Bears at Giants Quick Recap
Well this picture says it all.
The only particularly noteworthy stat of the night is the 10 sacks given up by the Bears, and the two quarterbacks knocked out of the game. Everything else was pedestrian and largely terrible football, at least from the Bears standpoint. The defense played it's hearts out, but was unable to overcome the legen-wait for it-dary bad performance of the Bears offense.
Hats off to the Giants defensive line, they won this game.
I'll be back in the morning with notes, scribbles, and things. I need to chill out before I can write something like that.
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No, just most all of them....
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Great comments tonight guys. See you Tuesday for the most depressing "Best of" ever!!!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
The Bears need to go OL shopping.
"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein
by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Oct 3, 2010 10:28 PM CDT reply actions
everyone knew this was the case
I am worried that the league is now going to blitz us into oblivion, we might be looking at a long season with this Oline that isnt fit for div 1 college.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
They didn't blitz that much, though
A lot of their pressure came from the four lineman. How the Bears were able to handle themselves well against the blitzes of the two previous 3-4 teams and then come out and shove their thumbs up their bums is beyond me.
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Martz can beat you on a blitz
if your down 4 can get home, theres not a whole lot he can do it.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
And have needed to for 3 years
Would be nice to get an DE who could take advantage of the attention Peppers attracts too.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
amen to that.
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Only 1 Sack in the 2nd Half - YAY!
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 3, 2010 10:29 PM CDT reply actions
Well
they made the necessary adjustments then eh….Sure Lovie can use that in the post game presser….
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
we only had the ball like 2x in the 2nd half
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 4, 2010 3:39 AM CDT up reply actions
i think they did, until they just caved in
"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott
I didn't think the D gave up.
They were still swarming to the ball and playing with heart. They were just really really really tired. Both physically and mentally. You could see it. They started playing a second slower, and unable to bring down the runner. You could tell that they were playing with urgency, trying to cause fumbles and do something to win the game, but they just didn’t have the energy to execute.
Any defense that goes out on that field for that amount of time will start to crack in the fourth quarter.
Ya....
No…..
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Farnsworth Bently has spoken.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
And his word is law.
At least in my world.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Shaffer wasn't an answer anyway
TIme to see if WIlliams is a solution or another thing we need to fix.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Cutler seems to blow on national TV
not sure why
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:29 PM CDT reply actions
His diabetes makes his vision suck at night?
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
can people stop saying that or back it up with some medical facts
unless your kidding, and then haha.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Some of us were saying that last year after a couple of his bad SNF games.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
so ur kidding, ok.
funny
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
and this is my first year here at WCG
sorry to not get the inside joke
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
As someone who actually IS
nightblind, can we get a new schtick?
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Even disregarding this fact
It’s a stupid meme.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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I'm sorry Allie. I just got sick of people looking for excuses for Cutler's terrible play last year. Night vision diabetes?? WTF??
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
was this a good enough lesson
today about looking ahead
jax beat indy
ny beat chicago
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Oct 3, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
How about...
That’s racist! No.
Cutler’s a crybaby! No.
We need an emotional head coach! No.
Matt Jones! No.
Mark Schlereth is a douche! No.
Plaxico Burress! No.
Zooweemama! (Yes.)
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The O line
playing Ole, Ole had a little something to do with it no? Didnt watch the game….Recorded it but why bother….
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
It wasn't Cutler tonight. It was Omiyale, Louis, Shaffer, Manu, Kreutz, OLSEN, etc.
Cutler had a poor performance last week. But this week, he didn’t even have a chance to suck. There was absolutely NO time. Here’s the scary thing. Most of the time, the Giants were rushing with only their front four.
When you have pressure with the front four, there are no holes to exploit in the defense. Simple as that.
Disgusting.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Two words: Logan Mankins
GET IT DONE JIM ….oh wait….jerry
Annos Catuli. Every Year.
by OldStyle_and_Ivy on Oct 3, 2010 10:30 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Just brutal
For a while there, i thought I was going to see Bobby Douglass come onto the field.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
Someone tell those people at the Giants stadium to stop playing that godawful Empire State of Mind song...
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
ive been complaining
about this o-line since week one.
they are horrible im trying to figure out what mike tice smokes cause he thought we looked good
HE MAY BE STILL WORKING FOR THE VIKINGS WATCH HIM…. wait who said that?
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Oct 3, 2010 10:31 PM CDT reply actions
They are terrible
but Tice is never gonna be like “oh yea, these fuckers can’t block my grama”
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
Every single Oliner gets tossed out ASAP
Then Tice right after them.
by northernsails on Oct 3, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, no
because they could block his grammy, just not any Offensive Player who gets a paycheck.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 3, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
remember
when i listed all the free agent linemen available maybe i should have sent that message to the bears management
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Oct 3, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
At over four balloons, he'd take up enough space
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Oct 3, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Whats the
James “Big Cat” Williams doing now? How about Stan Thomas…….
