The Bears Den: October 5, 2010
by Dane Noble on Oct 5, 2010 6:49 AM CDT
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...where we'd lay odds that the Bears will be 7-1 at the halfway point.
Larry Mayer's most recent Chalk Talk on the team's official site.
The always insightful Brad Biggs gives his post-Giants thoughts.
Dan Pompei reviews film, and brings some analysis... good read.
Neil Hayes reminds us of some NFL concussion guidelines.
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Hayes also relates Cutler's current situation with other concussed QBs.
Lovie on Tommie: "He was willing (on Sunday) night." Whatever that means.
John 'Moon' Mullin hands out his team grades from Sunday's loss.
Mullin also questions Martz's playcalling against the Giants.
Jim Miller sounds off on the Bears terribleness.
Mike Potash has his 10 observations from Sunday night's debacle.
One of our favorite Team Reports, courtesy of USA Today.
Kevin Seifert's Free Head Exam for our Chicago Bears.
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How does this make sense when you go into a season where you know your O-line has questions?
Add to that, your history shows that your system puts your QB at risk with more sacks/hits than any other teams so, obviously, the chances of your starter going out are much higher.
Martz doesn’t make it easy on the reserve quarterbacks because they get zero reps in practice during the week.
General observation...
Bears win, fans say “we’re good” and complain that we don’t get enough credit!
Bears lose, fans say “they suck at life” and give the Giant’s team no credit!
Funny how that works out sometimes.
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If you think for one iota that you can come in here
and start being sensible, level-headed, logical, etc…
Well, you are grossly mistaken sir. There will be none of that, and if you try and bring your poppycock propaganda to this board one more time, there will be swift fury brought down upon your head known by the Greek term as “Banhammer.”
The sky IS falling, the Bears DON’T get enough credit, and we DID give the game away to the Giants.
Got it?
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
Let me do it! I’ve been taking lessons from Craig Steltz Thor
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Fools...
You ban David Taylor AKA the voice of reason and you’ll see the page views on here disipate to nothing. Mr Nobe and Mr H I have Mr. T(the real one not Adam, never thought I’d have to write that anywhere and that pretty much kills the joke) on Line 1 shall I patch him through?
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 5, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
They're just lucky I don't have the ability
to change their avatars!
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by David Taylor on Oct 5, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
I never said we're good.....
And the Giants didn’t exactly look great until they played us. Then they looked really great. That’s what gets me… just as soon as I think I have a feel for this team they go out and play the opposite of my expectations. For good or for bad they somehow manage to confound me every time….
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
At the same time, the Giants should be given credit. They stuck to the script.
The offense didn’t counter the rush.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 5, 2010 9:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Opposite expectations...
We’ve known all along that our offensive line was garbage and that the Mikes had to game plan and make adjustments to compensate. Nothing changed in this past week, it was still garbage and they did try different things. However, the Giants defense played a really damn good game, and were constantly in the backfield with only a FOUR man rush.
We, as a team, are nowhere near as bad as we showed Sunday night. Hell, our offensive line isn’t even as bad as they showed… and I’ve been one of their biggest critics throughout this off-season. And, to the counterpoint, we were never as good as people wanted to make us out to be after the first few games. Hence why I cautioned people to “pump their brakes” a bit.
Bottom line, it’s never as bad, or as good, as we think it is. We’re not a terrible team, we just got beat by a better team – that night. Our defense still played a really good game for the most part. If we would’ve capitalized on some of those early mistakes by the Giants’ special teams, the game would’ve turned out different, imo. However, we didn’t, their D continued to play great, we lost.
Now, we move on to Carolina.
And as an aside, can we kill it with the diabeetus night vision talk already. < – not directed at you, just pointing out another general observation!
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by David Taylor on Oct 5, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice avatar....
You know if I know you did that on your own I’d might have to quit as hype man. But because there is some Tom Foolery going on I shall let this pass. But damn man, I thought Gonzo was on here for a second….
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 5, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
reply above,
I jumped the gun.
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by David Taylor on Oct 5, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
some kittwhampus if you will
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I still can't answer this question. Are we a "good" team?
And as an aside, can we kill it with the diabeetus night vision talk already. < – not directed at you, just pointing out another general observation!
Sure its not. It will stop when excuses for Cutlers poor play stops. Which will be never so as a favor to you I’ll stop it……. now. But I hate all the Cutler rhetoric…
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
"Sure its not."
It most definitely is not. Skimming the boards over the past few days has been dreadful and that comment has been muttered over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
And fwiw, I’m not against Cutler taking blame. He plays his part and he should. So, I guess we kind of agree there. But we agree on more than you think we do.
