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The Bears Den: November 1, 2010

...where we're not nearly as bad off as the Vikings.

Bears players will be helping out at a local benefit in Chicago this evening.

Dan Pompei says that the second half of the season looks promising.

Sam Farmer points out how much of the NFL is upside down right now.

Vikings WR Randy Moss is at his boiling point; Deion condones it .

Don't miss: Transcript of Moss' full interview.

Follow WCG on Twitter!

Star-divide

McNabb benched for Grossman; Grossman fumbles on first play for Lions TD.

Only two Bears in top-10 highest paid Chicago athletes.

Tomlinson joins Walter Payton in achieving milestone.

According to this report, Chris Williams is too soft to play inside at Guard.

John 'Moon' Mullin has four good Bears players, and three bad ones.

Mullin also says he's not backing off of his "10-6 or better" prediction.

Neil Hayes says the Bears need to go ahead and retire Ditka's number.

Hayes also wonders who else should have their numbers retired.

Featured article: Sean Jensen looks at Marinelli's tactics and has a Q/A with Lovie.

Mike Mulligan looks at the average age of different defenses.

Video of Brett Favre taking one on the chin; he looked very injured.

Bonus Link: Post-game Vikings presser featuring Childress having some choice words about Favre, the full Randy Moss rant about his love for the Patriots, and a woozy Brett Favre.  One video, lots of goodiness.

Bonus Link 2: "Player for player, I don't understand this decision."  Foreshadowing at its best... here's the video of Rex Grossman's first snap after replacing Donovan McNabb.

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I was freaking out at the bar yesterday.

I saw Rex doing calisthenics on the sidelines and kept yelling “Oh my god, they’re putting him in! Why? In what situation is this a good idea?”

And then he promptly massacred all sense of pocket awareness and fumbled it, and everything in the world readjusted itself to normalcy.

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by Kev H on Nov 1, 2010 7:50 AM CDT reply actions  

I laughed when I saw that highlight.

Still, good to see not all the Bears players improve when they leave town.

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.

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by Robert Rence on Nov 1, 2010 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently, Shanahan said that he thought Rex gave the Redskins

gave the Redskins the best chance to win.

How weird. If we’d have been told three years ago that there would be a QB controversy between McNabb and Rexy… who would’ve friggin thought that it would be in Washington DC under Mike Shanahan? Bizarro world.

by Dane Noble on Nov 1, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bizarro as in Dan Snyder?

You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.

by ifuwannacrownem on Nov 1, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a mystery to me as well but just for the sake of argument...

isn’t it odd that two of the more highly respected coaches around the league (Reid and Shannahan) benched McNabb for inferior talent? It makes me wonder if there is something to this that the public can’t or doesn’t want to see.

by BearFan611 on Nov 1, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

What? That McNabb's an ass? that's not hard to see.

Dnabb has always come across as selfish to me. he was the main guy that wanted Owens, but didn’t try to be the one to put T.O. in his place when he stepped out of line.

Then he publicly complains about Philly’s talent and coaching, or lack thereof, and the team drafting Kolb. Then what does he do on the field? he tanks(or gets hurt).

McNabb doesn’t show any effort in a lot of games. It’s as if he expects his teammates to make all the plays.

At the same time, Reid did draft Kolb to be the QB of the future, and Kyle Shannahan for some reason, values Grossman enough to bring him with him to D.C.

You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.

by ifuwannacrownem on Nov 1, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dude...

Rex Grossman

(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...

by T.Moore on Nov 1, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ha Ha

this freakin made me laugh!

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Nov 1, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

funny

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Nov 1, 2010 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rex likes to go deep

Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.

by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 1, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rex Was Tired

of having Cutler steal his thunder.

by Gaak on Nov 1, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

McNabb benched for Grossman

I would retire if that happened to me

(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...

by T.Moore on Nov 1, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmm

ive really had this on my mind.
Tim jennings and Zach Bowman starting corners
D.j. Nickel- 3 ints leads bears
Charles Tillman at Fs- 3 forced fumbles tied 4th in the league and the only db with more is roman harper
Daniel Manning at Ss 3rd on team with tackles

I hate the rain. Rain falls in this world, too. When your heart is in chaos, the sky becomes clouded. When you are sad, rain falls so terribly easily. Can you understand, the horror of being pelted by rain in this solitary world? If only to stop that rain, I shall lend you any strength. If you trust in me, I will let no rain fall in this world, trust me. You are not fighting alone.

by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Nov 1, 2010 7:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Tillman at FS?

He can’t cover anyone, and doesn’t have the speed to play FS.