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
well we cant win them all, but hell we got problems
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:33 PM CDT reply actions
not expecting to win them all
but i damn sure dont want to see 10 sacks in a game
get some o-line help like yesterday
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Oct 3, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Last time, I swear!
Remember last year when we started off 3-1 with a win over the Steelers and everyone was thinking we we’re the real deal? Yeah, good times, good times….
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
we also lost Urlacher, Tino...
and a crap ton of other defensive players early in the season last season. Granted we don’t know much about Cutler’s concussion yet, or what it will do to his future.
And I’m not saying we don’t have issues, of course we do. Go back and read my comments prior to this game, or even pre/post draft about the offensive line. All I’m saying is last year =/= this year.
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And in reference to the Pollyana comment last night...
I’m the one who said this just last week:
We all need to pump the brakes a little…
Sure we’re 3-0 and sit atop the division/ conference, with two of our "biggest" games behind us. However, for as much good as we’ve seen, there’s equally as much to be concerned about.
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Anything I said last night was said in a state of rage and should only be taken in that context.
Sorry.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Haha. No worries.
It’s definitely understandable.
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the seahawks cut a Olineman last week
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:34 PM CDT reply actions
Chester Pitts came off knee surgery and still isn't healthy
Bandwagon leader for Michael Robinson as Seattle Seahawks starting QB.
ok, didnt know the background on the guy
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
It was bound to happen
we could only survive with the o line problems for so long before it came back to haunt us.
Martz did a poor job with his play calling.
No matter what people say Cutlers concussion had to have happened in the first quarter something was just off about him.
Hats of to the giants defensive line they got it done and won the game. hope we meet again
What's the likelyhood that we can convince Kurt Warner to come out of retirement to get his ass kicked?
Annos Catuli. Every Year.
by OldStyle_and_Ivy on Oct 3, 2010 10:36 PM CDT reply actions
Warner wouldn't come back to play behind this line.....
by David in Maine on Oct 3, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
We couldn't get JaMarcus Russel to play behind these guys.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 3, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Not even
if they threw in a box of donuts? …..
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
yeahh.
that was the point of the joke (although no hate intended)…I’m just in A GLASS CASE OF EMOTION!!
Annos Catuli. Every Year.
by OldStyle_and_Ivy on Oct 3, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would he?
He’s got enough money, a ring, a bunch of people saying he’s a HOF, and now has the chance to spend time with family.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Oct 3, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously,
He’s not interested in seeing his dear departed family.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 3, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
All Kurt Warner should do is call Jay up and warn him not to come back too soon.
I love Kurt, and he knows he’s had at least a dozen concussions that have yet to show their final toll on his system. It’s just not worth it.
The Chicago Bears--Causing other teams to beat themselves since Week 1.
Sorry I'm too busy frowning in disgust to laugh
Annos Catuli. Every Year.
by OldStyle_and_Ivy on Oct 3, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Lovie's interview
This game counts as one loss.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
Are you effing serious? THat's what he said?
The Chicago Bears--Causing other teams to beat themselves since Week 1.
I'm guessing he'll add..
- “we’re 3-1 this quarter”
- “lots of football games left”
- “we like our O-line”
- “We know what’s wrong and we’re going to fix it” possibly adding a “trust me” onto that
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Think he'd come back??
(yes, i’m that desperate)
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Well, Jerry DOES have this year's first rounder to trade away...
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
ATTN JERRY:
Please please please draft a healthy offensive lineman in the first round this year!
Sincerely, SJS.
Oh, wait, stop giving him ideas. Ok, sorry.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm actually hoping he's not there for the draft.
by northernsails on Oct 3, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope he's there...
but only as long as at least three WCG members are right behind him. When he makes a move we disapprove of, such as a draft pick from Abilene Christian or Vanderbilt, or another pool-jumping D-Lineman, he gets a simultaneous three-way low-voltage tazing.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
well
if he takes those guys with a late second day pick? fine.
he’s good at value picks. but the premo actual impact guys? he sucks.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Yeah.
If it’s a move we decide we approve, it’s fine. If it makes no sense or is assuredly going to fail miserably, tazing.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I get the
feeling that mister Angelo will not be around for the 2011 draft….but thats just me…
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Now, THAT is funny
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Seriously...
I’m not mad at the defense, they looked pretty good most of the night.
However, I’m absolutely crazy pissed at Martz, after the first 5 sacks is there a reason we didn’t go to the three step drops and the rest of the Cowboys package? It was obvious that we weren’t going to get the time to throw it down field so do something else?
