
There’s a lower (but still significant) number who think he should have more touches than Forte.
I’m not sure yet; since we seem to be “experimenting” this season anyway, sure, let’s see him used in some starter running roles and see how it shakes out.
Personally, I think his presence has helped Forte step his own game up a few notches, so I appreciate CT’s contributions either way.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
Chester Taylor is good,
both of our running backs need more touches. Personally I would like to see their touches to be about even. If both got 10-12 a game I think they would both be pretty good and the team would be better off for it.
Delay of Game penalty needs to change
they let the play happen, it should be able to be declined…and definitely a loss of down on the goal line, minimum
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 24, 2010 5:03 PM CDT reply actions
Eh
It was called to the rule of the law, much like Megatron’s no catch in week 1 (which I agree was also correctly called.) I think it just sucks because it took away what would have been a game clinching pick-6 for da bears. It’s kind of an unintentional dick move by the refs.
by Jepp The Viking on Oct 24, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
it happened several times against GB
they delayed of game on the goaline, and kept giving rodgers 1st and goal, so it’s not just this game
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 24, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure it was called to teh letter of the law,
I am all for that. I am saying the law should be changed.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
I think
If the refs don’t call the play dead at the moment the time clock hits 0, then they should allow play. It’s their mistake, if they missed it then let the play ride as it was obviously pretty damn close (within tenths of seconds) anyways.
by Jepp The Viking on Oct 24, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I can go for that. Note to Goodell for future rules revisions!
Or do we have to wait til it directly affects Tom Brady before we make a change?
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
by juperee on Oct 24, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Probably the latter
Rec’d!
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
by GriggsBriggs on Oct 24, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree.
It’s like that law that says a criminal can’t profit financially from his crime (like selling memoirs from prison, etc). As someone put it earlier, a team shouldnt be allowed to profit from their own penalty by having a play negated.
Either they should give the opponent the chance to decline, or the refs should have no chance to call the delay of game after the play is complete. Like how a coach can’t challenge after the next play has started. You snooze, you lose.
"He was the only man I ever saw who ran his own interference." ~Steve Owen, about Bronko Nagurski
it should be like offsides
or the opposite of it. it’s a free-play for the D if the refs didn’t bother to blow the whistle. if something great happens for the D, they can decline it and the play stands
they'd never do that
a qb might get tackled, which would be bad.
plus, it makes sense. and since they can’t figure out how to split a BILLION dollars without taking lessons from the NHL.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I liked the offense in the 3rd Qtr
It seemed as if the Bears where going to actually score in the 3rd Qtr; Cutler was getting good protection, the running game was working…All in all the offense was moving the ball, but when it comes to scoring, the execution is terrible. That and the turnovers…Bennet’s catch was short of the endzone, but I had this uneasy feeling about the following 1st and goal play. I’m not sure who they were playing (Either Green Bay, Seattle, or Carolina), but the very next play after the challenge of an almost TD catch, they fumbled the ball and it happened in the preseason on a 1st & Goal.
Cutler is not showing to be a clutch QB yet.
Carolina
Collins threw an INT. Last year in the Atlanta game, we also had a 1st and goal and effed it up with a fumble or something.
Punters around the league should start pinning us at THEIR own 1-yard line.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
by iowaBear on Oct 24, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
this is very depressing.
Just when you think the problems are solved on this team, more problems rear their ugly little heads. this team lacks the ability to play a complete game on both sides of the ball. AND THE COACHING STAFF, WHAT THE FUCK! When Lovie doesn’t throw challenge flags is when he should and vice versa.
I swear, this team makes me want to relive my teenage days by doing illegal things with exotic plants.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 24, 2010 5:49 PM CDT reply actions
doing illegal things with exotic plants.
Took me a moment to realise what you actually meant by this. I briefly wondered just how exotic your behaviour could get with plants, and whether or not I wanted to find out…
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
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We need these last two games big time
We are at home against two teams which were good, but The Bears are a good team as well and when your at home you need to win these type of games.
2 or 1 more win would help give the bears some breathing room from minnesota and Green Bay.
3-0
1-3 since
I still believe this team can do some things, The o line came around, Martz did well, Cutler did well at times at others he did not.
Bear Down
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
I disagree with comments about Lovie
not throwing the challenge flag on the Cutler play because he threw one the play before. If the guys upstairs say it is a TD, then you need to challenge. That is a play worth points. You must challenge if you think it is close. Inexcusable of the coaching staff.
I am also disgusted with Cutler and Martz on the final interception. Why even have Knox run a deep route. You have had the short to intermediate passing game working in the 2nd half, you need to keep that working and play for the tie at home.
I put this on the coaching staff first, Cutler 2nd. But both are in need of a kick in the ass after that game.