Also, don’t forget Major Wright is expected to return this week. Then we’ll have all three of our strong safeties healthy (Manning, Harris, Wright).

by Dane Noble on Nov 1, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

he is quicker than chris harris

and has more experience than major wright

I hate the rain. Rain falls in this world, too. When your heart is in chaos, the sky becomes clouded. When you are sad, rain falls so terribly easily. Can you understand, the horror of being pelted by rain in this solitary world? If only to stop that rain, I shall lend you any strength. If you trust in me, I will let no rain fall in this world, trust me. You are not fighting alone.

by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Nov 1, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec for tyson punchout reference

one of the most satisfying games to beat ever.

by reefermadness3 on Nov 1, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

When I finally beat tyson in a TKO after like a month of getting my butt kicked I felt like Buster Douglas when he beat him for real.

by Chitownproduct on Nov 1, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tillman at FS

Ive been sayin it for years. He’s too slow to play CB, but faster than most FS’s Im sure. He has good height and his veteran experience should allow him adjust fairly easily as he already knows assignments. He’d good be a very good safety at this point in his career. I could see him doing what Aneas Williams did towards the end of his career. He wont be quite Ronnie Lott, but my point is, many CB’s have made the transition later in their carrers and had success.

by hEnIcE on Nov 1, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly and

going back to his natural position wouldnt hurt.
again im sure hs is quicker/faster than chris harris and he has far more experience than major wright… he makes plays at cb but i think he could make more as a safety especially since every one argues our safeties dont make plays

I hate the rain. Rain falls in this world, too. When your heart is in chaos, the sky becomes clouded. When you are sad, rain falls so terribly easily. Can you understand, the horror of being pelted by rain in this solitary world? If only to stop that rain, I shall lend you any strength. If you trust in me, I will let no rain fall in this world, trust me. You are not fighting alone.

by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Nov 3, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he doesn't have the speed to play FS

Then he shouldn’t be one of our starting corners. Those are your 2 fastest guys on the field.

by JimmyMack on Nov 1, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The one thing I feel that's important to point out in the Moss interview.

Is that it sounds like the coaches ignored the scouting report Randy gave them. Would I put it past Brad “I’m a stellar NFL mind” Childress to ignore a scouting report? No. No I would not.

At this point, two more losses and the Vikes are out of it. If that happens in the next two games, I wonder if we’ll lose Brad mid-season.

I am hoping for a rousing chorus of “Fire Childress” at the Arizona game though.

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.

Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

by Robert Rence on Nov 1, 2010 7:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Judd Z said that if a change were to be made,

Leslie Frazier would probably get the nod. Typically, you don’t see beat writers even speculate on that type of stuff before something happens… I’ve been saying how surprised I’d be if hilly got canned mid-stride, but at this point, maybe it wouldn’t.

by Dane Noble on Nov 1, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Judd's right.

And we’ll have a change shortly.

But I think it’ll take another loss for it to happen.

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.

Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

by Robert Rence on Nov 1, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully not

I’d like to steal Frazier for us next year..he can’t reeeally like the Vikings deep down can he??

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Nov 1, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

From

what I had heard on one NFL show (cant recall which one. Think it was PFW but not sure since it was one of the DTV sports shows) frazier will most likely get the job should childress gets the boot…..Last season according to the scores B&B a couple of the younger McCaskey’s pushed for cowher or heimerdinger…..Guess it comes down to money…..Like most things in life….Guess we will see….

That's it! See, at first I thought it was hate, too. Hate was all I knew, it built my world, it imprisoned me, taught me how to eat, how to drink, how to breathe. I thought I'd die with all my hate in my veins. But I realized it was loathing.

-Mike Martz describes his feelings on running the football

by CloudyFuture on Nov 1, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I voted.

And I’m wondering why this isn’t already a reality. Also I was the first to vote to retire it, that’s a bit concerning but I’m not going to tell people how to vote.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 1, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

but remember it’s not all Bears fans voting… there are a lot of haters out there…

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

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by Ashley Czuba on Nov 1, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I know there are haters,

but even they should agree on this, I mean it’s Ditka for Ditka’s sake.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 2, 2010 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I, gulp, actually voted no.