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by David Taylor on Oct 5, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
No doubt
I find your banter witty and your commentary most pithy! But I don’t agree that we agree on more than you think we do. Just to be contrarian.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
As a diabetic
I’ve already dismissed this notion long ago. Sure, the disease can cause retinopathy in our eyes, but at Jay’s age I seriously doubt he’s got it since he was just diagnosed two and a half years ago. My night vision is ten times better than my girlfriends’ vision, so it’s pretty much a total farce of a theory.
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
This entire statement is pure
Balderdash, sir!
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s rac… No, that’s not the one.
Mark Sclereth is a d… Nope, still not there.
Prove it. Yup, that’s the winner. Prove it. ;)
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by David Taylor on Oct 5, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
This gets a rec purely for use of the word balderdash.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
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And then there's my stupid comments...
Bears win and I criticize their T Harris’ bad play!
Bears lose and I criticize their T Harris’ bad play!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMY!...
haha.
You’re definitely consistent. ;)
Nice sig tweak, too.
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by David Taylor on Oct 5, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I think "the power" is going to someone's head.
Eh, Dane/ Kev?
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by David Taylor on Oct 5, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm assuming you're referring to my new purple avatar.
I’m also assuming it was Dane or Kev “H” that changed it, since I would never. Well, not without losing a bet to Robert Rence.
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by David Taylor on Oct 5, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Last year
Robert and I bet “avatars” on the Vikings/Bears game. I had to sport a purple avatar until the second meeting.
This year we’re betting sigs.
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by David Taylor on Oct 5, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought I remembered that correctly...
thanks for the sanity check! BTW…I asked in another part of the post…but could you mock us up a Tommie “the Domino” Harris. It came to me as an epiphany when I red Rdent4s comments!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMY!...
My post for this week is already in progress...
but possibly for the future, no doubt. Keep the ideas coming.
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by David Taylor on Oct 5, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't want to overwhelm...
the sensitive serious artist! ;>P I can be patient…how about tomorrow?
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMIE!...
Even-keel is the way to go
Never get too high nor too low. I was happy with the disrespect the Bears were getting. It’s quite obvious with high expectations they wilt quicker than a neglected flower. When they’re looked past by the MSM and their opponents, they respond very well and usually win.
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
Bears Pocket QB's
Cutler looked a little scary last week against the Packers but he got the job done. This past weekend he looked like he was scared out there—just like Grossman used to look when he was tired of getting sacked. The one thing I notice about both of these guys is that when they look scared and tired of being sacked, the cure is a QB run play for positive yards or good play-action pass to get their confidence back. This type of play never came up in NY and Cutler looked like a deer in the headlights. Here’s to hoping he rebounds big and gains his confidence back!
what have you been smoking?
Cutler is like Grossman? Maybe you need to look again.
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 5, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Learn how to read
The comparison is how Cutler and Grossman both act when they get sacked a number of times and look scared, not knowing what to do.
by Stellarpete22 on Oct 5, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Grossman has never got what Cutler's been gettin
Add the fact that The Cannon had an all around better offense, and there’s more than meets the eye. I’d say Jay is worried about getting hit while throwing, whereas Rex was thinking too much, which led to poor throws.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 5, 2010 10:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree Cutler is definitely better than Grossman
ifuwannacrownem: The RESULTS are still the same—thinking too much and being worried about getting hit = poor plays. Rex with the bad throws and INT’s and Cutler with the holding on to the ball way too long and looking for the sack instead of getting rid of the ball.
by Stellarpete22 on Oct 5, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Confident and Consistent
We need Cutler confident and protected or him at least getting out of the pocket when it collapses because that’s when he excels.
by Stellarpete22 on Oct 5, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah you are right
I guess it is because they had to give up a lot to get him.
In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
do you think Angelo
would have done something good with those draft choices? Like maybe get a couple of decent offensive linemen?
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 5, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
what are you some kinda new age phyco/analyst?
the only comparison is in your poor memory, Grossman played behind a better offensive line on a team that could actually run the ball. On the field he looked confused sometimes but only really looked scared when he had to talk to the media. Cutler didn’t look scared he looked like someone who’s bell got rung . You have to be able to run the ball for play-action to work. Call a QB run play that’s just nuts. Jay need to play a little faster hit a couple of his hot reads early and Martz could have/should have called more running plays. To say Cutler is scared, doesn’t know what to do, lacks confidence is just BS.
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 5, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Phyco?
