Jay Cutler Approval Rating: Round Three
by Dane Noble on Oct 27, 2010 3:00 PM CDT
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There must be a mistake.
I don’t see a “Approve so long as Ditka returns and puts his foot up Martz’s keister” option.
I approve.
Of said image of ditka kicking keister.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 27, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Todd Collins has no approval rating.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 27, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it will be Zero.
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 27, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't Todd get a vote?
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 27, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Todd is a smart guy
he’ll disapprove of himself
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 27, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
-100000?
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
tisk tisk...
this is how the hate starts.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 27, 2010 3:40 PM CDT reply actions
Not hate
But I was getting tired of Cutler getting a free pass last season as everyone wanted to blame anything but Jay for some of his bad decisions. This season I think maybe we’ve swung back the other direction and are going after Jay more than we should be going after Mike Martz hanging Jay out to dry.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
He hung them out to dry last March/April.
Martz is doing his best job pointing this out to the fans.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
He should be pointing it out to Ted Phillips.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 27, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Who should then have to point it out to Virginia McCaskey
Who could point it out to Roger Godell who then solve the entire problem by declaring the Bears the Super Bowl Champions as it should be. DITKA, DENT & SWEETNESS!!!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
What bad decisions?
I thought the O-line and WRs were all to blame.
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
Hate? Because he's not playing at a high level and is regressing to last season form?
I’m upset, but I’m not going to go burn down his house.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Everyone has screwed up some.
Cutler, Martz, Lovie, even the D. However, 4-3 isn’t bad and there’s no NFC team looking like a dominant force right now.
This may be true, 4-3 isn't bad.
However, our team plays like they would be challenged by the 49ers.
Even the Willowbrook Warriors would offer them a test, the way they have been playing.
If you don't ask, you don't get. So get on with it already.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 27, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Where does the next win come from?
Buffalo? Ryan Fitzpatrick is the biggest FF stud based on the alst four weeks with two of the hottest WRs. They can stop the run, they can score points, their safeties will pick Cutler to death. How do we beat them? How will we beat even the Lions in their house? They have an o-line, we don’t. They can score points, we can’t. Our schedule gets harder not easier.
But 4-3 is the Bears, not Cutler
Cutler isn’t playing well, he’s actually getting worse. I say stick with the dude, he’s proven he can play well, but at this time, I am not happy with how he’s playing.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Say the same thing about Drew Brees right now...
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 27, 2010 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
After Brees game on Sunday, oh it was bad
The Saints are struggling this season, more then most thought they would, and Brees is as well. He’s a great player, so is Cutler, but that doesn’t excuse them from being accountable for their mistakes.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
The wierd thing with Brees is
He had better coaching and better and more weapons. O dont think he will do that again
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
Neither do I
It should also be noted that Brees is shorter, not as strong armed, and isn’t quick with his feet, all things Cutler has. The difference isn’t just talent around them, Brees almost never makes mistakes, even without talent around him, he isn’t as successful, but he plays smart. Cutler is a very talented and is skilled, but at this point Cutler isn’t a smart player. He has a mindset that he can do anything, and will do what it takes to make the pass and win the game. This is a good thing at times, we’ve seen it before in Brett Favre, he’s got a ring, but he’s cost his team many games, especially when he has no talent. When Cutler doesn’t have talent, or thinks he doesn’t, he takes tries and to win the game alone, and he can’t do that. That fire means he’ll force throws, and that will lead to big TD’s and it will lead to a lot of turnovers. Cutler said it himself, when he was speaking about Hall, he doesn’t fear any CB, and he’s not afraid to go to that CB again and again. This leads to a lot of mistakes when you don’t respect other talented player.
Cutler is very talented, but his pride will stop him from being a good team player, he needs to learn to make smart decisions and rely on his team, even if there isn’t much talent around him. Look at what the greats like Manning and Brady do, they make their average players improve, they help younger players grow, and makes the most of what they have. Now Cutler isn’t Manning and Brady, and there is some blame on the Bears coaching staff, but Cutler is proud and isn’t playing smart football. Now I don’t want to replace Cutler, I think he’s doing decently with what he’s been given, but once Cutler has more talent around him, the big question will be does he change when he has talented teammates, because if he doesn’t change, things aren’t going to improve much.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Thanks for the awesome response
I just pray he gets help soon. If he sucks with help then we can throw him out. I just like to see a much better supporting cast before we give final judgement. But for now he has to do better than the last game.
That said I want Angelo gone he screwed the offense for years even before Cutler got here.
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
I do think Angelo is the largest problem in the organization
More then Lovie or any player. We haven’t been patient with player development and haven’t tried to fix real problems, instead we upgrade solid areas and ignore weaknesses. I am happy we have Cutler, but I am hoping he humbles himself a bit, plays smarter, and I hope we can get an offensive line as well.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Oct 28, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He must step up.
At the end of the 2007 season the Ravens finished 5-11.
Trading down to No18 they started Joe Flacco as a rookie all year with the aging Willie Anderson at RT and the very saw 5th round supplemental pick Jared Gaither who had only started 2 games at LT previously. A good yet injury prone TE, Todd Heap along with aging Derrick Mason and 1st round bust Mark Clayton were the targets. They also had a rookie RB in Ray Rice.
With a new Head Coach, John Harbaugh, they finished 11-5.