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yup adjustments just werent there tonight
everyone said to expect a game from Martz where he just wont admit he is wrong
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
There wasn't a blitz to counteract
Most of it was just being generated by their linemen, who played like beasts tonight.
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the supposed Cutler concussion hit was a DB blitz but your basically right
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Tuck is a beast and so is Osi when motivated+1
In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Absolutely
The Giants basically ran the Cover-2 to perfection last night.
The Bears O-line was terrible.
Then when Cutler did start to get a little time, it was too late for him. Mentally, the Giants D-line had already beaten Cutler.
I don't know that it really matters if they are blitzing or not...
A lot of the sacks were “coverage” sacks, where Cutler knew there was pressure coming, but had no one to throw to.
Having two of your three or four receivers running 20 yards down field, many times with no one in the flat, is absolutely horrendous play calling when you are getting three seconds on average to safely get rid of the ball, and four seconds to unsafely get rid of the ball.
There was no reason we shouldn’t have seen some kind of Bennett, Olsen, Forte, Taylor and either Aroma or Knox as the lone deep route, or Kellen Davis as an additional short to intermediate outlet/blocker. Flood the short to intermediate route, swing passes with blockers, crossing routes across the middle, 10 yard come backs, anything to make the DL hesitate a bit. The biggest issue wasn’t the OL getting beat, but getting beat so badly that Cutler generally didn’t even get the opportunity to buy some more time.
Basically what I’m saying is, if the short passing game is going to be your running game then you need to actually go to it when you would normally start running the ball.
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by Jacob Hayes on Oct 4, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
i don't blame him
i would be too. offense was reminiscent of the offense during that arizona game during the superbowl run. except our defense couldn’t bail us out.
I would hope so they played basically 2 full games in one 60 minute time frame
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey
Like last season…..Only a worse O line and worse running game…..
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
This is why you're DaHamsta
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 3, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
If only the Lions had come through, we'd still have a buffer
Those Lions are going to win a division game this year, I just hope it isn’t us.
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Is my mind a'goin on me or am I watchin you jibber jabber like some sorta jibberty box. Jibber Jabber on! Jibber Jabber on! -- Early Cuyler
I seriously doubt this team is going anywhere.
As I kept saying during the second half, this is a dead season, IMO.
by northernsails on Oct 3, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
But it
wasnt ignored….Draft picks were spent on it just 7th rounders….
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Spend the week working on
run blocking and TACKLING.
And maybe theres a way out of the mess.
I however am still not sold.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
"The truth finally came out here." -Collinsworth.
PRICK!!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
well if they dont make a move and shore up this line he is right on with that assessment
and we all had been saying it all offseason. The Oline got outed on national TV. However Collinsworth is still a prick.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I would say he's a huge prick.
But that would be a compliment to his useless ass.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 3, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Post Game Grades
QB’s: C, Cutler was terrible, Hanie made a nice throw, Collins was the same as Hanie
RB’s: C, Better burst than expected
WR’s: B-, Knox is still good
TE’S: D, Olson caught a block but can’t block
OL’s: F- Horrible
DL’s: B+, Good pressure all night. Pep and Izzy played well
LB’s: B, Briggs was bad. Pisa was solid and Brian was all over
DB’s: B-, Good in run support for the most part, had to play man which is out of comfort zone
K: Gould was bad on kickoffs
P: Maynard was horrible tonight, need to look for an heir
ST: Hester let two go that he should have tried to pick up
We are still 3-1. Let’s all calm down. We overreact to everything. Plenty of time. Overall, a fun season to this point.
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Rose-Boozer-Noah
We have a HORSE named Horsa.
Just lock up Seabs now!
Bear Down, Chicago Bears, our D is our victory
Which one
was Collins’ good throw?
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Olson
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Rose-Boozer-Noah
We have a HORSE named Horsa.
Just lock up Seabs now!
Bear Down, Chicago Bears, our D is our victory
Hmmm.
I say more good play by Olson than good throw by Collins, but I’ll allow it.
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Perfect back shoulder although good catch yes
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Rose-Boozer-Noah
We have a HORSE named Horsa.
Just lock up Seabs now!
Bear Down, Chicago Bears, our D is our victory
Bro I want to agree but that OLine is NOT going to allow us to have a good season
by frenchbears113 on Oct 3, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't disagree.
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Rose-Boozer-Noah
We have a HORSE named Horsa.
Just lock up Seabs now!
Bear Down, Chicago Bears, our D is our victory
WR’s: B-, Knox is still good
Are you joking me?? He caught 1 pass. ONE!!. Our #1 receiver! How many passing yards did the Bears have all night? How open were they?
by northernsails on Oct 3, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Not on the WR when Jay has 1 second
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Rose-Boozer-Noah
We have a HORSE named Horsa.
