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BREAKING NEWS: Bears release Mark Anderson; sign Charles Grant

Breaking: #Bears have released DE Mark Anderson, according to two league sources. 

Via Sean Jensen (twitter).

Anderson, known for his stellar rookie campaign, where he compiled 12 sacks as a role player. He also received recognition that year for the NFL's Defensive Player of the Year award, finishing second to DeMeco Ryans.

Star-divide

 

Following 2006, the Bears decided to move Anderson up the depth chart ahead of fan favorite Alex Brown. After realizing the move was as useful as Anderson's spin, Brown was promoted back to first team with Anderson coming in mainly in passing situations.

Alex Brown's contract wasn't picked back up this off-season, making him a Free Agent. This move was largely done in the belief that the combination of Anderson and Israel Idonije would be just as, if not more, effective.

Update 1: As an immediate replacement for Mark Anderson:

The Bears are working to sign Charles Grant, the 25th pick in the 2002 NFL Draft of the New Orleans Saints. Grant had 5 1/2 sacks last season for the Super Bowl champion Saints, but he was released in March. 

Sun Times  >>

Update 2: Adam Schefter is tweeting that Grant and the Bears have agreed to a one year deal 

Sound off WCG, what are your thoughts on all of this? After this, how do you think the Bears feel about the decision to let Alex Brown go?

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10 months after they should have.

Shocking.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 5, 2010 2:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Kid better get some reps now

One time while a young lad, someone made fun of the Ditka name. One time.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 6, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

And word is per Biggs that we are signing

Charles Grant..

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Oct 5, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

linky..

http://espn.go.com/chicago/

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Oct 5, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

mcclure agrees

vxmcclure23 Bears have officially signed veteran Charles Grant

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 5, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

why?

he doesn’t have anything left in the tank.

by Nih1lus on Oct 5, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

He had close to the same amount of sacks as Brown (6)

Actually, their numbers last season are almost identical in every way. I wonder why JA didn’t just pick up Ogun instead.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 5, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy Crap

I am surprised. Shocked, in fact. It wouldn’t have surprised me if they had benched him but to go from starter to released?! Damn! As Biggs tweeted, this is ultimate admission by the Bears that they should have kept AB. I don’t know what Grant can do but man, I am wholly surprised. I guess JA and Lovie are really feeling the heat now!

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Oct 5, 2010 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Really ? Whats AB done for the Saints ?

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing, I know

But he couldn’t be worse than Anderson.

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Oct 5, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

alex brown

was a proven DE in our system.

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Oct 5, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

+50

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 5, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

AB had gotten old ...

… and was overpaid for his production level . Izzy is playing as good , if not better , than AB . So proven or not he needed to take a pay cut or get cut and we all know which happened .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+8

Which is the same amount of tackles Ab has had this season. System or no system he sucks now.

Yeah but it worked!

by Dils on Oct 5, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

possibly

…but he was still performing better than Anderson and he could drop into coverage when needed. Izzy is known for playing the run better than the pass.

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Oct 5, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yet he still has more sacks than AB . And don't get it twisted ...

…. I really liked AB , but when your not living up to your pay through your play its time to go . Grant should be solid for us as long as he stays healthy . And lets hope Wootten gets a shot to make an impact too .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

sacks aren't everything

using that measurement along, Peppers would be considered unworthy so far this year. Don’t get me wrong I think something had to be done, but it just points to the weird and poor planning by JA and others.

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Oct 5, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

along aka alone

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Oct 5, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

AB ain't even gettin consistent pressure .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I’ve watched some Saints games and Alex Brown has been a non-factor. I don’t know if we were smart to dump him, but right now I’m leaning towards yes.

by tacologic on Oct 5, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bears - Smarts??

does not compute…

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Oct 5, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

7 tackles and no sacks

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 5, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

When do we cut the entire starting O-line?

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Oct 5, 2010 2:23 PM CDT reply actions  

The second we trade for Logan Mankins !

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously,

five totally different linemen couldn’t do any worse.

by Big Ike on Oct 5, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 5, 2010 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Rec'd

"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."

by GriggsBriggs on Oct 5, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah

but who is out there that can help now….Other than giving up draft picks for logan mankins….

It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….

- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line

by CloudyFuture on Oct 5, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wrecked

One more for the Green….

by David in Maine on Oct 5, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just hope Grant can take a little pressure off Peppers

Someone has to take advantage of the fact that Pep gets doubled every snap. Otherwise its gonna be a long year.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Oct 5, 2010 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

stupid to let alex brown go

..and then do this, but in truth Anderson sucked so it was time to pull the trigger and end the experiment.

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Oct 5, 2010 2:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I've never had beef with mark anderson.

But i never had turkey with him either.

You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.

by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 5, 2010 2:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I've had kangaroo...

but it made me jumpy.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Oct 5, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

all MA needed was turkey feathers tied to his ass

…not sad to see him vacate…

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Oct 5, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why not just in all out and sign Schobel?

You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.

by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 5, 2010 2:36 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Actually like that idea.

WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!

by Acreman20 on Oct 5, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't he leave a lot of money on the tabel?

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 5, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

From what I've read

if remember correctly, Schobel wasn’t too sure if wanted to play again. He’s a Texas native and lives there and might sign with the Texans as only option he said. He recently had a try out with the Texans, but hasn’t been signed.

by DutchBear on Oct 5, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

yoda would appreciate this move

.

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Oct 5, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

talk like Yoda day is coming up

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=120867087945889&v=app_2344061033

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Oct 5, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Appreciate this move, Yoda would.

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

Writer at windycitygridiron.com {-/-} http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Oct 5, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Appreciate this move, Yoda would, hmm?

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
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by Spongie on Oct 5, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bench Tommie Harris...

Release Mark Anderson.

Perhaps Tommie deserves the same verb? Any chance we can sucker a team to give up a non-traffic cone o-lineman in exchange for Harris?

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Oct 5, 2010 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Some Jets fans want him …lol

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 5, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't bench Tommie ..... TRADE HIM !!! He makes far ....

…. too much money to warm the bench . At this point a taco and a cheaper player that might play hard is worth it .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would you trade for him?

Why would anyone else?

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

Writer at windycitygridiron.com {-/-} http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Oct 5, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who knows , but at this point he needs to go . His play ...

… has , lets be nice here , slipped .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is always someone willing...

to take a chance on someone who used to be a Pro Bowler… I mean, look at the Bears.

by sirus19x on Oct 6, 2010 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

?

isn`t it the offensive line that needs to be fixed? typical angelo

by mactealc on Oct 5, 2010 2:45 PM CDT reply actions  

gotta free up room

for next crop of late round dlinemen

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is like admitting Anderson sucks

and Brown shouldn’t have been let go…deuces MA…it was good, for one season

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Whats with the " AB shouldn't have been let go " stuff ? AB has been nonexistent ...

… for the Saints thus far . Izzy has filled his role and makes far less money to do the same job . So really its was over pay AB for his lack of production or let Izzy do the same job for far less cash . And I see just below that Dane has gotten stats to back this up .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

We let go of Brown because we expected MA to dominate

and Brown went to a new system, there’s no telling he wouldnt have been his same consistent self on the Bears line, just like the Orton/Cutler debate. it’s all spilt milk now

but we knew, at least I did, that MA was a one year wonder, end product of a fierce defense, and Brown is just a solid player

5mil, a bit much? sure.

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

His primary job description hasn't changed though ....

…. get to the passer and to this point he hasn’t even sniffed the QB . And honestly I think AB was cut due to declining play and rising pay . Anderson was a one trick pony and in my opinion was a pass rusher only . I don’t think we thought he would dominate , but I think we did expect him to be solid & well he wasn’t .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

could be, I'm also just very mad

that we kept anderson so long, maybe Brown wasn’t the answer, but to me, it was foolish to keep MA for so long

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed . Anderson should have been ...

…. anything more than a third down rusher .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

*** nothing ***

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

understood

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know your my righthand man

but i disagree i think other than Ogun, AB was the one player on the line that could take advantage of Peppers presence. The saints have a good rusher in Will Smith but hes no Peppers.

Alex brown always made a play when we needed it, batted a pass down, got a clutch sack and i know you remember the GB field goal block in 2008 i think with peppers he would have had a resurgence.

with that being said you are still my P.I.C.

by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 5, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its cool homie , but heres my thinkin .....

…. if AB would have just taken a pay cut he could have been a Bear for life . Instead he pushed for a new contract and in my eyes thats what made him expendable . To be honest I’ll takes Izzy’s production and pay rate to AB’s . Like I said ealier AB’s pay far out weighed his play . It was a case of too much money for too little production .

And AB has done little for the Saints across from a darn good pass rusher in Will Smith . AB is a quality person , but at this point in his career hes no longer a quality player . That said you know we’re still homies or as you put it you are still my P.I.C. !

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 6, 2010 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Get a room, guys :-D

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - Tom Coughlin, Giants '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Oct 7, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

From PFF's Twitter:
Interestingly so far this season both Idonije and Mark Anderson are grading out much better than Alex Brown is in NO. (+2.5, +1.3, -2.1)

They’re doing a great job analyzing this move… check out the rest of their tweets about it as well.

by Dane Noble on Oct 5, 2010 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't get it.

Anderson was playing well from my viewpoint. How is Grant, who just got but from a UFL team an improvement? Or maybe seeing enough me Wotton justifies the move.

You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.

by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 5, 2010 2:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Strange to say the least

I wonder if he pissed in someone’s cheerios or something.

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 5, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

So then I guess Grant

Will just be a reserve/rotation guy rather than a starter/contributor. It certainly seems like Grant doesn’t have much left in the tank but as long as he fills in the roto it could work. Maybe Wooten will see the field.

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Oct 5, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe they start Izzy

and rotate grant/wootton…a bears mentorship program if you will

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would

actually like to see what Wooten can do myself….

It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….

- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line

by CloudyFuture on Oct 5, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry i just have to get this outta the way

*walks into different room, stuffs head into pillow

YAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

i dk what anyone thinks about this,

im not suggesting it but what would u think if the bears tried tommie at DE?

by Lweb23 on Oct 5, 2010 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

IMO he's too slow for our D

maybe in a 3-4

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

But maybe just perfect as a DE in shanahans 3-4 in DC

Last I checked the skins also have an overpaid, underperforming DT who is unhappy about playing DE in a 3-4 and wants out of town.

I know which of the two I’d prefer to have. :)

Schadenfreude ist die schönste Freude (denn sie kommt von Herzen)

by bobby h on Oct 5, 2010 6:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

With Tommy H's patented 2 step and fall down maneuver

He would never even make it to the guard as a DE

"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson

by ccm on Oct 6, 2010 10:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

We're short at the 3 tech tackle

that would be a terrible decision but one that I could see the Bears making. They are full of stupid moves.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Oct 5, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

why did it take this long to figure out mark anderson was a one year wonder.

They have been telling us every year that mark anderson was going to return to his rookie year form and it took them 3+ years to figure out he was a one year wonder. I like the addition of the veteran charles grant but they should of known this before the season started. most of us knew mark anderson was done 2 years ago.

by garyfencikrapping on Oct 5, 2010 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I wonder stuff like this all the time

and like, why no adjustments during the NY game…why abandon the run, and i’m thinking to myself, i know i’m not the only one out here thinking this, why arent the millionaire coaches?

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like it

MA was a finesse rusher whereas Grant has the meaner personality and grimy, tough playing style. That’s what we need, Mean streaks on both lines cause they are depending on the agility and speed every play. If speed from both sides isn’t working let’s push them tackles all the way back and i’m feeling Melton will see a huge increase in playing time.

Pof, Pof, Pasa! Watch out for the monsters!

by borikua79 on Oct 5, 2010 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Melton looks solid

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Melton looks like he could be the real deal .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Motor.

If Adams, Toeina and Melton Gel we could see a huge boost up front with the way Pep is going. Harris… well I hope he figures it out but he’s out in the offseason.

Pof, Pof, Pasa! Watch out for the monsters!

by borikua79 on Oct 5, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

We should have kept Brown.

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Oct 5, 2010 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Why's that ??

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

because we are getting Charles Grant

…who does not represent a significant improvement of any sort over Brown.
Also..Anderson never panned out as expected.

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Oct 5, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

And overpaid for the same play we're gettin from Izzy . Brown has ...

… done nothing for the Saints & for once we cut the right player at the right time .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

see above

Sacks are not everything

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Oct 5, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

See above .....

…… no consistent pressure either .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reading the Bears official page

and what Grant says about playing in the UFL and getting another chance in the NFL…I really believe he’s gonna have that chip on his shoulder and play hard…whether or not he ends up on the ground with Harris every play, we dont know yet

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Yeah I'm liking his attuide too !

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

not gonna lie though, he isn't the spitting image of fitness

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

His belly button could eat me

(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."

by ThorCo on Oct 5, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

As long as he plays well he can look like Fat Albert .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

that just happened

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd for Talladega nights reference

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Oct 5, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

wrecky...wrecky...

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMIE!...

by LostInSTL on Oct 5, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec for you
whether or not he ends up on the ground with Harris every play, we dont know yet

"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo

by propheteer on Oct 5, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cannot say I'll miss him...

echoing earlier comments…what took you so long? I still miss A Brown. What a waste of cash!

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMIE!...

by LostInSTL on Oct 5, 2010 3:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Lol lovie u moronnnnn

Cutler almost gets killed and he goes out and signs a defense of end..lol..Ummm helllooooooooooooo..Maybe he wants to try grant out on the ol hes fat enough..lol

by tazz34 on Oct 5, 2010 3:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Lovie doesn't sign the contracts...

The other idiot does.

Pof, Pof, Pasa! Watch out for the monsters!

by borikua79 on Oct 5, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Philosophical question...

Do two idiots combined know less about any one thing than a single idiot alone?

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMIE!...

by LostInSTL on Oct 5, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey dane

sorry i have not been here been very busy great year so far save for last week

okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider

by j-man on Oct 5, 2010 3:53 PM CDT reply actions  

What's up brother man?!

Glad to see you round these parts. It’s been too long.

Yeah, last week was rough, but there’s still plenty of time to fix some stuff. Hopefully.

Wanna go out on a limb and predict the Super Bowl match-up?

by Dane Noble on Oct 5, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

um

INDY-ATL was my preseason pick now maybe bait-or nyj against no

okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider

by j-man on Oct 5, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can dig it.

This might be the first year in a while that there is not really a totally dominant team in either conference.

by Dane Noble on Oct 5, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

boy

i love orton a lot looks like we both won in that deal

okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider

by j-man on Oct 5, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

I guess the O line is in good shape.

by Skags on Oct 5, 2010 4:05 PM CDT reply actions  

You're such a Negative Nancy...

it’s not like the o-line surrenders more than 10 sacks a game. ;>P

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMIE!...

by LostInSTL on Oct 5, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok!

When will the time for Tommie Harris come?

"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."

by GriggsBriggs on Oct 5, 2010 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Trade Tommie Harris

becoming synonymous with trade for Logan Mankins … it’s not happening. The front office is too invested in Harris to eat that much “I told you so” pie. Not only that, but I think Angelo is also worried that if he pulls the trigger on that deal – whatever it may be – Harris will be the beast he and Lovie always said he was and we’ll be left with another offensive lineman who sucks ass.

by junkhorse on Oct 5, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

That and trading doesn't work like it does in the MLB

No matter how much everyone wants it to.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Oct 5, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be fine with a swiftly executed release

If it was up to me, I wouldn’t give him any longer than the end of this season to turn it around. And that would be generous…

"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."

by GriggsBriggs on Oct 5, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guess

this might mean its win our else…..Wonder if the O line plays poorly again if they just start dumping them and bringing in more UFL guys….Cause my grandma can do a better job blocking ATM….

It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….

- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line

by CloudyFuture on Oct 5, 2010 4:52 PM CDT reply actions  

dammit

are else….sigh….

It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….

- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line

by CloudyFuture on Oct 5, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or else?

Personally, I would rather not see all the UFL’s Nighthawks on the Bears. That’d be, kinda, you know, bad.

by Steven Schweickert on Oct 5, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let me get thi straight.....

Their franchise QB is getting crucified on a weekly basis, the run game is non-existent and yet they cut a below average DE and SIGN an older, out of shape below-average DE? If this team is all about accountability these days then Lovie and especially Angelo should fire themselves because this is ridiculous. I’m quite enraged right now with just how dumb this organization is, especially the ones above Angelo. They see how mediocre the team he “built” is and yet they’re fine with seeing their long-term investment being the opposing team’s punching bag……. F################K YOOOOOUUUUUU!!!!!

Ok I feel much better now!!

by frenchbears113 on Oct 5, 2010 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

add this to the equation

the worst team in the league right now : Buffalo…is better on 3rd down than us, as we’re last in the league

"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher

by BearNecessities on Oct 5, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

What O line men is

out there that they can pick up that can make an “impact” right away with this “complicated” offense….

It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….

- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line

by CloudyFuture on Oct 5, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is correct

we could resign beekman (though tice/martz weren’t impressed w/ him in training camp, hence the cut), but besides that, we got limited options. as many speculate, we obviously could trade for mankins, but it all depends on a) if ownership is willing to give him a big contract (he’s certainly worth it, but we already spent a ton of money this offseason); and b) what the pats want. so, yes, we could improve the o-line, but the only real way to do is contingent on those two things.

by guy incognito on Oct 5, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anderson/Grant

Should have been done a long time ago. The guy hadn’t done anything since 06, time to move on. The part I will never understand is why an O-Lineman wasn’t signed to fill the opening. Typical Lovie/JA. This kind of stuff is why we haven’t made the playoffs in 4 years. These people can not evaluate talent. That’s what it’s all about.

by walterfan34 on Oct 5, 2010 5:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Alex Brown

I could have taken Alex Brown for another season…..

by 1908isjustayear on Oct 5, 2010 7:00 PM CDT reply actions  

And heres some more good news ....

…… Charles Grant may be facing a suspension ( LINK ) and Minny is close to acquiring Randy Moss ( LINK ) . So wow just wow .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Oct 5, 2010 7:17 PM CDT reply actions  

why is the alex brown stuff coming up here?

honestly, dumping brown was a smart move no matter what…he’s done. he’s been invisible this year. the guy is an average DE at best at this point. i’m sorry, he is not worth the money he’s getting paid. and i am a huge alex brown fan. if we kept him, it would have been a stupid move. he’s not good anymore, folks. worth veterans minimum money, maybe. not anything more than that. the izzy/anderson combo was worth taking a look at, because they couldn’t have been worse than brown and were both young and cheap. and i’d argue both of them have been better than brown this year. it was worth giving anderson one more chance, opposite a great DE in peppers to see if he could finally recapture his magic from 2006. it didn’t work. oh well. this means izzy (who has been pretty solid this year – the lack of sacks has a lot to do with no push from the middle…the ends have been getting pressure, but have nobody in middle keeping quarterbacks from moving forward in the pocket) gets more snaps, and we get to see wooten. and grant isn’t great, but he was better last year than anderson. and brown.

by guy incognito on Oct 5, 2010 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

What's the point?

Neither Anderson or Grant seem to be any solution so why keep making the rest of the players jumpy about what will happen next. How can a team come together if they have no idea what to expect from the Admin? I say unless a move reasonably betters the team you don’t mess with building consistency.

by Brian Jacobs on Oct 5, 2010 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Great so instead of looking for O-Line help...

…we pick up a DE that was released by a UFL team?!?! Way to go JA we need more proof that you are terrible at your job!

by Jhitt81 on Oct 5, 2010 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

There’s not much out there, according to several writers and columnists who cover the Bears.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
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by Spongie on Oct 5, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tell me my dear man,

how could we do worse?

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Oct 5, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

besides...it's not just about *finding* someone

it’s about saying to yourself “hmm…we have a distinct problem here. Perhaps we should do something about it before the next game occurs.”

by northernsails on Oct 6, 2010 1:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's about time!

Anderson has been deadweight for a while now.

I hope Tommie is next!

by MakeHalasProud on Oct 5, 2010 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

It just never stops

does it Angelo ya creep!! That’s really showing the football world that he’s really concerned after Sundays debacle, just where the hell is his head at? No, I aint going to say where I’m pretty sure it ’s at, he wouldnt be able to hear me anyway would he Ted. What a purely miserable response by a purely miserable man!!!

"most football players are temperamental, thats 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental" Doug Plank

by fin4bears on Oct 5, 2010 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

New DE after game 4, deja vu

Fine with no more MA but the timing is just bad and confusing. They’re not seeing any less performance from him this year than the last 2 so why now? Just screams “save my job” desperation.

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Is my mind a'goin on me or am I watchin you jibber jabber like some sorta jibberty box. Jibber Jabber on! Jibber Jabber on! -- Early Cuyler

by SaintCee on Oct 5, 2010 11:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Ok, I've had it.

I have absolutely Had it with Angelo. After a total shitfest like Sunday Night…he unloads a DLine??

WTF is wrong with you, you schmuck? It’s called an OLine…we dont have one. Worry about the Defense when teams start to actually score against them.

by northernsails on Oct 6, 2010 1:56 AM CDT reply actions  

The problem was...

our defense was doing fantastic. He has to fix what isn’t broken.

by MidwayMonster55 on Oct 6, 2010 10:45 PM CDT reply actions  

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