We have a talented defense, so if a new Head Coach does come in, he must have seen evidence of Cutler stepping up, learn from his mistakes and assume his leadership role. He has a poor OL and mediocre receivers but a rookie QB in Flacco didn’t have much better to work with. A great QB can overcome these short comings and carry a team further than the sum of its parts.
If we finished 4-12, but Cutler stepped up and showed he was potentially on his way to becoming a great QB, I would want him to stay, but if he doesn’t then a new Head Coach and GM could show him the door. As of today he is 11 out of 23 games won, and has throw 33 Interceptions to 34 Touchdowns.
Even when playing poorly, young QBs will the physical attributes will always find someone prepared to pay a lot for them.
Your comparison is dubious at best...
It’s not as simple as get a new coach and draft a QB and you’ll go to the playoffs. The Detroit Lions did it and look where they got to last year. The Bears have simply drafted so badly in the last 5+ years, they lack in talent at a variety of positions. Cutler has played better than ANY Bears QB since McMahon. He has not had the success you may want, but at his position on the offense, he is a strength. Get a real starting WR, a TE that can block, a short yardage back and a new offensive line. Then if he sucks ass, send him packing. Look at the Cowboys this season. They have talent at all the skill positions on offense; so much so that they were picked as legitimate SB contenders. However, the O-line is horrible and they cannot move the football or score points.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
by LostInSTL on Oct 27, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was NOT a comparison
It is just an example the drafting a rookie QB and starting him from day 1 during a regime change does not automatically mean basement dwelling hell for the next 5 years.
In 2006, Grossman threw 262 passes for 3,193 yds, 23Tds and 20Ints at a 73.9 rating and a 13-3 record with a SuperBowl appearance
In 2008, Orton threw 272 passes for 2,972 yds, 18Tds and 12Ints for a 79.6 rating and a 9-7 record
Cutler through last year 336 passes for 3,666yds, 27Tds and 26Tds for a 76.8 ratting and a 7-9 record
Since when has playing for a losing record and a lower QB rating beaten a SuperBowl appearance and a superior QB rating to make Cutler our best QB since McMahon?
So the Bears should have kept Grossman?...
all you quote are QB numbers. That’s stats in a vacuum for fantasy football entertainment purposes only. Do you believe the defense had anything to do with the Bears record in 2006 or 2008 for that matter?
Phillip Rivers is running the statistically best offense in the NFL, but they are 2-4.
Orton is performing well in Denver, but it’s not doing them any good either.
You say:
It is just an example the drafting a rookie QB and starting him from day 1 during a regime change does not automatically mean basement dwelling hell for the next 5 years.
It also doesn’t mean they are instant playoff contenders either.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
No, they shouldn't have ever made the Cutler for Orton deal.
the Bears would be a better team with Martz and Orton, as opposed to the current combination. Orton has proven what he can do if you actually let him throw the ball, and is better at the mental aspect of the game, not to mention a proven leader and a guy with a lot of respect in the locker room. Its kind of like at christmas, when there is this hyped up toy that is supposedly going to be sold out everywhere. when low and behold one turns up somewhere, but the folks there want an arm and a leg, but you just have to have it so you pay some ridiculous price for it. Then that same toy turns out to be not that great, and you say to yourself, " You know, I probably shouldn’t have done that". Thats how I feel. Just sayin’
No man no
With this O-line Orton would be out sooner than Cutler might be this year. He would be DEAD behind this line. Any QB without mobilty like Orton or Peyton or anyone else with this line would either look bad or die. I’m not excusing Cutler’s bad play. But Orton with Martz??? What are you smoking?
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
Leadership
quit this excuse about a rubbish OL and WR
When Manning drove the Colts to the SuperBowl last year, he had TWO rookie WR in Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon
His line considered of one Pro Bowl Center, a UDFA at Left Tackle in his first year of starting and 3 journeyman
You didn’t hear hm whining about his supporting cast – you saw behaving like a franchise QB displaying leadership.
You are right...
Cutler is not Payton Manning. In fact, it can be argued that Manning is the best QB to ever play the game. That makes him better than almost EVERY QB. You cannot believe for a second that the Bears can trade away Cutler for a 1st round pick and get the next Payton Manning. That is insane. Further, you cannot also believe for a second that the Bears O-line or WRs are remotely close to the talent level on the 2009 Colts. That’s not even laughable, that’s insane. I do think Cutler is a poor leader to date. John Kitna is a better leader than Tony Romo. Does Kitna start ahead of Romo, of course not. Kerry Collins is a far superior leader to Vince Young, but he also doesn’t start. I’d love to hear what specific “leading” that Cutler can do to improve his O-line play or make the WRs run better routes.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
In Denver
Even we Cutler had a far superior OL with Pro Bowl tackles in Clady and Lepsis, elite receiver in Brandon Marshall, top tight ends, he still failed to once have a winning season.
What makes you think that even if we provide these he will enjoy a season better than his previous best of 8-8?