Just lock up Seabs now!
Bear Down, Chicago Bears, our D is our victory
How when we have small receivers? This is why we should have a got Boldin or Marshall. Not system WR. That is crap.
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Rose-Boozer-Noah
We have a HORSE named Horsa.
Just lock up Seabs now!
Bear Down, Chicago Bears, our D is our victory
Yes but that was thanks to Martz's scheme.
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Rose-Boozer-Noah
We have a HORSE named Horsa.
Just lock up Seabs now!
Bear Down, Chicago Bears, our D is our victory
That doesn't matter
They are paid to: #1 get open, #2 catch the ball, #3 gain yards.
by northernsails on Oct 3, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
thank you
I was saying that all offseason, but I dont think it would have mattered tonight. We could have had Lynn Swann and Steve Largent and lost.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Only
thing is Martz wants to the short fast “shifty” type of WR….So that was never even an option IMO….
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep. Take the good and the bad with Martz. More good IMO but needs time for his system.
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Rose-Boozer-Noah
We have a HORSE named Horsa.
Just lock up Seabs now!
Bear Down, Chicago Bears, our D is our victory
Too much more "time"
and a concussion will be the least of Jay’s worries.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Jay had a second
he needs to pull the trigger on some throws.
i mean, he still woudl’ve gotten whacked. but thats nothing new.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I give Cutler a D+ and the WRs a C-
the wide outs needed to come back to the QB when they see the blitz and Cutler needed to pickup the blitz and adjust. F- isnt enough for the Oline, someone needs to get cut for what happened tonight, I just dont know who we can afford to give up.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Martz's doesn't like hot routes. He wants to stay with "what is called". Stupid IMO but that's Martz. They know that.
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Just lock up Seabs now!
Bear Down, Chicago Bears, our D is our victory
interesting, makes sense from what we saw tonight
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Everyone on offense: F
(Except the line, they get an I. For incompentent)
The defense gets a solid B.
They did everything you could ask for. Except score. But if your defense is your best hope of offense you’re gonna lose anyway.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Oct 3, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Like in 2006? When I told everyone that was a fluke. Need a franchise QB to consistanly win in the NFL.
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We have a HORSE named Horsa.
Just lock up Seabs now!
Bear Down, Chicago Bears, our D is our victory
I would still give them an F for lack of existence.
by northernsails on Oct 3, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
there is no grade low enough for the Oline and blocking in this game
reminds me of my HS report card where a teacher wrote in handwritting that you have to show up to class once in a while and fail to get an F.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
he scratched out the F and wrote a big 0
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe thwere's a rule that states..
When your OLine gives up 10 sacks, you have the right to overreact
A dozen for Devin baby
Something about a team demotion to the minors?
Oh, I guess this isn’t the Premier League, is it.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 4, 2010 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions
How was Cutler terrible
He didn’t have enough time to even look bad
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
At least we can go back to being the underdog again.
being favored sucks and always screws us over.
Annos Catuli. Every Year.
by OldStyle_and_Ivy on Oct 3, 2010 10:42 PM CDT reply actions
we weren't favored
giants by 4 was the line this week.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
But we untechnically were,
especially considering that the Giant’s were “supposed” to be in disarray.
Annos Catuli. Every Year.
by OldStyle_and_Ivy on Oct 3, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
vegas wasnt fulled as the giants were 4 point favs IIRC….
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
After missing the game thread by watching THAT...
All I want to do is curse. Grah.
- Sloppy sloppy game.
- After borrowing Coach Quenneville’s line generator modified for O-Linemen, about all we really can do is just pray for better line play.
- If our hopes are pinned on Collins or Hanie for a few games, may Ditka help us all.
- Nine first half sacks. Now imagine if Kiwanuka was actually playing. Or not. I’d prefer not.
- Forte cannot run the ball, especially behind this line. Taylor only looked marginally better. As long as the line is this crappy, the offense just crawls to a halt. Kinda what you’d expect.
- Was anyone else having flashbacks to 2004 or 2005?
- On the Cutler interception in Olsen’s direction, he got too focused on his binky again… He had Knox running the drag, would’ve been a simple pitch and catch for the first down.
- Brandon Jacobs clearly still has ability. I guess somewhere down the line we got unused to getting hit in the mouth by a back.
- Batman needs a Robin on that line. Melton was getting more consistent penetration, though Harris did have that nice one play.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 10:44 PM CDT reply actions
Tommie Harris needs to be traded for a 12 pack of Miller Lite and a bag of Oreos.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
At least they can give them to Peppers for compensation....
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
you can't get Oreos
for Tommie Harris anymore. Maybe some grahm crackers or something that taste good but is generic maybe?
i don't give a shit about harris
a fan isn’t going to be effectively evaluate an interior lineman without great access to coaches tape.