Not because I don’t think Ditka is great but because much of his greatness occurred when he played for other teams. Hall of Fame is/was a big hell yes! Retired jersey? Not so sure. Plus we are running out of numbers to retire.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Nov 2, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Answer your door

I want to punch you in the face. :)

 Just kidding… I accept your opinion, I don’t agree but I’ll accept it. The lack of numbers I don’t really buy but I’ll allow it this time.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 2, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

The bears need a ring of honor

but because the lease a national landmark an architectural nightmare the field they play on and the stadium they play in they can’t. IMHO that is what needs to be rectified or addressed.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Nov 2, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was surprised to read that Singletary’s is still available. I won’t let anyone wear it on my Bears franchise in Madden…..

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by Spongie on Nov 4, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Grossman is just all world.

Damn Rex, really if you never take the opportunities you are given you are one step from being out of the league.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 1, 2010 9:08 AM CDT reply actions  

I didn't know the Bears COULDN'T have a Ring of Honor

Because I think that would be the best solution to the problem of having so many retired numbers. Too bad the Bears will probably never get their own stadium, at least anytime soon. I do think Ditka deserves it, now, don’t wait until he passes away to honor one of the Franchise’s Mt. Rushmore faces.

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Nov 1, 2010 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe we can just retire the "stache"

It’s just about as good as the number!!!

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Nov 1, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't even get me started..

I want that for Ditka as well as the statue of Sweetness, I can’t believe the city is fighting us on this…maybe our new mayor will step in and do something.

by Chitownproduct on Nov 1, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have to admit...

… I lean more towards not having a statue of Sweetness in Soldier Field as well…

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

Editor/Writer for WindyCityGridiron.com

by Ashley Czuba on Nov 1, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I agree I think a statue might be in the way if they put it on the 50 yard line.

Now if it was out front I’m sure it wouldn’t bother game play that much.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 2, 2010 6:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha...

you know what I meant.. let me edit myself:

a statue of Sweetness in at Soldier Field…

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

Editor/Writer for WindyCityGridiron.com

by Ashley Czuba on Nov 3, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does

Soldier Field have like a Bears museum ? Think that could be another way to honor former Bear greats…..Even the cult favorites like Tom Waddle, Neal Anderson, etc and guys like Stan Thomas and Rick Mirer…..

That's it! See, at first I thought it was hate, too. Hate was all I knew, it built my world, it imprisoned me, taught me how to eat, how to drink, how to breathe. I thought I'd die with all my hate in my veins. But I realized it was loathing.

-Mike Martz describes his feelings on running the football

by CloudyFuture on Nov 1, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you needed to...

Establish something near Halas Hall. Not as good as being on the lakefront, but still, better than nothing.

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

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by Kev H on Nov 1, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting article by Pompei since the second half of our schedule is tougher than our first half

He says the offensive line has pretty much solidified Frank O as left tackle. My issue is with Chris Williams. Everyone says he is not strong enough to play guard and it does require a different skill set than playing tackle, so why not try him again at right tackle since Frank O is supposedly our LT of the future. I would like to see an in depth explanation on this from Meyer in chalk talk., or have someone interview Tice about this. Does one half of football really solidify this starting O-line unit of ours? I am not convinced.

by Chitownproduct on Nov 1, 2010 11:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Apparently Webb's looking better at RT than CW did last season

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by SaintCee on Nov 1, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

CDubb has short arms like a T-Rex....

It was inevitable.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 2, 2010 6:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's funny Robbie Gould's brother

Makes $400/game for the Rush, while his brother is easily making 1000 times that for the Bears.

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Nov 1, 2010 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Remember when the vikes fans

Swore after a 1-3 start they’d roar to 7-3? Haha
About that….

I really enjoyed pompeis article and I feel inspired to write a fanpost I just need to consult with jack daniels first

Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.

by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 1, 2010 12:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I sure do.

Over at the Norseman… That’s been good for a laugh nearly every week.

by oripunk3485 on Nov 1, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait till they lose to the Lions..

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Nov 1, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scary but the Lions aren't as bad as we all want them to be.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 1, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know

they are probably writing the same post on their side..

"We were freaking robbed!! Our defense totally dominated all day! What? we gave up nearly 500 yards on defense? Yeah but we stopped them on the 1 yrd line! Our D is awesome!!"

- Entire kool aid drinkin' Pride of Detroit site-

by tfrabotta on Nov 1, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Suh

is on his way to becoming the most dominant tackle in the league for the next 10 or more years

Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.

by Bear Lovin 21 on Nov 1, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

man that guy is a beast.

Haven’t seen someone play with more discontent since Romanowski lol.

by Chitownproduct on Nov 1, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Check out some of his college highlights

He is pound for pound probably the strongest lineman in the NFL

by Da Sassage on Nov 1, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

i know right

he is like a mini hulk on some plays.

by reefermadness3 on Nov 1, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

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