I agree Grossman has a better line and you’re right, a better running game too—the play action like you said has to make sense and what I wrote did not. But, the QB run not necessarily as a designed run but when the pocket collapses, take off running and get the first down. Then, the confidence level is up again and keeps the defense honest—can’t keep standing in the pocket all day. QB’s thrive off of confidence in the NFL and when you make a big play you see more of them and vice versa—bad plays end up with more bad plays (phsycological). You act like this was Cutler’s first game of looking bad? Any game where his passer rating has been below 100, he hasn’t really looked: confident; throws off his back foot; stays and holds ball in the pocket too long—ALL THINGS that Grossman used to do. Are they really the same players? NO NOT AT ALL. Cutler is still smarter and better and Grossman did overthink but, comparing their bad days to each other isn’t crazy. Look at their passer rating ups and downs—those types of things I’m comparing, not the quality of player and whose better or worse because we all know Cutler IS better.
by Stellarpete22 on Oct 5, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
your not saying now what you were saying then but what your saying now
If Grossman and Cutler have anything in common its the bad luck of ending up in Chicago.
Cutler does not suffer from a lack of confidence if anything its just the opposite, all those INTs last year because I believed he could thread the needle and put the ball into tight coverage. (a number 1 reciever willing to fight for the ball might have helped also)
he’s throwing off his back foot cuz he doesn’t have time to get set up. He really doesn’t have the quick feet like say a Mike Vick.
Sunday the pocket was colasping so quickly he really didn’t have good places to run to. But then perhaps you wanted to recommend some roll outs?
He’s been berated for throwing up picks rather than protecting the ball and taking a sack. as far as throwing the ball away you can’t do that while your in the pocket “between the tackles”
Jay could have played better no doubt, but when you’ve got 5,6 and sometimes 7 blockers who can’t even slow down 4 rushers should we heap more abuse on top of the pounding he took from NY? Accountability right lets sit him on the bench next to Tommie and Zack and tell him “your holding the ball too long cost us 9 sacks, while your sitting on the bench this week think about doing a better job of making your hot reads and learn how to throw the ball away while your running for your bloody life”.
I wonder what Grossman’s career would have been like if he had got drafted by New England?
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 5, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel more like I do now then I did when I got here.
I’m so confused.
your not saying now what you were saying then but what your saying now
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
It's just a game right?
It’s not life, it’s not death, it’s show business.
How did I end up watching a show that makes me feel like I just got punched in the gut, and why do I keep tuning it in every chance I get?
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 5, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Except one one was concussed
while the other was just cussed at…
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
let me call my bookie
…where we’d lay odds that the Bears will be 7-1 at the halfway point.
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 5, 2010 8:39 AM CDT reply actions
from yesterday's peter king recap.
Peter King was making the case the Orton was better than Cutler based on a 20 game sample, and says that ‘right now’ Orton is better.
I just get really /facepalm-y when i read this sorta stuff, mostly because, if you just look at the numbers and play based off of national games, it’s like, no one actually watches football. They just write about it.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
It’s all about their o-line…
Cutler is the more talented player, but Orton is in a good situation
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 5, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Didn't Orton take 6 sacks that game?
I wouldn’t say the Denver line is really all that good, but compared to what we have, it’s amazing.
Mmhmm.
cough Ron Turner says hello.
Also, probably the most amusing part of it was this line…
Through the first four weeks of the 2010 season, Orton’s 1,419 passing yards leads the NFL; Cutler is 507 yards behind him.
And Virto, yeah, Denver’s line is mediocre… but they can run block quite a bit better than the Bears.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
Check this out from a poster on Chicagobreakingsports
Not sure where he got his stats from, but they’re compelling argument in Jay’s favor.
Rating in games with a 0-7 point margin of victory: Cutler – 109.7, Orton – 92.2
Rating in close games (+ or – 7 points in the 4th quarter): Cutler – 133.4, Orton – 66.5
Rating in the last 2 minutes of the half/game: Cutler – 152.6, Orton – 90.2
Rating when their team is leading (no pressure): Cutler – 72.9, Orton – 116.2
Rating when their team is losing (pressure situation): Cutler – 112.5, Orton – 87.1
Pass distance (not yards after catch, just distance in flight)
- Behind the line: Cutler 13 of 14, 92.9%; Orton 15 of 18, 83.3%
- 1-10 Yards: Cutler 31 of 43, 72.1%; Orton 43 of 64, 67.2%
- 11-20 Yards: Cutler 12 of 19, 63.2%; Orton 17 of 29, 58.6%
Red Zone Passing:
- Inside Opponent’s 20: Cutler 8 of 13, 61.5%; Orton 15 of 36, 41.7%
- Inside Opponent’s 10: Cutler 5 of 7, 71.4%;
Orton 5 of 14, 35.7%
Here’s the link.