I think the angst from fans over Harris insane. Sure, he’s been dominant before, but those days are done. And if he’s as bad as everyone says you’re not going to get anything for him. And if he’s not, then you need to do EVERYTHING in your power to get him back in the fold
I just meant that Oreos in general sound awesome. I could eat about a thousand of them after that game. You all have booze. I don’t drink. I choose chocolate.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
No booze here...
The house is still dry. >_<
I think about the only thing that takes care of a crappy game like this is a good night of sleep. Which I just can’t seem to do yet.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Booze vs Chocolate is the primary difference between you and me I would hazzard...
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
unfortuneately we got bigger problems than Harris
he is the least of our problems with this Oline.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, he doesn't even play o-line.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Maybe we could trade him for a O line high school prospect we can develop?
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Tommie'd kick ass against high schoolers....
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
i have a couple girl scouts who might be able to give him a run for his money
and cookies
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harris just doesn't have it anymore
he plays hard, but often gets manhandled. and whenever he actually beats his man (or double team), he falls down. he had zero impact on the game.
by guy incognito on Oct 3, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
he doesn't suck
but he’s an average DT, maybe slightly above-average on good days. he’s been a non-factor in the 3 games he’s played this year. at the very least, the tommie harris experience will be over this offseason. i think there is virtually no chance he doesn’t get cut.
by guy incognito on Oct 3, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
In contrast to what he was he does
But that is why he gets away with quotes like im playing good, just not tommie good. and that crap. We are paying for Tommie good. So by that standard he sucks. but yeah you are right. Ave DT. ITs just sad to see, cause he is trying. just lost the ability
I'd like to crown nim...
Tommie “fall down” Harris! What a fall from greatness!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMY!...
This comment ...
this comment made me laugh. And I haven’t laughed all night. Dave, well done.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Wait...did I just hear that right??
Lovie about Cutler “Coming out of halftime, we forgot he had a concussion…”
You forgot?
I didn't listen
But surely, it has to be we found out, and his drawl is covering it…right?
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I...I honestly dont know.
I thought I heard him say that and I am praying that I misheard it.
by northernsails on Oct 3, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
if the o-line plays like this
you can have marshall faulk, kurt warner, tory holt, and isaac bruce in their primes line up, and not do anything. you cannot have any success on offense if your line gives you no time to do anything when the other team isn’t even blitzing. unless the line play improves significantly, we have no chance of winning anything.
lance louis also got injured
i’m not sure that’s good or bad given how the line played. didn’t even notice it…he didn’t play at all in the 2nd half. leg injury.
he was bad also
In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
so i'm guessing hanie is starting next week
is it fair to say Collins is out?
I wanna know who else is our QB option. I still like Jeff Garcia.
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I still like Jeff Garcia.
Too late for that, I’m afraid.
Iggles picked him up after their game
by northernsails on Oct 3, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I has a sad...
Help wanted: QB for Chicago Bears. Thick skull and lack of instinct for self preservation a plus. Inquire within.
Martz
wouldnt want him any ways…Doesnt know his system….
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
saw that coming
In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Well they had to get rid of him for
the amazing Collins
In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
I mean, there's a reason
he’s only got 20 career starts, right?
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
You missed a space.
it’s cuz he’s such a bad ass.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
We'd be much better off if we never SAW his ass in-game.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Thought you weren't noticing
his bad, old NFL-bench-riding ass.
;-)
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
you're the one talking about his butt
not me… i was just saying where his butt should be.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I'm the one talking about how I didn't WANT to notice his butt.
Noticing that it left the bench is bad enough.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
with a freaking decade in between starts...lol
In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Football Outsiders:
FO_BBarnwell Quarterbacks sacked nine times or more in a game from 1993-2009 are 1-19-1.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
So letting your quarterback get drilled is bad.
Thanks, FO!
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Shocking, huh?
I just thought that someone salvaged a win or tie out of it was startling.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
IIRC
I heard Angelo tested out the O line in Madden 11 and they did ok….But it was the Wii version…..
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Jerry must be one of "those people"
Who plays on Rookie and manually edits the roster to all 99s.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey
I do that…er I mean ha I know what you mean…..Ya thats it…
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
NBC put up a stat
that the last time this happened to us was 1963. And i believe we won a championship that year..
Game ball... Oline
And it gets shoved right up their asses
by TheMan1 on Oct 3, 2010 10:56 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Do
they get to bend over or “lube up” first?
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
they get the Giants gameball you mean?
In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
The way the Oline played
I fully expect the Giants to give this Oline the game ball
by TheMan1 on Oct 3, 2010 11:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
me as well
In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Extremely pissed off and disappointed.