I don't have a problem with the deep route
at best, it could have drew a penalty for pass interference. i would’ve liked to see some draws or screen to set up the two minute warning.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 24, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Martz' is proving
to be the same old stubborn person that he was in San Fran and Detroit. I think that he really just can’t not call pass plays, kinda like an addict. After a week in which Lovie comes out and say we need more balance, and Martz says that he should have called more running plays in the Seahawks debacle, what happens?
Martz call 16 running plays, including Cutler’s QB sneak,
10 to Forte for 41 yards = 4.1 yards a carry
3 to Chester Taylor for 20 yards = 6.7 yards a carry
2 to Devin Hester for 5 yards = 2.5 yards a carry
Don’t want to think about the QB sneak yet.
The point is, our running backs were doing a great job. This was a close game, there was no reason to go away from the run, and every reason to stay with it. If the Bears had stuck with the run until the Redskins had to bring eight in the box to stop it, he could have started calling his pass plays or god forbid he use some play action.
In the 2nd half of the game the O-line actually started to come together a little bit. They might have built up a little confidence had they won this game. That was ridiculous play calling.
I am ok with the offensive game plan today
Our guys failed to execute, Cutler is hearing footsteps on every play and is making bad decisions because of it. Our 2nd tier wideouts arent helping either. These kids just dont have the experience to run this complex offense. So basically we took who was a 1st tier QB and paired him with a 2nd rate wide out crew, a 3rd rate group of tight ends, and a 4th rate O line and we are all wondering why the execution isnt there, its obvious to me. Its time to simplify this offense so these morons can figure out were they are supposed to be. Martz isnt to blame, its the lousy offensive personnel plain and simple.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 24, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm okay with the late 2nd quarter
first half of 3rd Q offense.
I just don’t understand why it takes so long to GET into that gear and why it doesn’t wanna stay in that gear. 40 passes and 13 runs in a 3 point game when quick passing/runs were working is obnoxious. But no longer suprising.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I'm right
with you this time. Martz has to take what they are giving us and stick with what is working.
Letter writing campaign.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 25, 2010 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I think
we’re almost saying the same thing in terms of dumbing it down. While I agree that in some instances, especially the o-line, there is a lack of talent. It is still on Martz to dumb it down, as the play caller he needs to recognize what is working and go with it. That’s his job.
Establishing a run game is not an outrageous idea. Especially in Chicago, outdoor northern stadium, the run game is going to be important getting into November through January if we make it that long. If opposing teams respect our run game, the passing game will get that much easier. Plus our O-line should gel a little faster in the run game.
You speak of TE’s, I ask, why is Dez Clark not dressing for games? That is on Martz. We have four TE’s on this team, we only ever seem to get Olsen or Shamoomaleuna in the game, that’s not exactly working for us.
Sorry if this comes off as pissy, I’m still a little upset about this game. We had the talent to win this, but the Bears got brain punched today then shot themselves in the proverbial foot.
I was upset
That taylor did not get anymore rushing attempts
He broke off back to back 10 yard runs and didnt see the ball again we need to utilize this weapon
Obviously martz read my fanpost about getting the ball to olsen, but must have ignored the part about the jump ball in the red zone.
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 24, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely agree,
Chester Taylor looks good when he gets the ball. Can’t understand why he isn’t getting it more. Though I don’t really understand why Forte isn’t getting it more either.
Personally I would like to see Taylor and Forte split the carries about evenly. I like Taylor better running the ball between the tackles, though Forte’s re-found speed is impressive, especially when we get him the ball in space. He doesn’t break tackles as easily as Taylor but he sure takes off on those screen passes.
Comedy of Errors
Not sure if anyone else noticed this, but NFL.com got creative with the highlight link for our game relative to all the others. The highlight link for every other completed game on the scoreboard says ‘Visiting team vs. Home team highlights". For the Redskins-Bears game it says “Comedy of Errors.” Can’t say I disagree.
On a positive note, I can think of a lot worse performances to suffer through than what we did today (see Raiders domination of Broncos).
yeah Denver let em put 59 points up on them
that’s like getting mauled to death by a snapping turtle.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 24, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
FABULOUS METAPHOR
I’m for turning that one green.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Oct 24, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah a lot of fanbases have
a lot to be pissed about tonight. How you think those Saints fans feel after what they saw? Just a shame we gave away a game today. Literally.
Yeah but it worked!
