Thoughts From NFL Week 8

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 1, 2010 7:00 PM CDT in Notes

I'll have to admit, I didn't watch a ton of football on Sunday, a little here, a little there, some highlights on NFL Network and ESPNews. Halloween kept me plenty busy as did our opening round playoff game, which we won by the way, as the kids played their hearts out for four quarters.

But some of the story lines from NFL week eight are going to rile some fan bases up. Some in a good way and some in a bad way. Here's my first thought from the games...

1) Rex Grossman? Seriously? He gave the Redskins the best chance at a come back win?

2) Staying with that game, Ndamukong Suh is a beast. As a Bears fan, he scares me...

3) So has the Raiders offense finally started clicking, or is it just a matter of them playing some bad defenses?

4) Is the NFL punishing the English fans with a string of less than stellar match-ups? Wembley Stadium keeps selling out for these games, so you'd think Roger Goodell would throw them a bone to the tune of a Steelers, Patriots, or a Colts game.

5) I said it before, but it warrants another mention. The Chiefs running game is really, really good. I wouldn't want to see them come playoff time.

6) Did Brett Favre really need to be carted off the field for a cut on his face?

7) Coming off their bye week, the Jets managed to score zero points. Bad.

8) The Packers and Saints both had big wins against top AFC opponents.

9) A nice couple weeks by T.B. RB LeGarrette Blount. I wouldn't call the Buccaneers the best team in the NFC, but they are playing pretty good.

10) David Garrard accounted for 5 TDs against the Cowboys. At this point is that even considered a good game since Dallas is mailing in the season?

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So...

how long until the “Should the Bears get Randy Moss?” posts get going?

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by LostInSTL on Nov 1, 2010 7:14 PM CDT reply actions

Missed them already?

Although I have to admit think I have seen more “dont get him!” than “get him!” comments….

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by CloudyFuture on Nov 1, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Not convinced he'd help..

Knox and Hester get good separation downfield, and Hester’s sole problem is he needs to stop buttering up his gloves in the pregame warmups.

by Pretender85 on Nov 1, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions

Don't get Randy...

should be the only answer. Not because the Bears have better WRs, but because he’d finish off the team within 2 weeks. That and he wouldn’t be able to fit into t he Martzfence anyway. Moss is a freelance deep threat with great hands and deceptive speed and not a precise route runner and disciplined team player. He’d make sure Lovie would get fired sooner, but I see that happening with or without Moss.

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by LostInSTL on Nov 2, 2010 5:25 AM CDT up reply actions

haha poor rex

i am just glad he didn’t throw a pick, i guess. what a bonehead move by shanahan. i mean really, c’mon man!

i like sex cannon more than most, but that is quite a tough spot to put any backup qb in. not to mention the ramifications regardless of the outcome of the game. shanahan should lay off the wacky tobacky.

by reefermadness3 on Nov 1, 2010 7:16 PM CDT reply actions

Green Bay exposed Mark Sanchez for what he is.

They didn’t score, and Aaron Rodgers put up another suspect game as well. But they played the gameplan that I expect the Bears to play. Take away LT and force Sanchez to throw the ball into coverage. And the Packers didn’t get a lot of sacks, but they pressured Sanchez all day..

In short, The packers exposed Sanchez for who he is……..Kyle Orton 2.0

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Nov 1, 2010 8:13 PM CDT reply actions

Sanchez very overrated imo

by Dominique Blanton on Nov 1, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions

He's played, what, 19 professional games?

And has taken good strides in his second year and made plays and is in what should be a stable team as long as rex Ryan can keep control of everyone and should really only keep improving. I think he can do some good things in his career, a lot of it is luck and he fell into a good situation in new York.

by lopey986 on Nov 2, 2010 4:48 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Sanchez certainly

looked like he had taken a step when I watched him on Monday night vs the Vikes. He was making some nice veteran decisions.

Still, Josh Freeman will ultimately prove to be better, IMO.

by Fridge72 on Nov 2, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions

I am pissed

i just saw mark anderson sack Manning
wtf………

Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.

by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 1, 2010 8:21 PM CDT reply actions

exactly

WTF..I am convinced we can’t coach up anyone.

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by tfrabotta on Nov 1, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Jarron Gilbet

is on the jets i believe dont be surprised to see him become a stud.

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by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 1, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions

I hadn't heard that,

damn though, I wouldn’t bet against Rex Ryan turning someone like that into a beast.

by Fridge72 on Nov 1, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Nope still a free agent .