Cutler has all the skills necessary to be...
an elite QB in the NFL. You are trying to say Cutler is a bad QB. That is simply not true. Perhaps the Broncos being in the bottom third in defense during his tenure had something to do with the Broncos record. You do realize the Broncos were the #2 offense in 2008, right? Cutler passed for over 4,500 yards, was sacked 12 times and intercepted 18 with 25TDs. If the Bears were anything close to those numbers, might they be a better football team. The Bears O-line isn’t just bad, it’s abysmal. They have allowed 31 sacks in 7 games. That’s almost triple what Cutler’s line gave up in a season in 2008! That’s not a slight discrepancy, that’s and epic chasm of difference. I think we all agree that Cutler needs to play better, but do you seriously believe Grossman or Orton would be performing better on this offense. And if you say yes, I can thank all my lucky stars that you are not the Bears GM!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
Draft picks given up
Cutler clearly knew the situation he was entering.
He knew draft picks had been traded to get him.
Yet his post match claims of having no problems going after Hall and Hall again shows TOTAL ARROGANCE, and a complete unwillingness to learn.
At what point when you’ve stuck your hand in a fire and got burnt, do you stop and think to yourself “maybe that’s not a good idea”?
Whether you like his attitude or not...
has no bearing on his abilities to play QB in the NFL. You do realize that QBs often throw many times in the direction of the other team’s best CBs. Those are called passing plays! EVERY QB does it.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
Confident QB
I want a confident cocky QB. I do not want a timid game manager that is afraid to go after the opposing defense. If Jay had a big go to WR that would go after the ball, he would have had only one INT against the Skins. If had a O-Line that could block for him and the RB we would be no worse than 5-2. I’m not giving him a pass but, Martz is a very smart OC. He has made in game adjustments. He just needs to reeled in sometime with the pass. However, if he had a line that could block, he probably would run it more. SF and DET had terrible O-Lines and were in a rebuilding stage when he was there. Jay and the offense need continuity. Give Jay a decent O-Line and a big WR with talent and he will put up huge numbers. We need to stop bashing the most physically gifted QB that the we have ever had before we lose him to another team and becomes like many other players that have left us. The problem starts at Angelo and up.
Winning Seasons also come down to defenses
And he had absolutely pisspoor ones in Denver.
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pisspoor!
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 28, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
pisspoor?
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
It’s just a great adjective
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 29, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Best QB ever?
How old are you? Did you ever see Joe Montana? Dude, he’s got four rings and three SB MVP awards !!! Peyton Manning is the biggest choker in NFL history. How many times has he been to the playoffs? How many rings? Go figure. He is also without question the most undeserving wiinner of a SB MVP award there has ever been. Somebody explain to me why Peyton Manning got that MVP award other than that his name is Peyton Manning.
Manning is the biggest choker in NFL history?
Have you seen any NFL history? That’s like saying Marino and Moon were chokers, or that Kelly was a choker. Those guys are in the Hall of Fame, Manning is going there as well. Now best ever, probably not, but he’s in my top 5 for sure.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Very true
Cutler has very little support offensively – obviously with the entire offensive line (with the possible exception of Omiyale) not really being capable of starting on most other NFL teams. We’ve got a group of NFL backups and practice squad guys starting on our line.
Our WRs are okay, but our blocking and our running game really suck badly. It makes us one dimensional on offense, because teams know we’re going to pass. They can load up against the pass because they have no respect for our running game.
Martz
I think we pass because of Martz’s offensive strategy not because we can’t run
Chester Taylor had two runs for 24 yds against the Redskins and then was ignored.
Fair Enough
But overall, our running game has sucked this year. That’s another reason why we’ve been such a one-dimensional team, offensively.
Cutler is not the best since McMahon ...
He’s thrown almost as many interceptions as TDs. He’s under a 50% winning percentage. Jim Miller got us to the playoffs. Kyle Orton’s Bears won 21 games and lost 12. In no category is Cutler a leader apart from velocity of said interceptions.
Brian Urlacher's Bears
won a lot of those games.
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Jim Miller didnt do much
It was Brian’s Awesomeness back then that won some of thos games
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
dude willu stop with the "get rid of cutler and draft a qb"
no new coach in their right mind would do that. That being said McNugget in Denver was out of his mind by pissing Cutler off.
Like i have said on your posts before.
When you have FRANCHISE players you do NOT trade them for unproven “talent”
13. It's a magic number
Rex Ryan and John Harbaugh did
Ryan dumped Chad Pennington
He moved up in the draft to select unproven Mark Sanchez. The Jets got to the Championship game
The year before John Harbaugh dumped Steve McNair and drafted unproven John Flacco. They made the playoffs
For every McDaniels, you can find a coach who has dumped an experienced QB for a rookie and won.
It is typical of the Bears to dump a QB who enjoyed a winning season and goes on to have a career year for a ‘franchise’ QB who delivers a losing season. And it is Angelo who announced Cutler was a franchise QB for the Bears.
Steve McNair...
was a few years past franchise QB and Pennington had many years of trying to be one and failing. How did Alex Smith work out for the 49ers? Better yet, what about Matthew Stafford? He’s a good QB, but his team is awful, so his record sucks too.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
Pennington is the Doug Flutie of the past decade.
Except one is a noodle arm, and the other could throw it 60 yards into a headwind.
Both were underrated, trashed, and if anything fantastically average their entire NFL careers.
Also: Rex Ryan didn’t dump Pennington. Mangini did when they acquired Favre.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 27, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
If only the Bears...
could have drafted a guy like Flutie, they could have traded McMahon for a 1st round draft pick and hired Jim Harbaugh to be their head QB. ;>P
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
NO
because Harbaugh was actually doing a good job
Are we saying that a losing record as a QB but a barely positive TD v Int record what we expect?
What I am saying is
If Cutler improves I want him to stay, but on his current performances, any new GM and Head Coach will ask themselves if they really need to think of going in a different direction, especially as they will have a little bit of latitude as a new team shaking things up to take things forward.
If we did decide to replace Cutler, and probably through the draft, you don’t do this in a year with few prospects. You do in a year where there are a load of prospects with a 1st round grade.
What happens if we decide to stick with Cutler in 2011, only to find the prospects in 2012 extremely poor?
The Bills decided that based on a couple of good performances to stick with Losman in both 2006 and 2007 and passed on Leinart, CUTLER, and Brady Quinn. While Cutler has had only a marginal record and the other two flopped, either could have succeeded at Ralph Wilson and been seen as the new regimes man – instead when the Bills did decide to let Losman go, there were very few prospects in the draft, so they then had to stick with Edwards. In retrospect, they should have jumped at Leinart or Cutler in 2006.
And this is the question facing a new regime – stick with Cutler, on try to get your OWN guy in, during a deep class of QBs?
Since Cutler started in 2006 having been draft No11 this is his W-L record despite having a decent ground game, despite have WRs of the calibre of Brandon Marshall, despite having Pro Bowl LTs like Ryan Clady and Matt Lepsis, and TEs like Graham and Sheffler
2006 W 2-3 L
2007 W 8-8 L
2008 W 7-9 L
2009 W 7-9 L
2010 W 3-3 L to date
As a franchise QB, Cutler in basically four seasons play has yet to have a season leading his team better than .500
His record is W 27 – 32 L
How long to we continue to call him a franchise QB?
Talent!!
Give the man some talent around him and he will win. Big athletic WR and an O-Line, we have everything else on offense.
Defense and zero running game!
You cannot win if your defense does not somewhat stop the opposition from scoring. In addition, he had a good offensive line and they still could not run due to the RB.
That Denver team the year before Cutler was drafted was 13-3 and in the AFC Championship game
The Bears before he came here were 9-7 and missed the playoffs because they lost to Houston the last game of the season. He didn’t go to teams that were terrible in either case. A real “franchise” QB should have been good enough for just one more win but his teams actually went backwards. Not all his fault, obviously, but you can’t say the only reason he hasn’t had a winning record was the talent around him because those teams were talented enough right before he got there to have winning records.
To quote a Phil...
“How’d that work out for him?”
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
Pretty well, got the playoffs a couple times
Playing on a bad team in NY and the injury bug killed his career.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Oct 28, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Chad Pennington and Stever McNair were NOT Franchise players bro
plus Pennington was in Miami before Rexy got to New Jersey
I never said don’t get rid of your old and washed up player. By all means do that.
but
You do not dump a 27 year old pro bowl QB for a 21 year old unproven “talent”
13. It's a magic number
but to be fair aren't all 1st round qb's...
‘franchise’?
it’s a terrible phrase that should be retired. both mcnair and pennington were average to above average servicable qb’s in their prime were around the same category as those like eli manning, donovan mcnabb, and kerry collins… ‘franchise’ means elite to most people, but most of the time… the difference between a servicable qb and an elite qb won’t truly make or break a team in their quest for an SB… as been proven by the sheer amount of above average, but never elite qb’s who’ve won the super bowl…
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 28, 2010 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I was going to say that too.
Mangini was still the coach in NY when Pennington left.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
But neither is Cutler
Being a high draft pick doesn’t make you a franchise pick
Neither does being a a guy a foolish GM paid maybe too much for.
Neither is a record of 11-12 and a personal record of 34 TDs v 33 Ints make you a franchise QB
Too soon.
See T-Train’s example of Dan Fouts.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 28, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Work ethic
Does Jay have what it takes to succeed like Fouts? According to Jeff Dickerson, Jay doesn’t do any extra work with his receivers.
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
But does extra work equate to better results?
Not always. I think, again, that’s an ‘angle’ statement.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 28, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
So, what you're saying is extra work doesn't have much of a chance to work?
With more repetition comes more familiarity, and can help players find unit chemistry. Otherwise, there’s really no way for them to take the next step. JD was stating that P. Manning does this all the time, and wondered why Jay doesn’t.
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
Reasons that you, I, and even JD probably don't know.
You have to remember, the bears are the one of the most media unfriendly organization in the history of the world.
I don’t think even reporters are privy to the practice times, schedules, and how many reps Cutler gets with his receivers… Peyton may be scheduled for 35 in a given day… and do an extra 25 with the receivers on the side. Cutler may do 60 on a given day, and not do any extra.
These are things you can’t confirm or deny, and neither can JD. ‘Extra effort’ isn’t quantitative, nor is it really useful in determining the effort put in.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 28, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
That makes sense
I still can’t compare his intangibles with what the great QBs had/have. Combine this and the fact that his results have been less than stellar, lead me to believe he’s got a very tough road to stardome.
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
I don't think
you understand.
I’m not saying draft position impacts franchise status.
It’s all about the players value and their skill.
Ask any GM in the NFL and they will tell you Jay Cutler is a franchise player. Period.
13. It's a magic number
Mark Sanchez
was not the reason the Jets got to the Championship Game
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Pennington led a 1-15 team
the year before to 11-5, one of the most memorable turn arounds in NFL history while the Jets stumbled and failed to make it to the playoffs in Mangini’s final year. Mcnair was nearing the end cause of his chest injuries which were a loooooot and his concussions.Besides Farve he was the toughest QB to play beacuse of his knack for running and grind out yardage even after being hit, That’s why everyone loved playing with him cause he would leave everything on that field. His sternum was so badly damaged that he had to play with bigger pads than average and which quaterback had won anything solely on O in Bal before Harbaugh and still Flacco has a hard time.
Pof, Pof, Pasa! Watch out for the monsters!
Black-sheep, a new QB wouldn't change a thing if you don't add talent on the offensive side...
of the ball. A rookie QB will struggle immensely under these conditions because he wouldn’t have enough experience to know how to overcome it.
by Dominique Blanton on Oct 27, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Interceptions
He might stop coughing up the ball. So far Cutler has thrown 33 Interceptions. He has shown no leadership. It’s just like having a rookie – except this one can’t seem to learn
And what usually happens is the Head Coach and Offensive Co-ordinator create a game plan that shelters a rookie. For example, Martz (if in place) would definitely use the run and the TE more.
Because we have a so-called experienced franchise QB, the coaches can’t be that conservative, but sooner or later people might start realising he doesn’t deserve the title franchise
No.
A rookie is more prone to “cough up the ball”
Get real son.
Your posts make no sense, are back with pure emotion, and have no statistical background whatsoever.
13. It's a magic number
Lots and lots of this ^^^^^^
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 28, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Is this the I love Jay Fansite?
Which is I may sound a little frustrated.
Exactly at what point will the Jay Homers admit he may not be as good as we are being told?
He basically averages an interception for every game has ever started irrespective of the quality of his OL or WR or even other set of excuses.
As a starter he has a .500 record but of course he’s been responsible for this
There are statistics and statistics and damn lies. Anyone can twist statistics to suit their argument, but the record is, he has thrown 70 interceptions in 59 starts, and even when he had Pro Bowl receivers in Denver and Pro Bowl LTs, he still had 37 interceptions in 37 games.
When does he stop being given a free pass and as a leader actually be held accountable? Even in his press conferences it’s everybodys fault but his. If he is in this sort of deluded self-denial he will never improve.
At least a rookie might be prepared to learn not make comments that he would still target the guy he just coughed up four interceptions too
When does that level of stupidity become clear to him?
Stop Posting!
Look at Brees’s and Peyton’s Stats their first 5 years in the league. They were worse than Jay. The had the same OC or offense system their first five years. Drew did not really become good until he went to the Saints. Peyton started doing great things in year six. I remember Peyton being called a choke artist in big games.
I disagree.
Please keep posting. I enjoy contrarian opinions from posters…
But please, not as an admin, or anyone in power, please quit bringing down your fan posts. It’s rather annoying.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 28, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I understand where you're coming from
It’s like talking to a wall. Denial is a difficult thing to overcome, and Jay sure seems too content at where he’s at in his career right now. Here’s a Q/A with Jeff Dickerson on espnchi where he answers a fan about if Jay likes to put in extra work with his receivers.
joel (chicago)
its a well known fact that peyton manning puts it a large amount of off field work with his WRs to get on the same page and increase their chemistry. Does Cutler do any of that?
Michael (12:18 PM)
Nope.
And this is from an impartial journalist, i.e. non-Bears fan. Here’s another good one…
Chris (Waynetown, Indiana)
Thanks for taking the time to talk “Bears” with us fans. With the reappearance of “Bad Jay” on Sunday a nagging question comes to mind … Have we seen the best Cutler has to offer, or can he really be an elite QB?
Michael (12:14 PM)
No problem, Chris. Love talking to you guys. Sadly, I tend to think fans have pretty much seen the best Cutler has to offer. He’s definitely “elite” in terms of athleticism, and arm strength. But he’s lacking in the intangibles department, which is where a good portion of the best quarterbacks are strongest. Unfortunately, I don’t think you can teach those intangibles. Cutler will develop some of those with maturity, but he’ll have to hone them quite a bit to somehow fall into that elite category. I honestly don’t see it happening.
He’s not alone in his opinion when saying he lacks one of the most important attributes of an elite QB.
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
by propheteer on Oct 28, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But, Dickerson is only one man.
And is not an impartial journalist.
An impartial journalist wouldn’t offer analysis like that without some source either. His opinion is that Jay is lacking in the intangibles department. Where’s corroborating statements from experts? People who actually witness, converse, and talk to the one in question.
His opinion, his storyline, is that Jay isn’t mentally mature enough. Both Maynock and Mort have repeatedly said from 2006 that Jay has ‘intangibles’. Now. I don’t know what ‘intangeblies’ are… and how these three people in question come up with the label ‘you have them’ or ‘you don’t’. especially as journalists, or analysts… ‘leadership’ is a shady characteristic that isn’t viewable from outside of the huddle often.
That said, I really don’t trust anyone, Dickerson or otherwise when they talk about ‘intangibles’.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 28, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
If you're talking about Larry Meyer
Then yes, he’s partial, but I can’t imagine JD being biased towards the Bears. It’s his job to view practices, interview players and coaches, report and offer his opinion on what he compiles. I don’t believe everything every journalist reports, but I do think he speaks his mind with an educated, well-informed opinion. Might as well not read anything at all if that’s what you believe.
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
I just read the i.e. non bears fan
and couldn’t help but think Dickerson is too… a native chicagoan
I think he has a well informed opinion too, but, i’m thinking, like ‘franchise’… ‘intangible’ means many things to many people, without clear definition to what constitutes ‘intangibles’.
if he had them in 06, and doesn’t have them now, how can one lose intangibles? and if you can lose them, can you gain them to a competent level? see, this is the problem with definitions like this. I like JD, but, I do have to question his ability to deduce that from the evidence he gets. I want to question anyones ability who can say ‘this guy has the brains to make it in the NFL’ (assuming that’s what ‘intangibles’ are).
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 28, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
Jay put up some pretty guady numbers in Denver, especially in ‘08. But he’s always thrown a lot of INTs, wherever he’s played – averaging right around 20-25 picks/year.
At what point do we start to wonder if maybe his fundamentals and his mental approach to the game have something to do with this?
Heading into this season, I was ready to say that maybe last year was a fluke, and let’s just forget about it. But after he tied the NFL record when he threw 4 picks to Donte Hall on Sunday, I’m not so sure… His reaction after the game was even more alarming. Instead of saying he made some bad decisions and some throws that he shouldn’t have forced, he comes up with: “If we played them tomorrow, I’d go right after Hall, again.” Seriously?
Tied an NFL record held by...
from AP
Hall tied a record held by 18 others and became the first to pick off four passes since Deltha O’Neal did it with Denver in 2001.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 28, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
This is totally irrelevant
Who were those QBs? All I know is that the QB for our beloved team has been awful since arriving.
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
18 out of hundreds, if not thousands of DB who've played in the league since stats started being recorded
Not a bad group to be in.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
This is an indictment
"If we played them tomorrow, I’d go right after Hall, again." Seriously?
I have a huge problem with this comment too. Basically, he’s putting his own glory ahead of the team’s success. This is what I’d ask him…why would you continue to pass to a defender that has shown great coverage all game? Why not throw to the open man? Because I had a bet with him.
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
Which QB do you want to bring in
to replace Cutler? And how well do you think he will play with the offense as it is currently constructed?
already been answered
andrew luck. jim harbaugh.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 28, 2010 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Bad and worse .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 28, 2010 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions
How can it be worst?
Since Cutler started in 2006 having been draft No11 this is his W-L record despite having a decent ground game, despite have WRs of the calibre of Brandon Marshall, despite having Pro Bowl LTs like Ryan Clady and Matt Lepsis, and TEs like Graham and Sheffler
2006 W 2-3 L
2007 W 8-8 L
2008 W 7-9 L
2009 W 7-9 L
2010 W 3-3 L to date
As a franchise QB, Cutler in basically four seasons play has yet to have a season leading his team better than .500
His record is W 27 – 32 L
How long to we continue to call in a franchise QB?
You are correct...
Cutler is no JaMarcus Russell or Brady Quinn either.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE (IT'S BACK BABY!)!!!
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
W-L record an irrelevant stat when measuring QB performance.
Just like: W-L record is an irrelevant stat when measuring pitcher performance.
It’s a ‘team’ sport. Not an individual sport. If Cutler puts up 30 points every game and the defense lets 40 by every game. for 16 games. he’s 0-16.
If he has a defense that holds people to 24 points per game… he’s 16-0.
take out the constant. jay cutler. what’s the variable? defense.
now, suppose jay hands the ball of 50 times a game to Payton, Hurricane Ditka, and Payton-Ditka… bears put up 93 points per game with 12 rushing tds 1000 rushing yards and 0 passing yards. defense holds teams to -3 points per game.
cutler wins every game. 16-0.
the problem with using w-l records is that it’s completely independent to one phase of the game. it’s a combination.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 28, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
It's definitely not irrelevant
Except when a QB like Jay takes unecessary risks in the two minute drill, like over throwing your receiver by twenty yards. Especially when all the team needs is 3 points to tie the game.
Does Cutler go 16-0 when he throws 4-5 ill-timed interceptions in one half? No amount of talent offsets his type of blunders (redzone turnovers, etc.).
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
you seem to forget the greatest comeback in bears history.
On October 16, 2006, Monday Night Football, the Chicago Bears came from being down 23-3 with one minute left in the 3rd quarter to beat the Arizona Cardinals 24-23. After Rex Grossman slung 4 interceptions that day.
Why did the Bears win? Defense. Special Teams. Put up a horrible, abysmal game, and still won. If you want to tell me that Cutler’s performance was ANY WORSE than Rexy’s that day… The Bears went 13-3 that season too… Games aren’t always dependent on how bad or good a quarterback performs. Games aren’t always dependent on how bad a defense is.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 28, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course I remember
but it was an aberration cause everyone was kicking to Hester giving him a ton of opportunities to dominate a game.
"Wish the opposite sex operated like NFL redzone does. Just let me know when I’m about to score, otherwise, don’t bother me." - Jenn Sterger
You know who else have a winning record?
Rex Grossman…Defense saved him from those games and sucked at the biggest stage.
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
Its not a personal duel …. its a team game
by Black-sheep on Oct 28, 2010 10:36 AM EDT
discourse is… bring it all back around.
it isn’t a personal duel, it’s a team game. and a team win loss record.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 28, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Not missing the point at all
If you don’t think he’s any good at all, get somebody better. Pretty self-explanatory if you ask me.
I don't think we should replace Cutler
But he has to take responsibility for his mistakes and improve. The whole team does. Cutler is a great athlete, but he’s not perfect, not even close.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Whom other than Ditka can even claim to be perfect !!! :-)
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 28, 2010 2:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I at least fans are somewhat logical
Cutler’s rating has been dropping as has his playing ability. Cutler is skilled enough to play well, he showed it in the first couple games of the season when he got all the credit for his and the teams success. But it’s hypocritical to say it’s Cutler glory when he plays well and we succeed and not Cutler’s fault when he plays bad and we lose. I want Cutler to be our QB, I also support accountability, something he isn’t getting.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Moving pockets are missing.
His rating inside the pocket is around 64 I think. Outside, the pocket it goes up to 104. He’s excellent outside the pocket, but just as Ron Turner failed to adapt so too has Martz ignored this fact and there are no designed roll-outs or moving pockets (which would help a poor O-line also).
Hate to see how bad it would have to get for some of you to dissapprove of his performance.
I think the guy has all the talent in the world and is the most talented QB we have had in a very long time, nonetheless i think it is delusional to call his performance since he has been a Bear a success or anything i could say I approve of. Strip away all the BS and the performance speaks for itself. Last year’s epic nightmare of interceptions isn’t over.
Seriously how you gonna click approve when it means you approve of 4 Interceptions to one player and a fumble on the goal line all by your Franchise QB? Yay!! Go Jay you are number one!! Keep it up fella!! Same thing next week because well, “we approve”.
Technically
It says do you approve of Jay as the Bears QB… not do you approve of last weeks performance.
So am I happy with the game, no, do I still want Jay as our QB, yes.
by TheMan1 on Oct 27, 2010 9:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
no time like the present.
if not who he is now at the moment i do not know what u are referring to. Probably some mixed up logic comparing him to Orton and Grossman… but do not let that distract you from the fact that as of this moment Jay Cutler has not played well in a Bears uniform.
as of this moment Jay Cutler has not played well in a Bears uniform.
Man, was he sucking hairy donkey gonads in the game where he threw that TD in overtime to Aromashodu to beat the Vikings at the end of last season…
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Hey, you’re the one who said he’s “not played well in a Bears uniform” …..
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
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It seems like as games go on the blame is slowley shifting from the O line to Cutler. He was running for his life so much earlier in the season it seems now he is so worried about getting creamed (I can’t blame him) that he is not standing in and making smart decisions.
The line is still terrible but Jay has more blame then(than) the first few games, Can he walk after this season or do the Bears control him longer?
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
the other thing is, its two home games that should have been won. no matter who is to blame.lets see how we do against the bills, with a week off and rested this is a sure win for us.
with a week off and rested this is a sure win for us
You’re not overly familiar with Lovie’s ways, are you?
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
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Nothing is "sure" on this team.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Phrase it another way ...
Would you rather have Kyle plus two first round draft picks, a third rounder, and hand back the route-wrecker known as Johnny Knox?
Especially
If the 2009 pick was Michael Oher OT
or the 2010 pick was Dez Bryant WR
and that missing 3rd rounder was Mike Wallace WR
That fault lies on JA, not on Cutler.
And JA wouldn’t pick those anyway.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Oct 28, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
JA would have drafted
a defensive tackle, a guy from Abeliene Christian, and a guy who can jump out of a pool
I approve of him
Even with the O-Line allowing him to get killed, he will still do as much as he can to try to win the game.
Unfortunately, it looks like he is shell shocked from all of the hits he is taking. I hope he doesn’t wind up like David Carr.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
You buy in a buyer's market place
If Cutler improves I want him to stay, but on his current performances, any new GM and Head Coach will ask themselves if they really need to think of going in a different direction, especially as they will have a little bit of latitude as a new team shaking things up to take things forward.
If we did decide to replace Cutler, and probably through the draft, you don’t do this in a year with few prospects. You do in a year where there are a load of prospects with a 1st round grade.
What happens if we decide to stick with Cutler in 2011, only to find the prospects in 2012 extremely poor?
The Bills decided that based on a couple of good performances to stick with Losman in both 2006 and 2007 and passed on Leinart, CUTLER, and Brady Quinn. While Cutler has had only a marginal record and the other two flopped, either could have succeeded at Ralph Wilson and been seen as the new regimes man – instead when the Bills did decide to let Losman go, there were very few prospects in the draft, so they then had to stick with Edwards. In retrospect, they should have jumped at Leinart or Cutler in 2006.
And this is the question facing a new regime – stick with Cutler, on try to get your OWN guy in, during a deep class of QBs?
I could tell who wrote this before I was halfway through. You should change your username to Son of Geomak.
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by Spongie on Oct 29, 2010 5:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But that's the username I wanted....
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Rookie Pay Scale
If the NFL decide to introduce a rookie pay scale after this years draft, you are going to have a stampede of juniors trying to declare
We don’t want to find ourselves deciding to replace Cutler because he has shown no improvement, only to discover there is no quality in the draft
How could anyone still approve of Cutler? Homer be thy name ...