This o-line sucks, but Cutler did hold on to the ball on a few plays way too long. Kinda glad I’m not drunk right now.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
to be fair
its hard to turn turd sandwiches into gold. i mean, how many of the giants sacks came on them flat out beating our guys one-on-one? and by beat, i mean manhandle. technique and practice helps, but if you get destroyed 1-on-1 that consistently, you’re just not that good.
by guy incognito on Oct 3, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
So sucking ass..
is the new mantra of this O-line? How pathetic!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMY!...
its who they are
unless chris williams comes back and plays like he did at LT last year, i don’t really see how you can turn this unit into a decent one.
by guy incognito on Oct 3, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
even that would only take them
from “catastrophic” to “survivable”.
Nothing other than total overhaul is gonna make this line work.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Honestly feel sorry for Cutler.
All the talent in the world and he gets put behind one of, if not the worst o-line in the league.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
at least he's not surprised
they’ve been godawful for years now.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Definitely shouldn't be surprised but still.
All the picks and money into Cutler, and we don’t help him out by putting at least a servicable o-line in front of him? Ridiculous.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
the fans aren't the only one
who don’t know how to have a qb.
wish they’d done the clean house and new system thing last off season.
installing yet another system after the lockout is going to suck.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Oooh, fun.
A new system. With a bunch of guys that either still aren’t very good or who are pushing down retirement’s door and Cutler & a few exceptions.
Can’t we just wait for the future to get here?
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
You could drink yourself into a coma.
And hope you awake once the house has been cleaned. I’m thinking about it.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
he has all but accepted the Giants job
people think in NY
In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
I'd think he was holding out
for the Carolina job…
by David in Maine on Oct 3, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
He doesn't sound like a man who
misses coaching. He seems to be enjoying being in the studio.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
More time around his kids I'd guess.
Plus his wife passing away not too long ago, I wouldn’t try to rush back either.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
Well
if HE hasn’t agreed then it’s not true. If he takes it then the Bears need to get either Chico or Jim Harbaugh
by frenchbears113 on Oct 3, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I want whoever the next Tomlin is.
Some young gun who can handle the pressure and insanity.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Not sure I trust the McCaskey's
To hire someone that can do either.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
we already did the new system thing
instead of doing it twice, i wish they’d just done the whole hog once.
a season of suck with hope at the end is tolerable. a season of suck knowing MORE suck is going to happen is not so much.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Agreed.
The thought of doing it again is not a good one.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
You can only polish a turd so much
as the end of the day, its still a turd.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Exactly what I told my friend tonight.
They cut to Tice multiple times during the game, all I could was shake my head. If you’re given a piece of shit, you can dress it up and praise it all you want but it’s still a piece of shit.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
With
what he has to work with? Angelo and or Lovie deserve all the O line blame for investing in aging vets or 7th round “raw talent” players….
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Oct 3, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
he was probably already concussed at that point
the kid was shell shocked, now I see why they are taking these head injuries so seriously these days.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Oline
can we trade the entire draft now for Mankins?….seems like we could use the damn help…if your going to ruin the drafts to get Cutler why not do it to get someone to protect his butt
by l3ig_lvlike_430 on Oct 3, 2010 11:00 PM CDT reply actions
Yep. McNeill as well?
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Rose-Boozer-Noah
We have a HORSE named Horsa.
Just lock up Seabs now!
Bear Down, Chicago Bears, our D is our victory
saddest part is that Jeff Otah was taken a couple spots after Williams. He is a beast in the run game
by frenchbears113 on Oct 3, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya, remember all the draft prognosticators had us taking Mendenhall or Otah
I thought either would be great.
Then we pick Williams. No one saw a reason for him over Otah, all they could come up with was that Williams might be ready to start immediately and Otah might need some coaching. Then Williams has back surgery and doesn’t play much, Otah starts immediately.
Gosh darn that Jerry, he outsmurted us agin!
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Is my mind a'goin on me or am I watchin you jibber jabber like some sorta jibberty box. Jibber Jabber on! Jibber Jabber on! -- Early Cuyler
baker also
In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Harris
give them Tommie Harris and a 2nd and 4th rounder and be happy to save some money on Harris and use it to give Mankins a contract he deserves
by l3ig_lvlike_430 on Oct 3, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
quickly any background on Logan Mankins
to depressed to google it
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
mankins
is a legit beast with a legit lumberjack beard. id trade pretty much anything for him right now.
he will want over 7 mil a year
I want him but they can’t be held hostage for him.
In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
tommie harris has no value whatsoever
yet another game where he has had zero impact. we’re stuck with him ’til we cut him in the offseason.
by guy incognito on Oct 3, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
no thats to much to give up for him imo.
They are done he will never play for the Pats again, they will trade him or he walks. Mankin is a good solid player
In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
So when does the o-line...
get better? Does this cost Lovie his job??!!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMY!...
I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!
Drunken rant…. Good night all. We’re back to some kind of reality right now. BEAR DOWN!!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
alright this was fun
well to read anyways……Cya tomorrow…..and pray for Cutlers health this season and hope makes it through….
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
good night boys
Lets regroup and figure this one out for next week.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Oct 3, 2010 11:09 PM CDT reply actions
you guys make awful football
less miserable.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
woah.
SPeaking of miserable:
FO_BBarnwell From what I can tell, Jay Cutler set the all-time sack record (45 percent) for a quarterback in one game (minimum: 10 attempts).
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I love the Chicago Bears to death.
The only team I root for and will be the only team I ever root for. Their performance tonight was not only embarrassing to themselves, but for the fans across the globe. I’ll give credit to the D though b/c they kept us in the game for while by themselves. Only one game though, so let’s hope for a far better performance next week.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
Got to say glad I did not go to this game
Would of been pretty pissed.
In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Chester Taylor is not getting an opportunity. He did have a couple solid runs tonight.
What’s the best way to utilize him? It seems like he’s unnecessary as long as Forte is healthy.
panthers and seahawks are out next games
both teams all playing tough, if we have cutler we should be able to bounce back if we dont?…….
Fetal position and, if you are so inclined, copious amounts of alcohol.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
seachickens aren't very good on the road
and steve smith went off on a cart injuried.
so long as jay comes back healthy, we’ll be watchable at least.
if he doesn’t, we’re screwed regardless of who we’re playing.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Well guys, here's to a week of talking about what went wrong...
and a week of talking about how to beat the Carolina Kitties. I’m gonna go to bed before I start typing stuff that doesn’t make sense – well, less sense than usual.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 3, 2010 11:29 PM CDT reply actions
what went wrong? the line
end of story. it was like a college team playing a pro team out there. if we bring that kind of effort, we will not beat anyone without the defense and special teams doing our scoring, because we have no shot at doing anything on offense if the opposing team can be in the backfield without blitzing within 4 seconds of the snap on almost every play.
by guy incognito on Oct 4, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
You realize
that that was more or less a rhetorical statement, correct?
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 4, 2010 7:19 AM CDT up reply actions
ok, i know we can't run
But why the fuck didn’t we try to run it more? it you gotta find some way to offset that kind of QB pressure.
the defense is carrying this team, and it’s not just Peppers.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 3, 2010 11:33 PM CDT reply actions
What a day
lost at golf, lost both fantasy games, and now this..time to go to bed so it is finally tomorrow..
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
3-1 next 4 games we can be 6-2
panters— win
sehawks— win
ridskins— lose
bills— come on
am i right people am i right?
"Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting." - George Orwell
play calling was shit.
no shotgun, no screens, no nothing.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 3, 2010 11:59 PM CDT reply actions
it wouldn't have mattered
our line was so thoroughly manhandled. the giants front 7 killed any screen we tried. they were in jay’s face w/in 3 seconds, too, so even a shotgun wouldn’t have helped.
by guy incognito on Oct 4, 2010 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
As thousands put down the glass of Martz Kool-Aid
George Santayana comes to mind: “Those
who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
Martz system has typically had tons of picks, tons of sacks and a history of getting Qbs concussions. As good as the Kool-aid tasted, I think we had a reminder of the poison which lies within.
Hopefully this quote does not ring true but certainly serves as a reminder after watching this awful performance tonight. I think the thought of no Turner might have hoodwinked us a little… or maybe it was a 1 game bad fluke. Here is hoping for the latter but understanding the possibility and reality of option #1.
by TheMan1 on Oct 4, 2010 12:51 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Put this one on Martz.
Absolute refusal to try and establish the run against the 5th worse run defense in the league. Well done Mike. Abandoning the shotgun. Well done.
Cutler played so badly that one wonders if he didn’t get concussion on one of the early hits from the thousand or so he took. He was running out of bounds instead of tossing the ball away, the clock in his head either wasn’t working or he likes being hit.
Martz offenses :
1. Get their QB hit a lot.
2. Turn the ball over a lot.
3. Occasionally score a lot of points.
Well, we’re not going to achieve #3 with Todd Collins, that’s for sure. Caleb won’t last too long behind that line either, not with Greg Olsen and Omiyale’s blocking, amongst other’s – but theirs just stank.