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by MidWayMonster54 on Nov 1, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Practice Squad

I heard he was on their practice squad

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by Black-sheep on Nov 2, 2010 6:25 AM CDT up reply actions

activiated this week from jets practice squad

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

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by tfrabotta on Nov 2, 2010 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions

I bet he was pool jumping when they told him.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 2, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions

Why do you think he was activated??

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by tfrabotta on Nov 2, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Dude, Your Avatar

looks like Frosty the Snowman- just sayin’.

by Gaak on Nov 2, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions

Ogun had a QB hit as well

The Bears coaching staff just sucks….plain and simple. I’m still pissed about them cutting Anderson.

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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions

im not pissed about anderson

as much as i am about brown

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by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 1, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions

Idk

I like Izzy a lot, and at this point in their careers I think he’s better than Brown. Either way, releasing Brown was stupid cause they got nothing in return. Why let it leak to the media that you’re looking to trade or cut him? That’s the difference between a good front office and a bad one.

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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions

I always wonder

how brown would have done next to peppers

Izzy has 4.5 sacks through 7 brown would have gotten atleast that but hey thats just me.

Im really getting a kick out of the ViQUEEN fans panicking its hilarious, should i feel guilty for enjoying this? lol

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by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 1, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions

Brown has never had more than 7 sacks in one season

and it’s not like it would be much different with Peppers there. IMO- he’d be one on one no matter what.

The Vikes are in a state of disarray, and after Moss’ release the team morale has to be on the verge of collapse.

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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Why...

why do people keep evaluating Brown’s effectiveness based on sacks alone? While he wasn’t great at anything, he was pretty flippin’ good at a lot of things.

If you wanna go on sacks alone, besides Izzy’s three sack game, has he been that great? I’m not bashing Idonije here, I like him as much as the next guy (assuming that guy isn’t DaHamsta).

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by David Taylor on Nov 2, 2010 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions

Cause

I don’t think he’s very good. So based on his mere presence we should call him a very good DE? His popularity and name recognition has caused fans and the media to over-evaluate his true measure of success. I love the guy, but he’s never been a difference maker.

At least Izzy has had 3 sacks in a game. Alex has one all year!

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by propheteer on Nov 2, 2010 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions

Confusion.

So based on his mere presence we should call him a very good DE?

1) Did I say he was a “very good DE”, and
2) mere presence, where are you pulling that from what I said?

I’m simply saying that you cannot evaluate a players effectiveness based on sacks alone. Brown (in Chicago), would only get you around 5-6 sacks per year, but he was good in run support, and above average at being able to drop back in coverage.

And I’m happy for Izzy, I honestly am. However, doncha’ think that Izzy is benefiting greatly from who he plays opposite of? Again, Browns one sack =/= Izzy’s 4.5, and sack’s aren’t everything.

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by David Taylor on Nov 2, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions

I suppose he benefits a little

but I think the interior linemen are the ones that should benefit the most, especially the DT right next to Pepp. The thing with Izzy is that he’s succeeded in every way, at every possible facet on the line and on special teams. Indeed sacks aren’t everything, but again, the defensive end position hasn’t been an issue with the defense this season. The fact remains that Izzy is younger, cheaper, and more effective than Brown. Brown is currently playing on a pretty good defensive line himself without much success at all statistically.

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by propheteer on Nov 2, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions

Izzy was touted as a run support

D-Lineman before the season, (There was a stat a couple of years back that said he was the best on the Bears). Izzy is not a liability in run support. He also seemed to have quite a few pressures. I would agree that sacks are overrated but Izzy>Brown.

by DaHamsta on Nov 2, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Calm down there sparky.

No one’s bashing your boy.

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by David Taylor on Nov 2, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions

Izzy plays next to the Best DE in the League

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by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 2, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions

Since when do both DEs play next to each other?

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by propheteer on Nov 2, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions

Alex Brown is a good football player.

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 2, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions

and he is our QB wait wait wrong player

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by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 2, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions

I think

I’m more upset about Gilbert. I agree that our coaching staff sucks, but I think Gilbert had more upside than Anderson. In terms of, his size to speed ratio was much closer to someone like Peppers. Whereas Anderson was one of Jerry and Lovie’s undersized but fast one hit wonders.

by Fridge72 on Nov 1, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions