Rumors Swirling Around Randy Moss-Vikings Trade

Cant keep my diva receivers straight anymore…

I didn’t want to come off condescending, which seems really easy to do on the internets, lol!

Refreshing after gothicpurple’s rants.

You? The Vikings? Nooooooooo

Because our secondary is so great with coverage. Chill out.

So here’s some stats.

For a point of reference, the average yardage gained in the first three in 2009 was 189.

2009 Favre games 4-6
63 completions
84 attempts
75% completion
781 yards avg 260

2009 Favre games 7 – 16
239 completions
353 attempts
67.7% completion
2855 yards avg 286

Right now, Favre’s still working on his timing with his deeper receivers. It happened last year, it’s happening this year. If he’s still struggling after week six, then I’ll be worried. But not now.

you make an………..well, I’m sure you know the rest…..

I actually watched the first 4 games the vikings played last season (as well as the NO and ET game sfrom this season…I missed the Miami game). I was interested in seeing how Favre played, Minnesota is a division rival, and I always watch a division game if it doesn’t conflict with Chicago’s schedule. On top of that, my wife and some of my kids are Minnesota natives, and while my wife is a Bears fan, some of the kids are Vikings fans. Favre wasn’t perfectly crisp, no. He managered games and made very good decisions. He’s not making good decisions now (which is a trademark of his and last year was a sort of an enigma) and saying that he looked as bad as he does now is ridiculous. He has 6x more interceptions and 40% of the TDs. Nice how you ignored that, wasn’t it? Or the record difference? No, you payed attention to the 4 stats that have the least bearing on gaging a QB. You also seemed to gloss over the fact that the difference between 61% and 65% is the difference between being ranked 9th and being ranked 15th. Top 10 or middle of the pack? Which is better again?

More ridiculousness…….

• You are comparing the rankings of the 2009 teams’ 16 games to the 2010 teams’ 4 games. Well, if we’re going to do that, then lets redo Favre for the full 16 games of 2009 and compare, shall we?

• Your argument that a team with a good passing defense would then have more INTs doesn’t hold water,(though I would have guess you were right before I did the math). The league best defense against the pass is the Ravens. They lead in passing yardage allowed and passing TDs allowed. Yet, only the Bills have fewer INTs. The Ravens have 1. Conversely, the Patriots are arguably the worst passing defense in the league. They rank 28th in passing yardage allowed per game and 1st in passing tds allowed, yet are ranked 2nd in the league in INTs. Take your Vikings. Ranked 8th in passing ypg allowed and 10th in passing tds per game allowed, yet rank 26th in INTs. You theory sounds solid, and would seem to make sense, but unfortunately doesn’t hold up to the actual test. I’m sure you are glad it doesn’t, considering how it worked for your Vikings.

• Additionally, yardage rankings are misleading. For example, the Bears would be the 27th ranked passing D if you paid attention to the yardage. But we run a bend don’t break defense (commonly refered to here as the Cover Who), and that means we give up yards for turnover attempts. Now, the Bears rank 2nd in passing TDs allowed per game and 13th in INTs. They are also ranked 1st in defensive fumble recoveries with 7. of those 7, 6 were created by the pass rush or the passing defense (the only rushing fumble the Bears recovered was Bradshaw’s this week. So yardage doesn’t show an accurate picture at all.

Look, I’m not saying Favre was in late season form in the beginning of the season. But if you are making the argument that because he threw and completed about the same number of passes and that he was just a s bad last year than this year, then I’m gonna throw the bullshit card. I watched those games. And he wasn’t bad at all. In fact, he threw 5 TDs and just 1 INT with a 94.5 qbr and a 3-0 record, compared to 2 TDs and 6 INTs and a 60.4 qbr with a 1-2 record this year. I don’t care how you try and spin it, he is definitely worse this year than last over the first three games. And no amount of spin will change that. Can Favre adjust? If there was ever a 41 year old QB that could turn it around, It’s the ol’ purple cheese. But that won’t spin away the fact that he has been far worse through 3 this year than he was last.

Dominating stats? 2009 v 2010 TD/INT ration, in decimal? 5.0 > 0.333. no? How bout 2009 v 2010 TD%? 5.3 > 2.1. Still not convinced? last one. 2009 v 2010 INT%….which one’s better? 1.1 > 6.2. Starting to see my point?

As far as value, I’ll take my stats and viewing experience over your spin and viewing experience any day. I say spin because you seem like a pretty decent guy to me, and pretty bright. So I think you see exactly what happened and you are spinning it because yo love your team. Don’t worry, bro. We do plenty of it, too and if I was a Vikings fan, I might be sugar coating The Purple Cheese’s performance as well.. It helps for a little bit (Believe me I know. We’ve had Jerry Angelo for a long time, my man). For examples see some of the responses trying to hope our line isn’t what it looks like. You can find them in several threads. ;).