I like to see the chiefs and raiders at the top of the ACF west. And I like even more to see the Bears at the top of the NFC north. I hope the Viqueens to win the game tonight..
by Claudio Oliveira on Oct 24, 2010 7:05 PM CDT reply actions
So the next weeks will blow
bears have a bye and i live in DC, i am dreading work/ class this week
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
i just hope to get migthy drunk for halloween
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 24, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank god I didn't go the game today
I thought the Oline improved in the second half but Jay was awful. Just poor decisions I think caused by thinking he has to force good things to happen. Our wr coach should be fired tomorrow, these guys just do not know the nuances of playing the position. Hester still has not learned to come back to the ball. How hard is that to comprehend?? Between him and Knox their IQ couldn’t crack 39..
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
Martz's offenses always turn the ball over
at an alarming rate. They always get their QB killed. He’s had different players and position coaches over the years. The one thing that stayed the same was Martz. Are all of his QBs “interception machines”? Do they all “hold onto the ball too long”? I never liked Martz. I gave him a chance because the Bears hired him, but I never liked him. Don’t get me wrong, he’s great if he has one of the 5 best offensive lines in the NFL (which the Bears don’t have). If you need that to be successful you are not a “great offensive mind” no matter how many people say you are. Jay hasn’t shown his the accuracy we normally see from him his last couple of games. He’s still shell-shocked. To make matters worse, nobody on the offense is on the same page. Somebody needs to tell the coaches that training camp is over. Bottom line: Jay will never reach his potential unless he goes to another team or until Martz and Angelo are gone. Period. End of discussion. He was headed in the right direction in Denver until Pat Bowlen inexplicably and foolishly soured on Mike Shanahan.
by Dick Butka on Oct 24, 2010 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Nicely put
This is merely us reaping what we sowed for a half-assed O.C. search in the offseason that left us with our only option – one that has proven to lead to QB sacks/hits, unbalanced pass/rush ratio, turnovers, and a high scoring… wait, where the hell’s the last one!
If its free, take two.
Too soon.
You’re expecting miracles overnight. They don’t happen, not with a new OC, not with the talent on the o-line.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 25, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd
Great way of putting it. I don’t know if I’m just being stubborn or stupid or what, but I can’t give up on Jay Cutler. I can’t do it. Maybe it’s because I have his jersey, maybe it’s because I will never forget how absolutely ecstatic I was when I found out about the trade. But I believe he has potential and I believe that the Bears are eff-ing it up.
I hated the Martz hire at first, warmed up a bit, but now I’m over it. We definitely need to get rid of Martz, definitely need to get rid of Angelo. Lovie should probably go but if we could somehow get rid of the first 2 I could stick it out with Lovie one last time.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Oct 25, 2010 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh yeah and you do point out very well
I do seem to remember a lot of “He holds the ball too long” when talking about Martz QBs after Warner. Those guys were all also turnover prone. Jay has been getting screwed by his coaches and systems I think. He is a gunslinger, he’ll throw lots of picks, I’m OK with that but he needs to be put in a better position to succeed.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Oct 25, 2010 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I know what Lovie Dobbie's gonna say...
“Well we’ve still got a winning record. Always look at the bright side of life.”
Don't grumble...
Give a whistle.
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Is my mind a'goin on me or am I watchin you jibber jabber like some sorta jibberty box. Jibber Jabber on! Jibber Jabber on! -- Early Cuyler
WOW
after fumbling the ball, throwing 4 picks, he then says if we were playing them tomorrow he would go right back at hall??? Hummmm Does he knows its bad when your throwing to the wrong team? I agree you have to let it go after an interception but perhaps it should set in just a little bit lol. Our offensive line did look better in the second half, but Jay is unsettled and gun shy right now. He has to plant his feet, he’s constantly throwing off his back foot. Maybe if our line can start keeping off the turf he can get enough confidence to set his feet before releasing. The deep route Hall was way ahead of Johny that ball should have never been thrown. We at least showed up today for this game. The Seattle game was horiffic!
Plenty of Blame to Go Around
But a lot of it has to go to the coaches. Still an unbalanced attacked, bad challenges (again) and the Bears just got outcoached.
Some of it was on Cutler. Some of it on the receivers. A lot of it on the coaches.
The line, briefly, in the 2nd half looked like it was coming together. Maybe they can build on that (Or just completely destroy it).
This team is nowhere near perfect, or even good. Hester looked bad at WR today. Jay looked bad at QB, Knox looked bad. Just an awful, awful game.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Oct 25, 2010 12:25 AM CDT reply actions
Like windycitygridiron.com
Yeah i agree losing 3 of 4 pretty much sums it up. Or as Lovie would say we’re still 4 – 3 football team, we just turned the ball over a few too many times today. I’m not a big Lovie fan or Jerry Angelo fan either lol.
Missing the playoffs in 2010
would be in the long-term best interests of the Bears franchise. Angelo has been there for almost a decade and I have no reason to expect him to all of a sudden figure out how to build a football team. A playoff appearance would mean he’s not going anywhere for a long time.
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