And before anyone says thank God for our defense, Bradshaw & Jacobs ran for 129 and 62 yards with a 5 1/2 and 10 yard averages for a TD apiece. The #1 run defense looked very poor against a team that was missing their center and having trouble running the ball. Where do we go from here?
wally
the defense never got a chance to rest
they held them in check but come on we were o -12 on third down at one point in the 3rd qtr
you know what that means the offense got 12 straight 3 and outs, so where in the world would they have gotten rest.
you show me any team in the league who’s defense is playing basically every snap and isnt going to be tired.
notice how at halftime the giants as a team had 98 yrds… defense was holding but its only so long you can cover for an offensive line that quite simply put didnt get this done
im NOT blaming jay cutler
mike martz
forte
olsen
im blaming Mike Tice, that horrible O-Line, and Lovie for not going out and getting jay cutler some type of protection.
6 sacks by the opposing teams De?
a DT coming through on a pass play with almost no block from lance louis
10 sacks 6 of which were totally unavoidable and unseen
the giants might i add also did this with 4 linemen no blitz for the most part
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Oct 4, 2010 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Time of Possession
was split about 33 minutes for the Giants, 26 for the Bears.
It is not as if the Bears Defense was on the field for 45 minutes. Half and half is about right.
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and the giants
also ran 64 plays and had 18 first downs
the bears ran 52 with 6 first downs…. time of possession doesnt always tell the story Kev
the numbers show the bears offense was having alot of 3 and outs
the giants on the other hand may not have been moving the ball consistently but they tripled us on first downs
with that on third down
chicago: 0-13
n.y: 3-12
the defense allowed 98 yrds at halftime and gave up 372….
The bears had 2 possession more than 5 plays
the Giants had 5 they doubled us there
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/drivechart?gameId=301003019 numbers dont lie
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Oct 4, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
and just in case
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=301003019 this is the play by play…. show me where inside of this the giants were consistently moving the ball until the defense started being tired…
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Oct 4, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
the last thing
check this article out also… number 4 is one of my favorite points
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4666618/5-things-we-learned-bears-giants
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Oct 4, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
...
The Bears’ defense broke down late, but it kept them in the game, holding the Giants to a 3-0 lead at the half. The D forced seven three-and-out drives and forced two fumbles and recovered another. Smith said he would’ve liked to have seen more takeaways. While the Bears gave up Ahmad Bradshaw’s 129 rushing yards, only 47 came in the first half.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/columns/story?columnist=greenberg_jon&id=5646697
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Oct 4, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Punk shu a shun
The defense played it’s hearts out … .
This I Learned
1. Cutler held the ball too long (like Big Ben at times does) But I can’t blame him for the offense failure.
2. Why the Fc*k do we NEVER let the QB change the damn play?
3. This is the worst O-line EVER, PERIOD, End of discussion.
4. We had no running game, cause we didn’t run the ball when Jay was in
5. This falls on the bad Coaching, the Linemen, and Angelo’s refusual to look for better linemen.
6. Why the hell was Collins old ass in the game?
7. The Giants D-line caught the Bears O-line on a bad night (usually they will allow about four sacks before the half) Thats then on a good night.
8. Olsen STILL can’t block for nothing
9. Manumalkala was a waste of money
10. At least defense gave it their all (all except for Tommie again)
11. Peppers is still awesome.
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
Collins' old ass was in the game...
because Hanie was originally inactive and was only allowed in as the emergency QB.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 4, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Cause he's the only person
who’s so desperate for an NFL job, if Cutler got hurt he’d be willing to play behind that line.
Plus, you know, we paid him that guaranteed money.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 4, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Couple of sober thoughts...
1. Cutler concussion was probably earlier than the Ross hit; he played like he was confused.
2. The O-line is simply useless; they cannot handle 3 or 4 guys with no blitzing.
3. Manu is a waste of space and money!
4. Forte cannot run between the tackles with this O-line.
5. C Taylor can run between the tackles with this O-line.
6. T Harris is done; he’s just flailing about, falling down, and doing nothing.
7. A Adams and Toeaina are the best combo at the DTs
8. Bowman is still not as good as Jennings.
9. Martz did not adjust at all and it may have cost the Bears a chance at the playoffs.
10. Next week will show how well Lovie can coach; if he can rally his team and the coaches to actually develop, execute and modify the game plan as needed, he deserves to remain the HC. Otherwise, I’m changing my tag line back!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMY!...
A couple of other things
I agree above with L I S, I think Cutler was foggy early on and he was not himself. He was hurt and shellshocked and unable to make good decisions with the ball. But the effort on the Oline is almost unforgiveable. They were just waving at guys as they ran by it was an em"bear"assment to athletes all over the world. The only reason we won the last 2 games in spite of them was their supreme effort to make up for their lack of skill. Lack of skill + lack of effort = disaster. The line between a good team and a poor one in the NFL is a very thin margin. A poor team that comes fired up and ready to play vs. a team that has superior talent and not ready to play is going to spell trouble. Our coaches did not have our offense ready to play last night.
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
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