I was a huge defender and apologist for him last year. But now I see that he isn’t cocky, he’s just arrogant. His claim that he would go after DeAngelo Hall again the same way must have Hall licking his chops hoping to meet Cutler in the playoffs. His jersey is already in the HOF Jay, what part of ‘owned’ do you not get? That shrug just gets worse and worse and more annoying. What has Jay done for us ? 33 interceptions 34 touchdowns, he’s lost more games than he’s won. How did I fall in love with this guy?
Here goes ….
So far …. we would be better off with Kyle Orton and those picks back.
Period. No argument. Yes, we have a poor line. Yes, we have poor wide receivers. But three of those picks were all on Cutler. Sometimes he does have time to throw. Sometimes people are open. He was holding onto the ball for six seconds in some instances in the Giants game. There was the DeAngelo Hall-type frisson with Woodson (or was it the safety?) versus Green Bay where the guy had his hands on the ball three times. He’ll continue to go after a guy that’s beating him, he just won’t let go like a dog with a bone. Pure arrogance, and he’s backed it up with nothing except interceptions. He makes a near-interception, gets away with it … and makes exactly the same dumb throw on the very next play. His accuracy sucks to make matters worse, yet he strides around like The Fonz thinking he’s Joe Montana with four rings to his name.
But he’s not going anywhere, so we need to make smarter play-calls, build that wall around him and get proper WRs in the 6’4 region …. and he needs to throw it away 4-5 times a game.
by Wally&Mac on Oct 28, 2010 3:54 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Excellent post
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head
At what point are excuses no longer made for a QB whose best season is .500 for a team where he had a good OL, a Pro Bowl LT, and an elite WR?
The thing with Jay is that even if we decide to wave goodbye, there will be a team who will fall in love with his physical skills and believe they can make him better because at 26, he is still young.
Jake Locker is falling down in mock drafts after his performances against Nebraska and Arizona, but there are still going to be coaches who fall in love with athleticism and will look to trade down to get him.
The draft value Maths does suggest that it is definitely possible for the Bears as a team to trade and move up to select either Luck or Mallett …..
If the Panthers, Broncos, Lions and 49ers, then the first QB taken might go as low as No5 because even though the 49ers might want a QB, they could decide to go for a OLB like Quinn and get a QB like Ponder in Round 2.
It is extremely unlikely but not impossible.
Its a year of accountability
and no one is immune. I disapprove of Cutler right now. That is not me saying “trade him”, the deadline has passed and we don’t know how the season will play out. It isn’t me saying “bench him”, we have nothing better to offer. “Trade him, bench him” statements are emotional, but pretty illogical, right now. Bad as we have been, you don’t plan to trade your QB when sitting on a 1st place division record with 10 games left to play. That isn’t where your mind is. If we lose 6-8 of the next 10 games and nothing improves, you have that conversation in the off-season, when it might happen.
With that in mind, I have no more stomach for “blame the Coordinator, blame the receivers, blame the line”. All of them have issues and should be accountable for their mistakes. None of them are accountable for someone else’s mistakes. Quarterbacks can be in a situation where their line plays bad, their coordinator doesn’t call the best play, and they can still find a way to make something good happen OR throw it away. Wide receiver miscommunications happen, but if you are throwing the ball where you should, it should be difficult to intercept even if the WR doesn’t get to it.
To date, Cutler has thrown 33 interceptions in 22 games of action in Chicago. That is unacceptable and entirely his fault.
“The line sucks!”. Yes it does. Rodgers got railed last year for over 50 sacks, but he only had 7 interceptions in the season. He took some sacks he shouldn’t have, and he threw some balls away. He didn’t throw 4 picks in a game. Everyone has those 3-6 pick games, but Cutler has them more than other QBs and that is an instant loss. You don’t win games when one players gives the ball away 3-6 times.
“The receivers are too dumb to make proper reads/too short to reach ball/too weak to beat press/too whatever”. Yes, sometimes they are. None of that explains why every ball Cutler throws requires a receiver to jump for it. His accuracy is off and its killing everyone. He is overthrowing his completions, never mind his interceptions. That is HIS fault. His mechanics are poor. That is his problem.
Cutler is better than anything else we have and will remain our starter. That doesn’t mean I have to be happy with his miserable play. HE is making bad reads (Chester Taylor identified Cutler is failing to read his hot routes on DB blitzes). HE is making bad decisions and “forcing” things that don’t NEED to be forced (we have trailed by more than 1 score for less than 10 minutes this entire season). HE is holding the ball too long. Our O line is screwing him, but he isn’t making his reads while dropping, he is waiting until he finishes his drops, and he is getting railed for it. He isn’t progressing through his reads quickly…That is HIS problem. HE is trying to tuck it and run after evading pressure rather than looking back upfield as a QB is supposed to. HE runs into sacks after escaping them, for no good reason.
Cutler is responsible for his performance EXCEPT when it comes to dropped passes or sacks that occur DURING the drop to pass. He chooses where and when to put the ball, and he puts it in the wrong spot too often.
I don’t want Orton back. I don’t want to draft Luck. I want Cutler to get his head together and remember that being a man means being accountable. He is arrogant, because he doesn’t fix his issues. I am tired of the “that’s the way he plays” crap too. This is a profession, “who you are” isn’t an excuse for poor performance.
by Brendan Hess on Oct 28, 2010 9:46 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Well done.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
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