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
Send this s*it to peter king in an email
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
i do it every week when he pulls something like this
and then e-mail his editors.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
Isn't Orton averaging about 50 throws per game??
thanks god for a 50 yard PI call with 2 points left or he would have led them to a robust 26 points again..
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
I fail to understand
what the coaches actually coach on during the week…it’s not a mystery that opposing defense attempt to rush the quarterback, and our offensive line’s primary job is to block said defensive rush, or maybe it is
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
Got manhandled.
All night. Beat in every way shape and form on the o-line.
The Giants did come out, defensively, and played with their backs to the wall and ate it.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
maybe we can just put a couple of these out there
they might at least confuse the defensive line for a few seconds wondering if they should run through it or jump over it.
by junkhorse on Oct 5, 2010 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Is that an early pic of Frank "OLE" Omiyale from college?
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 5, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I would have bet my house that you would have re-produced that picture with a number "68" on it.....
exactly
bit of a letdown..
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
green is deserved
One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 5, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Moon nailed the grades
From the Lovie on Tommie article:
“Good to get him back in the mix,” Smith said of Harris.
Which part of Tommie falling to the ground 150 times was good, Lovie?
From Jim “Crazy Legs” Miller sounding off:
Instead, much like the confusion on the field, the Bears go in at the half with doctors evaluating Jay and no one prepping the offense – Todd Collins or Caleb Hanie for the inevitable. Collins said in his post game presser, “I did not know I was playing until coming out of the tunnel for the second half.”
That is unacceptable and poor preparation by the Bears coaching staff!
Ya, that’s kinda embarrassing for the coaching staff.
From Moon’s questioning of Martz:
One other scenario may be to slide Omiyale, now clearly considered one of the Bears’ five best blockers, in at a guard spot where he overcame early struggles last season to perform well at left guard in the second half of the year.
I’m gonna have to say no. Bad idea IMHO.
Like coddling a baby
I’m sure it’s been instilled in Jay’s head ever since he was at Vandy. Don’t worry kid-o will get you better again!
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
Hey Taylor et al....
I like the idea of Tommie “the Domino” Harris! Can we get an order of Tommie mocked up in such a manner!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMY!...
Okay I took a day to digest Sunday night and here's my take...
1.)Burn the tape from Sunday and let’s move on.
2.)The O-line is terrible and Cutler is running for his life but he also has to make better decisions with the ball. On the bright side, at least he didn’t go on an interception binge like he may have last year. lol.
3.)We’re not going to win anything this year not running the ball so it would behoove Martz to start trying to run it. We got Taylor for a reason right?
4.) The defense is for real
5.) Perspective zone: The Bears are 3-1 and lead the NFC North with the next 2 games being winnable. That’s all that matters now.
Yeah but it worked!
On a more positive note...
The whipping/beating/embarrassment issued Sunday night should prove revealing to the usually oblivious coaching staff.
Lovie and Co. are still working for their professional lives this season. They have already shown a propensity for making changes. I would expect some more this week.
Jay’s drops will likely be dropped for at least the first half of future games until the drop offs have been established. Only then would I expect to see deep routes. Since we can’t seem to run either, the quick slants and 3 step drops would be the only logical solution since we ain’t gettin any help at the beef market.
There will likely be more rotation and juggling of personnel on the OL, this will befuddle any team thinking they can repeat the gameplan of the Giants.
We still have some really talented folks on our team. Our D has been better than solid, without them we lose 42-3. Our special teams, save for a few miscues has been quite good. We’ve found out some of our young guys (Props to Tim Jennings) got game.
All is not lost. Our schedule is relatively soft, we will be in the playoffs, for how long depends upon how much we can improve.
Can anybody get Logan’s agent on the phone?
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Oct 5, 2010 12:57 PM CDT reply actions
that would be like the befuddled befuddling someone.
I think I like it.
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 5, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
or would that be the Juggled befuddling someone?
Its working on me already!
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 5, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it worng I just dont feel like posting
due to that debacle sun night?? I won’t even listen to sports radio..
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
I usually watch the nfl channel every day
Not this week
by 62bearsthe best on Oct 5, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
not wrong at all.
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Buddy of mine
is like almost 6ft and probably bigger than danny woodhead, said he’d walk on for the Bears, can’t block anyone but he said he’d trip the hell out of some Dlinemen…think he’s worth a look
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
How is he at fetching juiceboxes??
"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"
- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-
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